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[edit] Category:Fjellstedts bibel med kommentarer del I (1890)
Hejsan!
Skulle du kunna vara vänlig att radera pdf-erna i ovanstående kategori.
Jag ska försöka fixa jpg-varianter istället, det visade sig inte riktigt fungera med pdf...
Någon gång är man ju nybörjare oxå... -- Lavallen (talk) 12:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Inga problem. Pdferna är nu borta. Jpg filen ser mycket bättre ut =) /Lokal_Profil 12:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- En sak bara. Det är nog bättre om du skriver "Scanned by: User Lavallen" i "author" fältet. Som det står nu ser det ut som om du är bibelns upphovsman =) /Lokal_Profil 12:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Pinsamt, jag har märkt att jag gjort ett misstag och det är inte litet. Jag har missat att scanna in sidan 12-13. Det betyder att:
File:Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 022.jpg bör flyttas till File:Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 024.jpg
Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 023.jpg bör flyttas till Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 025.jpg
etc fram till:
File:Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 046.jpg bör flyttas till File:Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 048.jpg
Är detta möjligt? Eller ska jag ladda upp nya versioner? -- Lavallen (talk) 09:58, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Jag börjar så smått ladda upp nya versioner... -- Lavallen (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hej. Det ser ut som om du hunnit fixa alla sidorna redan. Vad jag vet så går det inte att byta namn annat än genom att ladda upp filen igen under det nya namnet. Så din lösning var nog den enda. /Lokal_Profil 22:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Jag hade pinsamt mycket problem med en av filerna. Hur jag än laddade upp en ny version så var det den gamla som syntes. Jag började leta efter fel i min egen dator och bytte mappar och var beredd att byta till den andra datorn när jag gjorde ett litet försök med att rensa (ctrl-F5) och helt plötsligt så var rätt fil där...
- Man lär sig... -- Lavallen (talk) 07:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Rätt vanligt problem. Ibland händer samma sak men på Commons sida. Då kan man pröva att trycka på redigera fliken, sedan ändra edit till purge (i url fältet) och trycka enter. /Lokal_Profil 21:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Försökte lösa detta genom att lägga in en purge-knapp i min monobook. Jag råkade dock glömma att jag inte var på en svensk wiki varför du gärna får radera Användare:Lavallen/monobook.js om ngn annan inte har gjort det redan. Jag har sökt efter något sätt att begära snabbradering, men jag har bara sett sådana som är avsedda för filer... -- Lavallen (talk) 06:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Har nu plockat bort den. Om du går till Inställningar/Preferences sedan Gadgets sedan "Maintenance tools" så har du en "Thumbnail purger" som du kan aktivera där. Till skillnad från tillvägagångssättet jag beskrev innan är det inte alltid detta fungerar dock. /Lokal_Profil 21:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Försökte lösa detta genom att lägga in en purge-knapp i min monobook. Jag råkade dock glömma att jag inte var på en svensk wiki varför du gärna får radera Användare:Lavallen/monobook.js om ngn annan inte har gjort det redan. Jag har sökt efter något sätt att begära snabbradering, men jag har bara sett sådana som är avsedda för filer... -- Lavallen (talk) 06:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Rätt vanligt problem. Ibland händer samma sak men på Commons sida. Då kan man pröva att trycka på redigera fliken, sedan ändra edit till purge (i url fältet) och trycka enter. /Lokal_Profil 21:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hej. Det ser ut som om du hunnit fixa alla sidorna redan. Vad jag vet så går det inte att byta namn annat än genom att ladda upp filen igen under det nya namnet. Så din lösning var nog den enda. /Lokal_Profil 22:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nu lagt in lite illustrationer från första bandet. Jag tror inte det är författaren till denna bok som gjort illustrationerna, varför jag inte vet exakt hur jag ska lägga upp dem. Jag har hittat identisk illustration i ett fall, jmf File:Biblia Fjellstedt I (1890) 176.jpg och File:SEC23B.gif, och liknande i ngt fall, jmf tex File:Fjellstedt Brännoffer-altaret.jpg med File:Mizbeah.jpg. -- Lavallen (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- Om ingen konstnär anges i registret, titelbladet eller i anslutning med bilden så klassas bilden nog som "av anonym konstnär" och då gäller publiseringsdatum + 70 år om jag ej missminner mig. Om du har många filer (både sidor och extraherade bilder) kan det kanske vara värt att konstruera något i stil med template:PD-Ugglan, Template:PD-Nordens Flora och Template:PD-SFJ. Dvs. en specifik mall för boken som innehåller den relevanta informationen.
