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schön, dass du es dir anders überlegt hast :-) -- Rillke(q?) 14:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

ich bin sauer und enttäuscht aber das betrifft eben nur einige wenige Leute hier. --Ralf Roleček 15:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi,

ich sehe gerade zufällig, dass die erste Aufnahme der Person hier mit 5,53 MB mit einer Version von 664 KB überschrieben worden ist. Die ursprüngliche Version ist nicht scharf, kannst du evtl. mit Photohop und mit deiner Erfahrung noch was machen? Aber nicht verzetteln - vielleicht ergibt sich noch Gelegenheit für eine gute Aufnahme. --Atamari (talk) 16:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

[talkpstalk] Die ursprüngliche Version ist zwar tatsächlich nicht hochqualitativ, aber in meinen Augen eindeutig besser als die jetzige. Ich würde einen Revert vorschlagen ...    FDMS  4    19:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Ich werde mich mal dransetzen und gucken, was zu retten ist. das ist wirklich ein böser Fall. Mal sehen, was Photoshop zaubern kann. --Ralf Roleček 20:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Ich weiß nicht, ob das wirklich besser geworden ist. Bei solch einer Vorlage wird das natürlich auch ziemliche Holzhammermethode. Besser bekomme ich es nicht hin. --Ralf Roleček 11:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

{{self}} ist aber falsch beim Zweiten ...    FDMS  4    11:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Eigenes Werk von Scribo, warum nicht? Seit der Reworkhelper nicht mehr läuft, kopiere ich einfach die alten Inhalte ins neue Bild. --Ralf Roleček 11:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Naja, nicht er veröffentlicht es ja unter der Lizenz, sondern du ...    FDMS  4    13:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Das sehe ich anders. Ich werde ja durch das bißchen Bearbeitung nicht zum Urheber, ich bin nur der Hochlader. Als Urheber steht immer noch der Gleiche drin und es ist sein "own work". --Ralf Roleček 13:19, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Ich kann jetzt auch nichts finden was offensichtlich dagegen spricht und du kennst dich wohl aus, aber für mich ist die Commons-Veröffenlichung das Hochladen selbst.    FDMS  4    13:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Veröffentlichung hat selten was mit Urheberschaft zu tun. Ein Buch wird vom Verleger, Verlag, manchmal einer Druckerei veröffentlicht. Urheber bleibt der, der das Buch geschrieben hat. Anders ist es hier doch auch nicht. --Ralf Roleček 14:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Das habe ich schon verstanden, ich meine nur dass das hiermit dein Eindruck machen könnte der Urheber wäre auch der Veröffentlicher (und umgekehrt), das wäre je nach Auslegung ein Verstoß gegen No-endorsement. Aber verbringe deine Rückkehrzeit mit etwas schönerem als darüber zu diskutieren.    FDMS  4    14:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Puh. Sehr viel Mühe, aber das Ausgangsbild ist wohl zu schlecht. Das neue wirkt als thumb aber schärfer. --Atamari (talk) 21:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Ralf, wenn ich dich mal fragen darf, in wie weit kann man denn Geld mit Bildern auf Commons verdienen? Gibst dazu offizielle Statements? Lieben Gruß Perhelion (talk) 22:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

"Offizielle Statements" kann ich nicht bieten aber eine persönliche Meinung. Ich habe immer wieder Nachfragen für Nutzungen meiner Bilder, für gedruckte Werke sammle ich viele davon auf User:Ralf Roletschek/Bücher. Alles dort sind erlaubte Nachnutzungen, teils mit Einhaltung der hier üblichen Lizenzen, teilweise auch ohne. Alles, was du dort siehst, geschah ohne finanzielle Bedingungen. Alle dort haben meine Bilder ohne Bezahlung nachgenutzt. Es gibt aber auch Fragen nach Nutzung ohne Urhebernennung. Mal paßt die Namensnennung nicht ins Konzept, mal wollen die Nachnutzer "aus Prinzip" ein Honorar bezahlen. Und ganz selten bekomme ich auch mal einen Auftrag, ganz bestimmte Bilder anzufertigen. Ich habe letzte Woche grad einen Hochglanzbildband über Hamburg als Belegexemplar bekommen, die haben Bilder von mir kostenfrei benutzt. Das ist für mich Lohn genug, in so einem hochwerigen Bildband namentlich erwähnt zu werden. --Ralf Roleček 22:49, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Vielen lieben Dank der Ausführung. Smile -- Perhelion (talk) 11:19, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

problem with your author name[edit]

Hey Ralf,
if someone will use your pictures, where author is "Ralf Roletschek - Fahrradtechnik und Fotografie". What should be used, Ralf Roletschek or Fahrradtechnik und Fotografie? There could not be two instances taking the foto. Thank you for clearifikation, Conny (talk) 21:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC).

Warum denn schon wieder? Du warst doch bei der Disk. um die Bausteine dabei? --Ralf Roleček 16:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Please give me an answer, how to reuse your picture correctly. Thank you, Conny (talk) 18:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC).
Kann das Theater bitte aufhören? Es ist offensichtlich "how to"... --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Letztes Beispiel einer Weiterverwendung: Ich habe vereinbart, daß die Nennung meines Namens an der im Buch üblichen Stelle ausreichend ist, in diesem Buch wurde im Impressum trotzdem die Langform mit URI der Homepage abgedruckt. In der Vorschau ins Buch, Seite 156 ist das erkennbar. Wie gesagt, bei Druckwerken reicht Namensnennung, wenn der nachnutzer fragt. Ich bitte um Verlinkung meiner Homepage bei Onlinenutzung, dies ist aber kiene Bedingung sondern ausdrücklich als Bitte gekennzeichnet. Mir reicht es in der Praxis sogar aus, wenn "Quelle:Wikipedia" druntersteht, auch wenn das alles Andere als lizenzkonform ist. Ich schreibe am Bild: "Bitte benutzen sie nach Möglichkeit als Bildbeschreibung: Ralf Roletschek / roletschek.de" - ist das so unverständlich? Ich bitte, ich verlange nicht! --Ralf Roleček 19:37, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Danke für eure Erklärungen, thank you for your explanation. Grüße euch, Conny (talk) 20:45, 24 March 2014 (UTC).

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Wo drehen sie sich?

Hallo Ralf - guckst Du bitte mal de:WP:AU#Ja wo fliegt er denn, ja wo fliegt er denn da hin? hier wegen Category:Unidentified locations in Germany in the 2010s Danke - LG --Flag of Switzerland.svg Frze > talk 22:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Ich würde sagen, 30 km WNW von Spandau. --Ralf Roleček 07:10, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Hatte eben auch gesucht: [1]. --тнояsтеn 07:34, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Nördlich der ICE-Strecke von Berlin nach Hannover sind nach etwa 10 Min. diese Propeller, was Anderes kann es eigentlich nicht sein. --Ralf Roleček 08:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Ralf,
wie du weisst, arbeite ich weiter an dem Artikel zu Forßmann - darin eingebunden auch dieses Bild von dir. Gibt es eine Möglcihkeit, die Spiegelungen zu reduzieren oder zu entfernen, ohne die Urkunde zu "beschädigen"? Gruß -- Achim Raschka (talk) 11:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Im Nachhinein wird das nichts, das ist zu schlecht. Ich werde mal hinfahren. --Ralf Roleček 17:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
keinen Stress draus machen. Danke, -- Achim Raschka (talk) 17:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Ich war eben im Krankenhaus und habe Fotos gemacht, es müßte was Brauchbares dabei sein. Die Büste von Forßmann und die künstlerisch gestaltete Metallwand habe ich auch gleich abgelichtet. Vom Künstler Eckhard Herrmann habe ich die Genehmigung. Heute wird es aber nichts mehr. --Ralf Roleček 17:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Die Urkunde ist fertig, der Rest ist unscharf, muß ich noch mal hin. --Ralf Roleček 14:34, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 Results Announcement[edit]

Picture of the Year 2013 Results[edit]

The 2013 Picture of the Year. View all results »

Dear Ralf Roletschek,

The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

  • In the first round, 2852 people voted for all 962 files
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We congratulate the winners of the contest and thank them for creating these beautiful images and sharing them as freely licensed content:

  1. 157 people voted for the winner, an image of a lightbulb with the tungsten filament smoking and burning.
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  3. In third place, 131 people voted for an image of a swallow flying and drinking.

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Commons:Wikipedians in Seifhennersdorf/Teilnehmer[edit]

>> LTP Sachsen

Moin Ček - komm doch mit Commons:Wikipedians in Seifhennersdorf/Teilnehmer, wir brauchen Dich ! LG von Flag of Switzerland.svg Frze > talk Dresden, am 23:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Was meinst du? Soll ich den Schlüssel vom Misthaus besorgen? --Ralf Roleček 07:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
JA - UNBEDINGT !!! LG von Flag of Switzerland.svg Frze > talk


Schreib mir schon mal eine Postkarte - den Kasten knack ich mit 'ner Büroklammerl 18:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


Den Strom klauen wir von der Peschakovna. Du schaltest das Licht wieder an. Ich bin der Verwalter vom 5. bis 9. Mai 2014. Du bist dran !

