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Thank you for contributing to Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United States[edit]

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Dear Marcus Cyron,

Thank you for contributing to Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United States. The images you uploaded will help illustrate Wikipedia articles on historic sites in the United States. We are delighted to share the winning images and our top 10 finalists with you.

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Among orangutans - scan[edit]

Hi Marcus! What if I scanned I a cover of a book I bought? Can't I use this image? Best, Janrzeszow (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)Janrzeszow

Hi. Sadly you mostly can not use such images. Only if the image on the cover is made by (a) free picture(s). You only buy a copy of the book, not the rights on texts or images. If the image would be free, it would be possible. But then you need to say, which image it is, and why it is free. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough, thank You! Janrzeszow (talk) 15:32, 31 March 2014 (UTC)Janrzeszow

April fool?[edit]

Why this renaming: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Coryphaena_hippurus_Spain.jpg&diff=120473313&oldid=120473151 ? It seems to be an April fool, as it seems clear that the picture does not show a Coryphaena hippurus. Have a look at w:Rudderfish and to w:Coryphaena hippurus if you want to be convinced. Lmaltier (talk) 20:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't ask me. I have to trust the other user as well I trust you. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, in this case, ask the author's opinion, or ask anybody else interested in fish. The first identification may be wrong, I'm not a specialist, but the new one is for a fish with a quite different general appearance. If the renaming request was in good faith, then he might have found some reasons, some common characteristics (and very probably thinks to a female fish), but you certainly cannot consider that this renaming is an obvious correction (as mentioned in criterion 5). Also note that, if the identification is wrong, the picture must be removed from some French Wiktionary pages. It's certainly quite illogical to illustrate a page about a fish name with the picture of a quite different fish. Lmaltier (talk) 06:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
No. Can you imagine, how much question we would need to ask? No! Nearly all requests are correct, we have to trust here. If there is one mistake under 100 requests, this is a fixable problem. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
It's not a matter of trust – errors can simply be obvious or not. If they are not, you can try to find evidence for them either yourself or by asking the requester, otherwise the request has to be declined. May I ask you: If we have to trust requesters, why are there filemoving criteria at all?    FDMS  4    14:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I often enough had o realize, that the uploader made mistakes but don't want to see the mistake. Ask the uploader? Sorry, this brings mostly nothing. BTW - to have rules, huidelines and what ever don't means, you have to stop thinking. This maybe is the may en:WP works, but not the other projects. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Sure, please, don't stop thinking. But have you any reason to consider that the rule shouldn't be applied in this case? Just compare the picture of a Coryphaena hippurus and this picture, and conclude yourself. It you still feel unsure, ask several fish specialists, here, on the German Wikipedia, or anywhere. If they all agree on something, please, trust them. Lmaltier (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

Hallo Marcus! Danke für die schnelle Umbenennung von Ranunkel und Kirschpflaume.Das ging ja wie derBlitz!!Nochmals vielen Dank und ein schönes WE von----Martin1009 -the Seeker 20:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Immer wieder gerne :). Ich finde es übrigens schon lustig, daß bei der Frage Kirsche oder Pflaume Kirschpflaume rauskommt ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Ja dank unserer guten Bioabteilung war das schnell geklärt! Viele Grüße von----Martin1009 -the Seeker 20:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Files File:Space Engineers 1.jpg through File:Space Engineers 10.jpg[edit]

The developers have indicated in an email to me that they agree to publish these images under CC-BY-SA. I have sent this email to the permissions-commons email address and it is pending their approval. Please do not remove these images. Entropy (talk) 14:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I remove nothing - it is a four-eyes-principle. I request, that a second person takes a look. Now the images are deleted by an adminstrator. Why don't you write such essential informations in the description? How I should now this? There are coming every day thousands of copyvios. We can not ask for every single image, if there maybe an approval is coming. All Informations should be in the description and there never would ba a problem. We can restore the images, when the approval is here. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I followed the instructions at en:Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission. I added Template:OTRS pending to the talk page for each image. The instructions didn't mention this wasn't sufficient or that including information in the description was also necessary. Entropy (talk) 14:38, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I never saw this on a talk page - always on the page. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Then these instructions are incorrect and should be changed as it would be easy for someone else to follow them and do just what I did. Entropy (talk) 14:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Chief Crazy Horse.jpg[edit]

My proof:

  1. http://www.american-tribes.com/Lakota/BIO/LittleBigMan.htm
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Man
  3. Photo: "Little Big Men. Photo from U.S. Signal Corps" // "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. Picador. Pan Books Ltd. London. 1970 ISBN 0-330-24569-4.