- P.S. för att länka till sidor på svenska wikipedia från kommons (som t.ex. Peter Fjällstedt i filbeskrivningarna) behover du bara skriva [[:sv:Artikeltitel|Den text du vill visa]]. /Lokal_Profil 15:17, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- Antalet illustrationer (och det finns ingen kredit till ngn vad jag sett ännu) är ganska begränsat, men antalet boksidor är ganska omfattande. Det rör sig om cirka 2600 sidor. Dessa skrivs av och korrekturläses på wikisource.
- Skapa en mall, tja, det vore trevligt, men jag känner mig väldigt mycket nybörjade här på common, än så länge. Jag återkommer när jag får dagar med mer tid. Idag har jag fullt upp med att begripa hur allt nytt fungerar... -- Lavallen (talk) 17:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- Om User:Lokal Profil/Mall ser ok ut för dig så kan jag skapa en ordentlig mall av den och lägga in den (automatiserat) på de relevanta sidorna. /Lokal_Profil 14:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Kör på efter mitt lilla pill nu.
- Är det då tänkt att den även ska ersätta {{PD-old}} i de rena text-siddumparna? -- Lavallen (talk) 16:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Jo. Antingen det eller att ta bort {{PD-old}} och ersatta raden Permission=This image is in the [[public domain]]. med Permission={{PD-Fjellstedts Bibel}}. Har ett robotkonto som borde kunna ga igenom alla sidorna pa och fixa dem. /Lokal_Profil 13:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Är den boten även kapabel att snygga till de äldre varianterna av {{Information}} så att de i respektive kategori (det är tre stycken) ser homogent ut? Idag har jag http-länkar till svwp i många fall och i kategorin för band tre har jag råkat skriva band ett på flera ställen. Det enda som är någorlunda viktigt för mig, är att Defsorten bevaras för sidorna (mindre viktigt för illustrationerna), där sorteringen ska följa sidordningen. Byter du namn på filerna, så orsakar du lite strul för oss på sv:wikisource, men det går att fixa. (Era verktyg verkar inte kunna se att bilder här används i source's sidnamnrymd.)
- Du har mitt stöd att köra så det ryker! -- Lavallen (talk) 14:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Jag har nu satt AWB på att köra igenom kategorin för del 1. Det enda jag gör nu är fixar http länkar till svwp länkar samt licensmallarna. För band tre ska jag fixa "del I->del III" också. Om det är annat du vill ha fixat efteråt så är det bara att köra igenom det hela en gång till =). Angående wikisource så håller Check Usage koll på så väl wikisource som alla andra projekt, se t.ex. [1]. /Lokal_Profil 21:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Jo. Antingen det eller att ta bort {{PD-old}} och ersatta raden Permission=This image is in the [[public domain]]. med Permission={{PD-Fjellstedts Bibel}}. Har ett robotkonto som borde kunna ga igenom alla sidorna pa och fixa dem. /Lokal_Profil 13:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Om User:Lokal Profil/Mall ser ok ut för dig så kan jag skapa en ordentlig mall av den och lägga in den (automatiserat) på de relevanta sidorna. /Lokal_Profil 14:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ser finfint ut!
- Tja, tar du en illustration, så syns den med Check Usage, men tyvärr inte alltid en boksida som vi har lagt in i sidnamnrymden. Denna namnrymd används just för korrekturläsning. Sannolikt syns den inte för att det är en annan teknik som används för bild-infogningen på sådana sidor än de flesta andra. (Du kan tex inte klicka på en sådan bild och komma till common.)
- Nåväl, det är inte hela världen, jag har svårt att se att ngn skulle få för sig att börja modda en hel kategori av sådana sidor. Titelbladet läggs nästan alltid in i index-namnrymden, och den syns med Check Usage. -- Lavallen (talk) 12:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hum, låter intressant. Kan du ge mig ett exempel på en sådan sida så jag kan ta mig en titt?/Lokal_Profil 14:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- En av de sist uppladdade sidorna är Sida:Biblia Fjellstedt II (1890) 104.jpg. (OCR'en för denna sida var som för många där det är frakturstil på texten, närmast värdelös.)
- På Indexsidan finns alla sidor i sidnamnrymden som hör till samma bok/band samlade.
- I Kategori:Index alla böcker under korrekturläsning samlade.