Da gibts nicht nur Strom, dort ist auch der Schlüssel! --Ralf Roleček 19:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Also dann, soll ich Dias von Marokko oder vom Tienschan mitbringen? LG von --Flag of Switzerland.svg Frze > talk 03:12, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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I dont find categorys because my english is too bad. --Ralf Roleček 08:42, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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What can I do for you.[edit]

Sorry for my broken english. I get your plan on the wikimedia. I am a wikipedian and I live in Nanjing now. I really what to know is there anything I can help you.--SyaNHs (talk) 07:13, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

My English is also very broken ;) In the Moment i have problems with the Akkreditation. This is cancelled and i no knew, why. --Ralf Roleček 08:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Do you mean "accreditation"? I think you need to apply for the Press Card. The application date will end in Apirl 30, you guys need to be quick. Visit this page [2] , I think you can ask the Scottish and Australian guys to help you.--SyaNHs (talk) 14:22, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Half month has passed, have you applied for the press card?--SyaNHs (talk) 00:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi SyaNHs and Ralf. I created an account on the IOC website today, and applied for press credentials as part of that request (I think). What is the next step? Diliff (talk) 16:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I dont knew. Its possible that our accreditations are disabled. I have an other contact at IOC and will write a letter. --Ralf Roleček 16:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ralf. I guess this trip is not happening now, as my application was rejected, and it sounded like you were also having trouble being accepted? Diliff (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
We have a last Chance. I have written a letter to Thomas Bach. Now we can waiting only. --Ralf Roleček 07:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi again. Can I assume that you weren't successful in getting accreditation? What went wrong? Diliff (talk) 14:04, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Im not sure but i think, the problem is China. They have perharps a problem with Wikipedia, ~media and so one. Let us show to other Events, i think, Nanjing is history, sorry. --Ralf Roleček 14:09, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Ein frohes und gesegnetes Osterfest[edit]

mini wünscht --Lutheraner (talk) 11:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Credit-Vorlage[edit]

Hallo Ralf! Ich habe deine Credit-Vorlage auch mal für meine Fotos übernommen - ich hoffe das geht für dich in Ordnung. Mir gefällt diese sehr gut. Vielfach wird auf Commons auch das Feld Permission der Info-Vorlage genutzt, s. z.B. bei diesem Foto. Gab es für dich einen bestimmten Grund eine solche Vorlage statt des Permission-Feldes zu verwenden? Mir gefallen beide Varianten gut. --Tuxyso (talk) 06:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Schön, wenns dir gefällt. Ich habe keinen Grund, daas so zu machen. Darüber habe ich noch nicht nachgedacht. Da ich recht viele ausländische Nachnutzungen habe, sollte zumindest Englisch im Baustein sein, da würde es bei Permission etwas eng werden. --Ralf Roleček 09:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Warum verwendest du nicht {{LangSwitch |de= deutscher text |en= englischer}}? Dann könntest du sogar noch russisch ergänzen etc. --Steinsplitter (talk) 09:08, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Gottchen... Muss das sein, die Gesichtsbuch Vorlage a Seitenfang. AUA. --Steinsplitter (talk) 09:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Wenn ich wüßte, wie es geht, würde ich das mit dem Sprachwechsel machen. Du meinst meine Bemerkung auf der Homepage? Ich bekomme Mails von wildfremden Leuten, die das gut finden! --Ralf Roleček 09:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
War mal so Frei ein Beispiel anzulegen, wird dann in der Interface Sprache des Nutzers angezeigt. @FB: Joa, Habe auf den Link oben geklickt und musste mir ein FB Logo angucken iih. --Steinsplitter (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Ist das denn jetzt eine Vorlage, die unter permission direkt in der Info-Vorlage eingebunden werden soll? --Tuxyso (talk) 09:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
@Steinsplitter: Danke! ich wußte nicht, daß das so einfach ist. Müßt ihr mir so einen Schreck mit dem Fratzenbuch einjagen? Ich dachte, ihr hättet daran was auszusetzen: http://www.fahrradmonteur.de/H-Facebook ;) --Ralf Roleček 11:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Problem PNG[edit]

