User talk:AnimeToonUrdu

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Edit warring on File:Hindustani.svg

AnimeToonUrdu, I see that you're engaged in edit warring for no reason at all on File:Hindustani.svg. You seem to be obsessed with flipping the order of the Devanagari and Perso-Arabic scripts, but please stop doing this. The English WP is not the only place where the image is being used, and all the other wikis are using the order as shown in the original image (Devanagari, then Perso-Arabic). This is not to mention that the change accomplishes nothing. Please stop edit warring; this is a warning. Getsnoopy (talk) 22:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: The image you use is a vector version of Hindustani0804.png as it mentions. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 18:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@AnimeToonUrdu: Firstly, please stop making any further changes to the images until the discussion is over, per WP:BOLD. Secondly, I hope you noticed that it was you who was making the same arbitrary changes on the PNG file as well despite protests from other users. Thirdly, this doesn't change the fact that almost all of the other wikis using the file still refer to the image with the caption of Devanagari, then Perso-Arabic. Therefore, please stop with your arbitrary and pointless changes. Getsnoopy (talk) 19:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: You should know that the File:Hindustani0804.png was uploaded by User:FastilyClone in the same fonts (Perso-Arabic then Devanagari) but User:फ़िलप्रो changed the fonts with no specific reason at all, i only reverted it to the older version and almost many other wikis are using that file (Hindustani0804.png) not yours. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 19:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@AnimeToonUrdu: Yes, but it wasn't for no specific reason at all, it was because it was because it was the more popular script (and probably also to match the concept that is is referred to as "Hindi-Urdu" rather than "Urdu-Hindi"). Regardless, yes, even though most of the wikis are still using the old image, the pages where they're using it mention the Devanagari script first (presumably because they adapted to the change by User:फ़िलप्रो). Changing it back now is not only futile, but would mismatch all of those wikis. All of this is not to mention that the version you keep uploading has the top and bottom Urdu parts of the text clipped. I suggest you just let it be. Getsnoopy (talk) 20:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: many other wikis are using File:Hindustani0804.png (which was reverted by me to the original version) Secondly, Kindly understand that the Hindi is more larger language, even than Urdu is special variety of Hindustani while Hindi is considered the junior form and The term "Hindustani" was used to identify the Urdu, Third and last Hindi-Urdu name is samely uses like we use the term "Eastern Punjabi-Western Punjabi" but Western Punjabi is more specially used. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@AnimeToonUrdu: many other wikis are using File:Hindustani0804.png This is exactly what I said, but I pointed out that the way they were using it was in line with the way File:Hindustani.svg currently is. Also, the rest of your comment was quite difficult for me to understand, but overlooking the fact that you'd need references for all of those claims, it simply doesn't matter at this point. It's purely a matter of practicality. Just let it be. Getsnoopy (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: Please understand that File:Hindustani0804.png was reverted by me to the first font which was representing Urdu to the top and Hindi on the bottom, kindly check the section "File usage on other wikis" of File:Hindustani0804.png it is almost every wiki is using my reverted version, secondly i should post the reliable source for my claim (from ENG WP):

Grierson, vol. 9–1, p. 47.

We may now define the three main varieties of Hindōstānī as follows:—Hindōstānī is primarily the language of the Upper Gangetic Doab, and is also the lingua franca of India, capable of being written in both Persian and Dēva-nāgarī characters, and without purism, avoiding alike the excessive use of either Persian or Sanskrit words when employed for literature. The name 'Urdū' can then be confined to that special variety of Hindōstānī in which Persian words are of frequent occurrence, and which hence can only be written in the Persian character, and, similarly, 'Hindī' can be confined to the form of Hindōstānī in which Sanskrit words abound, and which hence can only be written in the Dēva-nāgarī character.

I humbly and respectively ask you for the old font. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 20:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@AnimeToonUrdu: I still don't think you understand. When you visit the other wikis, the way they use File:Hindustani0804.png is by having a caption that effectively says "Devanagari and Nastaliq". Basically every single one expects the Devanagari to come first. Secondly, the source your quoted merely says how Hindi, Urdu, and Hindustani are defined. I don't know how this helps your argument whatsoever. Getsnoopy (talk) 21:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: My dear friend! I understand your every argument when you posted your fourth message and why Changing it back now is not only futile, if you can change the image and put your newly created image, then i also can change the fonts of the image, now i hope you understand. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 07:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Getsnoopy: I have changed the caption of each wiki, using this image only English Wikipedia is remaining which is checking per hour. AnimeToonUrdu (talk) 07:48, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@AnimeToonUrdu: I have changed the caption of each wiki It seems like you might be new to Wikipedia and the Wikimedia family of sites and therefore are not familiar with the policies. You made a change to a file I uploaded, and I reverted it because I (and frankly other users as well) disapprove of the change. The next course of action is to have a civil discussion about it until it is resolved without making any changes. Making changes behind my back despite me warning you to stop edit warring is a fast track to getting your account banned. Please stop making unilateral changes. Consider yourself warned for the last time.

if you can change the image and put your newly created image, then i also can change the fonts of the image, now i hope you understand. This has nothing to do with who can and can't do something; disputes are resolved in a consensus-based manner on the Wikimedia sites. You haven't presented any arguments as to why flipping the scripts is justified, let alone them being convincing. Your change still is counter to the way most of the Wiki sites using this image have their scripts listed in Devanagari and Perso-Arabic (in that order) in Infoboxes and other places. Furthermore, unless you're telling me that you're fluent in the 20+ languages whose wikis use this image, I can only imagine your changes would break the grammatical correctness of the source text in those language wikis. This is not to mention the fact that the font you seem to be changing is exactly the one I've already used in an image that is not only smaller in file size, but is also rendered correctly (the image you have uploaded has some of the Perso-Arabic glyphs being cut off at the top and bottom).

All in all, your changes not only not use a "better font", but they improve nothing in any other respect with respect to the image. The only noticeable change is that the file size is inexplicably larger and the order of the scripts is flipped because you seem to be singularly obsessed with flipping them for reasons you have not given yet. I strongly suggest you drop this obsession and either come up with valid arguments for why your changes have merit, or let things be. Getsnoopy (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)