- Vissa av dem har sidor som bygger på djvu-filer, och ser det lite annorlunda ut...
- Om du är inloggade i sidnamnrymden har du möjlighet att påverka statusraden för sidan, så att den kan vara grön: validerad, gul: korrekturläst, eller röd: ej korrekturläst.
- De olika textsidorna i sidnamnrymden sammanfogas (transkluderas kallas det av ngn anledning) i huvudnamnrymden som wikisource kallar för textnamnrymden. Du ser ett exempel från Fjellstedts bibel i Första Boken Mose kap 1-26 som är långt ifrån färdigkorrekturläst än. -- Lavallen (talk) 17:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, då ser jag varför Check Usage excluderar dessa sidor. De är i stort sett samma sak som "Bild" namnrymden på sv.wiki nu när alla bilder ligger på Commons. Eftersom en sådan sida redan finns (indirekt) för vilken bild som helst som ligger på Commons så går det inte att kolla. Är det ett vanligt förekommande problem att denna typen av filer döps om utan att folk kollar om de används på source? Gillar förresten "Sida" namnrymdsfunktionen, verkar som en fungerande version av hur korrekturläsningen på Runeberg fungerade. Och med tanke på sidor som t.ex. File:Biblia Fjellstedt II (1890) 007.jpg så är det inte konstigt att OCRen misslyckas =)/Lokal_Profil 18:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Aldrig hört talas om att det hänt att en bild flyttas. (Om det händer måste sidan flytta efter, annars funkar det inte.) Det är ju inte sidor som är superintressanta för användare utanför source.
- Tekniken är vad jag förstått, relativt ny och det är mycket nyligen som vi passerade 2000 boksidor på svenska source. Engelska, franska och tyska är de stora, och tyska tar inte längre in ngn text som inte bygger på denna teknik.
- Tömningen av svwp' fil-namnrymd var väl i full gång när jag kom dit och hade avslutats när jag började bli riktigt varm i kläderna, så att jag kunde fatta vad som skedde.
- Varför inte soruce har följt efter, vet jag inte, de regler som vi har är hårdare än commons, så inget borde finnas där som inte kan läggas på common. Det ser konstigt nog, ut som att det fortfarande går att ladda upp filer på svenska source.
- Men det är en helt annan fråga som kanske borde diskuteras ngn annanstans. -- Lavallen (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Det har förresten hänt att försättsblad med text från Google-book har tagits bort, men då av ngn av oss själva samt då i en djvu-fil. I sådana fall måste flyttar göras av texten med utan redirect, och ibland lite raderande, varför jag bett och fått sysop-status på sv-source. -- Lavallen (talk) 19:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, då ser jag varför Check Usage excluderar dessa sidor. De är i stort sett samma sak som "Bild" namnrymden på sv.wiki nu när alla bilder ligger på Commons. Eftersom en sådan sida redan finns (indirekt) för vilken bild som helst som ligger på Commons så går det inte att kolla. Är det ett vanligt förekommande problem att denna typen av filer döps om utan att folk kollar om de används på source? Gillar förresten "Sida" namnrymdsfunktionen, verkar som en fungerande version av hur korrekturläsningen på Runeberg fungerade. Och med tanke på sidor som t.ex. File:Biblia Fjellstedt II (1890) 007.jpg så är det inte konstigt att OCRen misslyckas =)/Lokal_Profil 18:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hum, låter intressant. Kan du ge mig ett exempel på en sådan sida så jag kan ta mig en titt?/Lokal_Profil 14:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Letat lite, men inte hittat ngn mer bra kategori för File:Fjellstedt Israels läger.jpg. Det är en förenklad karta över Israeliternas läger under den 40-åriga ökenvandringen. -- Lavallen (talk) 15:08, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Jag la till Category:Exodus vilket jag tror borde passa. /Lokal_Profil 14:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
[edit] File:Blank US Map, striped.svg opacity friendly?
Any possibility of editing File:Blank US Map, striped.svg so that one can use variable opacity in the fill styles?