Hallo Ralf, deine Fotos in allen Ehren aber dein Verhältnis zum PNG-Format scheint auf dem Stand von vor 20 Jahren (ich glaube darüber hatten wir schon kurz in der Vergangenheit lamentiert). So etwas wie unter [3] ist eigentlich klar gegen das was in Commons üblich ist. Die Aktion von Admin Túrelio ist eigentlich nur so zu erklären, dass sie im Sinne eines respektablen Benutzers ist. Ich habe mal Commons:Dateitypen (genau so aus dem engl. COM:FT) ein klein wenig erweitert, was denn der Usus hier ist. Um konkret zu werden, ich habe deine Datei auf 7KB (vs. 427KB) gespeichert bei besserer Qualität. Tut mir leid, dass ich ein Verfechter der Commons-Empfehlungen bin, also bitte was soll das? Grüße -- Perhelion (talk) 13:01, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Daß PNG verlustfrei wäre, ist eine moderne Sage, die immer wieder gerne gesponnen wird. In Wirklichkeit ist das Format wenig verbreitet und deshalb nur zu gebrauchen, wenn man Transparentverläufe benötigt. Alles Andere können andere Formate besser. Und SVG ist in meinen Augen vollkommen unbrauchbar. Wenn man freilich die Welt aus Linux oder Wikipedia-Sicht betrachtet, kann das anders aussehen. In der Welt da draußen siehts jedenfalls anders aus. Irgendwelche Empfehlungen gehen mich nichts an, ich arvbeite seit Jahrzehnten im Grafikbereich und weiß, was geht und was gebraucht wird. Mirt Empfehlungen auf Commons oder Wikipedia ändert man die Arbeit des Grafikdesigns nicht. PNG ist eine unvollständige Ergänzung zu GIF, für Fotos ungeeignet. Verschone mich mit dem Kram! Nachnutzer wollen allgemeingebräuchliche Formate. --Ralf Roleček 13:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Jeder Browser kann PNG-Dateien richtig anzeigen. Sogar MS Paint kann es importieren. Wo ist das Problem? Vor fünf Jahren hätte ich dir vielleicht zugestimmt. Gzip-Kompression ist verlustfrei. Wenn man beim Speichern nichts falsch macht, kann man durchaus Grafiken verlustfrei im PNG-Format speichern - mit 8 Bit pro Kanal klappt das schon ganz gut. Aber ganz egal; ist es denn sinnvoll Zahlen und Buchstaben, die man auch mit Wiki-Markup darstellen kann, als Datei anzulegen? Es geht ja nicht um die Schriftart oder so.
@Perhelion: die PNG Datei wurde aus der JPEG-Datei erzeugt. Damit wird man Kompressionsartefakte, die hier faktisch nicht vorhanden sind (dafür ist die Dateigröße für das, was abgebildet ist ziemlich monströs: Ein halbes MB für eine zweifarbige Grafik), auch nicht los. -- Rillke(q?) 17:43, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Es geht mir nicht um Browser sondern die Nachnutzer. Internet ist nicht alles. Und selbst im Internet hat nicht jeder mederne Browser. Große Firmen besitzen oft Hunderte Computer mit hoffnungslos veralteter Software und die Nutzer können nichts dagegen tun. Der Spruch "schaff dir vernünftiges ... an" funktioniert eben in der Praxis oft nicht. JPG und GIF sind von Jedem benutzbar, PNG bereitet schon Probleme und SVG ist fast völlig inkompatibel zu so gut wie allen Grafikprogrammen. Photoshop, AutoCAD und 3DStudio in ihren neuesten Versionen unterstützen kein SVG und PNG nur stiefmütterlich. Wenn wir JPG durch PNG ersetzen, sperren wir Nachnutzer aus und das muß nicht sein. 24Bit-PNG kann sinnvoll sein, will ma Transparenzverläufe. Aber das können dann schon wieder nicht alle Programme lesen. --Ralf Roleček 18:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC) PS: Jede Bildbearbeitung ist eine Verschlechterung, bei jeder Bearbeitung gehen Informationen verloren. Selbst wenn wir unsere Augen und das Gehirn bescheißen, physikalisch ist das klar.
Ich weiß nicht, welche Photoshop-Version Du hast, aber CS2 kann PNG lesen und exportieren. Browser: Sogar der IE6 kann PNG richtig darstellen. Und Windows XP (bringt den IE 6 von Hause aus mit) sollte eigentlich bei allen Firmen inzwischen angekommen sein. In sooo vielen war ich noch nicht, aber überall, wo ich war, war Windows XP im Einsatz. Vielleicht Zeit, Deine Einstellung gegenüber dem PNG-Format zu ändern. Programme, wie Windows Movie Maker, die Windows Bild-und Faxanzeige oder Microsoft Expression unterstützen auch PNG. Sprich: Microsoft hat erkannt, dass PNG beliebt ist und es wird sich durchsetzen. Auch auf Mobilgeräten.
Zu SVG: Das macht auch nur mit Vektorgraphikprogrammen, wie Adobe Illustrator Sinn. Ich weiß, dass Photoshop auch Vektor-Objekte unterstützt, aber es heißt Photoshop und nicht ~Illustrator, ~Draw, ~Sketch. AI CS2 kann jedenfalls SVG exportieren. -- Rillke(q?) 20:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
SVG is not universally supported, but it is the most common vector image. It is well-supported among vector graphics software. Bitmap software is more limited, but it can be easily converted. Mediawiki even has a built-in convert.
PNG is universally supported, lossless, larger for photographic data, but better in every way for this kind of file. JPG is lossy, has artifacts, and in this case (non-photographic data) has a larger file size. --Jimbo1qaz (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Danke Rillke für dein fürsprechendes Einspringen. Es ist schon ärgerlich wenn jemand absichtlich (so lange) gegen die Commons-Empfehlungen (Gemeinschaft) handelt, ohne jetzt ausfallend werden zu wollen, sieht das für mich nach fanatischer Verbohrtheit aus (man möchte fast sagen Starrsinn). Dass sich jemand dazu noch so vehement gegen SVG ausspricht lässt sich im Sinne von Wikimedia nicht mehr mit Vernunft vereinbaren (auch wenn es auf den ersten Blick komplizierter zu erstellen erscheinen mag). Deshalb trifft "vor 20 Jahren" es auf den Punkt (eben weil es übertrieben ist). Wie Jimbo1qaz auch mitteilte (auch wenn er evtl. irgendeine Sockenpuppe ist) hatte er im Bewusstsein des PNG-Formates die Datei bereinigt (so habe ich es heute auch unter Commons:Dateitypen eingefügt). Mir geht es in diesem Fall nur ums Prinzip, bei dunklem Blau sieht man wirklich sehr wenig Artefakte (also nur in der Vergrößerung, vor allem da die Datei wenig komprimiert ist, 96%). Ein anderer Punkt ist, dass man 1. so immer wieder unweigerlich auf Konfrontation stößt (und 2. wohl eher vernachlässigbar und selten, eröffnet man gewissen Leuten ein Feld des Missbrauchs. Diese konvertieren (ohne irgendwas zu bereinigen) solcherlei getagte Grafiken massenhaft um dann versteckte Werbung unterzubringen.) 3. Die Datei hat keine Schöpfungshöhe, keinen Besitzer und somit stellt jede Verhinderung einer (auch kleinen) Verbesserung eine offene Ungerechtfertigkeit dar und die gilt es im Sinne aller zu vermeiden/unterbinden. Wenn für gewisse Leute Prinzipien hier nicht gültig sind, dann haben Prinzipien und alles darauf aufbauende keinen Wert. PS: Aber vlt. sollten wir hier auch im speziellen das Alter des Dargestellten mit dem Dateiformat passend für sich sprechen lassen. @Rillke: Wiki-Markup, wenn ich dich richtig verstehe, meine ich schon dass hier eine Grafik eher ihre Berechtigung hat. -- Perhelion (talk) 21:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
@Rillke: IE6 und 7 können PNG eben nicht sauber darstellen, nur wenns PNG-8 ist. Und diese Browser gibts noch massenhaft. Aber darum gehts nicht. Eine Umwandlung dieser JPG ist blanker Aktionismus und bringt genau gar nichts. Man kann bei der Umwandlung nichts verbessern. Das ginge nur, wenn man unverändertes Ausgangsmaterial hätte. Was die Sockenvorwürfe sollen und warum ich irgendwelche Nachrichten verstecken will, braucht mir auch keiner erklären. Zu viele Krimis gesehen, sowas diskutiere ich nicht. Wenn ich was verstecken wollte, dann würde das auch niemand finden. Und derlei Grafiken werde ich auch in 20 Jahren noch als JPG hochladen, ebenso wie ich DXF als Vektorformat benutze. --Ralf Roleček 06:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
IE6 und 7 können PNG eben nicht sauber darstellen - das gilt ja nur, wenn Du Transparenz ins Spiel bringst. Indizierte Paletten und bis zu 3x16 bits rgb, Gamma-Korrektur etc. werden im IE 6 und IE 7 ordentlich dargestellt. Der IE 7 stellt auch Transparenz in 8 bit grayscale + 8 bit alpha-channel, 16 bit grayscale + 16 bit alpha-channel, 3x8 bits rgb color + 8 bit alpha-channel und 3x16 bits rgb color + 16 bit alpha-channel richtig dar. Nur wenn man irgendwelche Filter per CSS dann auf der Website drüberlegt, klappt es nicht mehr. Photoshop: Hat bis CS5 Probleme, inidizierte PNGs mit Alpha-Kanal anzuzeigen. Nun ja, du kannst PNG ja weiter ignorieren oder unbrauchbar finden, solange Du keine Schnell-Löschanträge ohne Nachfrage beim Uploader stellst.
Abgesehen davon sind diese Probleme bekannt und GIF unterstützt überhaupt keinen Alphakanal und eine sehr kleine Farbpalette (1 byte). Aber um den Alpha-Kanal geht es in diesem Beispiel auch gar nicht; hier ging es um eine zweifarbige JPG-Grafik. Weiß auch nicht, wie Perhelion dazu kommt, solche Socken-Vorwürfe zu erheben. Finde ich auch einfach unnötig.
Software, in diesem Fall ein Computervirus, ist Deiner Meinung nach kein Werk? -- Rillke(q?) 09:07, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Ich meine, da fehlt die persönliche geistige Schöpfung. Aber darüber kann man sicher unterschiedlicher Meinung sein. Zumal dieser Ausschnitt ja nur ein ganz kleiner Teil des Virus ist und das ist nichtmal deassembliert. Der Quellcode des Stoned ist auch sehr langweilig und ganz gewiß kein Kunstwerk im Sinne des UrRG. Kann man nach GB/US-Recht aber sicher anders sehen. Er stammt aber aus Bulgarien. --Ralf Roleček 09:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, du kennst Dich mit Computerviren aus. Das ist ja spannend. Hattest Du so einen infizierten Aldi-Laptop oder bist Du generell daran interessiert?
