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File:Steve Jobs and Macintosh computer, January 1984, by Bernard Gotfryd - edited.jpg, featured[edit]

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Steve Jobs and Macintosh computer, January 1984
Anyone who wish to do so, is of course welcome to make their own version of this photo. However, per lots of discussions here, this version can't be overwritten, even by me, since it is a FP on en-Wiki with extracted images etc. used in many articles. I made it years ago to the best of my ability at the time and with the tools available back then. I didn't create it to be nominated anywhere, just wanted to see how the image looked after a bit of cleanup. No one is more surprised than me at the attention it has received since then. --Cart (talk) 17:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that as the author of the development you can make an alt version based on the tiff and overwrite this photo. Thanks for the explain Wilfredor (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I could if I liked to. But, I'm really not that interested in this photo. And anyone who takes up the task will also find out that as soon as they attempt to brighten the photo, all the halos will become more visible due to the condition of the original. The LoCs tif that I used as a starting point for this image, is actually a museum grade scan of the original photo (as stated on their website) since the photographer donated his entire collection of photographs to the public to be kept in the care of LoC. So there is no point, Charles, going off searching for a better "original". I doubt that the LoC would allow a Wikipedian to do their own scan of the photo (1 photograph : color transparency ; 35mm (slide format)). There is an unfortunate big gap in the quality of documentary and portrait photographs between the often very sharp big early plates and the event of digital photography. We are so used to sharp color photos now, that we tend to forget how bad they were just 20-40 years ago. Only back then, we thought they were marvelous. --Cart (talk) 21:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your nutritious feedback Wilfredor (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I uploaded a new restored version, please, let me know what do you think Wilfredor (talk) 13:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks very clean, sleek, modern (as in not an 80s photo), and very AI. I will refer to what I wrote on another nom: link. --Cart (talk) 14:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good. So what do you want to do now? Propose an alternative (but there is only 5 days left), or wait until this nom. is over, and propose a replacement? Yann (talk) 16:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I successfully reproduced the issue with the red edge on the hands. This chromatic aberration occurs when trying to lift shadows in the TIFF file. Since there's no color detail in the TIFF, it results in a red border on the hands and other areas. I believe that due to the strong contrast in photos from that era, the shadows shouldn't be lifted as much. Regarding my photo, I agree (citing the restoration style that Christopher Nolan employed for the 4K version of "2001: A Space Odyssey"), but the "restoration" I'm undertaking is more akin to what James Cameron did with "Terminator 2" in 4K – a modern vision. My restoration aims to show how the scene actually looked at that moment, not how a photo taken in the 80s appeared. I'm not saying mine is the correct or incorrect approach, just highlighting the differences. Wilfredor (talk) 22:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the version should be labeled 'recreation' and not 'restoration', since you are not restoring the photo, but rather trying to recreate the scene. --Cart (talk) 09:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I better followed this discussion in the Wikipedia nomination in English so as not to repeat it. Wilfredor (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very understandable. I think Yann may have been a bit hasty in starting the delist nom on en-wiki, before a consensus was reached here. It only split the discussion and complicated matters. --Cart (talk) 14:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quality requirement is not identical there, where more importance is given to educational value, so it is useful to have opinions of people there. FP process is independent, even if one may influence the other. What is decided here doesn't have a direct impact on what is decided there. I would say that Wilfredor's version is brighter, and has more cleaning of spots and scratches, so Apple may rather choose it for marketing purpose. But is it faithful to the other original? It is another question. Yann (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 9 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 21:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: People/Portrait#Men
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