Currently, there's a solid backdrop then stripes overlaid. It'd be better if there were two sets of stripes, offset (translated?) to be separate. For example, if one changes ".frog" style to "fill: #459700;opacity: 0.3", ColoradO's "Solid-frog" is striped instead of solid. --Goldfndr (talk) 07:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- What's stopping you from changing it? ¦ Reisio (talk) 20:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- My normal SVG editor is either notepad.exe or sed.exe -- if there was an svg-1 userbox, it'd fit me. I'm not (yet!) confident in an ability to learn an SVG editor well enough to isolate the path and duplicate it, or to trial-and-error an appropriate transformation matrix. --Goldfndr (talk) 01:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, looked like you knew how to do what you wanted. ¦ Reisio (talk) 03:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've now upped File:Blank US Map, striped2.svg to be used for variable opacity fill styles. The problem with using it for completely opaque styles is (as can be seen in the preview) that white areas appear between the stripes even though there is no codewise reason for this (the stripes share exactly the same nodes). To make things more confusing the gap between them looks different in different renderers and resolutions. Once a less opaque fill style is used though this becomes significantly less noticeable (and less important). Anyhow I hope that this will be of use =) /Lokal_Profil 14:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
[edit] iPhone map
Hello again. Apple has added China to the "Coming soon list" [2]. Can you update IPhone_3G_Availability.svg please? HereToHelp (talk) 21:38, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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- And now they're saying South Korea is coming out on 28 November. [3] HereToHelp (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Best wait for the official page to update. Once that happens the give me a shout and I'll update the maps. /15:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC) (logged out Lokal_Profil)
- And now they're saying South Korea is coming out on 28 November. [3] HereToHelp (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Mexico maps
- Moved to User talk:Addicted04#Mexico maps to keep the whole discussion in one place.
[edit] Potential featured picture?
Hi, dropping by to congratulate your fine work at File:Map of US Suffrage, 1920.svg. It's close to qualifying for the local en:wiki site standards for featured picture. The one important element it doesn't have is reference documentation. Could you supply the source or sources used for the information it represents? Full citation information (book, publisher, page number, date, etc.) and it would make a strong candidate for featured content promotion. Best regards, Durova (talk) 07:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Always nice when the images are appreciated. Added some info and passed along the message to User:Kaldari who probably knows better since (s)he requested the map =) /Lokal_Profil 15:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Bosnian (and other) coats of arms
Hi Lokal Profil. I originally transferred all of these from local (Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian) Wikipedias where most of them were subsequently deleted for having unclear copyright status. However, I believe that Template:PD-BiH-exempt should be applicable. Regards --20percent (talk) 23:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- The CoAs probably got nuked for not having a clear source and/or license .As far as PD-BiH-exempt it's not as straight forward to apply as one might think. I had a discussion with Lupo about it here and the conclusion is that a) one has to prove that it explicitly covers images such as flags and CoAs. Once this is done one has to prove that it covers sub-national coat of arms and flags. /Lokal_Profil 16:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- True enough, and near impossible to prove - state institutions in BiH (and neighbouring countries) generally don't care about copyright laws unless forced to do so. That includes copying from Wikimedia/Wikipedia for their own websites, by the way. Well, dunno - feel free to delete them. Best regards --20percent (talk) 17:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Energy consumption
Yugoslavia seems to be to high. The FAO site is down. Do you have a copy of this data to check it accuracy? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Obesity#World_map_of_Energy_consumption_and_Yugoslavia --Jmh649 (talk) 17:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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- Looks like the numbers may have been added with out dividing by the total number of countries? Here is an online copy of the 2001 data set. http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:xfww9B4bsTMJ:www.fao.org/unfao/govbodies/cfs/indicator_files/ind_6.xls+dietary+energy+consumption+site:fao.org&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca --Jmh649 (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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- Found a site that does say that consumption in 1979 was 3600 in yogoslavia. Will need to look into things more. http://earthtrends.wri.org/searchable_db/index.php?step=countries&ccID[]=0&allcountries=checkbox&theme=8&variable_ID=1856&action=select_years --Jmh649 (talk) 17:55, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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- Wondering if you could give me some instruction on how to create SVGs / PNGs of my own? Ie how you went about creating the world maps. I have some 2003 - 2005 data on energy consumption. http://www.fao.org/economic/ess/food-security-statistics/en/ Thanks --Jmh649 (talk) 20:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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- The way I did it was by constructing an advanced Excel worksheet which (once the data is correctly formated) grouped the countries by according to their final colours and outputted the relevant code which I then just had to copypaste into the top section of the svg template map. I.e. if we take File:World map of Energy consumption 1979-1981.svg as an example and you open it in a text editor (e.g. Wordpad in Windows, don't use Word or a similarly advanced program) the only sections you need to edit are the "metadata" section (basically just to change the title and date). And the section between /*Info added by Lokal_Profil */ and /* * Sea. Everything else should be left unchanged. I can send you the excel sheet if you want to play around with it or I can create the new maps for you if you preferr that. /Lokal_Profil 20:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
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Sounds great if you could send it would appreciate it.--Jmh649 (talk) 05:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again added to Wikipedia.Jmh649 (talk) 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Motor vehicle collisions
MCVs are the 6th leading cause of death in the developed world. We have a [[4]]. Wondering if you would be able to turn this into a map? Thanks--Jmh649 (talk) 08:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
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- Looking at the meta data of the svg. Is there an easy way to convert country names to the two letter abbreviation? Thanks --Jmh649 (talk) 09:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll update the map in the next couple of days. As for abreviations the short answer is no since they rely on naming conventions in different languages etc. The way the excel file is set up (will send that to you once I've cleaned it up a bit) it has one column with the names and then one with the abbreviations. /20:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- Looking at the meta data of the svg. Is there an easy way to convert country names to the two letter abbreviation? Thanks --Jmh649 (talk) 09:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Mer på G
Jag har en bibel-utgåva till på gång. Nu en upplaga av Gustav II Adolfs bibel från 1655. Den är fotograferad, inte skannad, det är tekniskt omöjligt utan att ha sönder någonting...