Mal etwas ganz anderes, warum hast Du für die zweifarbige Grafik nicht GIF, sondern JPEG gewählt? -- Rillke(q?) 10:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Der Stoned hat mich 1991 mehrere Monate lang beschäftigt, ich mußte einen Rechner "zu Fuß" säubern. Ich sammle Viren, habe einen ganz netten Zoo beisammen. Und der liegt zufällig auch auf einem Aldi-Laptop. Warum kein GIF? Aus Dummheit wahrscheinlich, ich hab nicht nachgedacht. --Ralf Roleček 13:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Mehrere Monate … da musst du ihn ja richtig ins Herz geschlossen haben, den stoned-v. Verkaufst Du Eintrittskarten für den Zoo? Kann ich ihn auf der Wikimania mal sehen? -- Rillke(q?) 13:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Ich guck mal, ob ich einige temporär entlassen kann. Damals wurde ich dafür bezahlt, die daten zu retten, es waren Pläne des Olympiahafens Barcelona. Den großen 17"er schlepp ich nicht nach London. Aber Stoned und Cascade dürften kein Problem sein. Jerusalem funktioniert nicht mehr und einen eigenen Michelangelo kann ich sicher mitbringen. Mal gucken --Ralf Roleček 14:27, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Ihr solltet eure Prinzpien woanders reiten. Gilt für beide Seiten. Links auf andere Dateiversionen/Dateiformate sind kein Makel, Bemängelung oder Diskreditierung oder gar Löschen ungeliebter Dateiformate gehört sich aber ebenfalls nicht. Wenn jemand etwas als JPG hochlädt, auch wenn für dasselbe Bild PNG oder SVG möglicherweise das günstigere Format ist, ist das zu respektieren. Derivate sind ja jederzeit erlaubt, Platzmangel haben wir nicht. --Smial (talk) 08:33, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Ps: Sowohl die BADjpg als auch die Superseeded-Vorlage sind eigentlich völlig sinnbefreit und ein Affront gegen gutwillige Uploader. Wenn jemandem eine Dateiversion nicht paßt, soll er bitte seine ver(schlimm)besserte Version unter einem anderen Namen hochladen und einen Link unter "andere Versionen" setzen und fertig. Platzmangel haben wir nicht.
Das sehe ich ebenso. Aber die verschlimmbesserten Versionen sollen die anderen Dateien ja ersetzen, die Vorlagen sollen suggerieren, daß da was falschgemacht wurde. "Herr Lehrer, ich weiß was..., der hat was falschgemacht, ich kann es besser... ätsch" - und dagegen wehre ich mich, nix weiter. --Ralf Roleček 09:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Kann ich nachvollziehen. Ich weiß auch noch nicht, wie ich mit https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AZoom_prinzip.gif&diff=122004149&oldid=116304163 umgehen soll. Immerhin gilt das Original als QI. Wobei ich die drübergeladene Version gar nicht schlecht finde, aber sie weicht doch sehr ab, ich hätte das eben als alternative Version unter einem anderen Namen hochgeladen... -- Smial (talk) 09:52, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
COM:SPLIT für die Animation. Wehren sieht bei Ralf dann so aus, dass er die andere Datei mit {{Speedy}} versieht. Auge für Auge quasi. -- Rillke(q?) 10:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Hast du noch nie von der schnellsten Maus von Mexico gehört? ;) --Ralf Roleček 13:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
@Ralf: Das einzige was dich evtl. entschuldigen würde ist, dass hier die meisten weitergehenden Anleitungen in Englisch sind, aber offensichtlich würde es auch nichts ändern wenn sie in Deutsch sind. Wenn dein Weltbild so fest ist, du auch in 20 Jahren so handeln würdest, gibt es hier nichts weiter zu sagen (und ich habe dann wohl mit meinem Gesagtem noch untertrieben).
@Man kann bei der Umwandlung nichts verbessern. Ist natürlich auch falsch und besonders bei so einer Datei wie hier (wie gesagt, abgesehen von dem letztendlichen optischen Resultat). Da wir ganz einfach wissen dass das Ausgangsbild nur 2 Farben hat, ist nichts leichter als das (mit jedem guten Grafikprogramm) die Farbpalette mit den optimalen Farben wieder auf 1-bit zu setzen. Wird z.B. auch hier kurz erwähnt: Commons:Preparing images for upload (welche ich evtl. demnächst übersetze)
@Smial: Zoom_prinzip.gif sehe ich nicht als Verbesserung, zwar ist die Bewegung etwas weicher, es stockt jedoch sporadisch hin und her. Eine einzige Bewegung ist hier ausreichend und wesentlich schneller/schlüssiger interpretierbar.
@Platzmangel: dass wie hier kein gewinnorientiertes Unternehmen sind, heißt wohl nicht, dass wir unnötig verschwenderisch sein müssen (mit Spendengeldern), davon abgesehen dass sich sowas schnell potenzieren kann (Stromkosten, extra Rechenzeit für jeden, somit auch wieder extra Strom, Wartung)mal als Bsp.
-- Perhelion (talk) 15:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Dir ist aber schon klar, daß durch <superseeded> oder <badjpg> mit eventueller nachfolgender Löschaktion keinerlei Speicherplatz gespart wird? Die einzige sinnvolle Aktion ist die, die Ralf selbst angesprochen hat: Wenn er den Screenshot daheim noch als Bitmap vorliegen hat, selbigen als GIF, oder, falls er das übers Herz bringt, als PNG erneut hochladen. Das hätte man auch evtl. gleich per freundlicher Ansprache haben können, statt beim ursprünglichen Upload unfreundliche und möglicherweise für ihn unverständliche Bausteine reinzuballern. -- Smial (talk) 07:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Any progress in this argument? Should I reupload, perhaps under GIF? --Jimbo1qaz (talk) 03:41, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
@Jimbo1qaz: Not really. Try to make COM:UDEL (the compressed size of the PNG should be ~7 KB) and maybe with a link/hint hither.
Fazit: Verbesserungen, im Sinne der seit Urzeiten üblichen Commons-Empfehlungen (wie {{superseded}} / {{badjpg}}) werden als persönlich genommen (was ganz offen zugegeben wurde), auch für Bilder die keine Schöpfungshöhe haben, von Leuten die, auch nach mehrmaligen Hinweisen, nicht verstehen wollen was Palettenbild bedeutet (hier im speziellen 1-bit Farbtiefe, da kann es keinen Unterschied zum Original geben, es sei denn die JPG hatte bereits eine signifikant falsche Grundfarbe). Man möchte fast sagen, eine solche Ansicht kann nur verstanden werden, wenn diese von Extremfotografen kommt, die jedes Foto als ihr Bild und dessen spezielles Format als ihr universelles sehen, für anders oder sogar besser ist da kein Platz mehr. -- Perhelion (talk) 10:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Ich denke, Du hast inzwischen Ralfs Meinung verstanden; hier noch viel zu diskutieren bringt auch nichts, im Gegenteil, das nervt und ärgert Ralf wahrscheinlich eher; es nutzt auch nichts, grenzwertige Begriffe, wie "Extremfotografen" zu verwenden, die leicht missverstanden werden können -- ich lege sie gemäß COM:AGF mal als Bewunderung für Ralfs photographisches Engagement und gleichzeitige Enttäuschung aus, dass Deine favorisierte Version gelöscht wurde; die gelöschte Grafik habe ich wiederhergestellt, allerdings sind die Vorschaubilder der JPEG-Version tatsächlich kleiner und IMHO auch besser. Vielleicht versucht ihr mal noch eine GIF ;-)
Können wir dieses "Problem" jetzt abhaken? Darf ich das letzte Wort haben oder muss noch jemand seinen Senf dazu geben? -- Rillke(q?) 20:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Eine Version, die ohne EURO-Zeichen auskommt. Gibt es für die Verbesserer dann auch als File:Hexcode stoned virus DOS codepage 850 tiff.tif und File:Hexcode stoned virus DOS codepage 850 png.png. -- Smial (talk) 21:18, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Nun fehlt noch das entsprechende BMP-File ... ;-) --Alchemist-hp (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Man könnte noch ein .webm video über die Wirkung bauen. Eine VM mit DOS 6.22 habe ich am Start... -- Smial (talk) 07:06, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
@"Problem" jetzt abhaken: Ich kann mich dem Eindruck nicht erwehren, dass hier noch mal polemisch nachgehakt wurde. Obwohl die Version von Smial im VGA-Format, hätte durchaus seine Vorzüge haben können. Nun brauchen wir gewiss nicht so viele Dateien (es gibt ja auch noch JPG Vorgänger-Versionen wie ich jetzt sah), deshalb meine ich schon dass man sich auf eine einigen sollte (was nun leider wieder mehr adminsistrative Arbeit mit sich bringt).
@Rillke: Ich gebe dir vollkommen Recht, leider scheint dein Kmt. wohl offensichtlich etwas falsch ausgelegt worden zu sein. GIF scheint wohl tatächlich die kleinsten Thumbs zu erzeugen, jedoch auch bei entsprechend geringerer Qualität. Was unter Umständen gewiss vertretbar wäre, so wie hier, da man zum Lesen eh die Datei aufrufen müsste. Diesen Umstand der Thumbgröße (zugunsten JPG/GIF) könnte man in den Empfehlungen ebenfalls erwähnen!?
@:Alchemist-hp: Relativ sinnfrei hier sarkastisch in die vermeintlich polemische Presche zu schlagen (zudem BMP hier erst gar nicht zugelassen)
-- Perhelion (talk) 15:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Bildbeschreibung[edit]