Сергей 6662 (talk) 00:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

OK - the next time please tell it directly with the request. And change the description and the category. Makes everything easier. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:38, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Name vase of the Penelope painter[edit]

Hi, Marcus. I am Eunostos, a French contributor often working on topics and files related to ancient Greece. I am sorry to write to you in English, but I'd rather do this than inflict my German upon you, for it is embarrassingly poor (for now). I am contacting you about the five pictures stored in Category:Name vase of the Penelope Painter (you uploaded them in 2007, 2008 and 2013). Are you sure that this vase is really the name vase of the Penelope Painter ? I was searching for pictures of the name vase of this painter and I found some on the Perseus database. But according to Perseus, the name vase of the Penelope Painter is the Chiusi 1831 showing different scenes. Perseus seems to be right, for I found the reference in a book by Timothy Gantz about Greek myths and his description matches the pictures shown on Perseus. I talked about this problem on Category talk:Name vase of the Penelope Painter. Is this an erreor, or maybe a different attribution or classification ? (Apart from this problem, the reference of the vase on your files is correct : F2588 in the Pergamonmuseum in Berlin.) Thank you for reading me and thank you anyway for the photos ! --Eunostos (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Eunostos. First of all - I don't speak French - so English is completely OK. It is a multilingual project, we need such a "lingua franca". To the Skyphos. You are absolutely right - I already have changed it. I can't figure out, how this mistake was happen (btw. terrible images, but it is really hard to take photos of this vase). The name vase is the one in Chiusi. Thanks for being so attentive :). Would be fine to see one more, who's working on this area here at Commons. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Unutrašnjost bg voza.jpg >>> File:Unutrašnjost BG Voza.jpg[edit]

Can you rename picture to correct name File:Unutrašnjost BG Voza.jpg ? --Kolega2357 (talk) 21:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sure. But it is not allowed to rename other uploaders images to english - the Community is here strict. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

software errors[edit]

What happened?    FDMS  4    16:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't know. The software tears the image and the text apart. The file was still there under the new name - but without any discription (so it was at the end not really there). I hat to c&p the discription text and after saving all was there under the new name. Don't happens often - but sometimes. Seems the software had there a bug or something has happened. Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Don't you think an import of the version history might be necessary? Your target page is still existing, without the file …    FDMS  4    16:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
An ridirect should be enough, I think. Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:29, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

File rename[edit]

So you saw no valid reason to trim down the long name of File:California Chrome at the 2014 San Felipe with Victor Espinoza on board and Alan Sherman..jpg - however, did you notice there are two periods before Jpg? (..jpg?) Think it's worth at least fixing that glitch, even if you don't feel the need to shorten the caption? Also, and to the point, the identical image at en.wikipedia has been approved to be moved over here and it is named File:California Chrome at 2014 San Felipe.jpg. So what to do to reconcile all this is your call, but I hope you now understand the situation. Montanabw (talk) 22:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

You're cause is, we should rename the file, because there is a file with the same name at en:WP. This is not a valid cause - this is simply the contrary of a valid cause. Marcus Cyron (talk) 10:40, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Requst[edit]

Hello Marcus Cyron! If you remember, a while ago I asked you about whether I could have deleted an old version of a file that I myself uploaded. If I'm not mistaken, you said that old versions are not normally deleted on Commons. Still, I'd like to have the old version of this file deleted. The reason is that the old version doesn't contain EXIF data. I personally don't like images without EXIF data. More often than not, such files are copied from other websites. In addition, I have noticed that this old version is used in some social networks. Therefore, I think we should delete the picture in order to avoid any copyright problems. By the way, I'm trying to have this picture deleted as well. You can find the reason for my request here. Please take a look at it too. Thank you in advance! Nataev talk 08:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but we can't delete the image, when it is used there. This would be really mean. You have published the image here under a free licence and the reusers trust that they can refer to the image. It xould be really unfair, when they can not longe say where the original is. This would break massively the trust in Commons. And as long you are the photographer of an image, the exif-datas would be good, but we not really need them. We need at the end the image. I don't understand, why aou uploaded the new image over the old one. Bothimages show the house in very different situations. It really would be the best for Commons, if we woud have both images for free choice. I really see no cause for a deletion. Be proud of giing two different images of one motive. They both help us :). Marcus Cyron (talk) 10:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, OK! Youʼve convinced me. Haha. Nataev talk 10:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Earth auch in Deutschland[edit]