Jag tog mig friheten att skapa Template:PD-Gustav II Adolfs bibel (1655) för detta. Du kan väl titta över den, jag snodde koden rakt av från Fjellstedts bibel-mall ovan och modifierade det jag begrep. Jag var lite djärv och modifierade även sådant jag inte begrep, men det syns väl... -- Lavallen (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Petade lite på den. Enda egentliga skillnaden är att jag särskiljde på licens kategorin (Category:PD-Gustav...) och innehålls kategorin (Category:Gustav...). Detta är mest för att de hör till olika kategoriträd. Annars såg altl bra ut =) /Lokal_Profil 20:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] problem with malaysia on File:Ecozone Indomalaya.svg, etc.
Malaysia is moved up and to the left on a number of these maps. en:User:TShilo12
- Probably best to drop a note about this on File talk:BlankMap-World6.svg instead . /Lokal_Profil 20:14, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Re: San Marino
Sorry, I reverted my update to the coat of arms. Regards. --Keepscases (talk) 10:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Another map :-)
I looked at the excel and it looks rather complicated. I have a data set for the world prevalence of diabetes that would great as a map. http://www.who.int/diabetes/facts/world_figures/en/index.html Will need to figure out how to tern it into percentages. What is the easiest way to work with a the set of countries? In an excel file? Do you use google documents? They have excel fills that you can work on collaboratively.--Jmh649 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Something similar to this. But I need to find a data set. One can get it by clicking on the country but that would be time consuming. http://www.diabetesatlas.org/map A finally I guess there is copyright. I would think that the world map would be in the public domain. And color coding diabetes prevalence is not I hope copyrightable.--Jmh649 (talk) 22:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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- This data set http://www.who.int/diabetes/facts/world_figures/en/print.html show up fairly good. I do not know if the diabetesatlas is more complete. We would need a set of number to divide by thought. Any thoughts?--Jmh649 (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2000/annex-tables.pdf has population data fro 2000. Should be able to use that as our denominator. I take it that it's only the 2000 data that is of interest (not the 2030 prediction). /129.215.149.97 14:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I am more interested in current numbers rather than future predictions so yes just the 2000 data.Jmh649 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Voila. /Lokal_Profil 19:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Man you are good! Thanks again. Will post it to Wikipedia.Jmh649 (talk) 21:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- No worries. As to data sets, I tend to past them into Excel and then rearrange them so that the countries are in the same order as in the "map generator". That way I can just copy-paste the column with the relevant data straight into the map generator afterwards. I do use Google documents but spreadsheets is it's largest weakness, basically you have much more control in Excel. For organising data sets Google docs would work fine though./Lokal_Profil 01:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Man you are good! Thanks again. Will post it to Wikipedia.Jmh649 (talk) 21:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Voila. /Lokal_Profil 19:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I am more interested in current numbers rather than future predictions so yes just the 2000 data.Jmh649 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2000/annex-tables.pdf has population data fro 2000. Should be able to use that as our denominator. I take it that it's only the 2000 data that is of interest (not the 2030 prediction). /129.215.149.97 14:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- This data set http://www.who.int/diabetes/facts/world_figures/en/print.html show up fairly good. I do not know if the diabetesatlas is more complete. We would need a set of number to divide by thought. Any thoughts?--Jmh649 (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Suicide rates
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The WHO has a map of suicide rates in different countries with the most recent data set being collected in 2008 http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/index.html
The current map would be better if changed to include a greater degree of variability in colors and without Antarctica.
