User talk:Elcobbola
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Special:CentralAuth/Nawazprincehai's local attachment request
w:en:User talk:Nawazprincehai has requested to have a local account on Commons, but their IP range is checkuserblock-ed by you. Mind taking a look and actioning as appropriate? —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with this process. Do I have the ability to attach accounts to the Commons? I currently have no reason to object to their attachment, but I have no intention of changing the range block per my comments at User talk:2401:4900:2EE4:3AF3:0:5A:2F:7301. Эlcobbola talk 17:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you do. The special page is Special:CreateLocalAccount. (All admins have the technical ability to, but given that it's a checkuser block I wouldn't without your approval.) —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- This should be done. Thanks for explaining--old dog, new tricks. Эlcobbola talk 18:07, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and thank you! —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- This should be done. Thanks for explaining--old dog, new tricks. Эlcobbola talk 18:07, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you do. The special page is Special:CreateLocalAccount. (All admins have the technical ability to, but given that it's a checkuser block I wouldn't without your approval.) —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Hey…
Don’t you think there’s something wrong with the IPs here…? RodRabelo7 (talk) 17:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- And here… RodRabelo7 (talk) 17:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well, yes. The 2603:7000:B8F0:960::::/64 is already blocked and the 2600:1017:B027:C884::::/64 hasn't edited in 3 days, so I'm unsure why you're asking. Эlcobbola talk 17:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Unsure
Hi @Elcobbola. I'm unsure if I should file an SPI or not. I noticed spam from Gepind2024, who appears to be Gepind, a spammer blocked on en-wiki several years ago for spam. I deleted two of their uploads today at: File:Gepind Panganiban Requierme.jpg and File:Gepind P. Requierme.jpg pretty much for the same reason. They re-uploaded one (which I couldn't delete again? not sure why) They have been blocked on en-wiki per en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gepind2024. I'm not much into SPIs so I really don't want to waste a CUs time. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @TheAafi Please do not file a duplicative RFCU here, the result there can justify blocks here. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I thought. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @TheAafi: Jeff is correct. Because SUL accounts are consistent across projects, CU findings are valid across projects and do not require additional checks absent some special circumstance. Even if there were not an x-wiki CU finding (which was actually itself a {{Duck}} finding--indeed per the following), additional things to note: 1) Gepind has not edited the Commons since 10 June 2019 and would thus be
Stale (there would be no Gepind data to which to compare Gepind2024) and 2) even if not stale, this would be a case where a CU is not needed ({{Duck}})), as "Checkuser is a last resort for difficult cases." (COM:RFCU) Name similarity (Gepind v Gepind2024), highly esoteric topic, and effective recreation of content ([1][2]), in the aggregate, make the connection obvious (i.e., not a "difficult case" requiring CU tools to establish a connection.) Эlcobbola talk 15:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Elcobbola, this helps. Thanks for the detailed note. I was able to clear a lot of doubts. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I saw that you blocked the first as a sock, and the second seems to be acting in the same space as the first, and has a knowledge of Italian. I don't know enough of the scenario to do more than I have currently done, which is 2 hr block and ask to follow instruction. Thanks if you can have a look. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Confirmed. Thanks for letting me know. Эlcobbola talk 14:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Undelete request
Can you please undelete Category:Anand Vihar Terminal–Dehradun Vande Bharat Express. There are images in Category:Anand Vihar Terminal - Dehradun Vande Bharat Express that need to be moved there. Thanks. --R'n'B (talk) 21:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Categories deleted as empty (C2) can be recreated at any time by good faith users when there are images to be so categorised; no additional process or permission from the deleting admin is needed. In this case, I'm not inclined to restore given a username issue and that the sock's choice of subcategories may or may not have been appropriate, so please simply recreate the category as desired. Эlcobbola talk 21:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Overlapping SPI cases
Hi Elcobbola, I found your recent closure on Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Jurisdrew. I heavily suspect (and others do too looking at the page) that this is the same case as Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Hom Ling Zum. Should these be combined? Best, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 13:31, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Chipmunkdavis, I would not be inclined to do anything. If they are both Jurisdrew, combination expends additional community resources for no gained insight. If they are distinct LTAs, combination may obscure relevant history. Эlcobbola talk 15:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: However, any username suspected of belonging to either user can be reported to m:srg for immediate action as global lock evasion. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Easy to blame ...
... when you are the only one who sees the full image. I cannot see images before they are restored, so I could not see that the photo with the .jpg-extension was actually the right one. And the admin you blamed has no insight into the ticket. We both tried to do our best under the given circumstances. :-/
Concerning the file description you reverted: According to the ticket, the license is cc-by-sa-4.0, not cc-0. And the author should be Louise Carrin, unless you have evidence that she is identical to the user Adelfilm.
