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This deletion debate is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

  • Add {{Delete}} on the image page
  • Notify the uploader with {{subst:idw|All your images|Images of XYZ|plural}} ~~~~
  • On the log, add :
    {{Commons:Deletion requests/Uploads of Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff}}

Uploads of Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff

All of the uploads of Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff should be deleted because of his own restrictions on derivative works "No part of the image can be removed or changed" as posted here and "The images can be used in Wikiprojects without any changes, with reception of the written permission" as posted here.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Mr. Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff means that all his uploads are nonderivatives or Wikimedia only. You should ask him for a clarification. --Kjetil r 17:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Whichever he means does not matter, both restrictions are against COM:L.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Kjetil, there have been long discussions about this, both in English (witj Jeff) and Russian (Eugene). I support Jeff's current view. Aside from Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff's uncivil behaviour for which he has been blocked several times (including sockpuppetry and anonymous edits - also leading to blocks), he appears to have an incorrect understanding of Wikimedia's concept of free. I have only been involved at the beginning of this issue and I think that both Eugene and Jeff should add some links here so support this request, so that we can better understand its background. Cheers! Siebrand 17:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?lang=en&user=24.168.39.49 and http://tools.wikimedia.de/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?lang=en&user=Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff for starters, along with Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Archives/User problems 4#24.168.39.49_.28talk_.E2.80.A2_contribs.29 and Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff. I've got to run, sorry I didn't finish adding delete tags to all his images yet. Is that adding even necessary?   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it seems clear that the restrictions are against policy. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, then. --Kjetil r 20:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I am including his art collection category Category:Art of Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff Collection, which only includes his work and may make automated processing easier.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Hurrah!!! The truth and lie has started to be shown! One of greedy thieves of another's intellectual work, being covered with the defender of copyrights and wishing to make profit for the account of others, was frightened! Only... It is not all! Search more. Very soon by your hands, by such rates and methods as at you, this project will disappear also. Works of users do not belong to you, even if it for them a hobby! You can not copyright their job. I give and I allow to use my illustrations only in such with what you them to see and no more that. You can use my illustrations or not - the right of everyone. Other users of the given projects will begin to see clearly also, creating the new web-sites. --Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff 17:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The above reply appears to confirm my interpretation that he restricts derivative use of his work.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
For calling us "greedy thieves of another's intellectual work" after being warned against personal attacks, he should be blocked. Indefinitely. On all projects.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
User has been blocked; also, a suspected sock. 68.48.230.9 01:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Criticism towards User:Jeff G.

It is a part of work of the author and the part of personal family archive, and also my personal collection. According to copyrights to all these works the instructions a name of the author which are specified are required. GNU is GNU, but each work has the author (even not known inhabitant of a planet the Earth, but he was or is).

Dear Friends, I ask to pay attention to User:Jeff G.. I understand, that the specified participant of our community (User:Jeff G.) very much loves me and "roughly breathes" because of me, hinting at a number of "gay photos" (his reproach was transferred to archive) which are not present and never was, but so is simple to him I will not be given.)) Any of my works does not break and did not break whose copyrights and is loaded here for articles of various language sections 'Wiki/s', and not just for the English version. Please, people, take care of User:Jeff G. that he would not prevent to work. --Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff 13:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I will not dignify such uncivil personal attacks with a response.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I have tried to remove the PAs in the above... Siebrand 15:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
User has been blocked; also, a suspected sock. 68.48.230.9 01:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

More on image licenses

Several images uploaded by Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff show a link to an external website in the source and/or permission field (e.g. Fauset2.JPG and Alexandroffs v9p140.jpg). The images on those sites are provided with these licenses terms:

