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Thanks

Hi MPF. I wanted to sincerely thank you for sorting out my images from the Lake Windermere. With the merganser, I got too distracted by this, where they talk only about "Red-breasted merganser". And the gull tricked me with its winter plumage. Is there a place on Wikimedia where I could ask for assistance in species identification before I make an upload? I'm only starting with wildlife photography and I'd say my knowledge of photography is better than my knowledge of zoology. Thank you again for renaming the files and sorting them into the right categories. I'll try to do a better job next time. --Podzemnik (talk) 13:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Podzemnik: - thanks! Glad to help :-) There is an Identification Help page on German wikipedia, or alternatively, drop me a note here when you have uploaded your photos and I'll take a look. Good luck with getting pics! - MPF (talk) 18:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

File:Arenaria interpres map.svg

Hi MPF, Done. I changed the color. I hope it is better. If there is anything else, just tell me. --Cephas (talk) 22:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I can do it easy, it's just that I like to respect what I see on the source map as much as possible. That is how it is on the source map. --Cephas (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Ping --Flominator (talk) 09:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Earth France 2019 a commencé !

Bonjour ,

J'ai le plaisir de vous annoncer que la cinquième édition du concours Wiki Loves Earth en France est ouverte !

Le concours concernera 368 zones de toute la France, des parcs nationaux jusqu’aux réserves naturelles régionales englobant ainsi des paysages et biotopes variés.

Pendant le mois de mai, n'hésitez pas à mettre en ligne des photos de ces zones que vous auriez sur vos disques durs ou à vous rendre dans une zone concernée près de chez vous (à l'aide de la carte). Le règlement est disponible sur la page du concours.

Les plus belles photos seront sélectionnées par un jury national composé de commonistes, d'acteurs de l'environnement et de photographes professionnels. Un jury international constituera ensuite une sélection des meilleures photographies mondiales. Vous pourrez retrouver toutes les informations détaillées sur le site du concours

P.S. : si vous ne pouvez pas participer au concours cette année, faites passer le message autour de vous pour que de nouveaux et nouvelles photographes rejoignent l'aventure !

Bonne journée, Sarah Krichen WMFr (talk) 08:58, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Merci pour votre aide (Thanks for your Help)--Daniel Villafruela (talk) 06:09, 14 May 2019 (UTC).

Вікі любить Землю 2019 в Україні триває до 31 травня!

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З 1 по 31 травня триває сьомий конкурс «Вікі любить Землю» (Wiki Loves Earth), метою якого є фотографування пам'яток природи. Протягом травня ви можете завантажувати власні фото природно-заповідного фонду України та змагатися за призи. Зі списками пам'яток природи України можна ознайомитися тут. Приєднуйтеся!

Цього року є деякі зміни в правилах, зокрема:

• фотографії пам'яток, які на момент початку конкурсу не мали жодної ілюстрації на Вікісховищі або у Вікіпедії, отримують коефіцієнт 10 в кількісній номінації. Якщо ви маєте фото ще не проілюстрованих пам'яток — це збільшить ваші шанси на перемогу;
• окрема спецномінація для аерофотозйомки (фото з дронів тощо).

Більше інформації про конкурс читайте на сайті конкурсу. Якщо у Вас є запитання, можете звертатися wlewikimedia.org.ua – Оргкомітет «Вікі любить Землю» (in English). 22:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

File:Karasu2a.JPG

This photo is taken in nature, and is not processed. The background comes from some yellow poster that occasionally stood behind the crow. Успіхів. Materialscientist (talk) 21:47, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Bird species

Hi MPF! Syrio told me you are a good bird expert. Could you please identify the species of the bird in this file? File:0X4A4043s.jpg. Thank you! --Yiyi (Dimmi!) 13:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Grazie @Yiyi and Syrio: ! It is Ardeola ralloides; I have renamed the file to File:Ardeola ralloides, Bacini di Torrile, Fascia golenale del Po.jpg - MPF (talk) 15:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!! --Yiyi (Dimmi!) 16:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Uh! There are other three photos, if you want to identify other birds :-) Here: [1] --Yiyi (Dimmi!) 16:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

@Yiyi: - done! The new names are showing now in the linked file list :-) MPF (talk) 22:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Fantastic! Thanks :-) --Yiyi (Dimmi!) 22:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Falco tinnunculus