Cheers, Mussklprozz (talk) 21:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't recall blaming anyone for anything, and you are welcome to make (and should) whatever license updates are needed. Эlcobbola talk 21:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Ask for files restoration
Hello, can you restore these two files (File:Buste de Madame Pommery.jpg, File:Dressoir Chemin d'automne.jpg) ? There is a subtlety in the display of the Musée de Reims. The copyright symbol is only used to give the name of the photographer (in any case, it has no legal value in France). The image is clearly marked as being in the public domain ("Domaine public" in [3] and [4]) unlike this example where this is not the case : [5] where a copyright owner is noted, and you can find the sentence « Cette œuvre est soumise à droits et son visuel ne peut pas être diffusé librement. » (This artwork have copyright and can’t be freely shared). Thank you ! Lucas Lévêque (talk) 16:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is not evident that "Domaine public" refers to the photograph rather than the subject/work. In fact, it is contradicted by the photographer credit of "© Christian Devleeschauwer" where "©" means "copyright" (copyright and public domain are, of course, mutually exclusive). Could you point me to something that reconciles this contradiction? Alternatively, do you have a source that establishes Christian Devleeschauwer to be an employee of the museum? Эlcobbola talk 17:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, I know that it’s not evident. You can find in the EULA page here this phrase : « Les images des œuvres dans le domaine public sont libres de droit et d’utilisation, la mention de l’auteur du cliché est mentionnée » (Images of artworks in the public domain are free of rights and use, the author of the photo is mentioned.) So it’s just a mention, not copyright recognition. On the blog of the photograph he said « j’intègre la fonction publique » (I am joining the public service), who is the museum and the City of Reims (who owned the museum). Is that enought ? Thank you ! Lyokoï (talk) 10:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the terms "Les images des œuvres dans le domaine public sont libres de droit et d’utilisation, la mention de l’auteur du cliché est mentionnée" are not adequate. For example: 1) we do not know that their understanding of "free of use" is the same as ours (as one very common example, the Pexels license is described by Pexels to be free, but contains restrictions on derivatives that render it insufficiently free for our purposes; 2) relatedly, it is not a license (COM:L requires specific license); and 3) it does not address perpetual duration, which it explicitly must. As I'm sure you've noted, our hope is "Les prises de vue réalisées par Les Musées de la Ville de Reims sont libres de droits", which is why we want to establish Devleeschauwer as a museum employee. I might be persuaded by that link if there is supporting context, so perhaps you can help me: why would "©" (copyright) be used if employee works are public domain (mutually exclusive of copyright)? Why would Devleeschauwer as a person be credited instead of the museum/employer as here, for example? Эlcobbola talk 16:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, I know that it’s not evident. You can find in the EULA page here this phrase : « Les images des œuvres dans le domaine public sont libres de droit et d’utilisation, la mention de l’auteur du cliché est mentionnée » (Images of artworks in the public domain are free of rights and use, the author of the photo is mentioned.) So it’s just a mention, not copyright recognition. On the blog of the photograph he said « j’intègre la fonction publique » (I am joining the public service), who is the museum and the City of Reims (who owned the museum). Is that enought ? Thank you ! Lyokoï (talk) 10:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Unblocking the IP address
Hello, I hope you're well. We're hosting a photography contest called Wiki Loves Vizag 2024. We received a message on Instagram informing us that the IP address 2401:4900:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 was disabled by Elcobbola. Could you kindly look into this matter? --iMahesh (talk) 07:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi iMahesh, this range has experienced significant disruption by multiple LTAs. As an example and reasonableness test, en.wiki has also blocked this /32 range until April 2026 and removed talk page access. The user will need to wait until the block expires or create an account on a sister project. Эlcobbola talk 08:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the revert, I requested him to created an account via Mobile data and it worked. --iMahesh (talk) 15:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Would you be willing to lift the block if the user explicitly promises to only upload photographs taken by himself? Trade (talk) 11:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- No. COM:BP asks an understanding of the issue and a credible commitment to discontinue. The credibility of such a promise ("if the user explicitly promises") would necessarily be tethered to those considerations, and thus would be meaningless in their absence. This user: 1) has zero unproblematic uploads (i.e., no evidence they have the capacity); 2) has derivate work copyvios (i.e., no evidence they would even understand what "photographs taken by himself" means); 3) despite having what is prohibited explained to them in great detail, nevertheless continued copyvios after the expiration of their previous block; and 4) even after their current block, has demonstrated they continue not to understand the issue. I cannot help those who do not read what is presented directly to them. Эlcobbola talk 15:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Commons checkuser icon
Hello, I have noticed that you have reverted my image addition on Commons:Checkusers and that you specified that it was an "inappropriate image addition". Could you please explain why it was removed and when to add these images? Thank you! 2003 LN6 17:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Undeleting gov.md materials
Hello!
