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Info non-talk.svg Template:Information has been protected indefinitely because it is a highly-used or visible template. Use {{Edit request}} on this page to request an edit.
Please test any changes in the template's /sandbox or /testcases subpages, or in a user subpage, and consider discussing changes at the talk page before implementing them.

Commons:Deletion requests/Template:See below[edit]

Since the Template:See below is stated as being intended to be used in the Permission field of the Information template, I would like to notify the watchers here about my DR. --Leyo 14:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Maintainance category for wrong dates[edit]

Hi all, as i understand finally we want to have only machine-readable dates in the respective parameter of the template. Is there any maintainance category that lists non-parsable dates so that we can work on it? --Arnd (talk) 20:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

@Aschroet: Category:Pages using Complex date template with incorrect parameter perhaps. Lotje (talk) 12:21, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Lotje, this category i know. It contains files that use complex date template but in a wrong way. But there are many many files that do not use a template within the date parameter which cannot be parsed in an automated way. --Arnd (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

@Aschroet: maybe someone will come along and give us a helping hand. One never knows... Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 14:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
At the moment dates are processed by Module:Date and Module:ISOdate and none of those modules tags images if the date is not parsed right. In Module:ISOdate I started to work on "extended" version which would recognize some common unsupported formats (DD-MM-YYYY, MM-DD-YYYY, months in English, etc.) but I never finished testing it. Category:Files with lack of machine-readability also does not track dates. --Jarekt (talk) 14:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation Jarekt. I hope you had a good time without Wiki and you are full of energy for new things. According to the dates, can these modules also handle dates which contain other templates like {{Taken on}}, {{Original upload date}} as it is described in the documentation? Or will that lead to a parsing error because the expanded form of these templates is then no ISO 8601 date? --Arnd (talk) 05:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Among date modules Module:ISOdate does the parsing and Module:Date does the translation to user languages. You can see possible inputs in Module talk:ISOdate/sandbox/testcases, but if Module:ISOdate can not parse something than it leaves it as is. That allows you to use {{Taken on}} and {{Original upload date}} which call {{ISOdate}} and indirectly Module:ISOdate within it. --Jarekt (talk) 12:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok, but this also means that we cannot detect wrong dates easily because a failing Module:ISOdate could also mean that the parameter could contain a template that uses a correct date. --Arnd (talk) 13:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Probably Module:ISOdate could insert a hidden string (when date parsed successfully), which we can detect with another module called directly from {{Information}}, and add a tracking category if not found. --Tacsipacsi (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Module:Date does add hidden metadata that looks something like "<span style="white-space:nowrap"><time class="dtstart" datetime="2008-11">November 2008</time></span>". But I am mot sure how to detect that string by {{Information}}. We are usually quite weary of asking {{Information}} (or other highly used templates) to do "behind the scene" tasks which might slow down millions of pages. If there is a clear need to detect such files than I would ask developers to add a test to other tests in Category:Files with lack of machine-readability. For starters majority of files in Category:Media missing infobox template have non-parsable dates. --Jarekt (talk) 16:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Add a warning for impossible dates?[edit]

Would it be possible to add a small warning box in the date field when a date in the future (i.e. 2017-01-01) is used as the creation date? Since it isn't possible to create an image after it is viewed, it would make sense to add a warning about this, just like Wikipedia has warnings for missing titles in references (not sure if they handle dates). --BurritoBazooka (talk) 18:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

The best place to handle this is {{ISOdate}} (probably using some parameter since that template can be used anywhere). --Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Bitte um Hilfe[edit]

Die Datei: File:Ivo Puhonny Grauslich.jpg ist versehentlich im Rahmen des Kulturdenkmal-Wettbewerbs hochgeladen worden und trägt falsche Informationen, die ich nicht ändern kann. Der Creator der Marionette ist Ivo Puhonny. Und die passende Lizenz sollte anzeigen, dass der Urheber Puhonny vor 70 Jahren verstorben ist. Wäre schön, wenn ein Experte die Lizenz richtig stellen könnte und das selbst erstellt verschwinden lassen könnte. Danke im voraus --MoSchle 04:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 13:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Can we add {{Private correspondence}} to the list of acceptable options in the Source field?[edit]

{{edit request}}I've been wondering how to handle a recent concern I've had with how to properly fill in the |source= field for an image I uploaded when the author had given his permission in a private OTRS message and wished to remain confidential. I was eventually informed by LX that the correct option to use would have been {{Private correspondence}}. It would have been great if I could have found this right here in the Information template, and I would like to request that it be added to the description of |source= here so that it won't be so difficult for editors in the future to find. Can this be done? KDS4444 (talk) 23:10, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

It appears I was able to do this myself after all. This edit request may be ignored. KDS4444 (talk) 03:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Missing dates[edit]

Hi all, i'd like to find all files with missing date. Is there any easy way? Maybe we could add a category similar to when the author is missing. --Arnd (talk) 11:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, missing dates are not a big problem, compared to missing author or source. --Leyo 13:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
i know, but is this a reason against having such a category? I agree that a warning on the description page is not required. But a maintenance category would help at least me in reducing missing date. --Arnd (talk) 19:50, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, I am indifferent here, weighing benefits and costs. Other opinions? --Leyo 21:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok, i think i can generate such a list also by parsing a Commons dump or something like this. --Arnd (talk) 04:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)