Hallo Marcus, ich bin für Wiki Loves Earth auf der Suche nach einem Commons-Admin, der uns bei der Erstellung einer Campaign hilft - als Beispiel seien die Österreicher genannt. Fühlst du dich da kompetent, das für uns einzurichten? - Eine Übersicht über die aktuell bestehenden WLE-Campaigns gibts hier - im Prinzip sollen für WLE-DE der Uploadlink in unseren Tabellen und die Campaign in Commons ähnlich aussehen. Leider fehlt uns hier rundum das KnowHow, z.B. frage ich mich wie weit zB. ein Split der Campaign in verschiedene Bereiche (LSG, NSG etc.pp, wie es zb die Ösis gemacht haben) sinnvoll ist. --Ordercrazy (talk) 06:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Ich seh grad: Auch bei der Vorlagenmagie bräuchte ich Hilfe. Bei den Österreichern sieht das so aus: Campaign:wle-at-nd, die Vorlage ist hier: Template:Naturdenkmal_Österreich. Bei uns ist das komplizierter, weil unser Upload-Link bzw. die deutsche Vorlage alles abbildet: NSGs, LSGs, Geotope, Naturparks, Naturdenkmäler, FFH-Gebiete etc.pp - zudem haben wir nicht überall eine ID und schon gar keine bundesweit eigene ID. Ich fürchte, da ist auch WLE-Intern noch Diskussionsbedarf da. Ist es möglich, das erstmal ohne ID-Baustein, aber soweit vorbereitet zu übernehmen, dass wir so einen ggf. nach Bundesland und Denkmaltyp getrennt (also z.B. "Geotop in Bayer mit ID x" und "Naturschutzgebiet in Hessen mit ID Y") separierten Baustein ohne viel Mühe nachrüsten können? --Ordercrazy (talk) 07:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Um auf deine Eingangsfrage mal so zu antworten: ich verstehe kaum ein Wort von dem, was du schreibst ;). Das ist so völlig ausserhalb meines Gebietes. Ich würde dich mal an Raymond verweisen. Für alles was auch nur im Ansatz technisch ist, bin ich so gar nicht zu gebrauchen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 09:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
danke (trotzdem)! --Ordercrazy (talk) 12:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Sowjetisches Ehrenmal Grünheide[edit]

Bitte um Angabe der Lage dieses Denkmals. Ich finde in Grünheide keine Grünheider Strasse – danke. -- Хрюша ?? 07:22, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Die fand ich auch nicht, weil es sich um die Straße nach Grünheite, aber noch ausserhalb des eigentlichen Ortes handelt. Es liegt direkt an der Autobahnabfahrt der Autobahn 10 (Berliner Ring) Erkner/Grünheide. Marcus Cyron (talk) 10:11, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Danke, habe es gefunden. Da in GE dort noch Fangschleuse (?) dazwischen liegt, habe ich nicht so weit westlich gesucht. -- Хрюша ?? 11:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Grünheide zeiht sich mittlerweile ganz schön... - ich habe als ich dort unterwegs war, auch ganz schön lange gebraucht um alles zu erreichen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:47, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Strassenname ist in der Datei angepasst. -- Хрюша ?? 11:49, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Atti re-figure Pyxis depicting a hand National Museum in Warsaw.jpg[edit]

Hi, can you please restore previous name of this file? why it was changed to this one? previous one was short and clear, while this one is not. Vert (talk) 16:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Do you know, how much pyxides from athens are in the world? Hundreds! It is not OK in my opinion, to name one of them so unspecfic. Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)