May I ask you to review the deleted files listed here User talk:Editor1722/Archive 1#Deleted content and undelete the ones that have gov.md as their source? As of today recently, the site has retroactively adopted a free license. Thank you! Gikü (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Gikü, I will more specific information. At least some of those files are YouTube screenshots (i.e., not ones sourced to gov.md); please list the specific files you believe are now free, and please provide a link to gov.md site that identifies the same. Эlcobbola talk 14:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Uh, I don't think I'd be able to provide such a list, I don't remember remember the source for each of them. But I recall that some of them were official photos screenshotted from gov.md, for example it seems that I have reuploaded File:Rodica Iordanov 2022.png as File:Iordanca-Rodica Iordanov official photo, 2022.jpg. I suspect that other files coming from gov.md are File:Olesea Stamate 2022.png, File:Anatolie Nosatii 2023.png, File:Mircea Buga 2022.png, File:Evghenia Guțul 2023.png. Thank you for looking into it! Gikü (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- File:Rodica Iordanov 2022.png is not the same image as File:Iordanca-Rodica Iordanov official photo, 2022.jpg. The former is a screenshot from a YouTube video, not a the portrait you've uploaded. In fact, all the files you've listed are YouTube screenshots. You can see the YouTube sources and "screenshot" deletion rationales for each in the file logs (visible to all, not just admins); for example: File:Olesea Stamate 2022.png log is here. Эlcobbola talk 15:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Poor memory, then :( Thank you anyway! Sorry for taking your time. Gikü (talk) 15:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- File:Rodica Iordanov 2022.png is not the same image as File:Iordanca-Rodica Iordanov official photo, 2022.jpg. The former is a screenshot from a YouTube video, not a the portrait you've uploaded. In fact, all the files you've listed are YouTube screenshots. You can see the YouTube sources and "screenshot" deletion rationales for each in the file logs (visible to all, not just admins); for example: File:Olesea Stamate 2022.png log is here. Эlcobbola talk 15:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Uh, I don't think I'd be able to provide such a list, I don't remember remember the source for each of them. But I recall that some of them were official photos screenshotted from gov.md, for example it seems that I have reuploaded File:Rodica Iordanov 2022.png as File:Iordanca-Rodica Iordanov official photo, 2022.jpg. I suspect that other files coming from gov.md are File:Olesea Stamate 2022.png, File:Anatolie Nosatii 2023.png, File:Mircea Buga 2022.png, File:Evghenia Guțul 2023.png. Thank you for looking into it! Gikü (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm coming to you because of an allegation at en.wiki that the above user is a sock of Faizanalivarya. Faizanalivarya was recently blocked by User:Yann for one week for uploading non-free images. In looking at a couple of the images uploaded by Piyushghadgep2, it looks to me like they are facially copyright violations as well. For example, File:Sahil Khan Wife 01.jpg is copied from Instagram. I was about to tag the image as a copyright violation, but I decided it would be more efficient to ask you to look at not only that image but the others, all of which are similar (and some mislabeled as to the subjects), and at the same time, if you're willing, to run a check of the two users to see if they are related. Also possible of course that they are meat puppets rather than sock puppets. Thanks for your help. Bbb23 (talk) 15:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- From what I can see, Piyushghadgep2 has exclusively edited, across all projects, in relation to only two subjects: w:Sahil Khan (Indian actor) and w:Negar Khan (Norwegian/Iranian actor in India). Faizanalivarya does not appear to have edited those subjects or topics (Indian showbusiness/Bollywood) and instead appears primarily focused on athletes from disparate countries and Pakistani institutions and people (journalists, politicians, etc. - I did not see actors). Commons uploads also appear quite different in terms of naming convention, information and description provided at upload, etc. The socking allegation on en.wiki appears to based on the purport that Faizanalivarya had a "real life" meeting with Sahil Khan, but the email purporting to evidence the same is in a queue to which I do not have access. In short, unless I've overlooked something, I don't currently see or have access to sufficient evidence. Commons CU @Krd: is very involved in VRT and may have access to that queue and may be able to look at this; if not, I'd be inclined to wait for the en.wiki SPI results and to handle Commons uploads based on copyright in the meantime. Эlcobbola talk 16:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for such a detailed explanation, and it all sounds reasonable. Are you going to look at the uploads by Piyushghadgep2 on your own, or do they need to be tagged?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay; I've deleted them. Эlcobbola talk 13:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for such a detailed explanation, and it all sounds reasonable. Are you going to look at the uploads by Piyushghadgep2 on your own, or do they need to be tagged?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Discuss
