User talk:Eatcha/Archive 8

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Subcategorization of historical FVs[edit]

Hello Eatcha,

I have an idea about the category FV/Historical. I think it would be useful if the videos are sorted by decade to find quickly what somebody is looking for. For example: The old markt video from 1908 and Obama's speech of 2016. Both are historical (because they are done), but 1908 is a completely epoch than Obama, who is still alive :). What do you think about this?

E.g.: 1891-1900

1901-1910

19XX-19XX ...
2010-2019


What do you think about it?
Regards, --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, PantheraLeo
Commons:Featured videos/Historical will be arranged similar to Commons:Featured pictures/Historical, we just don't have enough videos (and participants) right now. And are you interested in closing candidates? I noticed that you were closing the candidates manually, if you like to do this you may continue but there is a bot which can do it easily. Usually we just do this edit after bot has closed the candidate page with this edit and the rest is completed by the bot. Wishing you a beautiful holiday season and a new year of peace and happiness. Thanks -- Eatcha (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer, I thought that this process was not done automatically, but now I know :). Nice holidays and a happy new year, --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 12:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploading audio[edit]

How do l upload mp3 files and how do u get permission to upload them Refilweseeiso (talk) 23:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Refilweseeiso use https://tools.wmflabs.org/video2commons/ upload mp3 file and uncheck keep-video. -- Eatcha (talk) 04:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

YouTubeReviewBot[edit]

Hi, is there a way to ask the YouTubeReviewBot (politely) to review a specific video? // sikander { talk } 🦖 21:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sikander The bot fetches new videos at 00:00 UTC, it usually should take less than 24 hours to review new files. Files marked for deletion will not be reviewed (until the DR closes as KEPT). If you need urgent review because the file could get deleted from YouTube, Archive the source at Wayback-Machine. To mark a video for review add {{LicenseReview}} on the file page, which is automatically added by video2commons and will be processed by the bot. Thanks for your interest in YouTubeReviewBot. -- Eatcha (talk) 04:09, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FV Promotion[edit]
This file has been promoted to Featured media!

The file File:Properties of Hydrogen - Chemistry for All - FuseSchool.webm, which you nominated at Commons:Featured media candidates/File:Properties of Hydrogen - Chemistry for All - FuseSchool.webm, has been promoted. Thank you for your contribution. If you would like to nominate another file, please do so.

/FVCBot (talk) 21:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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FV Promotion[edit]
This file has been promoted to Featured media!

The file File:First 8K Video from Space - Ultra HD VP9.webm, which you nominated at Commons:Featured media candidates/File:First 8K Video from Space - Ultra HD VP9.webm, has been promoted. Thank you for your contribution. If you would like to nominate another file, please do so.

/FVCBot (talk) 13:01, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MOTD Notification[edit]
⭐ A file you uploaded is on the main page! ⭐

File:The Himalayan - Mt.Everest Base Camp trek HD Time Lapse.webm, that you uploaded, is on the main page today. Thank you for your contributions to this project.

//EatchaBot (talk) 00:03, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

Hi, Yep, I lost my login credentials to my THIRD account. I guess having too many accounts isn't a good idea. Is brute forcing still an option to recover my account? Thanks --Boothsift Four (talk) 19:49, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately NO, I can't verify that it is you who you claim to be. Brute force attacks on accounts without verifying identity can get me blocked by Wikimedia foundation. It is against their TOS. Also it's not easy to Brute force an account which has special characters in it's password. -- Eatcha (talk) 04:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Verification? Is there no way to check our IP addresses and see if they match? I do remember you asking me to participate in Featured Video Nominations and I also remember asking you to add the Portuguese support template, if you had any doubts--Boothsift Four (talk) 05:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Only a chekuser can do that, but I doubt that they will do it. Their hands are legally tied. -- Eatcha (talk) 05:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

{{YouTubeReview}}[edit]

Hi, as per this, is it possible to tweak the template to not include "was reviewed by the automatic software YouTubeReviewBot," when the initial license review was not done by the bot? Minoraxtalk (formerly 大诺史) 13:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minorax The template was prepared to be used solely by the Bot, with an option for humans to verify the review by appending the required value. There is no way to remove the the text without adding an additional parameter. To make it simple for humans to review using LR script a param , let's say |Automatic=True. And the file which was linked on the discussion page will never be processed by bot cuz it lacks the {{LicenseReview}} template. Why am I doing it ? To not bother zhuyifei1999, otherwise he would have been forced to change the source of video2commons to add these templates. I tried a conservative approach.

