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Commons discussion pages (index)

Forgot one image[edit]

I'm searching for one Commons image I've seen last year. It's a photo of a standing young girl (between 18 and 28) looking at viewer at three-quarter length (roughly to her knee level) in transparent stockings in a bar or club-like setting somewhere in Germany. The girl is slightly smiling and is holding some kind of booklet or sheets. The prevalent colors on photo are brown, chestnut and black. The filename and the file description were in German, possibly with English translation. I've already checked categories like 21st-century portrait photographs of women at three-quarter length, Photographs of women in Germany, Photos of people in stockings, Women looking at viewer, but with no result. I had a strong impression of having it on my Wikipedia talkpage, but didn't find it there either. Could someone help to pinpoint? Thanks in advance. Brandmeister (talk) 23:28, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Sorry, but this is a tall ask; have you checked your browser's internet history? ColonialGrid (talk) 15:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
    • That predates my refreshed browser history. Maybe I'll find it some day, but have no clues other than my wiki talkpage... Strange thing. Brandmeister (talk) 22:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC) Nevermind, found it. Brandmeister (talk) 22:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Lost of image[edit]

Who can help me, because, I would move the image File:Krippe4736.JPG to File:ApfelkuchenmitKaffee4736.jpg beccause the name is false completely. But only the description was moved, not the file itself. Thx a lot --K@rl (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The file appears to already have been moved. Try clicking on the link "purge the server's cache" on the destination page. I've taken the liberty of adding a colon to the file link above because otherwise Commons would soon start showing the picture itself, at 100% resolution, on this page, flooding the whole page with the picture. JIP (talk) 19:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your help--K@rl (talk) 20:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

UploadWizard problem[edit]

I just uploaded 33 pictures I had taken at a French Cabaret Show in Helsinki, Finland in last December, after getting permission from the casino staff. Since there were so many, I used UploadWizard instead of the old upload form I normally use. UploadWizard failed to show me a thumbnail of any of the pictures, so I added the descriptions and categories going by the order they appeared in on the directory where I uploaded them from. However, UploadWizard didn't upload them in this order, causing most of the descriptions and categories to go all wrong. I had to fix them by hand. Why didn't UploadWizard upload the images in the order they appeared in when I selected them? Why couldn't UploadWizard show me thumbnails? The pictures themselves seem to have uploaded OK. And if this happens, is there any easier way to solve it than what I did now? JIP (talk) 19:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Scanned Photos from a book[edit]

I want to upload photos scanned from a book, if I mentioned the book name, author, and photographer name (if applicable) and photo date, will that be enough as permission? and if so under which license should i upload them?

The photos are about Kuwaiti old buildings, professions, and tools.

Thanks Kuwaitpedia1 (talk) 12:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Commons only hosts media that are either freely licenced or in the public domain (PD). You would have to check that the photos from the book are either released under a free licence or PD in Kuwait and the US. When was the book published, and what countries was it published in? ColonialGrid (talk) 15:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Adding a file[edit]

So,there is this picture in and according to the licensing,it is in the public domain,but it does not exist in question is this,am I allowed to upload that picture from wikipedia to wikimedia and license it as in the public domain?Here is the file, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixious6 (talk • contribs)

How do I know if a file can be used under these fair-use provisions,because it is quite difficult to gain copyright permission from a dead holder.

  • You'd need permission from their heir(s). And, for what it's worth, typically you can't get permission to release someone else's copyrighted work. Most people's work is not available for reuse. - Jmabel ! talk 21:46, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

File from ruwiki[edit]

I transferred File:Onexim logo.gif from ruwiki to here because it had a PD tag on ruwiki. After I transferred it, it says it may be eligible for speedy deletion because it says it's a fair use file, but the tags say it's public domain. Did I do something wrong in the transfer of should it be deleted? --AmaryllisGardener talk 16:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Update: Taivo removed a Russian tag that oddly meant "fair use". I guess the problem's solved. Thank you Taivo, I thought I looked at the tags. --AmaryllisGardener talk 16:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Freedom to Contribute to the Public?[edit]

My contributions have been deleted based on a claim that original work can not be submitted, but the Wikimedia page that displays before uploading a file clearly states that I am allowed to submit my own original work. If there was any other reason for deleting my contributions, I may be able to understand the reason, but again, the reason provided is not an acceptable justification, because I am within the guidelines.

