User talk:Nilfanion

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File:Rona_1999_track.png

File:Rona_1999_track.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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File:Frank_1999_track.png

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Saddleworth

Hi Nilfanion,

I just wondered if you'd be willing and able to (re)create an "upgraded" version of File:Saddleworth in Greater Manchester.png using File:Greater Manchester UK location map 2.svg as a base and File:Greater Manchester UK parish map (blank).svg for the shape of Saddleworth? The reason being that because of its large size (one of the largest civil parishes in England... or so I'm told), Saddleworth has a different map in its Wikipedia infobox and missed out on the upgrade.

I could make a png version, but think that svg is so much more elegant.

Hope you can help, Jza84 (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!! Very kind!

There are two other requests I'm sheepishly wondering if you can act upon... They are:

1. Make a SVG version of File:Greater Manchester Urban Area 2001.png
2. Make a SVG version of this image (I can add the source material afterwards)

These maps are not essential, but would be great to have at some point. Thank you again, Jza84 (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

File:1980-1981_South-West_Indian_Ocean_cyclone_season_summary.jpg

File:1980-1981_South-West_Indian_Ocean_cyclone_season_summary.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

— Iune(talk) 19:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Chatham Dockyard‎

(diff | hist) . . m Category:Chatham Dockyard‎; 18:51 . . (-4) . . Nilfanion (talk | contribs) (removed Category:Naval buildings of the United Kingdom; added Category:Naval bases of the United Kingdom using HotCat)

I am questioning this recat. The point about Chatham Dockyard is that it in not a naval- base. The former Naval base was one km further down the road, though it did include this the historic bit. The cat does however contain images that are not buildings- but artifacts that have been moved into the museum- photographs were not allowed when this was a functioning base and for many years after it closed. Its well worth a visit- and probably worth contacting the management and organising an official photo wseep of some of that artifacts that are in storage. --ClemRutter (talk) 20:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Highland and Isle of Skye

Hi. Could you make a pin map locator for Isle of Skye and if possible for any of the administraive districts of Highland. The thing is is it such a large area that I think we need better defined locator maps. So long as if has a UK locattor at the side window..Blofeld Dr. (talk) 17:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

A response would be nice on this. Was there some reason why you couldn't make Irish county locators in a similar style?Blofeld Dr. (talk) 16:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Replied to the Skye one on the request page. And reason I haven't done anything in Ireland is data (or lack of it). The OS dataset is for Great Britain only unfortunately, so Ireland can't be done at this time. With the data I can do it but without...--Nilfanion (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

If

You have any really good ideas for cats for this feel free :) Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:30, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes - SX 684804 (ish). Might well do the other one later - thanks, appreciated. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I had five mins & the inclination :) --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

"Your wish etc etc"  :) Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Plus --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Map

Hi, just spotted the map you created of civil parishes in the East Riding of Yorkshire, thanks for that. I was wondering if it could be used on the list of civil parishes article. Probably need to somehow number the parishes so that can show which parish is which in the list, is that possible? Also would be good to have a set of maps with each parish coloured in to go on the civil parish articles. May be if you could do it for a parish such as Anlaby with Anlaby Common and provide instructions then I could produce others as required. Thanks. Keith D (talk) 00:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, many thanks for that, I will give it a go when I get the chance. I did create a ward map for Hull some time ago File:Hull Wards.PNG which is very rough but gives an idea of what I was thinking of doing with the civil parishes. Would be good to do a better one of that map which was more accurate. Keith D 13:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Must be doing something wrong trying to follow the instructions. I tried to save file and if save to computer as is it cannot be opened in firefox. If I save it with the suggested name of 772px-East_Riding_of_Yorkshire_UK_parish_map_(blank).svg.png then it is openable in firefox. Attempting to edit as a text file in both notepad or word does not give anything sensible to allow for editing. Keith D (talk) 20:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing in the right direction. I have created File:Elloughton-cum-Brough UK parish locator map .svg and uploaded - I have used details that you placed on the Anlaby map for it. Probably should have done it without the extra space after map. Keith D (talk) 00:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the file. I did think that the sourcing should mention you and the map it came from. I have now revised it in line with the image you pointed to. Keith D (talk) 12:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Do not know what the ids are used for but in File:East Riding of Yorkshire UK parish map (blank).svg and derivatives the id for Asselby is incorrectly labelled as Assleby. Keith D (talk) 19:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Another typo for you, Foston is labelled Goston. I am creating the set locally before loading but it is slow work. Keith D (talk) 18:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Another typo is Ottingham which should be Ottringham. Keith D (talk) 20:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

You are right. I have now got a set of parish maps for the East Riding and have only found the typos above. Though I have not checked that the correct bit is coloured for the parishes. Just up-loading the existing ones that were created, before starting the slower job of uploading the rest. On the Geograph images a location cat will at least give a handle to locating them, but the amount of images is rather high to make manual progress on. I also notice some odd categories that have been created by users such as Category:Towns, villages and civil parishes in Selby district which do not seem to fit in with the usual naming. Keith D (talk) 19:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know I have now uploaded the full set of 172 parish maps and 1 for the unparished area of Kingston upon Hull. Keith D (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The Lincolnshire one with the long name I did for someone else and just matched the article title without investigating further, they are uploading further Lincolnshire maps. Probably the name is used by the county/district council as I know some of the East Riding ones differ from what the OS call them. I am using what they are known as rather than the OS name in the file name. Keith D (talk) 11:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

The name is shown here on the district council website with commas. Keith D (talk) 19:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Somerset Levels map ? inset

Some time ago you kindly created File:Map of Somerset Levels.png. The article is now at FAC and a reviewer has suggested including an inset map of the British Isles, similar to the one on File:Exmoor National Park UK location map.svg. Could you possibly do that? Rodw (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

COM:COVEN

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Churches in Cornwall

Hello, Thank you for your observations. I began by trying to follow the pattern which existed without editing too many of the files. Because of the settlement pattern of Cornwall it is not always obvious how to categorize churches, whether by civil parish, ecclesiastical parish or actual settlement (e.g. St Nectan's Church in the parish of St Winnow has been given the category of Churches in Lostwithiel). Many of the Methodist chapels are short of information so it is hard to be precise about the categories for them. I hope to be able to make the categorization more consistent later. I do not know whether it is possible to rename a category rather than move each of the files to another one.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:12, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Vire Island

Sorry - missed this one. No it is not an island. The water in that geograph image is not the Dart but the mill stream. I guess in that sense there is a large "island" from the weir where the mill stream comes off to when it rejoins the Dart but I'm pretty sure that would not be a real island! Hope that helps - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

LOL --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice bot

Hi Nilfanion, I like the edits like this one. The next step would be to add the topic and intersect the topic by it's location. Multichill (talk) 16:59, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, yeah its a start - the method I'm using for now can only fix the ones I can specify exactly (so a large proportion won't be touched. As for the topic (and intersection), would it be possible to add the Geograph topic to the Commons page somehow? Either at upload as by a bot run after. Also, the older code for GeographBot - whilst it sometimes resulted in errors on location was good on the subject in county type cats.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:43, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

The upload will just go to the end now. Not sure how I'm going to add the topic categories.

I could just limit it to counties, but that will mean you have to manually sort things out to the villages. Multichill (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

IMO, the first point to aim for is to get everything into as precise a location category as possible and a <topic> in <county> category, or a <topic> in <city/large town> category. Now my bot has IDed the location, another bot can come along and use that. Would it help if I added a new category such as "Geograph files with checked location" to track them?

Bear in mind that no matter how good the bot, the final categorization will have to be by humans (assisted by Cat-a-Lot and similar) for two major reasons:

1. Any file with additional relevant cats aside the Geograph topic will likely need manual attention. For instance, no bot would be able to place this image into the extremely relevant Category:Snow in Dartmoor.
2. Personally, I don't think <topic> in <county> should be necessarily broken down further to <topic> in <village> for many of the most commons ones (such as Category:Fields in Devon). It may be better further by subject not location, so split off eg Category:Wheat fields in Devon, which again will have to be a manual chore.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

A related topic - uploading to Commons with no categories means the community will add categories (which is good - they will probably find useful categories the bots never will), removing the {{Uncategorized-Geograph}} as they do so, for example. Good edits like that we could lose the geographic information completely on some images. Might need to think of a way to retain tracking after removal of the uncategorized template?--Nilfanion (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Nilfabot

Hello, User:NilfaBot "Nilfabot" has been putting images into Category:Kingston upon Hull.. from now on can you make it put the same images into Category:Kingston upon Hull (uncategorised) (reason - the page is getting a lot of uploads, and if it gets full the subcats don't show - and there are a lot of subcats..). Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 03:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

HotCat

Hello. Removing uncategorised seems to be a feature of HotCat. Man vyi (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Re - Kingston upon Hull

Thanks for your detailed explanation - I didn't realise about the sort to Z thing - thanks for setting me straight on that. As for the Category:Kingston upon Hull (uncategorised) - I was hoping to use it as a "files needing looking at temporary place".. As for this image File:Pantomime 1803.jpg the reason I put it in the 'uncategorised' category is that I've been trying to find out what exactly the connection with Kingston upon Hull is and can't - I assume it's not there by mistake..

I accept that some images could be in the top category - eg iconic ones, large scale etc - but I would hope that most fit well into subcats.