Hi, thank you for categoryzing my picture. I write you because in the Italian description I wrote that probably the bird was a Falco tinnunculus, but I'm not able to identify it for sure, and I asked on Italian Wikipedia where someone told be it was probably that specie. I just wanted to be sure you did not just misunderstood my Italian description and you're sure about the identification. :-) --Phyrexian ɸ 07:13, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

@Phyrexian: Grazie! Yes, I am certain this is Falco tinnunculus - I identified it from the photo, it is safe to exclude other Falco species (including F. naumanni) :-) MPF (talk) 10:35, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :-) --Phyrexian ɸ 18:27, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

File moves

Hi there. I noticed you moved a few files to better filenames (thanks!), and wanted to request that you please leave a redirect when you make such moves. Names such as File:Black-Capped Chickadee (6814160625).jpg are automatically chosen by tools like Flickr2Commons in a standard way (in this case, the description title and Flickr photo ID), so by leaving a redirect the software will detect and prevent the upload of a duplicate should someone try to upload the same photo from Flickr using such tools. Mindmatrix 14:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Difficult problem - it doesn't matter so much perhaps in a case like this (where the idenification was correct, just the name badly typed and not very informative), but when there is a misidentification, it is very helpful to expunge the wrong identification from view, or the misidentification tends to go on getting picked up, with the redirect being added to wrong pages in various wikipedias. It was seeing this happen on several occasions that made me chose to detick redirects whenever possible. There shouldn't be a problem over duplicates, though; when I use the Flinfo tool for adding Flickr pics to Commons, if the file already exists on Commons it detects it and warns you, even when the filename is not the same as the original Flickr name. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 15:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Identified birds

Hi MPF, thanks for identifying the birds of sri lanka on my pictures. Greetings from Germany --Z ^thomas 19:37, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome! Let me know if there's more :-) MPF (talk) 19:57, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi MPF, can you identify this bird File:Vogel Andasibe-Mantadia National Park 2019-10-17.jpg? It's from the eastern part of Madagascar. Greetings --Z ^thomas 21:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Z thomas: - it is a white-eye Zosterops species; checking the Madagascar list, there is only one white-eye there, Malagasy White-eye Zosterops maderaspatanus, so there's your answer :-) MPF (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! That's the answer :-) I didn't know the list. But I suppose that I need your help next time again :-) Greetings from Dresden --Z ^thomas 06:22, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

[:File:Eastern Europe 1990 (4523835289).jpg]

{Autotranslate|1=File:Eastern Europe 1990 (4523835289).jpg|2=|3=|base=Idw} Joschi71 (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

The right name of the birds

Thank you very much for identifying the right name of the birds. I have no knowledge about birds and used this to find a name. Regards Wouter (talk) 08:11, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Little Bustard photo

--Alf.islander (talk) 20:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)== Little Bustard photo ==

I am an academic researcher working developing an educational document for a trade group, and we would love to use one of your Little Bustard photos. Unfortunately, the organization is not going to be willing to release the document under a share-alike license (although they will be making it available for free), so I'm wondering if it might be possible to make an arrangement to use the photo under another license. We have some funds available for photo licensing.

@Alf.islander: which photo do you refer to, please? You are welcome to use any or all of the photos at Category:Tetrax tetrax (and its subcategories), in accord with their Creative Commons licenses. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

The one I was hoping to use is this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Little_Bustard_(Tetrax_tetrax),_Castuera,_Extremadura,_Spain.jpg. My understanding was that to use something with a CC-SA license, I would normally have to be releasing my document under a SA-compatible license as well, which unfortunately I can't do. So I wanted to make sure that it's okay with you before I use it.

@Alf.islander: thanks! Unfortunately I'm not well versed enough in the details of licensing; you should be able to get a better answer by posting your query at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - MPF (talk) 15:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

"Museum specimens"

File:UIATF Pow Wow 2009 - Eagle Staff 01.jpg, File:UIATF Pow Wow 2009 - passing the Eagle Staff.jpg: how can objects in present-day ritual use by Native Americans be "museum specimens"? - Jmabel ! talk 16:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: pretty safe to say the items will be stored in museum conditions (to preserve them intact from damage or decay) when not in actual use. But if you think it is worth creating a separate subcategory like Category:Haliaeetus leucocephalus in Native American rituals for them, go ahead - MPF (talk) 16:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