I've attempted reload my files, but now I get an error saying that a similar document has been deleted in the past. The files that I'm attempting to upload are for educational purposes. They were uploaded to be available for public use, but I suspect that the request to delete my contributions came from someone hoping to steal the material and hide the evidence.

I have found Wikipedia contributions that could be considered cyber bullying or something closer to a gossip column, and the last time I checked, these were not deleted. I don't understand why there is such a barrier to share academic work online, and no barrier to share non-sense or vulgarity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Leach (talk • contribs)

Wikimedia Commons is not a project for your text contributions. See Commons:Project_scope#Excluded_educational_content. --Martin H. (talk) 01:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Uploading photos from my company' website[edit]

I have created an article about proprietary technology of our company and would like to upload photos from our company's website. What do I need to do to be able to upload these photos? prefix:Commons:Help desk/Archive — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallmino (talk • contribs)

  • Unless the photos on the website are accompanied by free licence tags (which I suspect they aren't), you should follow the procedures at COM:OTRS and send permissions through. However, please make sure that this is done by someone who has the authority within your business to release IP under a free licence. Also, if editing on a project like English Wikipedia it is probably good to keep en:WP:COI in mind (although that doesn't matter at Commons). ColonialGrid (talk) 14:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

What to do with this image?[edit]

I found this image in the category Category:Lobster dishes. It used to show some kind of lobster dish, but then someone uploaded a new image over it, showing two guitar cases, with the comment "Filipino folk singer". Now the original description and the categorisation are all wrong, and possibly the EXIF metadata too. The image isn't used anywhere. What can I do to clear this confusion? JIP (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Reverted and moved to File:Lobster dish.jpg. Regards, Yann (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Correct category for cabaret[edit]

I recently uploaded 33 pictures of a cabaret show after getting permission from the organisers. I'd like to move them to a country-specific category under Category:Cabaret. But should I move them to Category:Cabarets in France (because the performers were French) or Category:Cabarets in Finland (which doesn't exist yet) (because the show was located in Finland)? JIP (talk) 18:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

  • 33 photos is enough that you might want to give this a category of its own, which could be a subcategory of both. - Jmabel ! talk 00:55, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
    • I decided to only create the category Category:Cabaret in Finland and move the images there, because there is no need to create a category just to create one subcategory for it. I first named it "Cabarets in Finland" but then moved it to "Cabaret in Finland" because I know of no dedicated cabaret venues in Finland, this was a French cabaret held at a generic entertainment venue in Finland. Except for France, all the subcategories of Category:Cabaret by country seem to be named in the singular anyway. Should I submit Category:Cabarets in Finland (which should now be a redirect) for deletion? JIP (talk) 15:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
      • I would say so. - Jmabel ! talk 16:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
        • How do I go about submitting it for deletion? JIP (talk) 18:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
          • I'll just delete it. There are a bunch of ways to nominate a category for deletion: usually the simplest if you're not an admin is just to nominate it for "discussion" (you should have that in your left nav) and propose deletion in the discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 23:44, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

BiDi in a gallery[edit]

Hi, Wikipe-tan trifecta sign softend language.png has some other versions, the original (no text), the old Trifecta discussed in the jerks vs dicks RFC on Meta, {{#language:it}} rendered as italiano, and {{#language:ar}} rendered as العربية. I'm not sure about the latter, the caption is shown at the left side, for RTL I'd expect it to start at the right side. How can I get this right (pun intended) in a gallery? –Be..anyone (talk) 10:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Annotations are not visible[edit]

This image has annotations, but they are not visible: File:Cornelis_van_Haarlem_-_De_zondeval.jpg. --Bensin (talk) 12:15, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Seems like the same problem was fixed once before, and then someone changed the resolution of the image again without adjusting the annotations. LX (talk, contribs) 12:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
OK. Thank you for clarifing. I removed the annotations and re-added them. --Bensin (talk) 18:06, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Flagging pictures for searches[edit]

I run a poetry wiki of my own, where I use a lot of Commons files (and, in return, have uploaded a few here in return). I'm now starting to add the licensing information to the photos on my wiki. Tonight, in Commons, 2 of them did not come up in the search engine: poets John Thompson and William Irwin Thompson.