Hallo Ralf,

mir ist aufgefallen, dass beim Upload der Bilder Genehmigungs- und Supportbaustein in die Bildbeschreibung eingefügt wurden. Spricht etwas gegen die Form, wie in

Fehlt da nicht auch noch das eigentlich Lizenz-template?

Gruß, Anika (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Mir ist alles Recht ;) Die Bilder hat Conny mit meinem Account hochgeladen. --Ralf Roleček 14:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorbischer Burgwall[edit]

Hallo Ralf, ich habe mal nachgeschaut, wo der sorbische Burgwall genau ist, den wir am Samstag gesucht haben. Er ist nicht bei Arnoltice, sondern weiter westlich bei Loučna bei Višňová. Wir hätten also danach suchen sollen, als wir in Višňová waren. Grüße, --Michawiki (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Wir sind ja westlich gefahren, bis zum Verbotsschild. Naja, besser ein belangloses Bild eines Hügels als Chance verpaßt ;) --Ralf Roleček 12:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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Upps, Ralf. Scheinbar Fehleinstellung im Commonisten. Welche Lizenz(en) soll(en) nachgetragen werden? en: These files were uploaded with a wrong config, sorry - they will become a free license. Grüße, Conny (talk) 19:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC).

Das soll natürlich CC sein. Unfälle passieren halt. --Ralf Roleček 07:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Fixed :) . Conny (talk) 14:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC).
Danke. Hätte ich auch selbst gemacht aber ich war heute in Bratislava und Budapest, aussterbende Spezies fotografieren: Obusse von Skoda und Ikarus. Lange sieht man die nicht mehr im Straßenbild...--Ralf Roleček 21:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

Photographer Barnstar.png The Photographer's Barnstar
Guten Tag,

wir möchten darüber informieren, dass wir Dein/Ihr Bild (Wiki-Commons)

zum Blick auf den Tanvaldsky Spicak / Smržovka (CZ)

- selbstverständlich inklusive der Copyright-Hinweise und Urheber-Angaben - in unserem nicht-kommerziellen Projekt << FVKS-Kalender "Unterwegs" 2014 >> zum Thema „Ausblicke" verwenden.

>> http://www.kalender.fvks.eu

>> http://kalender.fvks.eu/2014/05/19/blick-auf-den-tanvaldsky-spicak-smržovka-cz/

Wir hoffen, alles korrekt umgesetzt zu haben.

Der Kalender begleitet auch unseren im Jahr 2014 laufenden Fotowettbewerb (fotowettbewerb.fvks.eu), ebenfalls zum Thema „Ausblicke".

Grüsse FVKS - Förderverein Kulturstadt Görlitz-Zgorzelec e.V. kalender@fvks.eu, Agata, Cornelia, Matthias

fvks (talk) 23:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Jetzt hat es mich auch erwischt...[edit]

... mit einem SVG-Wunsch... Ich habe das damals absichtlich als Bitmap in relativ geringer, wenn auch lesbarer Auflösung gebaut, weil das meines Wissens eine kommerzielle, keine freie Schrift ist bzw. zumindest damals nicht war. Wenn da jetzt einer eine Vektorversion baut - ist das dann illegales reverse engineering? -- Smial (talk) 22:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Eigentlich ist es so. Aber wir werden die jungen Herren nicht aufhalten, die wissen es besser. --Ralf Roleček 07:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hallo Ralf, sind die Löschanträge von Olaf auf einige deiner Europawahl-Fotos o.k.? --Túrelio (talk) 15:56, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Wie in der dateibeschreibung steht, das sind nur schnelle Uploads mit UMTS gewesen, die volle Auflösung habe ich später unter anderem Namen hochgeladen. Es ist ok, das sind Dubletten. ist mit Olaf abgesprochen. --Ralf Roleček 16:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Ralf, sag mal, hast du eine Ahnung was mit Smial los ist? Er hat ja auch eine von deinen Dateien ungerechtfertigt bzw. BNS-absichtlich zur Löschung markiert. Sein Amoklauf[4] hat gestern nacht um 23:41 Uhr begonnen (Da könnte man ja fast auf dumme Ideen kommen). Jedenfalls, wenn er so weitermacht, bleibt kaum etwas anderes übrig als eine Sperre vorzuschlagen. --Túrelio (talk) 13:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Ich weiß nicht, was er bezweckt. Wenn es nicht Smial wäre, würde ich auch ein bißchen komisch reagieren. Aber er ist schon groß und wird wissen, was er macht. Das erschließt sich mir zwar momentan nicht aber das werden wir schon noch mitbekommen. Und mal ganz ehrlich.... ich habe schon wesentlich bescheuertere Aktionen hier gesehen, denen nach langer Diskussion stattgegeben wurde. Also aus meiner Sicht ist da kein Grund zur Sorge gegeben. --Ralf Roleček 13:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Sag mal, nur ne Frage: bist du dir sicher, dass du hier wirklich Markus Ferber fotografiert hast? Mir sieht das viel eher nach Michael Grosse-Brömer aus. --Jcornelius (talk) 14:26, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Ich habe keinen Schimmer, die Kategorisierung hat Olaf gemacht. Ich kann nur draufhalten und ablichten, wer mir wichtig erscheint. Ich habe kein Gedächtnis für sowas. --Ralf Roleček 14:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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gute besserung[edit]

ein paar minuten früher ;)

Wir sind hier ein paar Wikipedianer in Stuttgart mit Raboe.--Barbara Fischer (WMDE) (talk) 10:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Tztz, Rumtreiber! Ich bin brav in Berlin. Kann ja nicht standing unterwegs sein. --Ralf Roleček 13:14, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Haben Dir die Ohren geklingelt? Ich sprach über Dich und unsere Projekte, dann kam Neuwerk Fotos Deine Fotos und dann klar mal eben eine Nachricht geschrieben. Live und in Farbe. ;) Tschüß -- Ra Boe watt?? 19:47, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Stuttgart, Neuwerk...??? Ich steh auf dem Schlauch! --Ralf Roleček 10:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Also noch mal, ich erzählte dort, was wir Wikipedianer alles anstellen und gute Fotos zu bekommen, ich erzählte das man Inseln nur schlecht vom Schiff aus fotografieren kann und das man in die Luft gehen muss um gute Fotos zu bekommen. Barbara zeigte daraufhin den Artikel Neuwerk und Deine Bilder. Wir schauten Deine Bilder auf der BN an und da ich wusste das Du gerade nicht so gesund bist, hat Barbara gleich gezeigt wie man einen Nachricht verfasst und sendet :) Tschüß -- Ra Boe watt?? 01:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Re-edition of the Photowikimeetup in Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hello Ralf Roletschek! in the case that you are also visiting this year's Wikimania in London, you may be interested in attending the new edition of the photowikimeetup that took place in Hong Kong last year, and where you listed up. As the preparation is not yet settled, you are more than welcomed to take part in the discussion here. All the best, Poco2 17:42, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

¿Por qué no se puede escribir en un idioma razonable para mí? - Vale :-) --Ralf Roleček 13:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

en:File:Fotocollage crop.jpg[edit]

Hi, User:Ralf Roletschek, did you create this image? It would be nice to have a description added to it on the Photomontage page. I am quite sure not to be the only loving this picture to bits. Can it be uploaded over here? Lotje (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

This is based on own photos, this:[5] and own 3D-pictures from AutoCAD. --Ralf Roleček 15:31, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Unidentified lakes of Germany[edit]

Hallo, in der Kategorie sind grade nur Bilder von dir drin. Kannst du sie bitte durchgucken und mit genaueren Infos/Kategorien versehen? (Namen der Seen, Angaben zum Ort…) Gruß Holger1959 (talk) 22:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Das ist alles der Werbellinsee, ich habs umsortiert. --Ralf Roleček 07:05, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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Gruppenfoto London 2014 Österreicher[edit]

Hi, ich hätte den WB und den Kontrast korrigiert, darf ich es einfach drüber laden? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:14-08-10-wikimedia-at-london.jpg

lG --Hamster28 (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Aber klar doch, bin mit Ultrabook unterwegs, hab das nicht besser machen können. --Ralf Roleček 20:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Wochenendgruß[edit]

Hallo Ralf :-) aus den Augen bedeutet nicht gleichzeitig aus dem Sinn. Deshalb an Dich einen herzlichen --Gruß Tom (talk) 14:14, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Grüß dich, lange nicht geschrieben. Ich bin "da drüben" nur noch sporadisch mit Zweitaccount unterwegs, Artikel schreibe ich nicht mehr. --Ralf Roleček 15:28, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Moin Ralf[edit]

habe Dir eine Mail geschrieben. Ist die bei Dir im Spam-Filter hängengeblieben? Gruß --Matthias Süßen (talk) 17:05, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Hab grad geantwortet, bin gestern erst von einer längeren Reise zurück. --Ralf Roleček 18:36, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Entschuldige bitte. Ich wollte Dich nicht stressen. Vielen Dank für die Antwort. Habe an entsprechender Stelle mal nachgehakt. Gruß --Matthias Süßen (talk) 09:09, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Kein Problem! Wer mich nicht streßt, muß damit leben, daß ich sein Ansinnen übersehe, vergesse, .... ;) Alter Mann wird vergeßlich. --Ralf Roleček 09:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 startet in Kürze[edit]

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Hallo Ralf Roletschek,

in Kürze ist es wieder soweit. Der nun schon traditionelle Fotowettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments wird im September zum vierten Mal stattfinden. In ähnlicher Form hatte unlängst der Wettbewerb "Wiki Loves Earth" eine erfolgreiche Premiere. Zu allen bisherigen vier Wettbewerben haben seit 2011 gut 3000 unterschiedliche Teilnehmer (User) ihren Beitrag geleistet. Du warst dabei, und bist auch herzlich eingeladen, am bevorstehenden WLM-Wettbewerb wieder dabei zu sein.

Allein in Deutschland wurden in den letzten drei Jahren im Rahmen von WLM rund 100.000 Fotos zu den insgesamt ca. 850.000 Kulturdenkmalen bundesweit hochgeladen. Jährlich haben sich mehrere Hundert Wiki-Fotographen daran beteiligt. Auch im kommenden Denkmalmonat wird dies gewiss wieder der Fall sein. Der Tag des offenen Denkmals am 14. September bietet bundesweit vielfältige Möglichkeiten, Denkmale nicht nur von außen, sondern auch von innen zu fotografieren. Denkmallisten sind dabei ein wichtiger Orientierungspunkt und zugleich auch Ziel der Einbindung der Fotos. Auch in diesem Jahr sind wieder neue Denkmallisten hinzugekommen, die hilfreich bei der Planung von individuellen oder Gruppen-Fototouren sind und auf eine Bebilderung warten, wie z.B. zu Görlitz oder Zittau. Unter den Landeshauptstädten fehlt nur noch Stuttgart. Aber auch hier ist Licht in Sicht.