Any interest in making these improvements? ThanksJmh649 (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. Is a male-female ratio of 1-1 a valid assumption for countries in general? /129.215.149.99 14:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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- You will be able to make a separate map for women and men? This map only covers the total which is a lot less interesting than the separate figures. I guess we could take the population in 2000 * by the sex ratio than take the number of suicides and divide it by the previous number. Should be easy to do with excel right? Let me know if you need help / further data.Jmh649 (talk) 00:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Used the 2009 sex ratios since these were easiest to find, in theory one should use the ratios from the same year as the data from a particular country but that would be way to much work for probably no visual difference. I used the same colour scheme as I normally do but if you prefer some other then just drop a suggestion and I can easily update the maps. /Lokal_Profil 01:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- You will be able to make a separate map for women and men? This map only covers the total which is a lot less interesting than the separate figures. I guess we could take the population in 2000 * by the sex ratio than take the number of suicides and divide it by the previous number. Should be easy to do with excel right? Let me know if you need help / further data.Jmh649 (talk) 00:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Generation of maps
I have found a great source of data from the WHO in excel format. http://www.who.int/entity/healthinfo/statistics/bodgbddeathdalyestimates.xls Wondering how easy it would be to work with? A map of the death rate from gastroenteritis [7] or diarrhea would be excellent as this the leading cause of death in children under 5 years old world wide. I do not know how long it takes you to make a map are how many more you are interested in producing but IMO all these maps really add to the global perceptive of disease and really improve Wikipedia. Even the WHO does not provide this data in graphic form. Three tabs over they give the number of deaths per 100,000.Jmh649 (talk) 03:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Other maps that are needed for article of top importance include
- Meningitis
- Sexually transmitted disease excluding HIV
- Malaria
Dozens of others could be created from this data set looking at conditions from drowning and fires to neuropsychiatric disorder. It is a goldmine really. Would take some time to do them all?Jmh649 (talk) 03:47, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Hey LP Slowing figuring out how your excel file works. Unfortunately it is not exactly the same as the WHO excel which means I have done a bit of moving around for the TB one. I guess we could probably do them as one big bunch so for all the maps would only need to do one move. Any easier way than by hand?
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- I've done quite a lot of improvements to the Excel file since I sent it to you, would you like me to send the new one? I've got the WHO file hammered out so map generation can be started whenever the DALY/age question is resolved. I don't really know when DALY is more suitable then death (except for psyc of course) or when age standardised is important. From en:Age-standardized mortality rate I get the impression that it is always preferable over crude rates. /Lokal_Profil 03:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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- By the way if you need any help let me know. You definately have a better grasp of how to put these maps together but it would be nice to generate all 160 maps out of this data which I assume is a lot of work. The maps comparing large categories of conditions are also of interest. Like looking at infectious disease death in different areas of the world gives you a shocking image of the forgotten continent of Africa. Adds a significant global picture to medicine which unfortunately often centers around baldness and other disease of the west :-) Jmh649 (talk) 03:48, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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(unindent) Should go quite quickly to do the maps. The main time consumption now will simply be down to finding a suitable set of ranges (which is a lot faster then before at least). One thing I've been wondering about though is the official name of the WHO document. It seems to be an update to "World Health Report 2004" but an exact name would be good for the source section. /Lokal_Profil 16:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- First sample is up. The only name I could find for the WHO data was "Causes of death" (from [8]). Please take a look at the image page for the upped image to see if anything needs changing. /Lokal_Profil 18:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- In the notes section it refers to it as "MORTALITY AND BURDEN OF DISEASE ESTIMATES FOR WHO MEMBER STATES IN 2002"Jmh649 (talk) 20:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Questions about excel file
Okay entered my first set of data. Now setting the range. It only gives room for one value. Does this mean it starts at the minimum and goes too the value set in the box?Jmh649 (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Starts at the value in the box and goes to the next (higher) value. If you scroll right to the legends they show exactly what is in which range. /Lokal_Profil 03:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Ah yes I see. If you could send me an updated copy that would be great. I have uploaded it to google documents so that groups can edit it in their cloud application.Jmh649 (talk) 03:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed the blank cell issues. /Lokal_Profil 03:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Also how does one open the svg to edit it again ( ie put in the data from the excel )Jmh649 (talk) 03:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed the blank cell issues. /Lokal_Profil 03:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah yes I see. If you could send me an updated copy that would be great. I have uploaded it to google documents so that groups can edit it in their cloud application.Jmh649 (talk) 03:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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(undent) btw should we be coloring Greenland the same as Denmark? They are the same country.Jmh649 (talk) 04:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- It's not only Greenland, just that it's big enough to spot. By default British overseas territories, (British) Crown dependencies, Kingdom of the Netherlands, Overseas collectivities of France, USA insular areas and Kingdom of Denmark (you can see the details under the section about former countries) are not bunched up with their parent countries. This is because data gathered most often doesn't take these areas into account or gives them separately.