I was able to access both by going back to my wiki and using the link to the Commons file in the credit; but that wouldn't help someone else looking for either one. So I'm wondering if there's a way I can flag pages like that so that they'll show up better in searches. I know how to add new categories, but I don't know if it's considered OK or frowned on to add people's names as categories. If that's OK, I'll go ahead and do it; if not, though, is there something else I should do instead? 01:59, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

You can certainly create categories; just make sure to categorize them in turn with appropriate parents, because ‘orphan’ cats can’t be found by navigating the tree. For people, there are usually at least parent cats by location/citizenship, birthdate, and profession; have a browse through the relevant areas to find the most specific available. Otherwise, though, the search engine can usually find text in the description page, which you are also free to edit or expand. Could you provide links to the files that you couldn’t find with the search engine? If the string was anywhere on the file page, the pictures should have turned up; perhaps there’s an anomaly in the names or templates that should be fixed—if it wasn‘t just a server or browser hiccup … I also notice we already do have the category William Irwin Thompson, albeit containing just one photo.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 03:29, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the comprehensive reply, Odysseus. I can use the existing categories the files are in - Poets from Canada and Poets from the United States, and any others - as the parents. Should I delete those from the file pages at the same time?
I did a second search for the files, and found the William Irwin Thompson photo (which is the one I was searching for - perhaps I misspelled), so I'll leave it alone. The other one, for John Thompson, is - I think the problem may be that his name is written as one word - that's the type of situation I was worried about. George Dance (talk) 00:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, @George Dance, when files (or cats) are categorized, any categories they now ‘inherit‘ from further up the tree should generally be removed; see COM:OVERCAT.
Regarding the “John Thompson” search, I think the problem is that it’s such a common name. The photo did turn up when I tried, because the name is normally spaced in the description—but buried among more than a thousand other hits. Having read the page, when I searched for “John Thompson marsh” it came right to the top; even “Thompson marsh“ put it in the first 20-file page of results. Had the description read something like “John Thompson, Canadian poet, …“ it would have been equally easy to find with a keyword—still, categorization is better. If you do make a cat for him, it should be disambiguated with a name like John Thompson (poet), or perhaps a middle name or initial (if he used one).—Odysseus1479 (talk) 03:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. You've been very patient as well as very helpful. George Dance (talk) 01:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
@George Dance: you write that you are starting to add the licensing information to the photos on your wiki. That sounds like you are downloading files from Commmons and then upload to your own wiki locally? If your wiki runs on the Mediawiki software, you may want to have a look at mw:InstantCommons, which enables you to link to any file from Commons directly without the need to manually copy the file and it's licensing information etc. --El Grafo (talk) 11:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the information and the link. I'll take a look. George Dance (talk) 01:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

creating a new page[edit]

Hi, I am pretty new here as I have only been reviewing texts in Ligure (Ligurian language) so far. Now I want to start creating new pages for the first time, so my question is: if I take a page as an example (for instance in Italian) and consider it valid to make something similar in Ligurian/Genoese, may I copy pictures from the corresponding Italian page? May I copy the basic structure usually on the right indicating flag, nationality, inhabitants etc. ? Thanks in advance for your reply. Luensu2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luensu1959 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 23 March 2015‎ (UTC)

Did you mean to post this on a Wikipedia project? It sounds like what you are describing are Wikipedia articles with info boxes. Since Commons is all about collecting and organising media files (photos, diagrams, videos, audio recordings etc.), we don't really have that here. LX (talk, contribs) 17:47, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Creating a Wikipedia file[edit]

I am trying to create & build a Wikipedia file that contains both text and a photo. How do I upload those? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coltgrabber (talk • contribs) 20:58, 23 March 2015‎ (UTC)

It looks like you already figured out how to upload photos. Text content is generally outside the project scope of Wikimedia Commons (this site). For information on how to create articles on Wikipedia, see en:Wikipedia:Your first article over on English Wikipedia (or follow the language links on that page to corresponding pages on whichever language edition of Wikipedia you prefer). LX (talk, contribs) 21:05, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Create an article about a book[edit]

I have permission from an author to create an article about his book with his sources.