I think it is. While I'm sure tribes store these carefully, given the shaky relationship between tribes and anthropologists the only circumstances in which they might be stored in a museum would be if the tribe is wealthy enough to have its own museum (e.g. the Tulalip in Washington state). Otherwise, not a chance. Also, although I used it myself, I'm not sure the word "ritual" is the best; I'll try to consult someone closer to that culture for their thoughts. - Jmabel ! talk 16:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Thanks! I guess my feeling is that any tribe's place (however small) for preserving items like this could be called their museum, but as you wish. Yep, good idea on consulting over the most suitable term. I'd guess File:Bald eagle feather bustle (23947361528).jpg might be best in the new category too? - MPF (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

If that one was confiscated as illegal, then it wasn't in legitimate use by a tribe.

In any case, I've contacted the Executive Director of United Indians of All Tribes, who were the host of the pow wow where I took this. Here's what I sent him:

I was hoping you might be able to help me with a question about appropriate wording to describe two photos, or tell me who could help me.

I took these two photos a decade ago and posted them on Wikimedia Commons, the media repository of Wikipedia:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UIATF_Pow_Wow_2009_-_Eagle_Staff_01.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UIATF_Pow_Wow_2009_-_passing_the_Eagle_Staff.jpg

As you may know, Commons is a highly collaborative project, and people can edit each other's textual content and categorization of images. I already have these in "Category:Eagle staffs", but someone recently placed these images also in "Category:Haliaeetus leucocephalus (museum specimens)" which is clearly wrong. I contacted him and he has agreed that we can create a new and more appropriate category name. By Commons' standards, we are stuck with the Latin-language species name "Haliaeetus leucocephalus". I was thinking of something like "Category:Haliaeetus leucocephalus in Native American ritual use" but I'm not sure whether that would be a welcome wording, especially whether the term "ritual" is appropriate or not. The issue is to have an appropriate category name for Eagle staffs that are in current use. Can you, or someone, suggest a wording?

JM

I'm hoping to get an appropriate response and will follow up once I have that. - Jmabel ! talk 17:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Thanks again! I did notice that the headdress was confiscated, but presumed that (since they are only lawfully made by Native Americans), it was stolen from a Native American group and confiscated for the purpose of returning it to their care - MPF (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

FWIW, Michael Tulee (executive director of Daybreak Star) felt he was himself out of his depth on this, and passed me on to someone he considered expert, who hasn't responded. I pinged again by email a couple of days ago. - Jmabel ! talk 23:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

I begin to presume we will never get a decent response. I'm inclined to go with "Native American ritual use" for now, with the potential of a different word eventually replacing "ritual". & probably at least a summary of the present discussion belongs on the talk page of that category. OK with you? - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I finally went with Category:Haliaeetus leucocephalus as Native American ceremonial objects. - Jmabel ! talk 15:54, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Thanks for the update! Sounds fine to me. Do you want to put File:Bald eagle feather bustle (23947361528).jpg in there too? I still suspect this is most likely a genuine Native American ceremonial item that was confiscated because it was in the wrong hands. - MPF (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Feel free. Of course, it should also stay in the "museum" category if it is indeed in a museum. I hesitated because of that statement about confiscation: no way to know if it was a legitimate ceremonial object in the wrong hands or something made by a "no-blood" wannabe. But I have no problem with it being added to this new category. - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for identifiying trees

Hello! Thank you for the job of identifying trees in some of my images (i.e. File:Cleopatra Terraces 2017 03.jpg). I tried to use the label "Unidentified xxx" two times during the last months on images where trees are an important part of the composition. Both times, you made an identification, and I just wanted to say, that I'm very fond of this kind of work. Thank you once again. Greetings --Dirtsc (talk) 16:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dirtsc: Thanks! Let me know if there's any more; glad to help :-) MPF (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

I'll do, if it is important. And especially, if the image was made "an ocean away" from my home area. ;-) --Dirtsc (talk) 17:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Knud Ib Christensen

Hello, MPF. You have new messages at Nadiatalent's talk page. You may remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I wanted to ask you how you knew that the person who took the photo that you mentioned to me has died. I haven't seen an obituary for him, even this many years later. Thanks again for those articles. Nadiatalent (talk) 01:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