- For the WHO data it might be worth colouring them though, can turn that on easily enough if you want. /Lokal_Profil 12:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- We in Canada have the WP:Northwest Territories which is about the size of Greenland. People speak a different language. Live in very different conditions and have very different life expectancy / disease rate. Yet the number of people are so small the area is not separated out on WHO maps. I think the same logic can be applied to Greenland.Jmh649 (talk) 13:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Updated and expanded data
Hey LP Added most of the maps. Found some updated WHO data. From 2004 published in 2006. Should we continue on from here? http://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/estimates_regional/en/index.html Jmh649 (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Here is the individual country data. http://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/estimates_country/en/index.html Jmh649 (talk) 22:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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- 2009 data set just out. Looks like they are still adding some of it to the site. http://www.who.int/whosis/whostat/EN_WHS09_Tables.xls Jmh649 (talk) 22:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- YES, but NO but yes, but no... really ambivalent about this. Never data is good but the 2002 is halfway done... the obsessive compulsive part of me cannot leave it half done... There are currently 62-65 maps missing in the 2002 set and 61 done... will there be any need of the 2002 maps once the 2004 ones are done? At least the 2004 should go quicker since I can probably reuse the ranges from 2002 (deciding the range is what takes ~75% of the time for each map). I took a quick peak at the 2009 data and it looks as though it might only be relevant for a few diseases, although there is a lot of data there which isn't at all available in the 2004/2002 data sets.
- As an aside did you say you preferred the cancer maps as death rates rather then DALY rates or both or DALY only?
- As a second aside. As mentioned above I do have a Google docs account. The reason I haven't upped the "generator" there is that it tends to manhandle the files and change them. Even if you upload an excel file to Google docs then export it to xls and then open it in excel it doesn't look the same any more. Working on the WHO2002 data has made me do a lot of minor (and major) changes to the generator. Once the frequency of these changes goes down I'll send you an updated version. /Lokal_Profil 00:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- 2009 data set just out. Looks like they are still adding some of it to the site. http://www.who.int/whosis/whostat/EN_WHS09_Tables.xls Jmh649 (talk) 22:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Age adjusted death rates for the cancer mortality I think would be best to start with. Will want the 2004 data eventually. They warn however that comparison will not be that accurate. It depends on how much work it will be for you. If we do the 2004 set we can come back and finish the 2002?Jmh649 (talk) 01:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Gender and mental illness / cancer
Both rates of cancer and mental illness vary significantly with gender. We will be able to create maps of both sexes. This will give an extra nuance. :-) Jmh649 (talk) 02:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'll attack the "all persons" 2004 data set first and leave the gender specific one for later. Alternatively this is one you could work on if you want some coaching. /Lokal_Profil 00:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding the practice map above. You'll need to rearrange the WHO data so that the countries come in the same order as in the Excel file (e.g. Korea, republic of vs. Republic of Korea changes the order). This includes having empty rows for countries not included in the WHO data (e.g. Lichtenstein). Also don't forget that the data talks about "Serbia and Montenegro" which means Montenegro and Serbia are both blank and the data goes in the "former countries" section. /Lokal_Profil 15:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks can you email me your updated excel. Will give it another try.Jmh649 (talk) 16:45, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- There have been two major updates since the file I sent you. The last of these two updates involve macros and I have some more work to be done before it's ready for general use. I can send you the in-between version if you want though, still significantly improved on the last version you got. /Lokal_Profil 23:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks can you email me your updated excel. Will give it another try.Jmh649 (talk) 16:45, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding the practice map above. You'll need to rearrange the WHO data so that the countries come in the same order as in the Excel file (e.g. Korea, republic of vs. Republic of Korea changes the order). This includes having empty rows for countries not included in the WHO data (e.g. Lichtenstein). Also don't forget that the data talks about "Serbia and Montenegro" which means Montenegro and Serbia are both blank and the data goes in the "former countries" section. /Lokal_Profil 15:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] 2004 set
Hey LP have all the 2002 set up that have been created. Will add the 2004 set as you create them. Cheers. Jmh649 (talk) 21:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- I've uploaded the first four 2004 maps to User:Lokal Profil/WHO2004. I started with the ones that are defined differently from the 2002 data set (otherwise I'll forget them). I'll probably go on from Cardiovascular through to War and then do the Cancers (death rate) and Other Neoplasms (death rate?). Once these are done I'll do the ones for which there are already 2002 maps.
