User talk:Courcelles/Archive 4

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I am relatively new to Commons, although I have been on Wikipedia for a while. File:2006_Cayman-S.jpg appears to be a copyvio, as its source seems to be It seemed suspiciously professional for its rather simple description page, so I pasted the URL of the image into google image search and came up. I followed the link, and though I couldn't find that particular image quickly, I saw many other which are very similar. As I am not positive this is a copyvio I didn't want to tag it as such–what is the correct procedure for discussion of images like this on Commons? Thanks. —danhash (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

  • I think you'll need to open a Commons:Deletion requests. The process is similar to listing an AFD at enwp, and that page explains the procedure. Basically, just make that same argument, and the community will discuss it for a week. Courcelles (talk) 20:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks! —danhash (talk) 20:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleting of Mini 7 Racing Club photos

I've emailed the photographer and he says its ok for me to upload them to Wikipedia.
I then forwarded to the general email address ( this email.
Could you please undelete the photos and repost them to Mini 7 Racing Club Season.
Edd of Mercia (talk) 21:21, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Looking into this, so I can find it again, Ticket:2011101610011525 and Ticket:2011101410019272 are the relevant ones. Courcelles (talk) 23:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm not allowed to discuss the content of OTRS tickets in public; I've replied to you through the OTRS system, please see your e-mail. As soon as we get this cleaned up, I'll be happy to undelete the images. Courcelles (talk) 23:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Temporary deletion for file renaming

Hi Courcelles !

As a new filemover, I'd like to know if my requests for deletion are relevant when a redirection prevents renaming of a file.

Thanks ! Papatt (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Yeah, if a redirect is preventing an otherwise legitimate move, and the redirect points to the file you're trying to move there, asking any sysop to remove the redirect is entirely legitimate. If the redirect points to a third, unrelated file, you'd be better off choosing a new name to move the original file to, in most cases. (BSIcons being an exception where you want to call in someone who understands the whole complicated mess!) Courcelles (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

OK but shouldn't I use {{speedydelete}} instead of {{delete}} for such requests ? I just found this template and it looks easier to use, isn't it ? Papatt (talk) 22:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, such basic maintenance is better done through speedy that a week-long DR that no one will bother to comment in (because the final decision is so obvious). Courcelles (talk) 22:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for all ! Papatt (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


I started to complain about your deletion here, but then I looked again at the deleted image. The difference between the cello image and File:Kate Grenville 15July2011.jpg is so startling that I can't feel very strongly about this particular case.

In general, though, I really don't like deleting images at the request of celebrities, even if they provide a replacement. Allowing image subjects to edit our files seems very wrong. If we are to be a truly useful repository, we should have multiple images of celebrities, some of which the celebrity might not like. Even this horrible deleted photo of her could be legitimately useful to someone writing a biography -- she does play the cello.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 11:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm not normally a fan of deletion on request myself, but when everyone involved, including the original uploader, and the person who brought it here from enwp, agreed to let the first image go, I'm willing to honor the subject's request for how she appears to the world. One is a professional photograph, one is a not-great image of her as she happened to look one night at cello practice. If she was notable as a cellist, again, the image should have stayed, but given she is an author, the legitimate uses of the cello image, as bad as it was, are highly unlikely. Courcelles (talk) 23:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I think we're in agreement here. Thanks,      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 23:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

File moved


If the files that I renamed aren't used on others projects, do I must list them too on User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands#Image replace requests ? Thanks to have cleaned my mess ([1], [2])


Si le fichier renommé n'est pas utilisé pour le moment sur les autres projets, est-ce que je dois le lister sur la page User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands#Image replace requests quand même ? - Khayman (contact) 10:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

deleting my photos

hi courcelles, im mikerp1986 and you deleted my photoes from my article Haifa MUN society, why? those pictures are mine and so is the logo, and im a member of the society where i was granted the permission to post them, could you please help me out to do what is necessary to undelete the pics and put them back please?

Hello, the template you were left on your talk page, as well as COM:OTRS and Commons:Permission will explain the process that is necessary. Once OTRS clears the permission, the images can be restored. Courcelles (talk) 01:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Timo Julkunen

Hi Courcelles,

You deleted my photos twice from my article Timo Julkunen, why? those pictures belong to his employer (theater) and he has right to use them. Could you please put them back or i will do so. Thank you!


  • If you'll log in to the account that uploaded them (so I can find the images in your deleted contributions), give me the filenames, or even the project they were removed from, I can tell you why they were deleted. Courcelles (talk) 21:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


Hallo Courcelles, why did you delete File:Konftel_Logotype.png? Even if the uploader account is fake (and not officially from the company) .. The logo is still pd-ineligible/{{PD-textlogo}}. Do you have any other info? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, fair point, restored and re-tagged. I usually get those, but the canoe-shaped things in the left threw me off in the bad old ones tool view. I strongly suspect this is out of scope, however, as the company's article was speedy deleted on Swedish Wikipedia for being non-notable spam. If they're willing to speedy a Swedish company (being that they would have the easiest time finding Swedish sources), I'd be surprised if anyone else would keep one. Courcelles (talk) 08:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hehe, no problem, thanks. :-) I did say nothing about out of scope or even spam - that's true - this may be out of scope. But should get a DR then. At least no deletion because of no permission. ;) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Griffo man images; 20/10/2011

I refer to images I uploaded previously on Wikimedia but I notice they have been deleted. On 11th October we did as requested and emailed you the following information.....