Dear Admin I have uploaded 3 images to Wikimedia Commons. Please let me know if there is any mistake. Because I don't want to be blocked again. Siam12367 (talk) 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please consider reading notices instead of blanking them. Please also consider reading critically; I am unable to understand how you reconcile "everything you find on the web is copyrighted and not permitted here" (bold in original), which appeared eight times (!!!) in that blanking, with continuing to upload images taken from social media. Эlcobbola talk 13:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
User:Claggy
Hi. This active user on Persian and English Wikipedia Special:CentralAuth/Claggy has asked me in Persian Wikipedia whether their access in Commons can be restored so they can contribute to Persian Wikipedia articles with images and they say they use a shared IP with millions others from a cellular network provider they can't control. I don't have any prior knowledge about the user and have seen them for the first time but went to check their deleted uploads in Commons which showed unfamiliarity with Commons rules however given usefulness of their contributions in Persian Wikipedia thought their request perhaps can be considered. Thanks! −ebrahimtalk 13:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Even with involvement of a wide shared IP, technical data are always considered with behaviour. Claggy, an only 38-day-old account, for example, just so happened to upload the exact image JRM2018 socks have sought to include (e.g., Royaii, etc.). One image being a coincidence is possible, but more telling is Claggy just so happened also to upload Goodary's "official logo", which, again, had been previously uploaded and groomed by JRM2018 socks (e.g., AriaTess, Miladtayan, etc. for File:Reza Goodary Logo.png and File:Reza Goodary Logo (Horizontal).png). Uploading "official logos" for people, as opposed to organisations, is something that rarely, if ever, occurs--and is not done for purposes other than promotion, which is what JRM2018 (and socks) contributions have been. Claggy also just so happened to recreate the previously (at least thrice, including by DR) deleted w:Reza Goodary, for which the very first edit was little more than medal pomp. The evidence is that Claggy, at best, is involved with JRM2018, Goodary, or those who seek to promote Goodary and thus a meatpuppet. At worst, they are yet another sock. This is, of course, in addition to having made zero appropriate contributions to the Commons. I see no reason to unblock this account; the Commons block in no way prevents "usefulness of their contributions in Persian Wikipedia." Эlcobbola talk 15:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't know about any of these and just tried to translate and forward a message I happened to receive that I didn't know anything else about, thanks for the elaborative explanation, it was more comprehensive than I was expected or even needed −ebrahimtalk 15:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. I don't make blocks lightly or without good reason, and it's a particular pet peeve when the disingenuous "without any warning" line is used, so I attempt to take explanation seriously. You might want to look into this editor on fa.wiki--JRM2018 is blocked there and globally. As additional example, genuine new editors do not create common.js pages as their very first edit to a project. :) Эlcobbola talk 16:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't know about any of these and just tried to translate and forward a message I happened to receive that I didn't know anything else about, thanks for the elaborative explanation, it was more comprehensive than I was expected or even needed −ebrahimtalk 15:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Need to check
Vovanthuongctn and Vangiangphanbqp. There are very similar naming methods, suspecting the same person. Sử dụng hợp lí (talk) 13:31, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please file a request at COM:RFCU. Эlcobbola talk 15:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Gelöschtes Bild von Meryem Uzerli
Hallo @Elcobbola Ich habe ein Screenshot eines Videos eines Bildes von Meryem Uzerli gemacht. Leider wurde es ohne Löschvorschlag gelöscht. Zuvor wurde ein anderes Bild von mir zu Löschung vorgeschlagen. Allerdings wurde die Schablone mit dem Löschvorschlag nach meinen Nachfragen wieder entfernt. In diesem Fall wurde nicht mal ein Löschvorschlag gemacht und das Bild sofort gelöscht. Das Video enthält auf Youtube eine Creative Commons licence Angabe . Kann man die Löschung des Bildes rückgängig machen? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr60tOgWBQ4 Avestaboy (talk) 19:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nein. Wie erwähnt, siehe Commons:Kriterien für die Schnelllöschung #F6, Commons:Lizenzwäsche, und Commons:Lizenzen (z.B. »Eine Lizenz kann nur vom Urheberrechtsinhaber [...] erteilt werden«). Эlcobbola talk 19:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Elcobbola Achso danke für den Hinweis. Ich dachte dieses Bild wäre von Wada7 direkt. Leider werden manchmal Bilder voreilig gelöscht. Selbst ein Bild von Yalda Abbasi was ich selbst mit einem Smartphone aufgenommen habe wurde gelöscht . Weil man dachte ich hätte es vom jemand anderem übernommen. In diesem Fall hast du Recht.Ich wusste nicht das das Bild von jemand anderem stammt. Das zeigt mal wieder das man beim Hochladen von Bildern vorsichtig sein muss. Gruß Avestaboy (talk) 19:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for deletion of user space
Hi Elcobbola,
Could you please delete my user page (User:Ulubatli Hasan)? — Hasan 08:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
I need your help
Hello,I have seen your Message on my talk page regarding many files for speedy deletation. As you have given me warning about that,i would like to say that all copyvio files that were uploaded earlier were my fault as I was a newbie(currently iam, but now a little bit old). please consider this and also you can delete all earlier copyvio files at once.