Is there a reason why Nilfabot wont be doing any more? Using search I found easily a few which would fit into the "Hull" category eg File:Tidal Barrier, River Hull, Kingston upon Hull - geograph.org.uk - 660413.jpg File:Kingston Square, Hull - geograph.org.uk - 624847.jpg File:Kingston Square, Hull. - geograph.org.uk - 1136378.jpg - I expect (estimate) that there are dozens or hundreds more... Is another bot going to catch these? (Searching for "Kingston upon Hull" turns up many uncategorised (more than 50%) images, and I've already categorised at least 100 - so there must be many..) I was assuming that Nilfabot would be adding this to the Hull cat at some point.. Sf5xeplus (talk) 20:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again for your reply - that's everything from me for now . Sf5xeplus (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Maps again

Hi again, can you take a look at File:North Yorkshire UK parish map (blank).svg and see if there is a problem with downloading the link as I did for the East Riding of Yorkshire map. Once downloaded it does not appear to be recognised to allow viewing. Editing the colour and attempting to upload gives a "File extension does not match MIME type." error. May be there is some truncation of the downloaded file or corruption in it. Keith D (talk) 21:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be downloading 4,408 KB now and still not opening, previously 2,064 KB, I have tried a couple of times but sill no joy. Keith D (talk) 00:51, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to get back to you. I re-downloaded the map earlier this evening and it worked correctly. It must be some problem with the download when I tried it yesterday, could be the larger size of that image that was causing the problem. Keith D (talk) 00:21, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Your bot

Just to let you know, your bot has categorised hundreds of files from Geograph relating to Tonbridge in Kent to Dublin in Ireland for some reason. Any chance you could get it to reverse the changes? It has flooded out Dublin with erroneous images. many thanks. Ardfern (talk) 23:12, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually

One done here. Some annot/cats - will do the other one soon. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Bodmin Moor Map

Hello Nilfanion. I'm a big fan of your maps and work. I am also working on a lot of Bodmin Moor monuments at the moment and would find it really useful to have a map of Bodmin Moor similar to your Dartmoor one. I'm fiddling around trying to make one, but thought I'd ask the assistance of an professional cartographer in this regard. Would be really pleased if you could produce one to provide really excellent coverage of Bodmin Moor's features. Thanks! Paul Bedson (talk) 22:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC) H

Commons:Press releases/10M

Hi. Could you start to write the Wikimedia Commons story? It's your idea ;) I think that others will join. 9,96x,xxx... Commons:Press releases/The Tale of Wikimedia Commons with these_(and_mixed)_illustrations? Best regards. Przykuta → [edit] 11:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

About PR in chapters - look here. First Picture of the day: File:Pavo cristatus head001xx.jpg - 27kb - yeah :)... hmm, well composition. Przykuta → [edit] 10:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

ok, but my en is rather week. I will to try to add a structure of the article. Przykuta → [edit] 11:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Mapping York

Hi. If you can look at User talk:Dr. Blofeld on en.wikipedia, you'll see that I wasn't very happy with the new location map on the York article there. He pointed me at your Talk page here. I'm not exactly complaining about the use of the map of the City of York unitary authority, but York itself is by no means contiguous with the UA. Would it be possible to position some sort of indication of where the approx centre of York is on the map, perhaps by using the Coordinates in the infobox, so that people won't think that the whole red area is "York", as against the smaller area that actually is York (much of the rest is farmland, villages, etc.). Hope this is intelligible. Please reply to my Wikipedia Talk page - I do have a presence on Commons, but I only check in here intermittently. Best. --GuillaumeTell (talk) 23:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Albert Hoyt Taylor.jpg

Hi,

You have taken out the Duplicate template on this image, saying it is not an exact duplicate and that the other image is a derivative. I fact, if you look closely, both are the same image and the Efcuse user has wrongly put File:Albert Hoyt Taylor levels.jpg as a derivative. Nothing has been added to the original image File:Albert Hoyt Taylor.jpg in that file, it is only an enhance contrast image that should have been loaded as a new version in the original file. I assume that Efcuse did not know about uploading a new version and that is why he created a new image file.

What do you suggest to eliminate one of the redondant image ?

Pierre cb (talk) 12:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

OK. Pierre cb (talk) 21:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

John Rylands Library

Hello, Is there a good reason why in Commons there is Category:The John Rylands Library which differs from the Wikipedia usage?--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 15:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:3c31443v.jpg

You forgot to close this deletion request --Sreejith K (talk) 11:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Question

What is a DR?--Craigboy (talk) 02:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, I will make the deletion request.--Craigboy (talk) 01:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Tatra KT4D Szczecin.JPG

Congrats for this great edit! This one you deleted is linked in several wikis and had the correct multi-language description. Now you should recreate this description! Sandmann4u (talk) 06:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Viterbo - santa Maria Nuova 0877.JPG

Please, this in uncorrect name. The name of the church is really San Silvestro (Saint Sylvester), see it:Chiesa di San Silvestro (Viterbo) or http://viterbo.artecitta.it/scheda.php?PHPSESSID=%3C?php%20echo%20$sid;?%3E&idOpera=8&Audio=off. Thanks--Threecharlie (talk) 11:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Re-please: can you correct your error?--Threecharlie (talk) 23:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Rail operator route maps: Chiltern Railways

Hi, re your map File:Chiltern Railways route map 2010.svg - this is now out of date as of four days ago. On 22 May 2011, Chiltern Railways gained the Oxford to Bicester Line from First Great Western. It's physically separate from the other Chiltern Railways lines, because at present there is a clear gap at Bicester. Is there any chance that you could add the new route?

Also, I see that the Paddington-South Ruislip line is included, which has only one train a day, in one direction only (11:36 from Padd, arr. High Wycombe 12:19) - on that basis, the Banbury-Oxford line should also be included, since Chiltern run one train per day in both directions along that route (23:38 from Leamington Spa, arr. Oxford 00:22; 00:38 from Oxford, arr. Banbury 01:10). --Redrose64 (talk) 21:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi, I was wondering whether you can help me explain to a user about the need for retaining redirects, especially for files that have been here a long time (there are also side issues about mis-using the {{badname}} template to try and get rid of redirects resulting from file moves (eg [1][2]), and the mis-use of file mover privileges to make file moves that wouldn't be approved under current file renaming policy(eg [3]). Maybe a third opinion would help. Thanks :-) --Tony Wills (talk) 11:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at those but there were two that actually did need deletion, caused by the user renaming the file, then renaming it again soon afterward due to a small mistake.

Originally File:Holden LH Torana 1974-1976 02.jpg was renamed to:

File:1974–1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 02.jpg then to:

File:1974-1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 02.jpg (dash changed to a hyphen)

I redirected the original to the final name, so the intermediate filename,

File:1974–1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 02.jpg

which was only there momentarily, can be deleted. Similarly :

File:Holden LH Torana 1974-1976 01.jpg was renamed to

File:1974–1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 01.jpg then to

File:1974-1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 01.jpg so now

File:1974–1976 Holden Torana (LH) SLR sedan (2008-09-02) 01.jpg

can be deleted. Does that make sense? --Tony Wills (talk) 08:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Civil parishes

Hi Nilfanion. I've added a note at User:Keith D about maps of civil parish boundaries which may help solve your paper chase with the 1:25,000 maps. Skinsmoke (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Browser support for SVGs

Hi, I notice that you've occasionally advised users that Firefox can be used to display a SVG. This is true: but it might be worth mentioning that the current versions of Google Chrome, Safari and Opera can also do this (Internet Exploder 7 can't, however). I don't know where this advice might best be posted for general information - perhaps you know where to put it? --Redrose64 (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

[:File:Lemonshark no watermark.jpg]

Hello Nilfanion, I was just cleaning up this duplicate when you deleted it. I was busy to replace the duplicate with the no watermark version on all pages. Please correct me if I am wrong, but you deleted the version without watermark as duplicate. So you choose the wrong one to delete. Please take a look and correct. Groetjes --Neozoon (talk) 21:30, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Obec_Klenov_erb_sken.jpg

Hi, Why added

All images in this gallery could be recreated using vector graphics as an SVG file. This has several advantages; see Commons:Media for cleanup for more information. If an SVG form of this image is already available, please upload it. After uploading an SVG, replace this template with {{vector version available|new image name.svg}}.

to the Klenov erb sken.jpg? I have a vector version, (File:Coa_Slovakia_Town_Kelembér.svg) that's very similar. Not enough good? Madboy74 (talk) 05:30, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Tux images

Hey. Okay, but {{vector version available}} won't mark them as waiting for deletion. These files is exactly the same. Only different is format (rastor or vector) or dimensions. It's nonsense to have so many exactly the same Tuxes. So how can I mark them for deletion? Using {{speedydelete}}? I think {{duplicate}} pass much better --PL Przemek ^DYSKUSJA 06:32, 16 July 2011 (UTC).

Geograph updates

Hi Nilfanion, you probably want to take a look at Commons talk:Batch uploading/Geograph. Multichill (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

NASA shuttle Atlantis STS-135 final landing.jpg

Hallo Nilfanion, I'm astonished by your actions with the file STS-135 Space Shuttle Atlantis makes its final landing 07.jpg. Why did you delete the less compressed better one? I had marked the correct version to delete. Can i hear the reasons? Thanks --Ras67 (talk) 20:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The only real reason for favouring one over the other to my mind is that the kept version has a derivative work on Commons (File:NASA shuttle Atlantis STS-135 final landing cropped.jpg). I didn't actually notice the difference in filesize when I pushed the delete button, merely that the two files look all-but-identical.

I've re-reviewed this after your comment, and yes the two files are slightly different in size (152KB vs 139KB), but the bigger filesize doesn't automatically imply better quality. Looking at both images at 100% they have similar levels of noise and JPG artifacts. If I had to choose between them, I'd probably go for the kept version as I think the runway lights look marginally superior (for instance, the light at extreme left is cleaner and has less noise around it).

If you want, I can restore the deleted version but I would not then speedily delete the other - it would have to go to a full deletion request. After all the two files aren't exact duplicates, and there are minor differences which it would be up to community to decide which is better.--Nilfanion (talk) 08:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Wow, thank you for your effort. I will upload the better version upon the existing file. …the bigger filesize doesn't automatically imply better quality. Of course, but in this case the larger variant is slightly better, due to absent of color subsampling. You can see it on the right side the red stripe. In direct comparison the stripe is a little clearer without color subsampling, Well that's a small thing. Kind regards --Ras67 (talk) 12:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Files tagged as duplicates

Hi Nilfanion,

I have changed the licence of the new files. So, you can speedied the old one. Thanks for your help and best regards.