@Nadiatalent: - I'd been doing a search online for some of his papers, and his obituary was at the top of the search list. A very sad discovery. - MPF (talk) 09:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I had heard of the manuscript, but had never seen the final publication. Nadiatalent (talk) 21:38, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Cordaitales

I have put this back into Pinopsida. That is where both en.WP and Wikispecies have the order placed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:27, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: I moved it up to Pinophyta as it still seems very uncertain when it diverged from other Gymnosperms; en:wp actually says (though without reference) that it may even be sister to [Pinophyta + Ginkgophyta + Cycadophyta] - if true, then it should even be moved up to a subcategory of Gymnosperms. Also, while not yet (mainly because it would involve a lot of rather tedious editing) I think sooner or later, we should be accepting Christenhusz' deeper splitting of extant Pinophyta into several orders (Pinales, Araucariales, Cupressales) which would leave Cordaitales very misplaced. But I won't press it, if you think it should stay in Pinopsida. - MPF (talk) 17:44, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

There is a fundamental divide between botanists who split the seed plants into multiple divisions, and those who collect them all into a single division. Until that issue is resolved, any classification of the gymnosperms is going to be problematic. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:33, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: - that's true; but conifer taxa are so ancient, many conifer genera pre-date many angiosperm orders; if one is to have any degree of consistency, division of the extant conifers into 3 orders is pretty tame. I'm not suggesting following Doweld, or Melikian & A.V.Bobrov :-) MPF (talk) 21:52, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

That's one of the arguments used, yes, but there are bryophyte groups even older. Then there are green algal fossils. Kenrick and Crane were one of the first groups of paleobotanists to propose a radical rethink along cladistic lines. However, no single consistent system has been proposed that includes both seed plants and seedless plant, includes both extant and extinct taxa, and considers existing systems for each major green plant lineage. In the absence of such a system, I tend to play conservative and wait. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Invitation for felicitation program of Wiki Loves Monuments 2019 in Nepal

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"Picea asperata"

Hi MPF. Thank you for changing the brightness of the photo "Picea asperata", which seems to be sharper. As the original photo represents more reality, despite the fact that it looks too dark, I think it may be more appropriate to use the original photo. In wishing your understanding, please accept my sincere thanks.

About a picture

Hi MPF,

Could you end the misery for this picture File:Docoglossa2.jpg? For several weeks I want it deleted, but no one moves a finger. Please delete it today. Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 09:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

closeups and nonnative are not mutually exclusive

live with it.Famartin (talk) 22:58, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

According to whom?

I see no rules saying you have to separate said categories of native versus non-native. In any case, since you are the one with the problem, YOU create a new category. Famartin (talk) 23:01, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Famartin: - it's a simple matter of science and ecology, and making sure that the {{Geogroup}} mapping tool distinguishes accurately between natural and non-natural/invasive. Think of it like a herbarium: native plants, and cultivated plants, are always kept apart in different sections. No herbarium would ever knowingly mix them; it's just standard practice. Go to your local herbarium and take a look! - MPF (talk) 23:26, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

This isn't a herbarium. Famartin (talk) 23:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

It's a photographic herbarium, and potentially a very useful resource as such. Many organisations (e.g. Encyclopedia of Life eol.org) use Commons images as such, and they want scientifically organised data. - MPF (talk) 23:50, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

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I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

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File move

It is not taken in Tamil Nadu as per new name.--AntanO 14:21, 30 November 2019 (UTC) Ashy Prinia (Prinia socialis), Tamil Nadu 2.jpg

@AntanO: where was it taken then, please? I was working on the basis that it was uploaded as part of the TamilWiki Media Contest, and had been added to Category:Birds of Tamil Nadu. Locations are very important as they help with subspecies identification and mapping; the more detailed the better, but even a little data helps. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 14:37, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

It was taken in Sri Lanka. I will add some more details. --AntanO 15:22, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

@AntanO: Excellent, thanks! When you've done, I'll rename it more accurately ;-) Does this also apply to the photo I renamed to File:Ashy Prinia (Prinia socialis), Tamil Nadu 1.jpg, please? MPF (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that too. I have updated. Also, added geo tag. --AntanO 02:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

@AntanO: Many thanks, much appreciated! - MPF (talk) 10:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Suppressing redirects