  • Link to http://fotoplenka.ru/users/tnaia/ (most images uploaded by Genius 3)
    "О себе: поищите в инете Ps: Материалы принадлежащие автору и опубликованные здесь могут быть перепечатаны в любом виде и использованы любым некоммерческим образом, но без нарушения Закона об Авторских правах и с обязательным указанием имени автора. При коммерческом использовании, выплата автору гонорара должна быть обязательно произведена. Указанные даты не означают первичную дату публикации -- многое из публикуемого является перепечаткой прошлого и из других источников автора."
    ... which Google translates to:
    "About me: look for unwanted Ps: Proceedings of the author and published here may be republished in any form and used by any non-profit, but without violating the Law on the Rights of All and a name author. In commercial use, the author of the fees paid to be done. These dates are not the primary date of publication -- a lot of typing is published by the past and from other sources author."
    ... which is not compatible with Commons.
  • Link to http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/pogrebnojalexandroff/
    "No part of the image can be removed or changed. The name of the author should be present at any photo or other author's image at all places where they take places. The images can be used in Wikiprojects and for any other sites or in printing without any changes or other should be personally discussed with the author, with reception of the written permission."
    ... which is not compatible with Commons too.

These images must be deleted unless Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff change their license. — Xavier, 22:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - non-derivs, Wikipedia only. Continued rude responses only hurt cause. Patstuart 23:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The user's page seems to state no derivs. Either it's free, in which case we won't delete it, or it isn't free and we will delete it. I can't see how the user can object to that. Megapixie 23:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

* If the given project noncommercial also is registered as not-for-profit organisation about what commerce there can be a speech? If it is a hobby of users about what commerce there can be a speech? And if someone wishes to receive benefit from use of another's work why not to pay to authors for their work? Something rules specified by you are not joined to the International law and common sense. Your rules and many of you uncivil, but not Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff! Pogrebnoj-Alexandrff just it is more for the people, instead of commercial interest of separate people. And why you block at once users as soon as see danger to your inventions in a deceit of naive people? Where the report on the collected donations which it is collected more than one million dollars? I wish to see this financial report. Genius#1 1:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC) faked. The preceding incompletely signed comment was added by 72.11.218.137 (talk • contribs) at 05:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete and a 2 or 3 day block on Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff for personal attacks, rudeness, disruption and harassment of Jeff G. (Harassment is not Wikistalking). Shuch behavior is not tolerated. --Jonas Dalton Rand (talk) 06:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
He now has a three month block (4th block) for incivility, using sockpuppets, and disruption. Siebrand 06:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I definitely vote for deletion of COAs images (most likely derivative works from scanned books/magazines/etc images). Unfortunately uploader didn't provide details after many requests. Other usual images (vegetables, places) could stay if terms of use on http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/pogrebnojalexandroff/ and http://fotoplenka.ru/users/tnaia/ will adjusted accordingly to terms declared on Commons. --EugeneZelenko 14:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
    • The user is now indefinately blocked from Commons, but seeing his sockpuppetry we can safely assume he is reading this. I propose we give him 2 weeks to change the notice on http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/pogrebnojalexandroff/ and http://fotoplenka.ru/users/tnaia/ to reflect a free license, as defined on COM:L. That is until 2 November 2007. If it has not been done by then, and I think you are the right person to check Eugene, the uploads will be deleted. If it has been done, the original work can be kept. Any objections? Siebrand 15:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Thanks! No objections.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Good call. Patstuart 18:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
        Symbol delete vote.svg Delete As of 6th November, the licenses on those sites are still unchanged. I'm afraid it's now time to delete Pogrebnoj-Alexandroff's work. — Xavier, 19:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Derived work is marked as own work like here: Image:Gsn.jpg, source is Image:Schwalbenschwanz_Raupe01.jpg, rotated vertical. I wonder what's the source of that Image:Butterfly.jpg --Hsuepfle 20:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gsn.jpg should be saved from deletion as it is a regular derivative work with a correct CC-by license. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find out the source of the butterfly. — Xavier, 19:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Can this be closed? Other related DRs exist, e.g., Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Buttocks.jpg. I closed and deleted that one since a consensus was reached.Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Closing as Delete. User was indefinately blocked some time ago. Possibly this wasn't closed earlier due to the number of images involved; see links above. I will get a start on deleting them; assistance from other admins is encouraged. -- Infrogmation 16:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Closed; delete per nom. Deletion of relevent images not yet completed at this time. -- Infrogmation 17:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Over 500 deletions later, Finished, deleted. -- Infrogmation 22:57, 8 December 2007 (UTC)