Jean-Pol GRANDMONT (talk) 16:20, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

File_talk:PavillionLake.JPG - related files

Hi Nilfanion, can you tell be how you did find the first (now deleted) file at File_talk:PavillionLake.JPG? I did also search but did not find it. And what about the "surviving" file?

I would be happy to have a chat with you in IRC - I am often there. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:43, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I found the source there by a regular Google search for ziya tong doug hamilton. I could not find that exact photo, but it was clearly taken during the production of TV show by one of the people involved with the show - making it extremely unlikely to be free. Given the files resolution it might be a screenshot from the TV episode.

I found the Commons file via your duplicate tagging of a related image, and once I got curious started digging...

As for File:PavillionLake.JPG - this may be of interest [4].. --Nilfanion (talk) 08:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Wow - thanks. I have tagged the file now. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Blaise Pascal.PNG

Hello Nilfanion, Would you remove the {{fact}} template on that file, now renamed and with an more accurate description (and maybe close the DR)? Regards, --Myrabella (talk) 07:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :-) --Myrabella (talk) 13:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

cosmopolitan

WARNING: Queeg (talk) is a user who is overly fond of his dict server.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Cosmopolitan \Cos`mo*pol"i*tan\ (-p?l"?-tan), Cosmopolite
  \Cos*mop"o*lite\ (k?z-m?p"?-l?t), n. [Gr. kosmopoli`ths; ko`smos
     the world + poli`ths citizen, po`lis city: cf. F.
     cosmopolitain, cosmopolite.]
     One who has no fixed residence, or who is at home in every
     place; a citizen of the world.
     [1913 Webster] Cosmopolitan

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Cosmopolitan \Cos`mo*pol"i*tan\, Cosmopolite \Cos*mop"o*lite\,
     a.
     1. Having no fixed residence; at home in any place; free from
        local attachments or prejudices; not provincial; liberal.
        [1913 Webster]
  
              In other countries taste is perphaps too exclusively
              national, in Germany it is certainly too
              cosmopolite.                          --Sir W.
                                                    Hamilton.
        [1913 Webster]
  
     2. Common everywhere; widely spread; found in all parts of
        the world.
        [1913 Webster]
  
              The Cheiroptera are cosmopolitan.     --R. Owen.
        [1913 Webster]

From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

  cosmopolitan
      adj 1: growing or occurring in many parts of the world; "a
             cosmopolitan herb"; "cosmopolitan in distribution" [syn:
             {cosmopolitan}, {widely distributed}] [ant: {endemic}]
      2: composed of people from or at home in many parts of the
         world; especially not provincial in attitudes or interests;
         "his cosmopolitan benevolence impartially extended to all
         races and to all creeds"- T.B. Macaulay; "the ancient and
         cosmopolitan societies of Syria and Egypt"; "that queer,
         cosmopolitan, rather sinister crowd found around the
         Marseilles docks" [ant: {provincial}]
      3: of worldwide scope or applicability; "an issue of
         cosmopolitan import"; "the shrewdest political and ecumenical
         comment of our time"- Christopher Morley; "universal
         experience" [syn: {cosmopolitan}, {ecumenical},
         {oecumenical}, {general}, {universal}, {worldwide}, {world-
         wide}]
      n 1: a sophisticated person who has travelled in many countries
           [syn: {cosmopolitan}, {cosmopolite}]

My question. Will you consider to be more cosmopolitan while you are here? I am obviously not a "good wikipedian" because of my love of my enormous dict server and avoidance of wiktionary, please forgive of this short-coming. -- Queeg (talk) 09:24, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

My interests are primarily focused on one nation (as is true for many of course), in that sense I'm not going to be cosmopolitan. For instance, there is a categorisation nightmare at the moment (1.1M uncategorized files in Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project needing categories - 10% of all files on Commons), chipping away at that takes a lot of time and effort.

Commons categories are poor, and I'd love to see better support for languages as oppposed to just using English for everything by default. Following en.wikipedia without thinking here is not appropriate, and some of our own internal schemes are also a bit silly: Stripping prefixes off ship names makes sense (its language dependent), but why add a suffix of (ship, <date>) when the only thing of that topic name is one ship? Category:Voyager of the Seas (ship, 1999), is overly precise.

If your point relates to something specific, if you say what's that about I can discuss that further.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Nah, I was assuming things from reading briefly of the difference of opinions on that other talk page. I was frustrated several days ago with the T-38 Talon problem. Earlier than that, I saw that a German bot had suggested a category move of the name of a museum that is located in the Netherlands (I have been viewing many many videos from pre-1980 Netherlands lately, as they are here). The suggestion was to move the category from its real name into a category of its translated name. To me, that is just plain stupid. That it was a German bot that "made the suggestion" is perplexing to me but changing the "what we want" and the message of the template is a very simple software edit and that fact is annoying to me. None of this has anything to do with you that I know of, and I understand this. The other part of the stupid in this is that English wikipedia is using a translated name instead of its real name -- for the museum. Certainly the translation should appear in the article, but what if that article inspires a journey to the museum? What a pain to translate it back.

Unless things have changed, when taking foreign language courses in United States secondary education institutions, students are often given a translation of their names in the language that is being studied. Do you think that the tendency of English Wikipedia to translate proper nouns is related to this "high school-esque" assignment?

Also, did you laugh at all while reading my definition ;)

And one more thing, did you know that your talk page has been categorized into Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project needing categories? -- Queeg (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I do dislike the tendency to translate non-English to terms to English, simply because they are not English. One example here on Commons is one of our most unpopular policies: Commons:Freedom of Panorama. "Freedom of panorama" is a literal translation of panoramafreiheit. Panoramafreiheit is a well understood legal concept in German-language countries. The English translation was effectively made up when we first realised it was an issue. en.wikipedia actually realises this and uses the proper German phrase for its article.

The phrase "freedom of panorama" is starting to be used in mainstream works now (example), but I wonder if the origin of the phrase is the Wikimedia translation. That sounds like an research project for someone with an interest in etymology :)

With regards to the naming of things, we do use the English name in the absence of a better translation system, as there needs to be some logic somewhere and English is the de facto Commons language. But that should be "what the subject is called in English" not "the English translation of the subject's name", and there is an important distinction between the two: One example is Category:Kirche am Steinhof.

And yes the quote was interesting (if not laugh out loud amusing) :)--Nilfanion (talk) 12:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Your bot has taken credit for some nice work -- recently 13 May 2011.

-- Queeg (talk) 13:36, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Niabot is a not a bot account but a user's primary account, and its not me. My bot is User:NilfaBot...--Nilfanion (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, you should tell me to what level I have perhaps offended you. The best I can glean from this experience is that the moment I completed the manual emptying of a category filled with 94 videos (and watching perhaps 75-80 of them) was euphoric. Kind of like a two drink drunk -- when you can drive a car on public roads with almost the same degree of safety as when completely sober, but there is a tendency to drive a little faster.

Typing about my overly large dict server is a great example of this. It isn't, actually, overly large. It only has a few dictionaries installed and is probably much smaller than what a distribution provides ;}

Best case scenario, a review the word "cosmopolitan" was initiated for no obvious reason.

Worst case, I think would be that I solely needed a review of the word and used your talk page to do this.

So, it is your call as to what level of offended that you have been and of how large my apology should be.

I really liked the video -- which is the seed at the root of this whole ordeal, fertilized by euphoria and word gaming which -- I laughed out loud for.

I am trying to formulate a sentence which would be about the level of irony making up for the lack of envy but I am unable to put words around this properly.

Sorry. -- Queeg (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Quality Image Promotion

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File:44 parking inv.png

Hello, you have undone my edit, saying that the images are not exact. Can you explain why they are not exact matching ? Thanks. Nodulation (talk) 19:13, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Nodulation, I'll no longer use the duplicate tag, it is an outrageous farce. Let us degenerate Commons into a garbage dump. -- πϵρήλιο ℗ 05:27, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Please read Commons:Deletion policy#Duplicates (and for that matter Commons:File types). A PNG is different to a GIF because of the different file formats, and as PNG is generally preferred to GIF if anything should be deleted its the GIF. If there's some particular reason for preferring the GIF that should be discussed by community.

If an image is not "exactly the same" as another, it isn't eligible for speedy deletion (which is what {{duplicate}} is for). That doesn't mean it can't be deleted, but then its deletion needs discussion via a deletion request. File:Stamp of Azerbaijan 303-310.jpg is not a duplicate of either of the images mentioned - as it cannot be replaced by one of those images. The two sets of stamps are not randomly lumped together, but have a natural association - they are included together at http://www.azermarka.az/en/1995.php for instance. That in turn means the composite image might have utility. That potential value is reason enough to require a full deletion request, and therefore {{duplicate}} inappropriate.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, your opinion is strict but understandable. If in doubt you are of course on the correct side. -- πϵρήλιο ℗ 23:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

morgue

In United States, the word morgue is used to identify the room where the recently departed are taken to be identified, cause of death determined and/or temporary storage until family can be found to determine what to do next. Never having participated in the details of this process, here in the United States, this process involves a funeral home and eventually a cemetery or mausoleum.

It has become apparent to me that "the queens English" uses a different word for "Morgue" than her religious bastards versioning of it uses.

Do they have rooms like this in England and if so, what are they called?

See User talk:Foroa#Funeral homes, mortuaries, morgues and mausoleums for links and more words. -- Queeg (talk) 03:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

File:East Midlands route map 2010.svg

Hey mate, just noticed that this SVG doesn't show any lines to the north of EM services, but does to the south. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up, a odd error(!) Looks like the "other lines" path got corrupted somehow, there's clearly missing lines south of the EM network too, near Shrewsbury for instance. I'll have a look and try to fix soon.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done Luckily I had my working still available so didn't have to go back to the .shp source files. May take a while for the thumbs to refresh of course--Nilfanion (talk) 22:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Muggur-kolaburdur-1919.jpg

Yes, different colors but lower resolution and this is a worse version. Why keep it? --Jabbi (talk) 11:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Muggur-kolaburdur-1919.jpg if you want to keep abreast. --Jabbi (talk) 13:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate file deletion request

Can you delete this duplicate image for me File:Ariifaaite.jpg? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:19, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Can you delete File:Cloak of Kiwalao, 1899.jpg it's a mistake I made and it's a duplicate?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 12:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Long time Editor, first time caller

Hey.