I noticed you moved a few files I uploaded (and apparently misidentified at the time -- my bird knowledge wasn't so great in 2016). e.g. File:Mallard in Central Park 3.jpg. But you suppressed redirects. Misidentification is not one of the criteria here and the files are more than 3 years old. This would break incoming links if they were used off-wiki (unlikely for these files, but there's a reason there are only a few cases when redirects should be suppressed). — Rhododendrites ^talk |  04:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: I'd say that's an excellent reason for not leaving redirects - if misidentified files are being used off-wiki and a redirect is in place, the misidentification continues to be promoted. One would clearly not want say, an online field guide, to illustrate an article on Black Duck with photos of Mallards; with no other way of tracing and removing such usage, removing the error at its source by blocking redirection is the best, and only, way of removing the error from its misapplication - MPF (talk) 10:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

The license/attribution needs to take priority over correct identification of the subject. If someone follows an attribution link now they will hit nothing. If a redirect were there attribution would be intact and they would be able to see the correct identification. Deleting the filename doesn't do anything to correct identification -- it just creates a broken link if it were used elsewhere. Regardless, if you would like to add it as a reason for suppressing redirect, you should propose it as one, but as of now it's not. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  15:23, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: I'm not sure that's the case? The link won't be wholly broken, anyone who notices the image being missing will come to the notice of file being renamed without a redirect, from which (a) they can still proceed to the new name and its license and attribution, and (b) far more obviously realise that the old identity was incorrect. If a redirect were left, the vast majority of readers would never bother to follow the link, so wouldn't realise there was a problem of identity. This effectively makes promotion of false information, which I'd think is far more damaging in undermining trust in Commons as a source. - MPF (talk) 17:19, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

You're assuming that people can easily make sense of a deleted page. That they see the relevant line and interpret "identity" to mean it was misidentified. This also presumes that nobody has uploaded a different image to that filename. I fail to see how that is somehow more clear than someone going to an image of a black duck and seeing that the actual filename/description says "mallard". ("Oh, I must've used the wrong image" or something). But [again] it's not one of the allowed reasons for suppressing a redirect. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  19:23, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and opened a section at the Village Pump here: Commons:Village_pump#Suppressing_redirects_for_filenames_with_incorrect_identification. I'm struck that this seems like a straightforward application of our guideline, so I'm hoping for additional voices that can help clarify one way or the other. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  22:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

take a look...

File:Sanhaçu-de-encontro-azul (Tangara cyanoptera).jpg ???

looks like Thraupis cyanoptera to me -- but what do I know...

Seb az86556 (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@Seb az86556: yes; looks like a copying error "Tanagra" for "Thraupis", rather than a misidentification. I've corrected it and removed the file from Tangara cyanoptera pages. - MPF (talk) 16:28, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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Paper birch

While yellow birch is often in great evidence in the Catskills' slope hardwood forest, paper birch and red spruce predominate higher up in the range's lower-elevation montane boreal forests, like where that picture was taken. Daniel Case (talk) 00:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: - thanks! I was going on the basis of the bark colour and structure, which doesn't look like typical B. papyrifera. - MPF (talk) 00:51, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah ... up there it's not always this pure white. Daniel Case (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

recategorizing my stuff

In case its not obvious yet, I actually watch my files, so you should actually use real caution and thought before blindly recategorizing things. Sometimes you are right, but you are often not, so pay some real attention. Famartin (talk) 18:03, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

@Famartin: Terrace Boulevard shows up clearly as a street in Google Maps; you state in the filename that it is 'on Terrace Boulevard'. So it's a street tree; the street doesn't have to appear in the photo. - MPF (talk) 18:09, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Actually, generally a street tree is defined as a tree located within the right-of-way of the street. Since you can't see a street and the tree is clearly between two houses, then its not a street tree. Calling something "on" such and such street means its the legal address, not actually within the right of way. In any case, since its MY photo, and I know its NOT on the street, I'm telling you that you are wrong. Can't you understand that? What is wrong with you, seriously? If you just want to clean out the category, fine, but there are other places to put it, like "Acer platanoides in October" or something. Its not a street tree so it shouldn't be placed there. On top of that, again, you like to remove files from legitimate categories. Just because its not the natural species type does not mean its not an Acer platanoides leaf. If you want to clean up categories, try making some new subcats instead of just removing what you don't like being in there. You know, try being a useful member of commons instead of just making it pretty for your own uses. Famartin (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2019 (UTC)