- BTW most of the maps are currently missing theme-specific categories. Since this relies on knowledge about disease categorisation/naming I was wondering if you could take a look at it. Might also be that you know of an Commons active Health/Medicine project which knows what goes what and if any categories should be created. /Lokal_Profil 00:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Hey LP have not done any work with categorization at commons. I have added all my images to the category medicine. Not sure what sort of structure is being used.Jmh649 (talk) 16:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like the 2004 data set was actually published in 2009 after a consultation in 2008 with member states.
- They also break it down by age group. This means that we can get pediatrics maps out of this data set :-)
- Any looks like we have some work ahead of us. Will figure out how to create these maps.Jmh649 (talk) 17:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hey LP have not done any work with categorization at commons. I have added all my images to the category medicine. Not sure what sort of structure is being used.Jmh649 (talk) 16:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Man you are fast!Jmh649 (talk) 22:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Made some more improvements which mean that generating maps now goes even quicker =). Stopping for today. All 2004 maps are up except for cancers (since I need to modify some things to work with death rates) and the ones for which a 2002 version exists. Should get these done tomorrow. /Lokal_Profil 23:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Man you are fast!Jmh649 (talk) 22:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Data pertaining to prevalence
I have found some prevalence data a number of conditions. [10] Jmh649 (talk) 17:36, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Also found a published book on google books that contains most of this data and is open to anyone.[1] Jmh649 (talk) 18:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- ↑ World Health Organization (2009). World Health Statistics 2009. World Health Organization.
[edit] Prevalence of MS
Wondering if you would be able to create a map regarding the prevalence of MS. Here is the data set and it will export to excel. http://www.atlasofms.org/export.aspx Thanks Jmh649 (talk) 07:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Vad sysslar hen med??
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Jag fattar inte vad User talk:Oirat sysslar med. Helt plötsligt vill hen ha OTRS av mig gällande mina egna bilder? Jag blir så trött :( Christer Johansson (talk) 07:35, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- Det verkar som om han var lite för entusiastisk. Men h*n verkar ha lugnat ner sig nu. Det ser ut som om han specifikt get sig efter bilder dar det star "source:own" och har ett namn riktigt i "author" och anvandarnamnet ar ett "riktigt" namn... men inte det samma som det som stod i author... det forklarar ju inte varfor din bild slank med daremot... /Lokal_Profil#
[edit] 1536 års översättningar
Hejsan!
Jag har bett om hjälp på Bybrunnen, men responsen verkar låta vänta på sig. Jag skulle behöva något liknande {{PD-Sweden-photo}} som hänvisar till att filerna är: photographic pictures och att bilderna därför är fria.
Det rör sig om tre band med faksimiler av en bibel som gavs ut som ett provisorium 1536 under utvecklingen av Gustav Vasas bibel. Det var alltså ett slags provtryck som gjordes av fyra bibelböcker och inte en komplett bibel. Jag hämtar materialet i böcker som gavs ut 1956-60. (Vissa sidor, med redaktionell text, i böckerna är inte fria.)
I mallen ovan finns dessutom en länk till svenska wikisource. Den är dock inaktuell eftersom vi inte kan ha gällande lagar ligggande. Vi har inte kunskap och tid till att uppdatera dem. Detta har tidigare diskuterats flitigt på flera platser. Hittar du ngn annan länk, vore det fint...
Ett första försök till uppladdning hittar du på File:Bibelöversättningarna av år 1536 band I 009.jpg. -- Lavallen (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- Jag har nu varit lite vågad och skapat {{PD-Bibelöversättningarna av år 1536}}. Du får gärna ta dig en titt om det blev rätt.. -- Lavallen (talk) 17:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
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