I have been on Wiki for years and still turn to jelly when it comes to images. I'm so wary about getting citations and copyright and all that sort of thing done correctly. As you can see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Council_election,_2011) I've added a modified version of your blank ward map [which are, incidentally, superb]. I've plastered your name wherever I thought it was necessary to prove it's one of your maps which I've altered, but can you have a look to make sure I've done it right? It's one of the blank spots with me, just so worried about getting image use right!

Many thanks

Doktorbuk (talk) 06:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Aaah, what I've discovered now is that I've done this a bit wrong. You have a whole guide on how to do this properly, with svg files and uploading and whomaflip. Very complicated for a novice like me. I'll see what I can fathom out, and replace the file when I'm done. Doktorbuk (talk) 08:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Wrong filename

This is a wrong filename: File:Grenspaal met wapens van Workum en Hindeloopen op zeedijk.jpg. It is not Hindeloopen but Wonseradeel. It is better to delete this file and not to save it as a redirect. Gouwenaar (talk) 21:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done Got rid of the misleading redirect.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:54, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Gouwenaar (talk) 12:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Re:Lymington

Hi, thanks for letting me know that you reverted the addition of Category:Lymington to the Category:Towns and villages in the New Forest I had created. The thing is a bit of a mess precisely because there are three different definitions of the New Forest. FWIW, parts of Lymington parish (or more accurately "Lymington and Pennington") are within the National Park boundary of the New Forest, but the town itself isn't - so I'm not sure it was actually wrong for me to put it in the category. But as I said - it's my fault for making such as ill-defined category. The National Park is actually larger than the historic Royal boundary of the New Forest (which is still in existence and is still marked on OS maps along with the National Park boundary). Maybe I ought to scrap it and use Category:Towns and villages in the New Forest district instead? Singinglemon (talk) 21:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Cornwall map

Perfect, thanks! Nicely in use now, and all those missing hotels/inns.. 80.3.25.148 19:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

About your edit

I would like to know if you used rollback for this edit, because the edit summary is like those done automatically with rollback with some added freetext at the end of the edit summary. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Nilfanion!

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

CategorizationBot (talk) 16:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

• Image:Ward test map.svg was uncategorized on 21 October 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 16:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Stalking

Hi, I do not appreciate your consistent stalking. I volunteer here, and do not expect to be harassed over such petty issues. I will not be hanging around if I am going to constantly hassled by you, so please consider that your actions are making what should be a stress-free project quite the contrary. These are my images and I would like to think that I have a little bit of control over how I would like them named. This is not Wikipedia, where no one owns the work because it is collaborative. So please reconsider what you are doing. OSX (talk • contributions) 09:44, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Green process button disappeared

Hi Nilfanion, seems the green "process" button has disappeared from the duplicate template, see for example File:Grand SeikoSBGW005 9S54-0030 01s3.jpg. Any idea? --Túrelio (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

London maps

Absolutely wonderful, great job!! Can you help me create the map templates on wikipedia?80.3.25.148 12:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Galleries

Yep - nicely constructed gallery IMO. Does exactly what it should do - lays out good images as a sample at least of what we have to offer. I guess the trouble is that it is a lot of work for an understaffed project maybe? Not got around to reading the text yet :) Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

South Hams

I've left a reply on my talk page. Please get back to me. Feel free to delete this notification from your page once you've seen it. Skinsmoke (talk) 00:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Category:Village greens in Chelmsford

Hi Nilfanion. The only problem with that move is that the only image in the category isn't in Chelmsford, though it is in the Borough of Chelmsford. Skinsmoke (talk) 02:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Well "Village greens in Chelmsford" literally means "Village greens" in "Chelmsford" not "Village greens" in "Chelmsford (borough)". If the content is actually for the borough, it should be moved to the appropriately named category (via use of a temp cat redirect, Cat-a-Lot, whatever). In such cases, its probably easier to move everything and work out what to move back again at a later date.

The fact the content is in the wrongly named category doesn't mean it should stay there.

As for the Manchester ones same applies - if its about "Manchester", call it "Manchester". If its about the City (is a real difference at all - WP doesn't make that distinction?), call it "City of Manchester". If content about the City of Manchester is in the category for Manchester - move it out.--Nilfanion (talk) 11:27, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

* Frohe Weihnacht und einen guten Start ins neue Jahr
* Prettige Kerstdagen en een gelukkig nieuw jaar
* Merry Christmas and a happy New Year
from --Neozoon (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Please explain

You say that the non-commercial restriction is irrelevant in this and a related edit. This is in direct contradiction with Commons:Licensing which says "Wikimedia Commons accepts only free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, anytime, for any purpose". Those images cannot be used for "anyone, anytime, for any purpose" as they have not been explicitly released into the public domain and the National Library of Ireland doesn't allow commerical use without permission. In addition as I attempted to explain the "No known copyright restrictions [?]" on Flickr links directly to this which explains that "The Library's images within The Commons have no known copyright restrictions; this means that the National Library of Ireland is not aware of any current copyright restrictions on the photographs, usually because the Library owns the copyright or the term of copyright has expired", then further details the prohibition on commercial use. 109.158.115.63 11:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

To quote the conditions on Flickr:

"...The Library's images within The Commons have no known copyright restrictions; this means that the National Library of Ireland is not aware of any current copyright restrictions on the photographs, usually because the Library owns the copyright or the term of copyright has expired.

Images in our Commons photostream are available for research for a non-commercial purpose or private study...".

The important phrase there is "have no known copyright restrictions". If an image has no copyright restrictions, then it is in the public domain. If the work is in the public domain, you cannot restrict it to NC use only, as the copyright doesn't exist to allow such a restriction. Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag describes a similar situation where institutions attempt to enclose the Public Domain, there its by asserting that they have copyright over it (a much stronger claim).

It is unlikely that the Library owns the copyright to these specific images. If you beleive that is the case, you can file a normal deletion request, but speedy will be inappropriate.

The Library's use of no known copyright restrictions is fully explained by clicking on the phrase in question, which is a direct link to the Library's explanation of exactly what is meant by that phrase. I do not see how the assertion can be made that they are public domain when the library also say "usually because the Library owns the copyright", but I will create normal deletion requests for the infringing images. 109.158.115.63 11:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

The "no known copyright restrictions" I quote above comes from their explanation not the simple phrase on Flickr. The full explanation states: "usually because the Library owns the copyright or the term of copyright has expired". That does not mean that usually "Library owns the copyright", but sometimes "the term of copyright has expired". It means either "library owns copyright" or "the term of copyright has expired", but it may be something else. Its unlikely that the library owns the copyright to these images as libraries do not normally take photographs after all.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if this is any help but some months ago (5 July 2011) I uploaded a photo belonging to the National Library of Scotland labelled "no known copyright restrictions" and then later noticed that commercial use was forbidden. I took it down and wrote to the Library and pointed this out. It threw them into some confusion. After some weeks they replied again suggesting (because it was their intent that such images should be available through Flickr and Wiki Commons) I just leave the image there (it looks as if Zoofari re-uploaded it) and we would all see what happened next! This I have done. This is the image concerned. Eddaido (talk) 07:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Offduty_Israeli_soldier.jpg

File:Offduty_Israeli_soldier.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

217.132.154.171 23:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Civil parishes in Kent

Hi! I'm working on articles about England in Spanish Wikipedia. When you have a spare time, could you upload a pictures of the civil parishes in Kent by district? Regards, thank you very much. Renly (talk) 10:28, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll have a go at it sometime, but may take a while.

That said, it may be more appropriate to for you to just use the county map File:Kent UK parish map (blank).svg - as the location of eg Goudhurst in Kent is probably more relevant to a Wikipedia article than its location in its district.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I've got these done now, I'll be uploading soon.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Getting File:Monmouthshire UK location map.svg to appear in infobox castle

Can I ask for some help with getting a map to appear in infobox castle? I believe you uploaded File:Monmouthshire UK location map.svg which appears on en:Monmouth. I am trying to get the same map onto en:Monmouth Castle (I'm playing with it at en:User:Rodw/Sandbox/Monmouth Castle) but it doesn't seem to appear. The same issue has been identified on en:Raglan Castle so the Wales map has been used. The syntax is the same as on en:Dunster Castle where the Somerset map appears - so I'm having real problems trying to work out what the issue is. Any help appreciated.Rodw (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Peak District map

Hi, sorry, this is a complaint. I love maps and I think you do too. My complaint is that as a foreigner I find the map in the infobox on the Peak District article to be completely meaningless except it tells me the shape of the National Park. Is it possible to add any major towns or cities that are by the Park and give some idea of the locality (beyond its placing in the middle of England)? Yes I guess the blue marks may be motorways and I know I can go to Google Maps and start guessing but it would be much nicer to just see the location (literally) in the infobox. Can I help anyhow?

Now I've been to Google Maps and tried to work it out and I am no further ahead but if (say) Buxton, Leek and Matlock are within the range of your map could they be marked there? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 07:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

OK, this stems from the map being used for a purpose that its not designed for. The point of the Peak District map is to be used as a blank background map, in conjunction with w:Template:Location map, to illustrate locations within the Peak District. See how File:Lake District National Park UK location map.svg is used in w:Scafell Pike.

Its not really designed to illustrate the Peak District itself, as you point out, all it really tells you is its general location and shape. However, it is the only map in Category:Peak District that shows the whole thing, which is why the editors there chose to use it.