In der Mitte Deutschlands hat die Denkmallandschaft der thüringischen Landeshauptstadt Erfurt nun das Licht der Wikipedia-Welt entdeckt. Mehr als 50 Tabellen enthalten 3.700 Denkmale. Allein die wunderschön restaurierte Altstadt umfasst 1.800 Denkmale. Eine von WMDE geförderte WLM-Fototour nach Erfurt am Wochenende vom 29. – 31. August lädt herzlich ein, diese einzigartige Kulturlandschaft zu dokumentieren. Mehr Informationen findest Du auf der Projektseite.

Wir freuen uns auf Deine weiteren Beiträge für Wikimedia-Projekte.

Viel Spaß beim größten Fotowettbewerb der Wiki(m/p)edia wünscht Dir das Orga-Team.

( Bernd Gross, 16. August 2014)

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Frage[edit]

Hallo Ralf, in Deutschland gilt doch das gleiche Recht wie in Österreich, oder? Konkret: Ein "dauerhafte Bild im öffentlichen Raum" unterliegt keinem Copyright, oder? Vgl.: [6]. - Bwag (talk) 07:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Ich halte das für einen Grenzfall, der von Gerichten durchaus unterschiedlich beurteilt werden könnte. Mein nichtjuristischer Gedanke dazu: Die Abbildung der gesamten Gedenktafel mit etwas Umgebung, auch mit dem begleitenden Text, sollte hinsichtlich der Panoramafreiheit unkritisch sein. Allerdings könnte der Text selbst urheberrechtlich geschützt sein, die Fotografie ist es ganz sicher, denn das Original, das da ausgestellt wird, sieht nicht nach einer einfachen Reproduktion aus. Die Frage stellt sich nun, ob solch ein Foto überhaupt unter eine Lizenz gestellt werden kann, die beliebige Nachbearbeitungen erlaubt, mithin, wie geschehen, auch einen Zuschnitt auf das Foto alleine zuläßt. Offensichtlich ist der Zuschnitt ja auch genau deshalb angefertigt worden, um aus einer irgendwo gefundenen sicherlich geschützten Fotografie eine "frei lizenzierte" zu generieren. Ich denke daher, daß andere Rechte hier schwerer wiegen und die "Panoramafreiheit" als Alibi nicht ausreicht. -- Smial (talk) 13:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Das österreichische Urheberrecht ist bezüglich Panoramafreiheit das liberalste der Welt. Siehe dazu Hundertwasserentscheidung. Ich sehe im Beispiel kein Problem, handhabe das selbst so: File:2010-03-20-mauer-berlin-by-RalfR-09.jpg. Nur das "bleibend" muß erfüllt sein, also nach geltender Rechtssprechung "auf Lebenszeit". Zeitlich begrenzte Kunstaktionen wie Christos Rechstagsverhüllung fallen in keinem Land darunter. Ob das Dargestellte selbst geschütztes Kunstwerk ist, muß uns nicht interessieren. Ob Text, Foto oder Gemälde - wer das bleibend im öffentlichen Raum (D) oder irgendwo (AT) aufstellt, muß wissen, was er tut. Wir als Fotografen dürfen es jedenfalls veröffentlichen. --Ralf Roleček 22:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
"[Es] müssen zwei Grundsätze beachtet werden. Bei der Vervielfältigung des Werkes darf das Urheberpersönlichkeitsrecht nicht verletzt werden. Dies bedeutet zum einen, dass der Urheber grundsätzlich einen Anspruch auf Namensnennung hat, insbesondere wenn der Name am Werk angebracht ist oder sich leicht ermitteln lässt und dass die Werke nicht entstellt vervielfältigt werden dürfen." - da stellt sich durchaus die Frage, ob das herausgecroppte Foto eine "Entstellung" des Werks "Infotafel" ist und wie das denn so mit der Urhebernennung funktioniert. -- Smial (talk) 11:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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Image Usage - Lamborghini Miura[edit]

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No facebook: Schutzrechtberühmung?[edit]

Das sehe ich in deinem "no facebook"-Kasten. Was ist das denn? Ich nehme an, das ist nur ein Fipptehler. :-) --RokerHRO (talk) 14:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Neee, das ist kein Fiptehla. Guck mal auf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzrechtsberühmung --Ralf Roleček 15:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ralf, I hope it is OK to address you in English. Your "no facebook" banner caught my attention as well, and I am very curious about the licensing terms that make it unacceptable to upload to that site. But I don't see anything specific to Facebook on the page you linked. Could you explain a bit further? (I expect that others would like to see a more detailed explanation, if it exists, linked from the banner itself.) Thanks for any clarification! -Pete F (talk) 18:55, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Excuse me please, my english is very bad. I hope,you understand my words ;) If you upload a photo to Facebook, you give Facebook the Rights of the Picture. But this is only possible with PD, not with Free Licenses. Only the photographer can give Rights to Facebook. CC and GFDL are incompatible with Facebook. --Ralf Roleček 19:15, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, of course -- I should have thought of that. Your English is perfect, by the way. I think it would be helpful to create a short page (maybe at Facebook or Commons:Facebook) that explains that, and link to it from your banner. I might use the banner myself if there is a page to link to. If you don't object I will create the page. -Pete F (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
I don't understand, how works a template with more than one language. Can you create this very simple with english and german? I can do the rest. --Ralf Roleček 19:01, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
I think so, I will give it a try and let you know. -Pete F (talk) 21:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, Ralf ! As there was a problem on Monday with your signature on the QIC page, I received your Flytoget as a QI of mine this morning. So I give to Caesar what is Caesar's' :). Congrats and cheers. --JLPC (talk) 08:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --Ralf Roleček 08:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, schreib' mal, was steht'n da File:Refreshable Braille display.jpg? Vgl w:de:Talk:Braillezeile#Alternativtext für das Bild Kays (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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Please give images better names[edit]

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I noticed you've uploaded File:14-08-00-wlm-es-RalfR-06.jpg and I thought I should draw your attention to a common error.

Please give uploaded images meaningful names. Otherwise they are difficult to track and it is hard to tell what the image is about without actually looking at it. I suggest you rename your image with an intuitive name that describes the image itself. Thanks, and happy editing!

In this case, while I accept the name gives the date and that it was one of your WLM photos, it gives no information as to what it's actually a photo of. Please, your names are usually at least a bit better than this.-mattbuck (Talk) 21:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Nobody needs a second description in the filename. This File have description in 3 languages. --Ralf Roleček 07:48, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
And that is wonderful, but filenames still need to be at least somewhat descriptive of what they depict, even if it's vague like "London" or "Cats". That makes life easier for reusers on other projects. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Filenames are technical things. Filenames no need description if the file have a description. A name so as "DSC012345.jpg" is no better or worse then a filename with descriptions. Nobody need this. --Ralf Roleček 12:06, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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was ist dir denn mit dem und dem passiert? 800 ISO und Farbrauschen, das ist verständlich (erschreckend trotzdem, mMn.) - aber dasselbe auch hier. Schau dir den Übergang zw. Wald und Himmel an. Ich hab übrigens die Bilder umbenannt, damit der Mattbuck nix zu jammern hat. Aber ich kann nicht eines davon promoten!--Hubertl (talk) 10:04, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Erstmal sorry, daß ich mich noch nicht gemeldet habe. Ich habe in Wien flachgelegen und befinde mich momentan auch in der Waagerechten, der Marsch durch den Regen war doch zu viel. Ich hab den Eindruck, daß ich nicht mehr 20 bin ;)
Die Bilder sind HDR, weil die Jurys von WLM sowas lieben. Das ist alles. Da ich HDR noch nicht ordentlich beherrsche, kommt so ein Murks dabei heraus. --Ralf Roleček 10:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Eifo[edit]

Hallo Ralf, hier gibt's neue Erkenntnisse zu diesem Eifo, nach dem du mal gefragt hattest. --Eike sauer (talk) 15:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Danke :-) --Ralf Roleček 17:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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IP-Identität[edit]

ich bin momentan 2.207.231.101 --Ralf Roleček 22:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Barcelona photos. Are you sure they are from 1993?[edit]

