Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Logos of Mass Transit Railway (MTR) Hong Kong

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Files in Category:Logos of Mass Transit Railway (MTR) Hong Kong

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Violation of rule COM:TOO Hong Kong.

SCP-2000 10:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All the SVG logos look to me as simple text logos not protectable in any jurisdiction -- sarang♥사랑 10:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Sarang, Hong Kong law is based on the UK, where the Google logo is copyrightable. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Can we carve out MTR Shenzhen's logo (File:MTR Shenzhen logo.svg)? MTR Shenzhen (zh:港铁（深圳）) is clearly a PRC company, and HK law does not govern its logo. Meanwhile the Google logo (despite being copyrighted in HK/UK) is well and alive on Wikimedia (File:Google 2015 logo.svg). So I understand that as long as the logo is not copyrightable somewhere in the world (as not some logo only used in HK/UK) it's okay to upload to Wikimedia?--Howchou (talk) 01:28, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Howchou, no, the image needs to be public domain in the US and in the country of origin. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Mattbuck, but in the case of MTR Shenzhen, isn't the country of origin China (instead of, although not a country, HK)?--Howchou (talk) 08:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If MTR Shenzen's logo was created in China rather than Hong Kong then yes it should be split out from this. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:13, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment The logo looks like the Cyrillic letter zhe Ж. If the logo is copyrighted in Hong Kong, then the HK government might as well give copyright to Chinese characters that are more complicated than that. FunnyMath (talk) 04:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the logo is exactly the ancient seal script for the word "tree" in Chinese. See this. Thus the logo has virtually no originality. Based on this, I would vote  Keep. FunnyMath (talk) 04:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep Per FunnyMath, MTR logos are derivatived from already decade-old public domain texts, hence TOO doesn't really apply, but rather a possible case of {{PD-old-assumed}}. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:29, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Weak delete@Liuxinyu970226 and FunnyMath: I doubt the mere fact that the MTR logo and some other letter is similar makes the MTR logo under the threshold of originality. From what I found (and raised in another deletion request), Hong Kong court ruled that a work can be still copyrigtable even it derives from other existing material, as per the following decision:

"Original" refers to the original skill or labour that is employed in executing the work. ... The requirement is that the work must emanate from the author in the sense that it must not be copied from another work, although it may be classified as "original" even though use has been made of existing material.

— Ian Carlson, in: Fossil, Inc. v Trimset Ltd. and ors. [2003) 3 HKLRD 11)
Regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 02:25, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jcb: Is this true? File:MTR Corporation icon.svg was kept by you per Commons:Deletion requests/File:MTR Corporation icon.svg. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:36, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination while keeping File:MTR Shenzhen logo.svg per discussion. --rubin16 (talk) 11:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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