Labels could be added through careful use of w:Template:Geobox's features. eg File:Greater Fatra (SVK) - location map.svg and File:Slovakia demis.png are overlain at w:Template:Geobox/sample. Alternatively, labels could be added to a derivative map. That would ideally be done as an SVG using Inkscape or similar software. I may get round to doing that eventually with this map, but it isn't likely to be a personal priority (I hate the labelling process!).--Nilfanion (talk) 21:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Glasgow

I've tweaked your Glasgow map to reflect the completion of the M80 and M74 motorways, and accompanying de-prioritization of the old A80 and A74 routes. Hope I've managed to get everything all right!

Can I just say, what fantastic resources you've been creating -- really stunning. Thank you! Jheald (talk) 17:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

B-G toor

Hum - could be a real tor - need to think. Greator Rocks has that sort of slab side as does Leigh Tor iirc. Thinking... Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:22, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Deleting duplicates

Hello,

Thanks for your comments. I have a bug with the "process duplicate" button, and I can't solve it. Can you help me ? Thanks ! --M0tty (talk) 20:11, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Flag deletion discussion

Hi there. This is just to notify you that File:Austr.Aborig.png has been nominated for deletion. As you were involved in an earlier deletion discussion over the same design, I would appreciate your insight on the same concerns. The discussion is at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Austr.Aborig.png. Osiris (temp) (talk) 04:43, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Uploading regional maps

How did you go about uploading the North East/North West 2011 ward maps? I'd put the timing-out problem I have when uploading via DerivativeFX down to their large filesize, but looking at your blank maps they're the same. I've only just figured out how to work DerivativeFX, so that might be where I'm going wrong, but it generally seems to work until I go to upload, and then I get redirected back to the Commons front page with a message at the top telling me it couldn't be uploaded/timed-out and that I should sign-out and back in again. Did you ever get this? Any help would be much appreciated. HeadlightMorning (talk) 14:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Ignore that - managed to get them uploaded: North East and North West. Delighted you've done these.HeadlightMorning (talk) 17:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Southwest Cornwall UK location map.svg

Hi, can you update this to show the B3306 road which connects St Ives to St Just and joins the A30 road?80.3.25.148 13:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

The maps do not show B-roads, as that would be info overload (there's ~20 B roads in that area), and just including the one would be inappropriate. The absence of a good colour for B-roads is a hindrance too..--Nilfanion (talk) 12:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Notice

Hi Nilfanion. An image you deleted yesterday as a result of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Austr.Aborig.png has been re-uploaded at File:Black-red-flag-yellow-circle.svg. Started another discussion here. Osiris (temp) (talk) 10:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Aboriginal flag > File:Black-red-flag-yellow-circle.svg

Please do not delete my files. It's not the Aboriginal flag and it's not used as such or in such context. It's a trivial work, made in Poland, by a citizen of Poland (me), depicting a simple banner with a "sun disc". I actually and accidently intend to use it on my Commons user page. This design might be copyrighted somewhere (Australia...), but it's legal status as indicated with a PD template is an undisputed fact. It's in PD in my country and in US, so it goes along Commons guidelines (free in the country of origin and US). Moreover, just to make possible re-users aware of the fact that it might by (c) under some jurisdictions, I put some warning templates into it. If you still think that this file is not PD, please start del. req. and justify why you think it is not an image of simple geometry is ineligible for copyright in Poland and US and why you think it's the Aboriginal flag. Thank you.

Also, I would propose to be a little bit more flexible. As, for example, we are with the "sweat of the brow" doctrine, which (apparently) dissallow to put on Commons faithful 2D reproduction of PD materials, which were created in UK. This example was given while discussing deletion of the Aboriginal flag, along with the proposal to put warning templates into the file description. Anyway, this is slightly off topic, because we are not talking about the Aboriginal flag anymore. Or, do you really think, that because of one (c) file in Australia, all more or less similar depictions should be banned from Commons, because its close enough to the original to be useful to illustrate the "Aboriginal Flag" ? Because according to this interpretation any file that one puts into this article, will be automatically "close enough" and will "illustrate". Even black and white description. And why I'm not starting undel. procedure is, because clearly one (precisely speaking: you) person imposed his interpretation on all participants of del. req. discussion, while we were far from reaching a concordant point of view. So, why to bother and try to undo this? Apparently you know better and your decision is more important. Compare it with a possible scenario, in which I (as a Commons admin) decide to leave the file, instead of deleting it ;) In my humble opinion, such issues, which are certainly not trivial, shouldn't be decided single-handed (as the "sweat of the brow" was not). Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to use wheels without paying the royalties to the guy who patented it in Australia ;) Masur (talk) 09:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

• already happened and been closed as delete. If you have an objection to that, or my closure of it, - you see. This is excactly what I meant writing: one (precisely speaking: you) person imposed his interpretation on all participants of del. req. discussion, while we were far from reaching a concordant point of view. So, why to bother and try to undo this? Apparently you know better and your decision is more important. . Also, you interpret: It only has value on your user page as a representation of the Aboriginal Flag , without even allowing different point of view. You know better, that such and such file is really something else, and what were my intentions. I do completely agree with This particular case is a good example of why that may be wrong, but that will require a change of broad policy, which is not obtained on a single file, and that's why I feel kind of dissapointed, that while knowing it, you still (in my view) force your own interpretation, which certainly was not shared by all or a vast majority of people taking part in the discussion. Also, clearly for me, you as a Commons admin are "better" than I as a Commons admin :) Really, I feel this way. Your decision is "more" than mine. And now I am required to "apply" for everything. Masur (talk) 10:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Regarding to your last message. So when one knows that a simple geometric shape is not a simple geometric shape made in Poland by a Pole, but the Aboriginal Flag made in Poland by a nasty Pole, who wants to circumvent rules? The file was not named or described to reveal that it has any connections with the Ab. flag, nor it was used in such context. Hey - what about these patented wheels? Or sticks as pet toys (these were also patented)? See - again, contrary to (in my opinion) common sense, "lesser evil" attitude and "assume a good faith", you decided to by as strict as possible (literally zero flexibility); reaching (again in my opinion; need to stress it over and over) the unreasonable level of copyright safety. And this is, simply sad. Masur (talk) 10:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Come on! You were clearly using it as the Aboriginal flag. You used your original upload to represent the Aboriginal flag in two articles on plwiki. When consensus decided to delete the image because it was copyrighted, you then immediately re-uploaded it and added it to your userpage to make a point about copyright policies. It's quite obvious what it was intended to be. Osiris (temp) (talk) 10:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Clearly you both are talking about the previous file, not this one (though I forgot about the description in the svg code itself - may I correct it? ;) ). I know, unreasonable and silly, huh? Think, how do I feel about your single-handed decision and your own interpretation :) Masur (talk) 10:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Its the same file. If File:Example.jpg is deleted by a deletion request, I can't reupload an identical file at File:This is not Example.jpg.jpg and say its a "different" file - so should be deleted. It may be at a different location, but its still the same image and consensus on Commons has already established its unsuitable. In this case File:Black and red flag with yellow disc.svg and File:Black-red-flag-yellow-circle.svg are identical files, created by the same person. They are the same image, and as the first was deleted via a DR and the second is an identical copy - its eligible for speedy deletion as a copy of content deemed ineligible for Commons by a discussion.

BTW, I'm of the opinion that the SVG isn't strictly your own work (I can't prove that of course). It shares almost all of its coding with the file by ZScout370 on en - differing only in the SVG comment (modified to suit your POV) and a subtle change of colours (that doesn't change its appearance). If it was independently derived without reference to the Aboriginal flag why would the code be all but identical to en.wp's image?--Nilfanion (talk) 11:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

New extension category Ships by name

As we are discussing the matter and I experienced a new phenomenon: ships built at the same yard in the same year. (Solved it by adding the yard number. But of course this had te be discussed too.) I am preparing an extension of the on-going discussion about ships by name. See the first parts of User:Stunteltje/Sandbox/Ships, not finished at all, just a start. You'll find part your comments and please comment there between the lines if you like. I intend to present my suggesions for naming in the on-going discussion. I'll ask a few other people too to react there. What do you think? --Stunteltje (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Photo Thanks

	Best Coincidental Photo Ever
	Your photo happens to contain the gravestones of four of my family members - while I'm sure that wasn't your intent, thank you so much for taking the photo and posting it to Wikimedia! Alysania (talk) 20:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Glad you liked it :)--Nilfanion (talk) 23:48, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion ships

As I already outlined I expected to continue the full discussion on the discussion page around the 20.000th ship by name. Unfortunately someone opened the discussion at the Village pump. So I copied the first part of the discussion there and mentioned that I have to go out now, but want to discuss further on the discussion page. I also intended to copy our other discussions of my user pages, but I don't have time left for that. Up to you or I'll wait for the moment we discuss further on the discussion page. --Stunteltje (talk) 07:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

OpenStreetMap

You are aware of OpenStreetMap? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:58, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of OSM. Question - is why are you asking me about it? I haven't made use of OSM data for my maps, as the OS data (especially Boundary-Line) is more suitable for the map I've produced for Commons. In fact, I suspect the British admin-boundary data within OSM is derived from Boundary-Line in any case(!) Familiarising myself with OSM should help with Ireland though.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Addtional Scottish council maps

HI

I notice that great work you did at creating this pic:

and I was wondering if you could create other examples for the other Scottish council elections:

• Scottish_local_elections,_1999
• Scottish_local_elections,_2003
• Scottish_local_elections,_2007

Its a real battle trying to get more older election page up-to a proper standard which is shame --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I didn't actually produce the map showing the 2012 results (that was User:Spiritofsussex), but he used my blank map (File:Scottish council areas 2011.svg) to create it. You should be able to use the same blank (along with the results), to produce maps for 1999-2007 elections - there are instructions at w:User:Nilfanion/Elections. Let me know if you need further advice.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Railway maps

Hi mate.

