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File:Camp Creek State Park - Campbell Falls WV 2 LR.jpg, featured[edit]

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Campbell Waterfall at Camp Creek State Park
  • Uhm, there is something I must be missing. When a photographer is taking a photograph, we are assuming that he hes already in his mind and eyes how the picture will be. By composing in his viewfinder, he alredy has very clear in his eyes a preview of the printed photo. If a photographer is taking a picture and then reach a result by cropping and reviewing what he has shot, hes not a photographer, he is a graphic, maybe good for the web. Am i wrong? Or am i missing the final scope of photography? Paolobon140 (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • That may be true if you are a seasoned professional photographer. Here most of us are hobby/amateur photogaphers and we often discuss improvements in each other's photos. That way we learn from each other and can take better photos in the future. The Wikiproject is not only about gathering knowledge and images, it is also about learning. --cart-Talk 15:17, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Like this photo, Paolobon140 !? ;-) Besides, a lot of motifs simply can't be properly taken without doing some necessary work in post - like cropping. Example: architecture shots without TS lenses. You keep your ultra wide angle lense straight (=perpendicular) and cut of any unwanted foreground later. Besides, as a media archivist: Historically, many important/iconic/famous images were actually cropped to some extent. I kid you not. ;-) --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 16:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes dear Martin, exaclty like taht photo! That photo is part of a larger series (about 36 photos) which was a kind of travel documentary between Vietnam and Thailand. All the 36 pics were taken to be cropped and printed with the ratio you see in the file which has been adapted to 1000x444 pixels. All the 36 pics have been worked to obtain the same acid colour, similar to some cross-processing. In that way the whole set of photos has the same printing size and the same colour look. When i was shooting in the streets or on trains, markets etc, i was already imagining that the final pic would have been cropped to that ratio and i kept some air on top or on the bottom part. It is quite diffcult to do, but we can get used:-) Unfortunately this particular pic is a bit blurred on the right woman's face and has been discared. But notice when the photograph is printed at 25 cm width you cannot notice the blurred area (thats why i think pictures should only judged when printed) But i can upload the full size originaal pic so you can judge. I understand your point of view: my way of photographing is "no crop" so that every pic can keep the same lens width: if you shoot with a 28mm the picture must look like if it is taken with a 28 mm, not a crop of the pic. That is the reason why i only use fixed lenses, so that the photographer will have to move to search for the good scene, and not the lens. Its a suggestion i always give: use fixed lenses so that you will have to move to search frr the best scene-) Paolobon140 (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paolobon140, I think I got you now re: "cropping despite a no-crop policy." Besides, please do keep in mind that there's a couple of very experienced photographers here on FPC. I'm sure you just hope to give valuable hints and input (which you actually do for many beginners) - but be careful not to sound overly condescending when doing so. Just a (truly friendly) advice. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dear Martin, yes i understand everyone has his own way of seeing photography and when i comment on a photo here, I never look at the name of the photographer and i never look at his portfolio on Commons, just to avoid being influenced from other pictures of the same photographer. I find it a good idea for myself, as it gives me the possibility to concentrate on the picture only. I have seen really good pictures here and i like many of them, and when i see a picture i like, i get enthusiastic! For the crop-no crop policy: I always try to compose a picture trying to preview how the pic will look without cropping it; its a god exercise (for me, of course) becasue it forces me in finding the best composition and keeping the characteristics of the lens intact. I usually shoot with 28 and 35mm lenses; i abandoned 20mm becasue they are too wide for my taste. I recognize the very experienced photographers here and i feel a bit shy to comment on their pictures cause i feel they dont need comments:-) By the way, for the crop-no crop matter, here is the original format of my picture taken on a train: https://ibb.co/eB88A6 I keep liking the non cropped one more and may i ask your point of view?.
  • Interesting pic, crop or no crop. There's a couple of technical issues that might give a potential nom here a hard time - but from a purely pictorial point of view a keenly spotted example of travel photography. --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paolobon140, you come on very strong in your opinion about photography. I'm sure no one will ever dare to suggest a crop of any of your photos after this explanation, but please keep in mind that there are as many ways of photographing as there are photographers. I hope you will allow us to continue our suggestions and discussions here between us on other nominations than yours. --cart-Talk 18:13, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • LOL Cart, if this is a kind way of saying you will not comment of any pic of mine anymore, well, I am a bit sad for that. I like to comment on pictures and i like to share the ones I find sharable here:-)Paolobon140 (talk) 19:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course not. You will have my two cents in spades. :) I will only think twice before suggesting a crop. I will see your photos as something I can support or not, but I'll not suggest any alterations since I understand that you are uncomfortable with such. Oh, and you might want to re-think the "look at his portfolio", there are women here too, strange as it may seem. ;) --cart-Talk 20:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Baso, glad you like it so much and I agree about the crop. PumpkinSky talk 18:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Cart! I've had some great mentors ;-) PumpkinSky talk 19:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Johann Jaritz (talk) 12:16, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural#United_States_of_America
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