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File:Gyps fulvus at zoo Salzburg-0001.jpg, featured[edit]

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Griffon vulture Gyps fulvus in zoo Salzburg. These birds live close to the zoo but get food at the zoo. So you can see them sometimes in the zoo.
I used a very fine sharpening for the feathers, and I blurred the background to avoid unnecessary noise in the dark background which would increase the file size without any informnation. But there is no blurring to avoid any structures in the background.. This from the lens (300 mm plus 2x extender, resulting a 600 mm lens on a fullframe sensor, so a very narrow depth of focus. You can see that in the bird itself, the "farest" parts of it start to blurr also. But I would be able to produce a version as you described. I will wait for further comments. (Hope you can understand my english) MatthiasKabel (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Aqwis (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info I've uploaded a version which muc less blurred in the background and has no blurring in the foreground. I think this picture needs a little blurring in the background otherwise you are able to see the structure of the camera sensor. MatthiasKabel (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Much better without blur. It looks more natural now. --Lošmi (talk) 02:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Nice bird, although the pose covers up a fair bit of the shape. Processing artifacts are still too obvious. The line between head and background is spotty on one side and smooth on the other (if you really want to do this differential processing, perhaps you need to blend it at the edges). The leaves below are too noisy (sharpened noise?). --99of9 (talk) 09:31, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per 99of9, but I´ll support if you manage a denoised foreground and work a little on the edges. Is it possible you sharpened all of the picture and then blurred the background? I would suggest sharpening only the bird with help of a mask and selectively denoising fore/background. Nikopol (talk) 12:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info Thanks for the tips. So I tried to follow them and made an new approach Created a version with only a small amount of noise reduction and a version with the old sharpening. (Each version from three different aperture levels from the raw file.) Blended these versions with a smaller blending on the left side an a wider on the feathers at neck an head. Blending was done with individual pencil strokes on a mask not with a fixed radius to prevent the contours of the feathers as far as possible. Smoothed the beak, reduced the colors a little bit. MatthiasKabel (talk) 22:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The leaves are greatly improved. The whole image now has normal-looking noise, so I think your noise-reduction is now too small :), but am willing to overlook this given the high-res file size. I've struck my oppose, and will change it to a support when you clone out the dust spot I've marked. 99of9 (talk) 23:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Info Removed the dust spots and added the exif-data. MatthiasKabel (talk) 18:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I had to correct one point of your corrections ;-) Yes, the photo was below of the bird, which is the natural point of view for an human watching a bird on a tree. There are some other pictures of these vultures from different point if view, perhaps also better for scientific purposes, but not such good colors as this picture. Gyps_fulvus_at_zoo_Salzburg-0002.jpg - Gyps_fulvus_at_zoo_Salzburg-0015.jpg MatthiasKabel (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately humans on the ground do not get a good view of birds that are perching high in trees. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 6 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 17:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals/Birds