I was wondering if you could do me a new map along the lines of File:First Great Western route map 2010.svg. It needs to cover the area is bounded by Gloucester, Bristol, Bath/Freshford, Weston-super-Mare, Taunton and the Severn Estuary; it includes the branch line to Severn Beach. There's a version on page 4 of [5]. I don't need the stations highlighted, just the lines. I guess in black. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

That should be straightforward enough, as it looks to be quite a small area of the network. I'll revisit the TOC maps sometime too - I realise I left that half-done...--Nilfanion (talk) 21:39, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, need a new one for Greater Bristol Metro. It needs the following bits highlighted (Bristol blue maybe? You decide).

Bristol to Exeter Line from Bristol to the south end of the WSM branch.

GWML from Bristol to Bath Spa

Cross Country route from Bristol to Cam & Dursley

Thornbury branch line

Portishead line

Severn beach Line

South Wales main Line between Westerleigh jct and Pilning

Henbury Loop Line

You can see a diagrammatic map at [6]. If it were possible to highlight the stations, that would be good too, let me know and I'll say how they need to be highlighted, because the linked map is wrong about them. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Photo usage

Hi, I've been working on a small game built around animal quizzes and I wanted to let you know I've used one of your pictures.

I found your picture here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cow_on_Pupers.jpg

And I attributed the picture like this: Nilfanion with this link: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nilfanion and also added a link to the license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en

I hope you're happy with it, please let me know if this is not the case. You can find the game here: http://apps.facebook.com/animalalbum Or through here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/AnimalAlbum/156339584490672

Kind regards, Garfunkel Jansen (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for taking the picture and making it available.

Yes, that sounds fine, thank you for letting me know (and glad you find it useful).--Nilfanion (talk) 23:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Permission to use your image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg

Hi Nilfanion,

I am writing from Dorling Kindersley, a London based book publishing house.

We are currently researching a book called, “Where On Earth” and some of it’s pages will be dedicated to cyclones. To illustrate the text on cyclones we would like to use this particular image in our book from your collection:-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg

We were wondering if you might give us your contact details so we can talk over it via email.

We would be happy to answer any queries you might have regarding this publication.

Many thanks, in advance for your help.

Ashwin Raju Adimari

ashwin.adimari@dk.com

Assistant Picture Researcher

Dorling Kindersley India Pvt. Ltd

3rd Floor, Mindmill Corporate Tower,

Plot No. 24A, Sector 16A Film City,

Noida - 201 301 (U.P.), India

Tel: +91 120 4689 600

I'm happy for you to use the image in the book, and I'm flexible with the attribution. If you want to discuss further by email, suggest you use the "E-mail this user" link on this page, or contact me at: my username at gmail.com --Nilfanion (talk) 23:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Maps

Hi, Nilfanion.

I noticed that you recently created File:United Kingdom relief location map.png, and I was wondering if you would be able to talk me through the steps of how you did it. I've been fascinated with maps and atlases for since childhood, and I've had a go at making maps myself, such as File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, File:Matthewedwards.svg, and File:Topographical map of the Antipodes Islands in English.svg. To make those I used NASA Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM3 v 2.1) edited with 3DEM from Visualization Software LLC, and GRASS GIS, and the instructions at Topographic vector mapping tutorial on Wikipedia.

However, GRASS is rather complicated and although I've managed to draw those I still haven't really got the hang of the software, and I can't for the life figure out how to add bathymetric information. I saw that your UK map had it and I've also read User:Nilfanion/Maps and glanced through Category:Maps by Nilfanion, and like I said, if it isn't too much trouble I was hoping you might explain the steps as to how you create your maps so I may have a go myself and hopefully use that method to producing maps with NASA shapefiles.

Cheers, Matthewedwards (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Certainly agree that GRASS is a rather complex tool, and that tutorial on en.wp is both somewhat complex and poorly translated IMO. I may write a similar full tutorial.

I'm a bit busy at present, so I'll give a brief description of my process (which produces PNGs) for now, and pad it out later

1. Get the topography, and its hillshading, sorted. Create a png from them.
2. Do the same for the bathymetry.
3. Create a svg from the coastline data.
4. Edit this (eg in Inkscape or a text editor) to ensure each land mass's coast has a single closed path, including any on the map's edge. Combine these into a single path.
5. Alter the coast path to stroke:none;fill:black and convert it to a png
6. You can then combine the bathymetry and topography, using the coast png as an input mask
7. Export any other overlays required, and combine with the above in GIMP to get finished product.

I can't immediately recall where I got all my data from - but File:Ireland relief location map.png uses NASA data only.--Nilfanion (talk) 08:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Merseyside UK location map

I've just noticed File:Merseyside UK location map.svg has no railways on it! I assume that's an error. Could you upload a new version with railways, when you have the time? (No urgency.) -- Dr Greg  talk  00:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Second opinion

Care to add a second opinion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Forth and Clyde Ship Canal - geograph.org.uk - 260482.jpg? Seems we have some inconsistency. Wknight94 ^talk 15:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Other Protestant churches

There are still categories for these under Category:Churches in Cornwall by religion; Category:Churches in Lancashire by religion. The one for Devon has been tidied up but these still exist.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 16:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Didn't notice those. That said, with the Devon sorted, its just a question of using same princple - discussion isn't really needed now. I'll have a stab at them when I get chance--Nilfanion (talk) 00:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

For reference the list is:

Category:Other denomination churches in Berkshire‎, Category:Other denomination churches on the Isle of Wight, Category:Other Protestant churches in Cornwall, Category:Other Protestant churches in Devon (still), Category:Other Protestant churches in Essex, Category:Other Protestant churches in Lancashire and Category:Other Protestant churches in the United Kingdom.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:44, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, it is a time-consuming task to clear up something like this and in some cases there is very little information about where that church should go.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:16, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Derivative map template possibility

So useful are the maps coming out of your major project that I wondered if there is any mileage in a specific template to save time when anyone does derivatives, perhaps Template:Deriv-Nilfanion.

I have used some of your SVG maps to create a base locator map from which individual island locator maps can be made, and I am looking at more of them. For example File:Orkney blank.svg is from one of yours, stripped back to essentials and recoloured. Each time I fill all the fields for the base map as a derivative (which seems to require that I give the name of the original three times). For the locator maps derived from the base map, I forget the "derivative" elements and just give the base map as the source, while repeating the Licence field.

You provide Commons with a great deal more than the maps, so might too focussed a Template be problematic? Before I start using your name in vain, I would welcome any thoughts you have on parameters and so forth.

Hogweard (talk) 14:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree a custom template would be handy, the derivative upload process is tedious - a template will make it faster and ensure consistent text. One additional benefit is it ought to stop flooding the source files with links to derivatives, which aren't relevant a lot of the time. Look at File:English ceremonial counties 2010.svg to see what I mean.

With regards to its parameters: the source being something like "Derived from [file(s)], created by Nilfanion from OS data" and carrying forward the license info should suffice. IMO no need to mention me again in the author field of the derivative... And I'd suggest you solely focus the template on the maps - anything derived from photos ought to be uploaded as normal and marked with {{retouched}}.

Incidentally, I just checked some of your Orkney maps and they don't even have license info at present(!) Never mind mentioning either me or OS.--Nilfanion (talk) 15:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

How about this one, as a quick knock-up job: Template:Deriv-Nifmap. The intention is that one should just replace Template:Information with Template:Deriv-Nifmap and use the same fields as for a plain upload. It will then feed those fields to Template:Information and give it the licence etc. It only works though for a file derived from a single file of yours; more complexity is beyond me at 11 o#clock at night.

I inserted it successfully into File:Orkney blank.svg. There is no carry-over into derivatives of the derivative, which for the ones I did just reference the original "blank" file. Hogweard (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Discussion on reuploads and renaming of your uploaded files.

Hello. User:Supportstorm has been reuploading and requesting renames of some of your uploads. I've posted a message for discussing things with you instead of entering into edit-warring / clashing with you. I hope we can resolve genuine concerns amicably. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2012 (UTC).

File:Raspberry Pi 7.jpg

Hi. I saw this diff and note that the retained file has no description. My version was linked to in my gallery on 27 March 2012. I don't care which version is retained, as they've been identified as duplicates. However, I wonder whether my version also had an empty description parameter, as the retained version does. If not, I'd like to suggest that combined information from both descriptions should be presented. What do you think? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 08:37, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes the files are exact duplicates. If I remember right I'd have preferred to have kept your version (as its older), but when the duplicate is bitwise-identical the script doesn't let you reverse the order - something it allows for non-exact file.

Your version did have a description. I should have detected that when I did the deletion, and carried it forward, but was oversight on my part (I've added it now).--Nilfanion (talk)

Thanks, although I now see that my description doesn't amount to much! Would it be possible for the script to check for an empty description in the retained file and copy the parameter from the other? Or maybe amalgamate multiple descriptions for a human (non-admin) to refer to and edit? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 08:32, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

The script allows the processing admin to include all info from the originals (description, licence, categories etc). Modification of the script to check for, and warn about empty description, no licence, no categories, might be possible. Allowing non-admins to merge duplicate descriptions would also be helpful.

Proper place to discuss those modifications is MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AjaxQuickDelete.js (beyond my skills set!).--Nilfanion (talk) 21:59, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Beyond mine too! Thanks, I might drop a note there. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 12:22, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Duke and Duchess of York, 1931

Would it be possible to change the filename of this

; Welsh bards are not Arabs and their costumes are different.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Its certainly possible: You can either tag it with {{rename}}, or I can do a rename - if you can suggest a better one? I suggest the description needs tweaking too...--Nilfanion (talk) 22:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Could I suggest you amend description but I do not know enough German to translate it all. Filename could be: Bundesarchiv Bild 102-12697, London, Duke of York with Welsh Bards 1931.jpg.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 11:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Alberto2006rain.gif

File:Alberto2006rain.gif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Hurricanefan24 (talk) 14:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Alex2004rain.gif

File:Alex2004rain.gif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Hurricanefan24 (talk) 14:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Bonnie2004rain.gif

File:Bonnie2004rain.gif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Hurricanefan24 (talk) 14:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Chantal2001pr.gif

File:Chantal2001pr.gif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Hurricanefan24 (talk) 16:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

GPL/LGPL

See User talk:Colin/GFDL. Perhaps you more about GPL/LGPL? 17:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Hurricane GIS Tracks?