thanking
--KEmel49 (talk) 19:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- You will need to identify (tag for deletion) the referenced copyvios. I am not willing, or even necessarily able, to sort through all of your historical uploads to identify issues. Эlcobbola talk 13:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Blocking LewisFan3393933884
Hello, Elcobbola. Could you please blocking LewisFan3393933884? Because from what i see at edit history, he is long-term abuse and suspected sockpuppet of Jordanene7, which we know that Jordanene7's sockpuppets uploaded poorly-traced SVG file and persistently uploaded PNG file as a SVG, however, it cannot be vectorized whatsoever. They also be long-term abusers. Yayan550 (talk) 13:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi! The photo I've uploaded to commons was made by me personally, he was my relative - mothers uncle. I'm not commonly visiting Wiki these days, so it appears a year ago you deleted the photo of Ara Baghdasaryan, a prominent Armenian artist. You have a link to another Ara Baghdasaryan's Facebook to his pic, it's funny, but I know him as well, he's a film producer working for Armenia TV where I was the art director for 9 years. They are different people - one artist passed away, my relative (FB page here: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004673043250), the other film producer (https://www.facebook.com/ara.baghdasaryan.9). And this is mine just in case: https://www.facebook.com/517design/ I anyway now have no chance to access to my previous photos, so I can't recover the photo at the moment. Just wanting to let you know you deleted a photo of a prominent Armenian artist, chair of Fine Art Academy and type designer, just for fun having no ground. You can say the uploader is informed about deletion requests, but unless you are a Wiki adept, spending hours here weekly, you can't know that. So good luck improving Wiki commons like you did here. Cheers. 517design (talk) 12:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The image you uploaded was deleted by Túrelio. I deleted a different image, uploaded by a different user, under the same file name. Unless you were socking as ErikGhukasyanam? While I am unsure how you reconcile this bad faith piffle ("just for fun having no ground"; "So good luck improving Wiki commons like you did here") with the purport of no longer wasting time here, if you stay, consider reviewing COM:AGF. You will be blocked if it continues. Эlcobbola talk 15:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry for accusing you then, I've been here for years, but I can't figure out where to see and what out of these endless textual blocks. I'm just a designer and a photographer working for almost three decades, and wishing to share whatever I possess with public and believing in Open source values. But honestly I have no time to read these countless scroll-downs of text with close to legal vocabulary and countless links between countless similar pages. I'm just disappointed to see the photo deleted, which I personally did once, of a person who had a real influence on graphics and dedicated entire life on this. Block me if you wish anyway. Sorry for accusing you again, I saw your nickname, thought it's you. 517design (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment by SuperSonic337
The reason why I got most of those files from other websites is because I could not find good quality free images of them on Flickr. Please don't deletefilesit was the only way I could get them. Also, the 1923 Louisiana black and gray plate was a photo taken from my phone, I couldn't upload the file from my phone, so I had to post it online and then send it to the website.i les SuperSonic337 (talk) 12:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- That you cannot find free images does not justify uploading unfree images. Эlcobbola talk 12:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, that was my photo. The website you have linked has a different photo on it, taken on a different time with more flowers and plants. They are two different files. Janik98 (talk) 17:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're correct. My apologies; I've restored the image. Эlcobbola talk 17:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I must also say that the photo of Politicians I have uploaded should be under Commons, because I followed the template:dati.camera.it, which is used for a very large number of similar files, as you can see here: Category:Images from the Chamber of Deputies (Italy). I've done something wrong while uploading those two specific files?--Janik98 (talk) 17:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- {{Dati.camera.it}} is for the data explicitly referenced by dati.camera.it. I see no evidence for a claim that it applies to camera.it globally (to the contrary, see below), or that this/these image(s) belong thereto. Verily, your own source says "Camera dei deputati © Tutti i diritti riservati" and has the legal notice that says "L'utilizzo, la riproduzione, l'estrazione di copia, ovvero la distribuzione delle informazioni testuali e degli elementi multimediali disponibili sul sito della Camera dei deputati è autorizzata esclusivamente nei limiti in cui la stessa avvenga nel rispetto dell'interesse pubblico all'informazione, per finalità non commerciali, garantendo l'integrità degli elementi riprodotti e mediante indicazione della fonte." (underline added) A cc-by 3.0 claim on dati.camera.it and an explicit non-commercial claim on camera.it cannot simultaneously be true and, in the case of a contradiction, the plain language of the source government site prevails. Эlcobbola talk 17:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I must also say that the photo of Politicians I have uploaded should be under Commons, because I followed the template:dati.camera.it, which is used for a very large number of similar files, as you can see here: Category:Images from the Chamber of Deputies (Italy). I've done something wrong while uploading those two specific files?--Janik98 (talk) 17:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Long-term abuse
Hi, Elcobbola, how are you? I see that you indeffed this user as an LTA. I've indeffed the same account on en.wp for block evasion, but wasn't aware of the LTA aspect. Can you give me any pointers to other usernames/related discussions/sockpuppet investigations in case further action is needed? – I'd be grateful! Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Justlettersandnumbers: this is Abdo Mitwally. Note that category is highly incomplete, as tagging stopped long ago per DENY and obvious user names. They may well have over 1000 socks; example common username "bases" include:
- "Abdo mitwally" base: Abdo mitwally 110, Abdo mitwally 111, Abdo mitwally 112 ... Abdo mitwally 999; one gets the idea
- "Abdomitwally" base: Abdomitwally 406, Abdomitwally 407, Abdomitwally 407 ... Abdomitwally 1000 ... Abdomitwally7000000000000; one gets the idea.