I can change the source of my bot to add |Automatic=True in the new reviews but, we've got a problem with the older edits by my bot. The easiest way to handle this situation would be to restrict the addition of the template {{LicenseReview}} to the bot with LR script modified to add the stuff required to be appended. How can we stop users from adding the template ? Use editfilter to restrict addition to the usergroup bot. -- Eatcha (talk) 15:20, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So basically YouTubeReview is only for videos since your bot only checks video files? Minoraxtalk (formerly 大诺史) 15:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Minorax Yes, YouTubeReview is only for videos uploaded from YouTube. I can add images but, that would risky cuz there is no way to check if an image was a part of a video that once was available under an url, but now it's gone/removed from YouTube. We'll be left with an archive on way back machine that only proves that once a video was available of x minutes, uploaded by y user and was z licensed. No way to check if the image was part of the deleted video. Infact reviewing videos would require me to pay a little amount for Amazon webservers, if a user who goes by name Alexis jazz never advised me to review the files via way back machine archives to bypass an IP block by Google for violation of YouTube's Terms of services by mass downloading videos. -- Eatcha (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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19:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


A miracle has happened! It's a new audio in featured audios![edit]

Commons:Featured sound candidates --Killarnee (T•R•P) 16:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Problem in VI[edit]

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//EatchaBot (talk) 00:03, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube reviews - perhaps it can be even more awesome?[edit]

Hi! Thank you for operating cool bots!

There are 60,184 files in Category:Media from YouTube and 13,082 files in Category:License reviewed by YouTubeReviewBot. Some of the 47,102 files not reviewed by the bot is reviewed by humans and 1,667 files are in Category:License review needed.

I wonder if it would be possible for you to have the bot check all the 60 k files (but skip those that are already reviewed) and add one of 4:

  1. Review succeded! (The one the bot usually add when it review a file)
  2. Review failed! The license on YouTube is not free.
  3. Review not possible because there was no link, link was broken or file is private.
  4. Review partly possible – license is CC but bot could not match file on Commons with file on YouTube (for example still image from a video).

I think it could work a bit like flickrreview. The bot tries to review and if it fail a human have to check and put the files in different sub categories.

I think it would be helpful to have the bot verify the license. If the uploader later change the license to not free then at least we have proof that the file was once CC. Of course we still need a human to see if the file match the file on YouTube.

What do you think? --MGA73 (talk) 10:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply to this tommorow, sorry for this late response. -- Eatcha (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I took intersection of all videos in Category:Media from YouTube (36686) and Category:License reviewed by YouTubeReviewBot, it appears most files are reviewed, some files from USGov are not reviewed but it doesn't matter, they are PD and the bot can not review them cuz files from channels of USGov are not CC licensed. I am not permitted to Review stills from videos (SEE BRFA). Public IPs of tool-forge are banned by Google, the Bot therefore can not access YouTube directly. All requests are relayed through Internet Archive's Way-back machine. Basically it parses the archived page to review files. -- Eatcha (talk) 11:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I'm happy we don't have 47 k unreviewed files waiting for a check :-D Do you think it would be possible to change the bot to review still images? If yes and you think its a good idea then you could make a new BRFA. I know it can probably not find the still image but at least it can check if the license is ok. --MGA73 (talk) 20:32, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A more easy solution is if possible that you make a list of all unreviewed files from YouTube with a link to the source on youtube and the license at the time you made the list?
I can go through the list of unfree files in no time and tag with no permission so we get rid of the unfree files. For the rest of the files we then have proof that the video was once free so if it is unfree at the time a reviewer have time to check the file then we can link to your list and say it was once free.
It can however not solve the problem if the file is deleted on youtube. Only way to avoid problems with a deleted video is if it is possible to copy all the used videos to Commons but as I understand it then that is not possible to automate. --MGA73 (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I can add the template at w:Template:Webarchive to the source parameter of file description template. And categorize them as: YouTube Images LR required (SOURCE DEAD but archived), YouTube Images LR required (Source Alive) the rest should be deleted. All files with no archive before 2018 should be archived. This task requires community approval as it would affect many files. Categorization is a hot topic on commons. -- Eatcha (talk) 15:29, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think that would be great. With more than 10 k files to review we need all the help we can get. Personally I think that adding categories to help reviewers should be welcomed. They can be hidden so they do not show up for ordinary users. Perhaps you can tag a few files to show how it would work so we can ask for approval? If community decide to say no perhaps you could just make a list of files to delete then I can tag them with no source or no permission or start DR's etc. --MGA73 (talk) 16:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting permission from authors to use photos[edit]

Hello,

I saw that you were the person who uploaded the Illenium photo over here. I've just created a new article for [Matt Lange] and I also wanted to acquire a photo from his manager to be used in the page. May I inquire about the process to do just that? I'm aware of emailing Lange's manager to get the photo, but I'm unsure about the technical Commons procedure that follows next. Thanks! ANode (talk) 07:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ANode After uploading the photo, ask Lange's manager to use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimedia_OTRS_release_generator to generate a release letter and send that to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. They can also send the photos as attachment in the email. -- Eatcha (talk) 08:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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