Hello, I was installing the track map generator on Ubuntu 12.04 today and I discovered that it wouldn't build. It appears that the newest version of Cairo depreciated some of the features used by the track map generator. I was able to use w:Scientific Linux with an older version of Cairo however this does not appear to be feasible in the long term.

As a result, I have a question: in this response, did you say that there was a way to make the tracks with GIS? If so I was wondering how one would do such an image.

Thanks, — Iune(talk) 23:35, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not surprised that the Tracks package would break in the long run (unmaintained code will eventually break if its dependencies are liable to change). GIS can be used to provide identical output, and can be extended in many more ways than the generator (a light-weight single function tool). Different projections, different data displayed (eg pressure or wind swathe?).

Basically what you need is a GIS program like Quantum GIS and the GIS-format source data (not HURDAT!). NHC provides current season info here, making it the obvious place to start. Only real complication is getting the background map added.

If there's sufficient interest from WPTC I'll try to work up a tutorial so that you can produce identical output to the tracks package, as well as pointing out possible ways to improve on it.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll look into Quantum GIS this weekend — Iune(talk) 02:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Colours in File:Ireland relief location map.png

Hi Nilfanion,

is there a reason why the upper left corner of Northern Ireland (around Shantallow) is dark green, although it belongs to UK?

Best wishes --JøMa (talk) 21:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

No valid reason - its an error on my part. I'll try and fix it ASAP.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

ok I see, thank you in advance! :) --JøMa (talk) 21:19, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Done a quick edit.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Licensing

Hello,
I uploaded this file. I added this licensing:

{{self|cc-by-3.0}}

As i made it by my own, based on the logo of a game called "Club Penguin", however, as it is based on a trademark, i don't want to encourage people to use it for advertising. Is there a better licensing for this file, on this case?
Deuterium (talk) 12:13, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

{{Trademarked}} is what you need. The license info at File:Disney Club Penguin Logo.svg, which I guess is an older version of the game's logo, is the appropriate way to handle this. I would suggest that you also mark it as PD - if its too simple for copyright, then neither you or Disney can assert copyright over it.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

AWB

Hi Nilfanion. I adjusted the instructions at Commons:AutoWikiBrowser because preferences is now under options rather than tools. Should there be a note concerning older versions of AWB where it's under tools? Thanks for your time. INeverCry 19:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think note is necessary. My understanding is that older versions of AWB are disabled, and if you attempt to log-on will instead tell you to update to current version. I'd double check that behaviour by testing an older version. Perhaps a message like "the current version of AWB is X and can be downloaded from (link). Older versions are disabled on this project" will be useful, but how to work old versions isn't really.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I think I'll leave well-enough alone, seeing that the WP AWB soft redirect leads to all the info I could see anyone needing, and links to downloads etc. INeverCry 21:12, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Convert all interlaced JPGs

Hello, can you by any chance give a look at this bot work request? Thanks, Nemo 10:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

South West Geograph categorization

Hi, I have updated the South West script with the new logic. Any reason not to kick this off again? I'm thinking of starting it from zero (it was at 54,000 out of 148,000) which means a couple of days to catch up with where it was, but there might be a few mismatching old categories that it would replace in the process. Double categorization should now be impossible, as it will strip out any that match 'Geograph images in ' and add the new one, if different.

By the way, I have tried doing a bit of a dry run, and an example of a correction that starting from zero would bring up, would be File:Hurn Railway Station 1.jpg and File:Hurn_Railway_Station_3.jpg where Hampshire would be changed over to Category:Geograph images in Dorset. --Fæ (talk) 11:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Sounds sensible to me, and yes starting from scratch and changing as appropriate is sensible. Category:Plymouth, Category:Torbay, Category:Poole, Category:Bournemouth, Category:North Somerset and Category:Bath and North East Somerset, are all the categories for the UA of their name, so you won't get any disambiguation errors. I will compile a full UK listing for UAs nationally, to ensure you avoid the sort of error Foroa reported in future.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

WereSpielChequers (talk) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec12}} to your friends' talk pages.

File:Harrow London UK blank ward map.svg

Hi! I'm creating location maps templates for London boroughs at Polish Wikipedia just now, based on your ward maps. I would just like to ask if you could please correct the map of Harrow - the borough marked on the small map of London in the corner is actually Havering. I'm affraid this may confuse people a bit when we start using it in articles. Thank you in advance! And it's really great job with all those maps, well done! Powerek38 (talk) 23:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed error - thanks for pointing it out. It might take a while for the thumbnails to refresh though...--Nilfanion (talk) 23:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Leats etc

I think that is one helluva lot of work however if you feel you want to if would be interesting to see what it looks like. On that subject I assume you have the en page for leats watchlisted - insane to suggest the merge there or what? --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:17, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Neat - impressive too - well done. Are you going to put some narrative somewhere to explain what you've done? --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Faebot's next Geograph run

Hi, Faebot is on Page 122,953 of 147,957 @16:53:06 for the Devon/Cornwall area per User:Faebot/Geograph#2b: Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, Dorset, so should complete this major bit of categorization in the next two days or so. I will probably set up Wales again this weekend (or maybe the beginning of next week) which would be a similar nice month long task to churn through. It might be a good time for you to take another bit of a sniff around the Cornwall/Devon sorting, just to make sure, and I'll have confidence when using similar logic for the Wales region. I might then re-kick London sorting (as soon as Hampshire vs. the Isle of Wight finishes) which has been paused since we reviewed the process. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Will do. I suspect I will find apparently misplaced files, for the same reasons as happened in the Welsh check. However, I doubt there will be anything drastically wrong (I've already been using Geograph in Devon to find Devon images without Devon cats).--Nilfanion (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Truly terrible error

The bot is clearly broken - why on earth would it think the image to right is Dorset instead of Devon?! Joking of course :) This one illustrates the limitations nicely, as only a human would be certain to get both this right and a second photo from the pub looking towards where this one was taken. It's only Devon image wrongly in the Dorset cat.--Nilfanion (talk) 19:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Pacific Typhoon from 2000 to 2012

Hello, I love your work on the typhoon mapping! I am an artist and am currently working on a sculpture in which I am translating the typhoon tracks over Taiwan in to a multi-media sculpture. I have been trying to compile track information in the Pacific and generally close to Tawian from the years 2000 to 2012. Can you help me obtain files that I can work with in Adobe Illustrator? I would ideally like to take each typhoon season by year and over lay them for the 12 years I am looking for. Could you perhaps help me with this?? Or point me in the direction of someone that could help. Essentially I am wanting to work with the track files in a format that I can extract the track each individual track, no globe image behind it, then I can compile them myself. Please let me know if you can help with something like this. All the best, Thank you.

Your project sounds very interesting.

I could produce a series of PNGs, with the track shown against a transparent background, calibrated to show the same geographic area (which will ease overlays). Basically you'd like get a series of files like File:Haitang 2005 track.png but with a transparent background. Those files will be raster images, which may or may not be too limiting for your needs. Several other people here can use the package to create similar tracks, but I doubt they have the skills to handle a request like this.

If you will need to have vector images to work with, that's a lot more complex. Best way to do that would be using GIS software like w:Quantum GIS. That can convert the raw data to a vector format like SVG - if you have experience with GIS you can probably do that yourself. I would be able to, but it would be time-consuming.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Whalsay, Shetland

Hi there. How are you? I was wondering if you could create a map of Whalsay for pin, good scale and which shows a lot of the islets off the shore, with a Shetland/Scotland window locator in the corner? I'm currently doing a series on Whalsay and have created a big nav plate, with lots of geo features, I really need a map of Whalsay for pin. Can you do one?Blofeld Dr. (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I've nominated 6 Whalsay articles for DYK, one is a four hook at here. Skate of Marrister now has an article too. Can you make the map within the next few days in time?Blofeld Dr. (talk) 11:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

You mean this? :)--Nilfanion (talk) 13:39, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Wirral

Hi, do you mind having a think about Category:Geograph images in Merseyside? Faebot is going through the whole of Wales, and to avoid wrong categorization dropping out of Google Maps for images that OS data cannot handle, I allowed Wirral area categorization. However after looking at the Commons category discussion on what was the Wirral category, and the associated Wikipedia articles, the best naming to choose is still out-foxing me, I may just be tired. If you have an opinion I would welcome something I can let Faebot apply and remap the work so far if needed. Cheers Fæ (talk) 17:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

As I've said before, don't use constituencies like Wirral South or Wirral West. The bot is using administrative data, so when it returns "Wirral" it means the administrative area called Wirral ie the Metropolitan Borough of Wirral, not any other meaning of the word "Wirral". That means there are two options:

1. Use "Merseyside"
2. Use "Metropolitan Borough of Wirral"

Both are viable, it depends on if you want to provide greater precision. There's no harm in doing so, and probably will be beneficial so I'd say use borough-level.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I was tired. I'll remap Faebot now to use the Borough for any of the Wirral names, we have a category for that anyway. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 23:01, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Metrolink

Hi again Nilfanion,

Rumour (well, inside information) has it that the Rochdale stretch of Metrolink is to open very soon, with bosses aiming for 28th February (at best) or 18th March (at worst).