- They primarily edit related to Egyptian actresses and news personalities. The en.wiki SPI is w:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abdo Mitwally/Archive. Эlcobbola talk 21:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you – we live and learn! Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Is there a criteria like CSD G5 where all the images uploaded by block evading users are deleted? FWIW, the articles where the images have been used will be deleted once the en wiki SPI is clsoed. Jeraxmoira (talk) 10:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, the Commons, foolishly, does not have G5. I haven't looked at the images, but the process would generally be to nominate them for deletion as out-of-scope or as copyvios, if either is applicable. If this is indeed Y Tension, license laundering is highly likely; they tend to favour YouTube videos that display pre-existing photographs (i.e., the YouTuber is not the photographer) or that are simply reuploads of footage from another source. Эlcobbola talk 14:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Elcobbola, could you please check if I have filed this SPI correctly? Its not listed on the main SPI page! Jeraxmoira (talk) 17:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Out of curiosity
I'm in a WP-discussion at [6], and I wondered if you could tell/link me what pic this [7] was. It doesn't matter much, but curious. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's this image. Эlcobbola talk 16:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. It's certainly nicer than the one I uploaded: File:Ewen Ferguson 2023.jpg Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, nicer if you're not a vegan. Эlcobbola talk 16:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- That one was new to me, not bad at all. So, in this analogy, when I told User:Mamadancer on WP "Sorry, vegan only", she brought effing vegan. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, nicer if you're not a vegan. Эlcobbola talk 16:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. It's certainly nicer than the one I uploaded: File:Ewen Ferguson 2023.jpg Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Adding copyright violation images
Hi, User:Jurajko444 has again engaged in adding copyright violation images after getting unblocked/block-expiry.
- File:Oktagon 59- Paradeiser vs. Torres Fight Card.png
- File:Oktagon 59 Paradeiser vs. Torres.jpg
- File:Oktagon 58 Eden.jpg
- File:Oktagon 58 Vémola vs. Végh.jpg
Thanks in advance. Agent 007 (talk) 15:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Blocked again. Эlcobbola talk 15:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Copyrighted Images
Hello, you gave me a warning on my page for posting multiple photos from Kevin Von Duuglas-Ittu who gave me permission in a private chat on Twitter. I messaged him to use the "Wikimedia VRT release generator", which he apparently did, so please don't remove anything. Briantcraven (talk) 17:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- You appear not to have read the numerous warnings or linked guidance provided to you. We do not accept "permission in a private chat on Twitter"; your uploads will be deleted if appropriate permission is not provided. You will be blocked if you continue to upload images without appropriate evidence. Эlcobbola talk 17:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need to be so cold. I read them and replied twice (which I never got a reply to) that I was uploading a lot of his work and would get "appropriate permission", which I believe has now been sent via the "Wikipedia VRT release generator", so I was hoping you could confirm. Briantcraven (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- COM:VRT, linked numerous times on your talk page, includes "Each ticket will be reviewed by a volunteer. If there is sufficient evidence of a valid permission, the volunteer will mark the file(s) concerned as reviewed. The volunteer will also act to restore any files which may have been deleted before the permission could be verified, so when following the procedure described here, there is no need to request undeletion", which I do not find unclear. You nevertheless approached me saying the author apparently sent permission "so please don't remove anything". I consider my response to be perfectly factual. That you perceive it as "cold" is tone policing, suggestive of illegitimacy, and of no interest to me. Your talk page is where users talk to you; that you received no reply there, especially to comments that demonstrate you've not read information provided ("I believe they'll be protected under fair use"), is not surprising. Эlcobbola talk 19:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I figured you were considered a "free volunteer" which is why I contacted you. I also said "apparently" because I linked him to the VRT page with all the info he needed, which he acknowledged, but that's all that I can factually say. See stuff like linking to "suggestive of illegitimacy" is exactly what I mean by being "cold" when I never called into question your authority. I'm just trying to help Wikipedia grow, and am still learning how everything works, so I've actually being reading a lot.
- I received a reply before for a prior mistake so I figured others would reply to me there too. When I said "I believe they'll be protected under fair use", I was referring to a few pictures of deceased fighters taken decades ago for Thai magazines. There are already images uploaded, such as Saenklai_Sit_Kru_Od_with_Lumpinee_Stadium_belt.jpg, which use a similar argument so, yes, I actually have been doing research and reading information provided. Perhaps there is still a misunderstanding there but I can always learn. Thanks. Briantcraven (talk) 20:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Second link didn't work like I intended, like I said still learning, but I took it from his Wiki page so it does exist. Briantcraven (talk) 20:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- You came here to provide the idle speculation of "which he apparently did, so please don't remove anything", suggesting you'd not bothered to read COM:VRT. I advised you of the same. You purport all you know is that he acknowledged being advised of COM:VRT--fine, then, again, what is unclear about "If there is sufficient evidence of a valid permission, the volunteer will mark the file(s) concerned as reviewed. The volunteer will also act to restore any files which may have been deleted before the permission could be verified"? Did you not bother to read COM:VRT, despite it being linked numerous times on your talk page, before posting here? I don't know what you think a "free volunteer" is, why you made that supposition, or why you apparently think your files deserve special consideration over the thousands of others with uploaders who, despite being equally new, have had no such confusion and who are willing to wait their turn for permission to be processed. I don't know what are you seeking to accomplish here, but suggest your time would be better spent reading the guidance provided to you which, also again, you appear not to have done. Эlcobbola talk 14:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest your time would be better spent reading Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. Have a good rest of your day, bye. Briantcraven (talk) 17:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lol neither of those links work either but you get the point Briantcraven (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see an answer to my questions. Your links don't work because this is the Commons, not en.wiki; the latter's provisions do not apply here. Where have I said your intent is to harm the project, the premise of AGF? Do you realise it's more than a title? In short, I don't know what you're talking about, and you appear not to either. Эlcobbola talk 18:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- See you're still saying stuff like "you appear not to either". What did I do to deserve such disrespect?
