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Automoderation I invite you to please be more assertive with your comment. Thanks --The Photographer (talk) 00:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
+1, moreover pictures doesn't need to be in use to be promoted on Commons. --PierreSelim (talk) 08:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


  • I see three possibilities here:
  1. To disregard the invalid vote, like the bot did: this is the only solution in strict accordance with the rules;
  2. To consider Poco a poco's vote as a normal oppose: I guess (but am not sure) this has been done already with the 'Weak support' votes;
  3. To ask Poco a poco to revise his vote, as we can only guess what his intention was: probably the wiser way out. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 11 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 19:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question -- Maybe George Chernilevsky could explain his quick decision? If an automatic outcome is to be extracted from the poll, that should be the one strictly complying with the rules. Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Alvesgaspar!
A mistake of FPCbot not give chance for promotion. All is correct by rules now, and it not reason for debate. 11-6 is clear result, sorry. "Weak" is only emotional comment for voting. Voting time is over, so any vote cannot be changed. I closed similar result many times.
With best regards, -- George Chernilevsky talk 05:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
George, a weak support is not a valid vote template. This is clearly specified in Commons:Featured picture candidates#Voting. Thus, it shall not be counted as an oppose but as an invalid vote. FPCbot did the count correctly. I have to disagree with this closure. --Slaunger (talk) 10:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So result is now 5:0 => not featured. templates {{s}}, templates {{o}} is not according by by rules and is invalid... nonsense. I don't understand this desire to get FP award with bypassing rules. Alvesgaspar, you made a lot of things for improvement of FPC rules. The law should be identical to all. And template {{weak oppose}} could be added to FPCbot script to prevent similar mistake.
With best regards, --George Chernilevsky talk 19:53, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
{{S}} and {{O}} are redirects to {{Support}} and {{Oppose}} and thus equivalent. That cannot be compared to {{Weak support}}, which renders differently (uses another image and default text). I do not think it is so much about overturning a vote for this specific nomination, it is more the principle. That Poco a poco should have been asked to clarify his vote prior to confirming closure. He has done this now, and deemed it as an oppose, so the end result is OK, now that we know that is what he meant, but this was not clear at the time of closure. --Slaunger (talk) 20:07, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • @George, if you read carefully everything I have written you will realize that it is not at all my wish to get a FP award by gaming the rules. Being here for so long time, you really should know better about my motivations! Anyway, your opinion is most welcome at the talk page, as I think the principle (not the case!) should be discussed and the rules clarified. Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1) Alvesgaspar, i didn't want insult for You, sorry for that.
2) I will try to find still arguments, please wait a little...
With best regards, -- George Chernilevsky talk 04:32, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, was found
here (2011)
and here (2010)
Copy of old messages about FPCbot:

Hi Daniel!
This nomination Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Faro_du_Portzic_a_Brest.JPG discussed with this  Oppose = {{o}} voting template. Please add it to bot. With best regards, --George Chernilevsky talk 20:10, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel!
This templates was used several times:

  •  Support - {{Υπέρ}}
  •  Oppose - {{o}}

Please add it to FPCbot processing.
With best regards, --George Chernilevsky talk 10:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi George, {{o}} should already be recognized by the bot, are you sure it's not working ? /Daniel78 (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I not sure, it is old problem. All OK now? -- George Chernilevsky talk 18:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added {{Υπέρ}} now. /Daniel78 (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel!
{{WSupport}} =  Weak support, new template. Please add it to FPCbot processing.
With best regards --George Chernilevsky talk 06:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have added it now. /Daniel78 (talk) 19:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel!
This new template was used several times now:

Thanks, added it now. /Daniel78 (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel!
This new template was used several times now, please add to bot processing:

  •  Weak support - {{Weak support}}

--George Chernilevsky talk 22:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have added it. I apologize for the time it took. /Daniel78 (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There were still other my messages about new voting templates for the FPCbot, however this far enough IMO.
As you can see, weak templates processed by FPCbot. So, no reason for change result.
With best regards -- George Chernilevsky talk 04:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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