I can sort the black map out with the update no problem, but it occured to me that the coloured "route" map may be more tricky. Does the colour map have the Rochdale stretch info embedded into it (invisibly)? If so, I can probably work it out. If not, are you willing and able to update the map in readiness? Jza84 (talk) 16:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

The colour map doesn't have that embedded. A copy/paste of the required elements from the basic black map will work here (as the extension of a single colour route), but that may be difficult in Inkscape.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nilfanion, I'm glad you said that. I was trying to work out how to copy and paste it in Inkscape all last night without success! I tried it in illustator, but some information and styling is lost upon opening the SVG (probably my old version of illustrator). What I don't want to do is to come grovelling to you every time a new line opens, but wondered if this is something you can help with on the coloured map if you get chance this coming week? I thought I'd let you know too that I uploaded all the historical maps of the Metrolink system's growth based on your work too. :) Jza84 (talk) 15:23, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

-Sorted the black version, which is the the Metrolink maps category, but I've raised a GL request at en:Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Metrolink. Not sure if you're able to pick it up - if not, hopefully someone will come along before Thursday! :P Jza84 (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for delay, but got the coloured one extended to Rochdale station (not town centre). One plus to leaving it to today saves any short-term inaccuracy by showing a non-open line on the map. This also confirms my lack of faith in the workshop page on WP, an experienced SVG editor ought to be able to do that in <15 min. So why didn't anyone....?--Nilfanion (talk) 09:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you sir - much appreciated as always. The workshop is a real shame - a project like that could give (for instance) design students great real-world experience, portfolio building, and the opportunity to have their work shown on some of the most valuable and wide-reaching real estate on the internet! Jza84 (talk) 12:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

--You (and I) have had some praise here. I've been scouring that forum for a week or two wondering if it would throw up any feedback, and it seems the real hardcore tram enthusiasts love it. Jza84 (talk) 18:50, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

changes

FYI, I've started a thread on the village pump (Commons:Village Pump#Changing PD to free license) regarding your recent changes from PD to cc-by-sa on some of your works. I can certainly understand why you would want to make such a change, but I'm not sure if that should be encouraged. Or if its even enforceable, you did put the works into the public domain.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I added a "Credit Phil Konstantin" to my photos when they were first uploaded. A few days later, a "know-it-all" Wiki user told me I was not allowed to require people to credit me when they use my photos. The Wiki user said Wikipedia REQUIRED that all photos by Public Domain. Since there were no options on the upload page, I had to choose the unwanted PD. Later, I discovered the CC 3 designation. All I want is my name credited as photographer. Other than that, I have made asked for no limitations on use. If someone says they downloaded it before I changed it, that's OK with me. Phil Konstantin Philkon (talk) 23:27, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

category redirects

According to [7]: The name "Pörsten-Leipzig" is wrong, its not the name of the railway line, and nobody would search for this name. The correct and only name is "Leipzig-Plagwitz–Pörsten". So I think, the redirect is not necessary. --Andre de (talk) 12:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nilfanion, independent of your current conflict with Foroa, I want to suggest that it might be wise to add some small note for admins, as myself, to such redirect-cats as Category:People from Osaka stating that they were created intentionally and should not be deleted. Otherwise there is always a risk that a user puts a media into this redir-cat, then another user discovers this and moves the media into the regular-cat and then tags the redir-cat for deletion. --Túrelio (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree that is a risk. I haven't created that many (so am able to actively monitor them), so I feel no particular need to add such a note. The cat-redirect emptying bots are reasonably prompt so its unlikely a file will remain there for too long.

What I would say is the conflict between myself and Foroa ought to be solved by developing some sort of community consensus. Once that is established, I'd imagine we will have a relatively circumscribed set of situations where category redirects ought to be used. I didn't create any redirects from meta-categories, for example, as I see no potential for someone to use link to such a category externally.

{{category redirect}} itself can then be edited to directly reflect that consensus, making additional notes redundant.--Nilfanion (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Category:InterProject templates

Bonjour,

J'ai vu que tu avais modifié Template:InterProject/Wikinews et je voudrais te dire que tous les modèles de la catégorie Category:InterProject templates ont un lien vers une page qui n'existe plus. Saurais-tu ce qu'il faut faire ?

Par ailleurs, tu as peut-être entendu parler d'un certain projet appelé Sisterlink project. Un IP avait un jour ajouté un modèle pour cela sur en.wikt (see the first edit summary box) ; ce projet est-il encore valable aujourd'hui ? Est-il important d'avoir de tels modèles ayant des liens vers Commons ?

Merci d'avance, Automatik (talk) 22:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for replying in English - easier for me to do so.

Template:InterProject/Wikinews is used in a few places on Commons to provide a link to (en) Wikinews. For instance, it is used on Special:RecentChanges to link to n:Special:RecentChanges

Template:Sisterlinks is no longer used on Commons, but its role is still valid and useful. That is done by the sister templates in Category:Interwiki link templates. There are examples of this at Category:People and Category:France. Wikipedia links are not included in the Commons template, as they are handled via the sidebar on Commons.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer, it's clear to me. Automatik (talk) 19:43, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Scales on maps

What to what scale are your maps such as this one, this one and this one drawn? Are the scales and specs consistent throughout the UK? Thanks. Hogweard (talk) 17:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

The maps have been designed to fill the canvas with the subject area (allowing for a reasonable margin), and ensure that the boundary conditions were as simple as possible. For example on the Outer Hebrides, the boundaries are all to tenths-of-a-degree. Maps showing the entire country are even more - as I made sure the aspect ratio and boundaries matched the existing maps like File:England location map.svg. Those things, and the choice of projection, are all to ease usage in location map templates.

The exact scale wasn't a design consideration, and each map will have a different scale. Its extremely unlikely that any of my maps have simple scales like 1:250,000, and its coincidence if two maps have the same scale. All I can really say is that the scaling is consistent - smaller subjects have larger scales.

Approximate scales can be determined by working back from the boundary parameters: The Outer Hebrides map is 2.6 degrees wide which is ~155 km wide, at the central latitude of 57.65 N. The SVG is nominally 91mm wide at 300dpi. So that's approximately 1:1,700,000 as a printout. The nature of equirectangular projections means that the scale is variable at different latitudes (cf File:France location map-Regions and departements.svg.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you; it is a more complicated business than I hoped, but things can be done with this. If you have or know of a detailed SVG blank map (coastline only) for the British Isles or at least for Great Britain as a whole then I can base some new maps on that.

I have a current problem in that Inkscape crashes my computer when manipulating your larger SVG files simply because of their size, which shows your dedication to detail. I am hoping that some more RAM may solve that problem.

Hogweard (talk) 18:30, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

It should be relatively easy to extract an SVG coastline map from the existing maps. Even if Inkscape fails due to memory issues, a text editor can be used for that - deleting the relevant paths isn't that difficult.

As for basing new maps on the coastline, what is it you are trying to do? I should be able to offer more concrete advice and probably prepare a base coastline map more suitable for your needs.

For example, if you are trying to display historical information on a modern coastline, then its likely your sources will use the OS National Grid (OSGB). I can readily create an SVG coastline on the same projection. Advantages there is that is the "ideal" projection for British maps, a uniform scale and is easy to plot grid references onto. Those are all big plus points for combining with other maps or data using that projection (any OS map). The drawback is converting WGS84 latitude/longitude to an OS grid ref is hard. That can't be done on-the-fly by location maps, hence the use of equirectangular projections, and converting maps between the two can only really be done in a GIS package.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:40, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I have in mind immediately a set of historic county maps, to be drawn on an otherwise blank map of the British Isles. There is a good dataset in KML format provided by the Historic Counties Trust as its "County Borders" project. This data is very detailed, based on OSGB and scaled at 1:100 000; that is big data and too detailed in its current form for and when I tried to manipulate just one county's data to try to create an SVG it caused another crash! (Mind you, I was doing it manually without much of an idea about what I was doing.)

The coastline data is not good, but the borders between counties are done exactly. If there were a way to generate a deprecated version of this boundary data to a more web-friendly scale and converted to SVG, we could have some pretty good maps. So far the published data covers only England and Wales, though I asked the HCT and understand that the Scotland boundary data is there, just awaiting a good source of coastline data. Hogweard (talk) 22:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

That task is easy enough, and I can readily produce their data in SVG format. A good source of coastline data is readily available too - OS Opendata. The Boundary-Line product contains the modern admin boundaries and, more importantly here, mean high water for GB. HCT could readily use that to finalise their Scottish data.

That said, I advise a degree of caution in its use. I found that data a while a go and asked about it here. The data shows the counties as defined by the HCT, which is roughly (but not necesarily exactly) what they were in 1887. There's other caveats as well such as differences from the time of Domesday, how the exclaves are handled and so on.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:05, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

The HCT data should be plenty good enough for most purposes, and detached parts can be include or wxclusded easily enough (I'll ask if that data is there). If you can do it, I would be most grateful, and I will ask the HCT to put a link and an acknowledgement on their website if you wish (and they are very pleasant chaps so I'm sure they will). Hogweard (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to be unavailable for a week or so, but will get at this when I can. I certainly agree that the data is good enough for most purposes (and its a very useful resource). Its more about making sure its not misrepresented, HCT data is subtly different from "the counties in the year X", so shows something different to File:English counties 1851 with ridings.svg.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

That would be great if you can, when you're free. I'm sure we can find a suitable name for the resultant map. Hogweard (talk) 22:35, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Of course problem here is HCT hasn't got the Scottish data online... I'll get an England/Wales map up later this week.--Nilfanion (talk) 11:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

That's very helpful. If I find out that the HCT have Scottish county border data, I will let you know. Hogweard (talk) 18:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Isle of Wight map?

Hi there. I'm an editor over at Wikipedia, and I've been working on an article about the election recently held to the Isle of Wight Council. I've noticed the amazing ward maps you've been producing, and I was hoping if I would be able to ask if you would please be able to produce one for the island? I really think it would help make the article that much more complete, so if you are able to do this then thank you! I'd do it myself, but I haven't got a clue about how to go about making one. Look forward to your reply. Redverton (talk) 15:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The relevant blank map is at File:Isle of Wight UK ward map (blank).svg - there haven't been any (significant) boundary changes since 2010, so that map is valid for the elections that have just been held. There are instructions at w:User:Nilfanion/Elections, which should be sufficient to help you create a coloured version for the 2013 election.

If need be I should be able it myself eventually, but I have a number of other tasks to do here at present (as well as in RL), such as getting current maps for those areas affected by boundary changes.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:58, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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