- The AGF literally says "it is important to be patient with newcomers, who will be unfamiliar with Wikipedia's culture and rules, but may nonetheless turn out to be valuable contributors" and "when dealing with possible copyright violations, good faith means assuming that editors intend to comply with site policy and the law". Even if I didn't read all of what you said I didn't read, which I did, the behavior guidelines clearly don't agree with how you handled this conversation. Always assuming the worst of me. Briantcraven (talk) 22:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining why the links didn't work at least. Briantcraven (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- What part of en.wiki provisions do not apply here was unclear? You want to be characterised as a newbie, yet are both aware of policies and so confident in your knowledge of them that you seek to lecture an admin of 16 years. You claim to be bitten, yet apparently not so maligned to continue coming here to my page over and over and over again--in fact, the only thing you've done for days. If you're so fond of en.wiki, kindly remain there. Maybe read w:WP:AAGF and w:WP:CIR. Эlcobbola talk 22:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It was unclear as I was assuming you were trying to be helpful and explain that the links were hosted elsewhere. I mostly use the app for Wikipedia so "here" looks all the same to me right now and I didn't realize there was any meaningful distinction even when using the web. I joined 26 days ago so, yes, I am a newcomer. Your position doesn't change the fact we're both human and you've been nothing but harsh. I must still be confused because I found "Commons:Assume good faith" and "Commons: Talk page guidelines" with similar points? I'm coming back to your page because you keep replying to me. That list must not account for my multiple smaller edits since you started messaging me. I slowed down because I spent countless hours working on pages prior so I took a little break.
- Regarding AAGF, I feel I've pointed out multiple examples of your disrespect. Regarding CIR, I agree we should always remember that "one of our core Wikipedia guidelines that facilitates this is assume good faith" and I feel I've made many competent decisions which hopefully others will help improve. Obviously I didn't realize the policy regarding images was so strict, as I got the permission I needed morally and thought I had time to upload a lot so I didn't have to repeatedly bother the photographer, but now I understand. Briantcraven (talk) 23:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It accounts for all edits. Stop coming here. Эlcobbola talk 23:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Noted, have a good rest of your day. Briantcraven (talk) 23:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It accounts for all edits. Stop coming here. Эlcobbola talk 23:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- What part of en.wiki provisions do not apply here was unclear? You want to be characterised as a newbie, yet are both aware of policies and so confident in your knowledge of them that you seek to lecture an admin of 16 years. You claim to be bitten, yet apparently not so maligned to continue coming here to my page over and over and over again--in fact, the only thing you've done for days. If you're so fond of en.wiki, kindly remain there. Maybe read w:WP:AAGF and w:WP:CIR. Эlcobbola talk 22:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining why the links didn't work at least. Briantcraven (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see an answer to my questions. Your links don't work because this is the Commons, not en.wiki; the latter's provisions do not apply here. Where have I said your intent is to harm the project, the premise of AGF? Do you realise it's more than a title? In short, I don't know what you're talking about, and you appear not to either. Эlcobbola talk 18:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lol neither of those links work either but you get the point Briantcraven (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest your time would be better spent reading Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. Have a good rest of your day, bye. Briantcraven (talk) 17:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- You came here to provide the idle speculation of "which he apparently did, so please don't remove anything", suggesting you'd not bothered to read COM:VRT. I advised you of the same. You purport all you know is that he acknowledged being advised of COM:VRT--fine, then, again, what is unclear about "If there is sufficient evidence of a valid permission, the volunteer will mark the file(s) concerned as reviewed. The volunteer will also act to restore any files which may have been deleted before the permission could be verified"? Did you not bother to read COM:VRT, despite it being linked numerous times on your talk page, before posting here? I don't know what you think a "free volunteer" is, why you made that supposition, or why you apparently think your files deserve special consideration over the thousands of others with uploaders who, despite being equally new, have had no such confusion and who are willing to wait their turn for permission to be processed. I don't know what are you seeking to accomplish here, but suggest your time would be better spent reading the guidance provided to you which, also again, you appear not to have done. Эlcobbola talk 14:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Second link didn't work like I intended, like I said still learning, but I took it from his Wiki page so it does exist. Briantcraven (talk) 20:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- COM:VRT, linked numerous times on your talk page, includes "Each ticket will be reviewed by a volunteer. If there is sufficient evidence of a valid permission, the volunteer will mark the file(s) concerned as reviewed. The volunteer will also act to restore any files which may have been deleted before the permission could be verified, so when following the procedure described here, there is no need to request undeletion", which I do not find unclear. You nevertheless approached me saying the author apparently sent permission "so please don't remove anything". I consider my response to be perfectly factual. That you perceive it as "cold" is tone policing, suggestive of illegitimacy, and of no interest to me. Your talk page is where users talk to you; that you received no reply there, especially to comments that demonstrate you've not read information provided ("I believe they'll be protected under fair use"), is not surprising. Эlcobbola talk 19:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need to be so cold. I read them and replied twice (which I never got a reply to) that I was uploading a lot of his work and would get "appropriate permission", which I believe has now been sent via the "Wikipedia VRT release generator", so I was hoping you could confirm. Briantcraven (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
