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File:Itaú Cultural, Avenida Paulista, Brazil.jpg, featured[edit]

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taú Cultural, Avenida Paulista, Brazil
About the artwork on the wall, it's a permanent exposition and pages from Historia Naturalis Brasiliae (English: Brazilian Natural History), originally written in Latin, is the first scientific book about Brazil, written by Dutch naturalist Willem Piso and published in 1648 (PD-old). Also, I applied a barrel distortion fix, let me know if it's ok for you. Thanks --The Photographer 11:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Glad the artwork is ok. However, it is just too wonky and the left side appears to have some copy/paste cloning going on above the lift door. There's barely a straight line. I'd be ok with that if this was a fisheye lens but I'm not sure what we're seeing here. The red clothes and legs is also distracting. I'm suspecting this is a stiched-handheld photo, and you really need to get that pano head to do this to FP standard. -- Colin (talk) 13:38, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's a striched image and I haven't a fisheye lens. BTW Yes, I will buy that nodal ninja this year, however, I'm asking for somebody that only will travel in six months --The Photographer 13:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - It's a very good and appealing composition, IMO. Colin's concerns about copyright are well taken, but I don't know how or whether they should be addressed at FPC. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ikan I don't think it generally should be extensively discussed at FP, but I think that images with any doubt might be worth getting checked at DR before nominating here. Our "finest" work does have to genuinely be free. -- Colin (talk) 08:47, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. But since it's already nominated here, I think the recourse is the same, anyway: A nomination at DR. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would think this would be kept in a DR as per COM:DM. The stairs are the focus with the walls of images being incidental and unavoidable where the stairs don't block them. None of the pictures on the wall is big enough to extract a workable copy. They may also be PD-old-XX as The Photographer states below. Daphne Lantier 02:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Barrel distortion. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:23, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    ✓ Done Thanks King of, please, take a look and tell me if it's ok for you --The Photographer 11:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately I have to  Oppose barring a substantial improvement in the stitching. If you compare the old and new versions superimposed on each other, you see that only part of the image has been modified, suggesting that it was corrected manually, which is error-prone. There is now a kink in the curve of the ceiling, which doesn't seem to have been there in reality. Meanwhile, the curved pictures on the right are still not fixed. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:30, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to define three things. 1) The striched image was handmade as well 2) The paintings on the wall are not aligned because severals artworks have a different size from the others. 3) With respect to reality, only a lens 50 mm FF should show a "human view like it's reality", a striched image is a human creation impossible to see through the eyes because the vision angle (wide) and because the distortion. Thanks for your comments, for me this kind of technical comments are very important to me and I respect them a lot. I promise to take them into account as much as possible --The Photographer 11:39, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate it is hard, and I've spent many hours myself trying to fix up handheld stitched interiors, and had my failures too (Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Foreign and Commonwealth Office - Durbar Court.jpg). The standard for interiors is pretty high at FP. This is also challenging subject as it appears to be quite a small space. -- Colin (talk) 12:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Your result is excellent and I think that with a corners distortion fix it could be improved. It is difficult for me to give an opinion especially because I consider you superior in knowledge in these subjects, however, btw the problem is barrel distortion, when pulling in a very wide amount of information from off axis, light gets distorted based on how extreme of an angle it is coming in at because the lens can't completely correct for how far off the lens axis the light is. Line bending is just a characteristic of lenses that wide- and many people use them to achieve that effect. It becomes a problem when one uses them to accommodate smaller APS-C sensors: if one goes wide enough to get the compositon one needs, it often results in unwanted distortion. In your case, my sugestion is reshape with Photoshop's liquify tool or Liquid Rescale GIMP plugin but this requires a great deal of skill and time. You can see a example on this original and the result, in this case Liquid Rescale GIMP plugin --The Photographer 12:35, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I make sure I turn on Lightroom's "Lens profile correction" before exporting files for stitching. That should mean any lens distortion is extremely low for all my lenses other than the fisheye. Remaining distortion is then the result of the projection chosen. But with handheld panos (or where a proper calibrated panoramic head isn't used) then the parallax errors add their own distortions as the algorithms assume the frames are all taken from a source point. Using SmartBlend is better at hiding these but sometimes the errors are so large that the stitching program makes the scene too distorted. I don't think liquify is the best solution, and the edit made to this file seems too crude and not really fixing the problem. I'll look at your snow pictures later. Another solution, for small rooms, is to abandon attempting a flat image but take a 360° panorama that one can move about it. Not sure your bank would be happy with that, though :-). -- Colin (talk) 12:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, It's just the interior of Itaú Cultural and the art in the wall is PD-old --The Photographer 16:04, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LivioAndronico For security reasons they can not leave me alone or move from their place. They are security guards, this is the inside of a bank. --The Photographer 18:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ok  Neutral --LivioAndronico (talk) 18:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /Yann (talk) 21:27, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Interiors
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