Ralf, at the image File:1993-07-barcelona-RalfR-27.jpg we can see the en:Porta d’Europa bridge that was built in 2000. Therefore the image can not be from 1993. Can you confirm the approx date of all the images you have uploaded under the name "1993-07-barcelona...." ? Thanks.--Jordiferrer (talk) 23:37, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Lo siento, de verdad. Unos de los photos son de 2003. --Ralf Roleček 12:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
ok, thanks! --Jordiferrer (talk) 17:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Damit du nicht überrascht bist:[edit]

neue Regeln seit einer Woche, 5 Nominierungen/Tag auf QI.--Hubertl (talk) 14:19, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Regeln, Regeln, Regeln.... das vergeht einem wirklich. Bin dann mal draußen. Mir war ja nur das wichtig: Category:Quality images by Ralf Roletschek/WM-AT 2014. --Ralf Roleček 14:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Umgebinde in Saxony by municipalities[edit]

Hallo Ralf, das ist eine Kategorie, in der sich nur Unterkategorien befinden sollten und daher ganz sicher die falsche Kategorie für Deine Bilder. Sortiere Deine Bilder doch bitte in die richtigen Unterkategorien ein. Insbesondere bitte ich Dich, Deinen Bildern sinnvolle Beschreibungen mitzugeben. Wenn, wie bei File:14-05-02-Umgebindehaeuser-RalfR-DSC 0570-297.jpg, aus der Beschreibung nicht einmal hervorgeht, in welchem Ort das Bild gemacht wurde, ist es kaum sinnvoll für einen edukativen Zweck nutzbar. Beachte bitte auch, dass in einer Kategorie "Umgebinde in ..." auch Umgebinde zu sehen sein sollte. Etliche Deiner Bilder in Category:Umgebinde in Saxony by municipalities zeigen allerdings Ziegelmauern (File:14-05-02-Umgebindehaeuser-RalfR-DSC 0508-235.jpg), Ackerflächen (File:14-05-02-Umgebindehaeuser-RalfR-DSC 0511-238.jpg), Traktoren (File:14-05-02-Umgebindehaeuser-RalfR-DSC 0574-301.jpg) usw., die absolut nichts mit Umgebinde zu tun haben. Korrigiere das bitte! Gruß, -- Ies (talk) 10:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Commons ist eine Sammlung mit freien Medien und hat nichts mit Bildung zu tun. Und Kategorien haben mich noch nie interessiert. Wenn jemand Spaß daran hat, Kategorien herumzuschuppsen, dann soll er es machen. Ich halte sie für überflüssig.
Meine Bilder sind nur deshalb überhaupt in einer Kat., weil mich mal jemand darum gebeten hat, mir irgendeine halbwegs sinnvolle Kat. rauszusuchen, den Rest macht schon jemand Anderes. Solange Kategorien englisch sind, finde ich ja nichtmal was Passendes, wenn ich suchen würde.
Meine ersten 1.000 Bilder hier waren noch ohne Lizenzbaustein, die ersten 10.000 ohne Kategorie. Und die warden auch fleißig weitergenutzt, also auch gefunden. Ziel bei WP:Neiße war es, möglichst große Mengen an Bildern zu machen, möglichst viele Hauser zu fotografieren. Es war nicht Ziel, möglichst perfekt beschriftete Bilder hochzuladen. --Ralf Roleček 10:50, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Du scheinst hier einige grundsätzliche Dinge nicht verstanden zu haben. Hier gibt es Regeln, die für alle gelten und nach denen auch Du Dich zu richten hast.
  • Commons hat einen Projektrahmen. Jeder Beitrag muss tatsächlich nützlich für einen edukativen Zweck sein. Lese nach!
  • "Die Kategoriestruktur ist die bevorzugte Methode, Dateien auf Commons zu organisieren und zu finden. Es ist sehr wichtig, dass jede Datei in dieser Struktur gefunden werden kann. Um das zu ermöglichen, muss jede Datei direkt einer Kategorie zugeordnet werden und/oder in einer Galerieseite erscheinen, die ihrerseits kategorisiert ist. Jede Kategorie muss selbst kategorisiert sein, so dass sich eine hierarchische Struktur (ähnlich wie ein Stammbaum) ergibt". Hier nachzulesen: Commons:Kategorien.
Auch WP:Neiße scheinst Du völlig falsch verstanden zu haben. Niemand hat etwas davon, möglichst große Mengen an Bildern zu machen, möglichst viele Hauser zu fotografieren. Das ist einfach nur Unfug. Ganz sicher war Ziel, möglichst perfekt beschriftete Bilder hochzuladen, denn nur das mach Sinn ist im Einklang mit den hier geltenden Regeln.
Respektiere bitte die hier geltenden Regeln!

-- Ies (talk) 12:28, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Ich werde hier weiter so arbeiten wie ich das seit 10 Jahren mache. Und Kategorien gehören ganz bestimmt nicht dazu. Wenn du sie so toll findest, dann arbeite doch damit, ich behindere dich nicht dabei.
Ich kann natürlich auch alle Bilder kiryllisch, tschechisch oder catalá beschriften und kategorisieren, dann habe ich wenigstens Ruhe. Von den Häusern kommen nur noch 10, der Rest ist dann nicht mehr Deutsch. --Ralf Roleček 13:04, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Hier gehen einige Dinge durcheinander. @Ralf: Trotzig aufstampfen bringt gar nichts. Ich halte die Kategorien als Ordnungssystem in einer Bilderdatenbank ebenfalls für ausgemachten Blödsinn. Dummerweise ein derart etablierter Blödsinn, daß sich nur wenige Uploader die Mühe machen, eine ordentliche Bildbeschreibung abzuliefern, aus der man strukturierte Daten gewinnen könnte. Irgendeine halbwegs passende Kategorie gewählt, und man kann eine ganze Bilderserie bequemerweise mit "Haus in $Name_der_Stadt" beschreiben. Aber gut, bessere Verfahren werden auch von keinem der Softwarehelferlein unterstützt. Trotzdem finde ich es gegenüber den anderen Mitarbeitern hier, die sich mit Verwaltungsaufgaben abrackern, sehr unfair, gar nichts zu machen oder offensichtlich unpassende Cats zu wählen. Soviel Arbeit ist das nu auch wieder nicht. Wenn ich auf Anhieb nichts passendes finde, lege ich einfach eine neue Cat an. Die ist dann zwar erstmal rot, aber das stört zunächst nicht. Dann kann ich alle zusammengehörigen Bilder shcon mal darin sammeln. Anschließend suche ich mir zu der roten Cat eine passende Oberkategorie, trage die dort ein und bin fertig damit. Wenn die neue Cat dann irgendwelchen mir unbekannten Namenskonventionen widerspricht oder sich mit einer überschneidet, die ich halt nicht gefunden habe - DAS kann die Katverwaltung dann übernehmen, für die ist das oft nur ein Klacks. Sehe ich ja immer wieder in der Beobachtungsliste, wenn beispielsweise jemand aus meiner Einordnung "Rock Musiker" einen "Rock Gitarristen aus England" plus "Rocksänger aus England" macht. Aber das ist nur dann ein Klacks, wenn für die JungZ und MädelZ wenigstens ansatzweise erkennbar ist, worum es geht. Deshalb: Bilder beim Upload grüppchenweise thematisch zusammenfassen und in interpretierbare Kats schuppsen. Das geht auch, wenn man einige hundert Bilder im Batch hochladen will. Notfalls die Kat rot lassen, auch sowas wird von Bots gefunden, markiert und in eine Wartungsseite geschuppst.
Was die Nachnutzungen angeht: Zumindest bei meinen anderweitig, also außerhalb der Wikipedia nachgenutzten Bildern ist es so, daß die sicherlich zu 97.1415926% über Einbindungen in Artikeln gefunden wurden. Der Rest vermutlich per Bildersuche auf Google. Wer auf commons Bilder über den Kategorienbaum sucht, der wird auch versuchen, die Erde zu drehen, um eine Glühlampe einzuschrauben. Allerdings: Wenn Bilder halbwegs sinnvoll kategorisiert sind, findet der Nachnutzer über das im WP-Artikel eingebundene Foto bzw. über die Vorlage commonscat relativ einfach Alternativen. Landet der aber in einer überlaufenen Oberkategorie oder in einem wilden thematischen Durcheinander, wird er sich wohl mit Grausen abwenden.
@ies: Auch schlecht kategorisierte Bilder können tatsächlich nützlich für einen edukativen Zweck sein. Das ist eine Frage des Bildinhalts, nicht der korrekten Kategorisierung. Verwaltung und Inhalte nicht vermischen. Daß das Kategoriensystem "die bevorzugte Methode" ist, wundert nicht, denn es gibt (gab bisher) keine sinnvolle andere Methode auf commons. Wenn man nur eine hat, ist die latürnich bevorzugt gegenüber "gar nichts machen". Ansonsten kann man sich auch im Zustand der ärgerlichen Erregung durchaus eines freundlichen Umgangstons befleißigen. Wenn mir einer mit "Du hast dich an bla und foo zu halten!!!" käme, wäre ich auch pampig. Mit Überzeugungsarbeit mag manches länger dauern und mühsamer sein, als mit dem Regelbuch zu wedeln und sich im Recht zu fühlen, dafür ist's meistens deutlich nachhaltiger. -- Smial (talk) 13:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Ralf, hab grade über den Umweg von Category:Smržovka luge track auch diese Kategorie entdeckt. Kannst du wenigstens sagen ob deine Geodaten stimmen? (ist bei manchen Leuten/Kameras nicht immer der Fall) dann würd ich die Bilder nämlich in passende Kategorien zu Tschechien packen. Du hast sie ja bei Sachsen/Deutschland einsortiert und die Koordinaten zeigen halt CZ-Orte.