I hereby affirm that I, Ray Vanderby am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of []

I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

[RAY VANDERBY] [RAY VANDERBY copyright-holder] [11th October 2011]

Please reinstate the images so we can use them on our Wikipedia articles.

thank you

Griffo man

  • Record keeping, still looking it to it, relevant ticket is Ticket:2011101110000126. Courcelles (talk)
    • Okay, after reading that ticket, the agent in charge of handling it has replied to your e-mail, and we need further information before we can approve the ticket and restore the images. Please check your e-mail, and look for an e-mail that was sent to you on 11 October. Courcelles (talk) 13:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

We did send an email which was what the 'instructions' told us to do but that was apparently not adequate so we were emailed a template to complete on 11 October by Aaron Adrignola.....We responded on that same day by email to with the information as above because that was what we were asked to do!

Griffo man

  • Can you tell me what e-mail address the second e-mail came from? It is possible the system failed to connect the two tickets, so I may need to connect them manually for Adrignola to process. Courcelles (talk) 13:20, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


is the address the second email came from Thanks

Griffo man

  • Okay, but what e-mail address did you use to reply to that one? All outgoing OTRS mail on permissions issues comes out of the address you gave. I'm thinking your last reply might have become a separate ticket by software bug... Courcelles (talk) 00:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Ray Vanderby replied to that email and a subsequent email dated 12 Oct. from as follows

Dear Aaron,

I Ray Vanderby am the principle founder and owner of the Majique Music record label which I founded in 2003 in Sydney. I give permission for Hetha Griffiths (Griffo man) to use the Majique Music published album covers and any information as she wishes. You can phone me on 0428529032 if you wish.

Regards Ray Vanderby

Original Message-----

From: Permissions - Wikimedia Commons [3] Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2011 3:07 AM To: rv Subject: Re: [Ticket#2011101110000126]

Dear Ray Vanderby,

It is not clear how you are the copyright holder for these album covers. They were published by Majique Music and so we would need the release from a representative associated with them.

Yours sincerely, Aaron Adrignola

-- Wikimedia Commons - --- Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by volunteers, and responses are not to be considered an official statement of the Wikimedia Foundation. For official correspondence, please contact the Wikimedia Foundation by certified mail at the address listed on

File tagging File:Big Spin logo.jpg

You deleted MY OWN PICTURE!

I was the one who took the picture, uploaded to, and then I uploaded it to Wiki Commons. I DO NOT NEED PERMISSION for my own WORK!!

I am going to upload it again since it is my OWN work! --Jpp858 (talk) 04:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

  • But we do need the permission. When images are elsewhere on the internet, we have people every day, by the dozens, claim an image they found randomly on the internet was taken by them, and is their own work. The requirement to clear permission in these cases through OTRS is just as much to protect the creator of content from false claims of ownership as it is to protect us and further reusers from hosting and using copyright violations. Courcelles (talk) 17:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
  • But it is my picture you can email Jp (that's me) on Amusement Park Authority or Austin (the owner of the website) and you will find out that I use the name "jpp858" on most of everything online, I just change my name since I am a staff member for the site! And when I put the image on Wikipedia Commons I did put it as my own work with the date that I took it! But oh well I guess your going to lose an image that could help Wikipedia in someway. I hope you are happy! Thanks for everything! --Jpp858 (talk) 01:16, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I've got some problems

Hi Courcelles !

It seems I'm in trouble with High Contrast, please look at my talkpage. I'd be glad if you could keep an eye on it for a short while.

Best, Papatt (talk) 22:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Akshata Sen

Hey, I just blocked another one on -- Kolly bool, has an image upload here too. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Yep, Artículo bueno.svg Confirmed on enwp. Blocked here, and threw what we well know by now is a sure copyvio in the trash. Courcelles (talk) 09:53, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I just logged back after a few days, haven't seen him at the usual haunts yet, so hopefully he's found something else to do. —SpacemanSpiff 05:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Renaming File:Royal_Canadian_Air_Force_flag.svg

Hello, just wanted to let you know that I've moved the above file to the requested name at File:Royal_Canadian_Air_Force_ensign.svg. I'm letting you know this because you previously declined a move request of that file. The move that I performed was acceptable by policy, specifically COM:RENAME #5 in regards to correcting a factual error in the name. While the distinction might not seem like much to someone who doesn't know much about flags, ensigns and jacks, it is a significant distinction. Regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 04:24, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Given that Category:Ensigns is a subscategory, of Category:Flags, and common English usage, I think you're wrong, an ensign is a specific kind of flag, and not in line with rule 5, but moving it back would be worse... Courcelles (talk) 16:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
    An ensign is a specific type of flag, in a similar way to Araneidae (orb web spiders) being a family within the Araneae order (to use an example that would warrant a move). I do realize that this might seem like a very minor distinction, but as I said above it is an important one to make. I can definitely see how the change would seem insignificant to most people (and perhaps I was wrong in moving it for that very reason), but at any rate I thought I'd let you know as a courtesy. Ajraddatz (talk) 18:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


Am I missing something here? Thanks,      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 23:13, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm out of town until Tuesday, and really have no time to investigate. If you (or any other admin) thinks I've made a mistake, please feel free just to fix it. (Consider that blanket permission for the next week). Courcelles (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
    • Okay, I had a few minutes, so, Done. SarahSiterch can send it to DR if she wants. Courcelles (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2011 (UTC)