"Unsigned"
My bad, I got the names mixed up. Sorry about that. Bedivere (talk) 23:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Jermboy27
Greetings. It looks like we have two new socks; Manydeedsban777 and Monkong627. They're following the same pattern and have uploaded some questionable images, both pertaining to traffic signs in Iran which is a give away that they're related. Fry1989 eh? 15:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yep,
Confirmed (Manydeedsban777 was already globally locked). Thanks for letting me know. Эlcobbola talk 15:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
How to upload
Pls How do i upload images found on the net ? Afrowriter (talk) 19:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I believe you're already familiar with the UploadWizard. Эlcobbola talk 20:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- yea i meant to say how to get images downloaded from instagram or free domain website approved am kinda new Afrowriter (talk) 05:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- You have received many, many talk page notices--you should actually read them. One notice, for example, said "Files may only be uploaded and included if their copyright status meets the conditions stated in our licensing policy" and you replied "noted thanks". Despite purporting to note the licensing policy, your latest upload is from a source that says "© All rights reserved". Being "kinda new" is no excuse to ignore information placed directly in front of you. Эlcobbola talk 13:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- yea i meant to say how to get images downloaded from instagram or free domain website approved am kinda new Afrowriter (talk) 05:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Copyright Photos
Hey Elcobbola. I keep uploading photos to my wife, Andrea Deck's, wiki page but they keep getting taken down by you and others. Yes the headshot ones are on IMDB and other places, as she is an actress, but she owns the rights to the photos. After several warnings I decided to not bother with these anymore, so I uploaded a photo I took of her on my phone. You also warned me for this and took it down. I don't understand how my own photo can be a copyright infringement. Pls advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ironcondor21 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are presently at least four notices on your talk page that link to guidance on this issue. Why have you not read them? Why do you think calling me "dude" and shouting would make me interested in assisting you? Why, when Andrea's husband is named David, and you've uploaded works purported to be yours but in truth by "Adam [Hills]", do you think we would believe your statements? Эlcobbola talk 19:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Adam Hills is the headshot photographer, and he gives the rights to his clients afterwards to use as their own headshots. I'm sorry I was upset I just am trying to give her a nice profile photo. I thought uploading a personal photo this time would have sorted out the issue and that's why I was mad, I apologize. Ironcondor21 (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see I will have to get Adam to explicitly transfer the rights to us in writing. But the latest photo I uploaded is mine as I am the photographer, and I don't see where exactly I violated the "Commons:But it's my own work!" page. Ironcondor21 (talk) 20:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:But it's my own work! includes "1. The file is my own work, and it has been previously published on another website, including social media. In that case, you will need to update the posting on that other website to add a free license or email us a license release; please read Commons:Volunteer Response Team (VRT) for details on the procedure." (underline added) This is applicable as your most recent upload was previously published here, as I noted. Note also that the former option (update the posting on that other website) will not be applicable as that Instagram account belongs to the subject, whereas copyright initially vests in the author. You, as the author, will need to email evidence using the VRT process, which could include a high resolution version of the image with intact EXIF. Эlcobbola talk 21:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok yes I see! Thank you for clarifying this for me, I very much appreciate it and I appreciate your patience! Ironcondor21 (talk) 22:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:But it's my own work! includes "1. The file is my own work, and it has been previously published on another website, including social media. In that case, you will need to update the posting on that other website to add a free license or email us a license release; please read Commons:Volunteer Response Team (VRT) for details on the procedure." (underline added) This is applicable as your most recent upload was previously published here, as I noted. Note also that the former option (update the posting on that other website) will not be applicable as that Instagram account belongs to the subject, whereas copyright initially vests in the author. You, as the author, will need to email evidence using the VRT process, which could include a high resolution version of the image with intact EXIF. Эlcobbola talk 21:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see I will have to get Adam to explicitly transfer the rights to us in writing. But the latest photo I uploaded is mine as I am the photographer, and I don't see where exactly I violated the "Commons:But it's my own work!" page. Ironcondor21 (talk) 20:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Adam Hills is the headshot photographer, and he gives the rights to his clients afterwards to use as their own headshots. I'm sorry I was upset I just am trying to give her a nice profile photo. I thought uploading a personal photo this time would have sorted out the issue and that's why I was mad, I apologize. Ironcondor21 (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)