Idee: Wenn du derart mit Kategorien und korrekten Beschreibungstexten auf dem Kriegsfuß stehst, dann wärs vielleicht besser du trägst bei sämtlichen deiner Uploads nur eine einzige Kategorie wie Category:Files by Ralf Roletschek needing identification/categorization oder so ein und überlässt das weitere anderen Usern. Aber offensichtlich falsche Infos/Einträge sind echt nicht toll und produzieren nur Mehrarbeit. Holger1959 (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Mir ist es egal, meinetwegen können die Fotos Kategorien haben, die sie möchten. Wir sind an dem Tag in Deutschland, Polen und der Tschechei gewesen, haben mehrmals die Grenze überfahren. Es hat zwar geregnet aber der GPS müßte eigentlich gut gearbeitet haben, wie ich das stichprobenhaft rauserkenne. --Ralf Roleček 16:22, 1 December 2014 (UTC) Bei diesem Foto ist die Genauigkeit etwa 1 Meter.
das ist doch ne Aussage, danke. Vielleicht überlegst du für zukünftige Uploads ja auch noch Mal wegen so einer eigenen "User-Kategorie zum Abarbeiten" (anstatt sowas wie es mit "Umgebinde in Saxony by municipalities" passiert ist). Holger1959 (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Das gibt garantiert den nächsten Streß aber wir können es ja mal so machen --Ralf Roleček 12:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Angesichts dessen, was Smial schreibt, werde ich mal probeweise eine Zwischenlösung versuchen. Mal guggn, welchen Bilderberg ich als nächsten bearbeite. --Ralf Roleček 10:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Mit Wikidata soll ja alles besser werden. Ich hoffe nur, daß das für uns doofe Knipser aka Nicht-Informatiker verständlich und handhabbar wird und daß die diversen Uploadformulare und -programme das sinnvoll unterstützen. Ich habe schon Stunden bei Kategorisierungsversuchen verbraten und kann durchaus verstehen, daß da nicht jeder Bock drauf hat. Nur: den Kategorisierungsfachleuten die Arbeit absichtlich zu erschweren, das finde ich nicht ok. -- Smial (talk) 11:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Zum nächsten Workshop in Nurnberg sind die beiden Federführenden von Wikidata eingeladen. Ich denke, man muß rechtzeitig miteinander redden, bevor Kinder in den Brunnen purzeln. Und das sehen sie ebenso. --Ralf Roleček 11:43, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Ein erster Versuch: Category:Helsinki/unsortiert. Ich habe das nun erstmal auch nirgends einsortiert, korrekt? Lade grad 24 Bilder hoch. --Ralf Roleček 19:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Das du "unsortiert" in Zusammenhang zu Helsinki bringst finde ich gut. Denn Category:Files by Ralf Roletschek needing identification/categorization, wäre eine Kategorie von Hunderten, irgendwann vielleicht mal tausenden Bildern geworden. In die kaum einer nachschaut und sortiert. Du solltest jedoch solche Category:Helsinki/unsortiert auch erstellen und in die Oberkategorie Category:Helsinki packen. Damit die "unsortiert" Kategorien auch gesehen werden. Jedoch wäre es besser, wenn du sie "unsorted" benennst, da deutsch nicht so verbreitet ist. Wenn du die Kategorie nicht erstellen willst (kannst) und nicht in die Oberkat packst, dann nimm gleich die Oberkat, hier beim Beispiel Category:Helsinki.
Die etwa 600 Bilder sind jetzt in:
Keine Ahnung, ob das der Weisheit letzter Schluß ist.... Die 3 Kategorien sind unter Helsinki verlinkt. --Ralf Roleček 09:53, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Und prompt wird auf QIC rumgemault, mir reichts. --Ralf Roleček 12:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Lightroom 2015 in CUX[edit]

Moin Ralf, Förderantrag ist hier. Der Plan ist, das im Frühjahr zu machen, aber es soll natürlich nicht mit Nürnberg kollidieren, da wir beide ja nicht an zwei Orten gleichzeitig sein können :-) . Nur erstmal zur werten Info. Gruß Wolfgang --Pankoken (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, danke dir. --Ralf Roleček 18:05, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Magst dich vielleicht dazu äußern?[edit]

Das wäre meiner Meinung nach eine mögliche Lösung eines Problems, welches von den Knipsern überhaupt nicht verstanden wird. Falls du noch andere Leute kennst, die Sportaufnahmen machen, dann bitte informiere sie. --Hubertl (talk) 16:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Ein Fork "Hochwertige Action-Fotografie" mit entsprechendem Bapperl wird genauso totlaufen wie jeder andere Fork auch. Die QI-Leute verweisen eh längst auf VI. Aber VIC leidet jetzt schon an einem unsäglichen Interface und mangelnder Beteiligung. Wenn man unbedingt ein Bapperl will, geht das sinnvoll nur über FP und QI. In die QI-Kriterien gehört eine Erweiterung rein, die den Rauschpixelzählern die Argumente entzieht, z.B. irgendwas mit "den Aufnahmebedingungen angemessene Kameraeinstellungen". Das Hauptproblem bei QIC ist jedoch, dass dort seit längerem verschiedenste Leute um die Luft-, äh, Deutungshoheit kämpfen. Das war nicht so, als mich MBDortmund dammalZ einlud, mich dort zu beteiligen, da wurden erfahrene Fotografen gesucht, um dem Antragsstau Herr zu werden - und es lief auf Vertrauensbasis mit nur ganz wenigen Kommentaren/Reviews. Alleine schon, dass jedes dritte, vierte Bild heutzutage nicht etwa entweder direkt pro oder decline erhält, sondern es beinahe zur Regel wurde, erst einmal Kleinkram zu bemängeln, versemmelt den ganzen Ablauf. Wenn ich schon "needs perspective correction" lese, kriege ich mittlerweile die Krise. Bei Bühnenfotos. Die ja von den Umständen her eine gewisse Ähnlichkeit mit Sport haben, nur bei idR noch deutlich mieseren Beleuchtungsverhältnissen. -- Smial (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Falls ich überhaupt noch bei QI mitmache, dann, weil ich es einer Dame in Wien versprochen habe. Die Pixelzählerei und vor allem das gnadenlose Geradeverzerren gehen mir so gehörig auf den Senkel, daß ich eigentlich keine Lust mehr habe. --Ralf Roleček 13:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Zumal dort anscheinend keiner der Senkrechtzerrer verstanden hat, daß das Verfahren zwangsläufig mit einer Bildverkleinerung einhergehen muß, da die hinzuerfundenen Pixel Unschärfen verursachen. Je stärker entzerrt, desto mehr. Viele Kommentare dort klingen mir doch sehr nach "Herr Lehrer, ich weiß was!!!!" - nur nix richtig. Der eine verlangt, wie Hubertl ganz richtig erkannt hat (wobei er aber nicht etwa der Erste wäre...), rauschfreie Bilder unter allen Bedingungen, der andere stets absolute Senkrechten, der Dritte findet CA in mikroskopischer Vergrößerung, der Vierte sieht in den EXIF Daten einer Kompaktkamera ("Tonne!!!"). Ganz grotesk wird es bei den Gestaltungsfragen. Sänger mit Mikrofon: Mund verdeckt! Sänger ohne Mikrofon: Störender Mikrofonständer im Bild!! Sänger/Gitarrist/Trommler eigentlich perfekt getroffen, aber im Hintergrund sieht man schemenhaft schräg stehende Bühnentechnik: needs perspective correction. Horizont nach Drittelregel unten positioniert: Zuviel Himmel!. Horizont in der Mitte: Langweilig!! Horizont im oberen Drittel: Zuviel störender Vordergrund!!! Sportler mit f/2.8@ISO 400: Zuwenig Tärfenschiefe. Sportler mit f/5.6@ISO3200: Zuviel Rauschen! Rauschen glattgebügelt: Blurred, zu wenig Details!
Aber wehe, man entdeckt bei den Platzhirschen Schlampereien, dann wird aus allen Rohren geschossen. Mattbuck nehme ich dabei ausdrücklich aus, der haut zwar gelegentlich auch bei Beurteilungen daneben, aber nimmt Kritik gewöhnlich unaufgeregt zur Kenntnis. -- Smial (talk) 19:33, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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