How do I go about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrieolus (talk • contribs)

@Carrieolus: Hi,
1. You are here on Wikimedia Commons, which is project for hosting multimedia files. Articles belong to Wikipedia. I suppose you mean an article in English language, so it belongs to here.
2. You don't really need a permission from the author to write an article about a book, only to host documents which are not your own (book covers, etc.). You first need to ensure that the book meets the requirements of notability. See en:Wikipedia:Notability (books). Regards, Yann (talk) 08:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Commons Glossary[edit]

Greetings: I was asked if Commons has a glossary of terms and abbreviations all in one place, similar to or . I searched, but was unable to find them on a list like that here on Commons to answer the user on my talk page. Please help? Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Our version of en:Wikipedia:List of shortcuts would be Commons:Shortcuts. It's probably incomplete, so you might want to have a look at pages that transclude {{shortcut}}[1] or {{shortcut2}}[2]. I don't know if we have a glossary, but we probably don't use quite as much jargon as on English Wikipedia. Some of it might be spillover from there, though, so their list is probably a good place to start. LX (talk, contribs) 20:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Not specifically about shortcuts or abbreviations, but might be useful to you anyway: COM:Editor's index to Commons.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!! Great references, thanks for the help!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:20, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Images silently removed?[edit]

Only by accident I noticed that two images I uploaded recently were removed from the enwiki article on Waveform graphics. I cannot find them in my uploads page, and they have been robot delinked from the article. The argument was that no ORTS was filed, but both had been filed. Neither my account on enwiki or here received any notification that this was about to happen. Any explanations? Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

After OTRS is received the images will be restored. So, do not worry. You can ask one of OTRS agents to check the OTRS queue for you. Ruslik (talk) 19:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm guessing this is about File:VT105 graph.jpg and File:VT105 histogram.jpg. Looking at Google's cached copy of the latter, it looks like they were tagged with {{OTRS received}}, indicating that what you sent in wasn't sufficient proof of the copyright holder releasing the work into the public domain. Any follow-up that would serve as notification would probably have taken place via e-mail. LX (talk, contribs) 19:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, this are the images in question. But going through my mail I don't see any replies, and given that the person very clearly released them as PD I'm not sure what more they could ask for. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
You can ask a volunteer with access to the correspondence to look into it at the OTRS noticeboard. LX (talk, contribs) 00:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
It is Ticket:2015020510013409 processed by Sphilbrick. It is a forwarded mail in informal form: "I, Martin Wölz, agree to release the two images of VT105 graphics sent to Maury Markowitz into the public domain." Please ask the author to use a formal format and mail directly to permissions mentioning this ticket number in subject line. Also give attention to Commons:Email_templates#Note #1. Jee 02:38, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Copyright status of government maps made in Taiwan and Japan[edit]

I understand that photos and maps made in the United States by government officials as part of their duties are public domain. Does that also apply to other governments? I have some maps made in the 1970's by the government of Taiwan and the government of Japan. Do you think that they are public domain?CurtisNaito (talk) 16:38, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The answer is no, works produced by governments are usually copyrighted like any other works. USA and some other countries are exceptions. See Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory. Ruslik (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Upload of already removed pictures, + license problems[edit]

Hello, I try upload of pictures ("Sophie Schneider" ) which were removed due to license problems a) I do not understand how to handle the license problem: the paintings are private property of our family, we are the descendants of the painter Sophie Schneider (deceased 1942) , there is no last will of her b) how can I upload the pictures ("Sophie Schneider" ) which before were removed due to license problems ?

Thanks ! H J Schneider — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ch12hs (talk • contribs)

The admins tried to tell you what the problem is on your talk page, and I can't say what it was, because the files are now "deleted"—actually hidden, we can't see the images, but admins and license reviewers can check it. 1942+70=2012 might be old enough for some mix of {{PD-heirs}} and {{PD-old-70}}, what did you try? Based on de:Sophie Schneider the 1942 should be clear, but better ask Jarekt or Motopark if that's enough for an UNDELetion request—if yes they'd presumably simply do it, the "request" business is for potentially controversial undeletions. If something else is unclear, a separate OTRS PERMISSION from you might be required. –Be..anyone (talk) 08:18, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I undeleted the files and added {{PD-old-70}} and {{Artwork}}. H J Schneider can you add more of a description to each of the files? --Jarekt (talk) 13:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Too long time to upload in Upload Wizzard, is there a problem here in Philippines or Server?[edit]

