User talk:Ghouston

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FYI. Bidgee (talk) 02:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please explain...[edit]

You merged Category:Files from William Murphy Flickr stream into Category:Photographs by William Murphy on the premise they were duplicate categories.

Category:Files from William Murphy Flickr stream was two years older than Category:Photographs by William Murphy, When two files or categories are genuine duplicates, don't we usually keep the older one?

Pairs of categories like this aren't always duplicates. If a photographer uploaded images to flickr, and to other sites, like panoramio, then shouldn't a category like Category:Photographs by William Murphy be the parent category to both Category:Files from William Murphy Flickr stream and Category:Files from William Murphy Panoramio stream. And, if that photographer is also a commons contributor, who has directly uploaded some images to the commons, then those directly uploaded images, wouldn't they also belong in Category:Photographs by William Murphy?

In general, I don't think one can assume that categories like these two ARE duplicates. Are you aware of a tool that can check to see if all the images in a category came from flickr? I know of no such tool.

I think we need a bot to sort this out. I would suggest that, if that bot determines all the images in the two categories are from flickr, then Category:Files from William Murphy Flickr stream should be kept. If only some of the images are from flickr, then the two categories are not genuine duplicates, and both should be kept, with Category:Photographs by William Murphy being the parent category, while also containing the non-flickr images.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 04:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This was from 2016, so I can't say anything about why I did it, since I don't remember it. A single category Photographs by William Murphy would be sufficient to group all the photos by this one photographer, if some of them were published at Flickr first, and some not, would anyone really care? --ghouston (talk) 08:24, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BotAdventures problem[edit]

Hi. Can you check this edit of your bot, where category broke categorization template. Same thing happened to some other uploads of same user, as i can see. --Smooth O (talk) 11:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Smooth O: Thanks, yes, there's a surprising bug that has only shown up now after the bot has been running for years. If a page has no existing categories, the bot will add the new category at the end. But it has been finding the position of the end of the page by taking the length of the lower-case version of the page. In this case, the Unicode for the Turkish characters gets shorter in lower-case, e.g., İÇİN changes to için. Actually, it may be possible for the problem to occur when the page already has some categories. It may be a bit tricky to fix, too. --ghouston (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. --ghouston (talk) 11:22, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]