Good evening. I am surprised that it takes 10 minutes or longer to upload just one image this time here in Philippine now 10:18 pm Thursday March 26; my internet speed is quite good 0.70 Mbps download speed and 7.50 Upload speed, ever since last month except a day of problem when I used de bug which I also use now, I usually upload 60 images in one hour or faster, please help me know if your Commons server is in problem, how can I upload the usual way and solve this problem, thanks.--Judgefloro (talk) 14:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Please note that it seems the Uploading is now normal, thanks, as I reported this past problem, regards--Judgefloro (talk) 15:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Question about categories[edit]

I have noticed some categories that are in categories and then also in one or more subcategories and I was wondering if that was by design, or if that is just something that needs to be cleaned up. For example, Category:People by name by gender falls into categories Category:People categories by name and Category:People by name. Category:People categories by name already falls under Category:People by name though, so it seems unnecessarily redundant. From my Wikipedia days I know they tried to avoid the double categorization issue as described above but I know some things here are different than there so I wanted to ask. Reguyla (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

There's a similar rule here near COM:OVERCAT, with a diagram. If you stumble over very simple cases see COM:REDCAT, you can fix minor oddities. Or if it's not your bold day start a CFD (category for discussion), that's also a good procedure if you're not sure, or if you expect controversies, or if you plan huge changes. –Be..anyone (talk) 00:38, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Ok thanks. Reguyla (talk) 01:29, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Better quality photo[edit]

Hi there. I frequently find old, yellow photos online and add them to articles. These old photos almost always need a bit of tweaking to remove the yellow and correct the contrast, and none of the photos I've done this too are particularly noteworthy, and are by unknown photographers. Typically, I'll add the original photo, then add the tweaked photo as a "new version". I know this isn't done with old photos where either the photo or the photographer was noteworthy, such as old Library of Congress photos. I'm asking because this photo is of poor quality and would benefit from a tweak, but the photographer was noteworthy, so I don't want to mess with the integrity of the photo. I've sometimes seen an "other version" attached to a photo page, but I've never tried doing this. The photo is displayed on the Hull, Quebec article, and it would be nice to display it in better quality. Thanks for your advice. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Depends what type of tweak you have in mind. We often need to tweak Poirier's images a little, as the BAnQ copies tend to be a bit low on contrast or have black spots, etc. Actually, adjustments can be done before the first upload. With Poirier's photos, there's no need to have bad versions besides the good versions. So, IMO it's better to use the "new version" approach. Unless you want to crop this image, in which case it should be the "other version" approach, so we can also have the full image of this city view. Also, it is generally better to start directly with the larger version available on the BAnQ website. In this case, it is this image, and we can see that the current Commons version is slightly smaller than the original. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:04, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Health in... / Healthcare in...[edit]

Since March 2013 is this question in discussion:

Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/03/Category:Healthcare in Armenia

However to date there is no satisfying answer to the question: which images should set in category "Heath in..." and which in "Healthcare in...". On this point it seems to exist a pretty confusion in the single country-categories. Can we find a closing solution? --Katharinaiv (talk) 18:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Yesterday I closed a set of related CFDs redirected to one page as inconclusive: No contributions for about 1.25 years despite of the CFD-spamnote in all affected categories. Your case is worse, more categories based on a total FAIL for the separate Afghanistan test: Somebody started a CFD, there was no discussion (happens), the nominator closed their own CFD as merge, but never executed the decision. That's rubbish. And in your example there really was a discussion best described as no consensus to do something, also no consensus to do nothing. So what exactly do you want, would an explanation how to close this failed CFD help? –Be..anyone (talk) 20:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Help accessing the Internet[edit]

Hey,I'm Burton.I can only access Wikipedia and Commons.I can not further my research because of censorship.I was wondering if there is a way to use either Wikipedia or Commons as a proxy.Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burtx (talk • contribs) 13:22, 29 March 2015‎ (UTC)

Sorry, no. LX (talk, contribs) 14:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)