Commons:Village pump/Copyright

From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository
Jump to: navigation, search
Community portal
introduction
Help desk
uploading
Village pump
copyrightproposals
Administrators' noticeboard
vandalismuser problemsblocks and protections
↓ Skip to table of contents ↓       ↓ Skip to discussions ↓
Shortcut: COM:VPC· COM:VPCOPY
Welcome to the Village pump copyright section

This Wikimedia Commons page is used for general discussions relating to copyright and license issues, and for discussions relating to specific files' copyright issues. Discussions relating to specific copyright policies should take place on the talk page of the policy, but may be advertised here. Recent sections with no replies for 7 days may be archived; for old discussions, see the archives.

Please note
  1. If you want to ask why unfree/non-commercial material is not allowed at Wikimedia Commons or if you want to suggest that allowing it would be a good thing please do not comment here. It is a waste of your time. One of Wikimedia Commons' basic principles is: "Only free content is allowed." This is just a basic rule of the place, as inherent as the NPOV requirement on all Wikipedias.
  2. Have you read the FAQ?
  3. Any answers you receive here are not legal advice and the responder cannot be held liable for them. If you have legal questions, we can try to help but our answers cannot replace those of a qualified professional (i.e. a lawyer).
  4. Your question will be answered here; please check back regularly. Please do not leave your email address or other contact information, as this page is widely visible across the Internet and you are liable to receive spam.
Purposes which do not meet the scope of this page
Commons discussion pages (index)


  • Please do not make deletion requests here – instead, use the relevant process for it.
 

Indianapolis Museum of Art appears to be giving carte-blanche permission to download and freely use images marked as "public domain"[edit]

The Indianapolis Museum of Art has made a number of really beautiful images available via its website, marked as "Public Domain" where appropriate, and on their Image Resources page, they say "Many images of public domain works are available for free download from the IMA’s Collections page. Simply look for the download icon to access a high resolution JPG file and begin using the image for any purpose." Further down the page, it also says "Public domain collection images downloaded from the IMA collection pages should be credited: “Image courtesy of the Indianapolis Museum of Art.”" and also "There are no restrictions or conditions for the use of downloadable public domain images."

Many of the images are wonderful and I was wondering whether this permits appropriately marked PD images from their database to be uploaded, in a similar way that LACMA public domain images are permitted? Any thoughts? Mabalu (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Mabalu Public domain content, with or without anyone inviting others to redistribute it, can be hosted in Wikimedia Commons. A notice indicating public domain status from the expert staff at this museum meets Commons' requirement that diligent research be done to confirm that content uploaded here is actually compatible with Commons' copyright policy. Even much less than that is often permissible here.
Despite what they say, there is no requirement on Commons to credit the museum as owners of the art or as the providers of public domain images. However, there is a community tradition here to note these things in the file page on Commons when possible, even without being requested. Wikimedia Commons does not propagate notices that imply a requirement that users must give credit when reusing public domain content, so if the files are brought here, those notices should be weakened or omitted. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
They should be credited. It is a matter of simple human decency to do so, and include the request to reusers. We even have a template {{Licensed-PD-Art}}, disproving your claim that the Commons does not propagate such notices.
Giving people credit for what they did is cheap and shouldn't be begrudged.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:31, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Prosfilaes It is good to give credit here on Commons. I am much less willing to copy a notice to Commons that says if these public domain images are reused off-Commons, then still the attribution is required. I want to give credit, but most museums and archives assert copyright or reuse restrictions over their public domain holdings and I am not eager to spread that idea. Blue Rasberry (talk) 10:39, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't see a problem with noting that the Museum would appreciate crediting, but as they do concede on their page, there are no restrictions - it's really just a request that if reusing, it "should be" rather than "must be." Mabalu (talk) 13:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Absolutely agree here. Blue Rasberry I just wanted to double-check, because these are modern photographs of 3D objects, and I know that can be tricky. So it's OK to use these images? Mabalu (talk) 09:23, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
If we have the Museum's permission to treat the modern photographs as PD, and we seem to, then they're fine.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:57, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Those (pictures of 3-D works) would indeed need a license. It sounds like their terms are basically like {{CopyrightedFreeUse}}, or maybe {{Attribution}}. We may want a specific tag if there are going to be lots of images. For images of PD 2-D works, then it's a PD-Art situation instead. Carl Lindberg (talk) 02:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Is this something where a collaboration with the Museum might be possible? I don't know how the LACMA agreement worked out - one day, you were fine to upload individual pictures from their website as long as there was a certain note on the page; the next day suddenly EVERYTHING that had clearance had been uploaded with LACMA's blessing. Mabalu (talk) 09:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded 3 files: File:Woman's shirt from Kutch, Gujarat, India, IMA 55114.jpg, File:Woman's shirt from Kutch, Gujarat, India, IMA 55114, 2.jpg, File:Woman's trousers from Kutch, Gujarat, India, IMA 53793.jpg. Indeed, high quality pictures of interesting items. I think it would be good to have a category for files copied from their website. Suggestions? Opinions? Regards, Yann (talk) 16:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Yann I also have wondered about this and would like for there to be a standard practice. Perhaps a hidden category called "media provided by the Indianpolis Museum of Art", which is a subcategory of Category:Indianapolis Museum of Art and Category:Media provided by museums. I do think that it is worthwhile to differentiate content provided by an institution versus other media relating to that institution, but I have not seen this kind of categorization consistently managed. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I will do that tomorrow unless there is any opposition. Better to be right the first time, rather that do it twice. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I created Category:Images from the Indianapolis Museum of Art, which is a subcategory of Category:Images from museums. BTW do we need license review for these images? Regards, Yann (talk) 10:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I noticed that in some cases (e.g. [1]), the whole item is only displayed in a medium resolution, and some parts in high resolution. It would be nice to have the whole item in HR. They also have high resolution TIFF files available on request. So I wrote them. We will see what comes out... Regards, Yann (talk) 23:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I got an answer. The Indianapolis Museum of Art confirms that the images are in the public domain, but they won't give any TIFF. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

UK coat of arms[edit]

Hi, What is the copyright status of the UK coat of arms, which is used on UK passports? See the following pages for related discussions. This page from the UK government says (section 2.2): Use of the Royal Arms without permission is a breach of Crown copyright which is a criminal offence. So? Yann (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

That sounds more like a trademark issue than copyright. I'm pretty sure our stance is still Commons:Coats of arms. The design is not really copyrighted, but individual representations can be. I'm sure the official representation is Crown Copyright. Carl Lindberg (talk) 19:47, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks for your message. So practically, what does it mean? Can the CoA (i.e. File:British biometric passport.jpg) be used for something unrelated to passports, say a T-shirt? If yes, then I think we are good. If no, then we have a problem. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
The UK coat of arms are protected by §99 of the "Trade Marks Act 1994" (a non-copyright restriction). Images of the arms known to have been created by the UK Government prior to 1965 can be tagged with {{PD-UKGov}} and {{Insignia}}. Whether or not we can keep particular images in which the arms are not de minimis will presumably require determining if the particular rendition of the arms is pre-1965. I don't know if the rendition of the arms on a modern UK passport was created prior to 1965. It may well be (a note at File:Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom (HM Government).svg says the current style of the arms was adopted in 1953). Presumably a UK business couldn't use even a pre-1965 rendition of the arms without permission on a T-shirt without running afoul of §99, but a US business could (although even a US business could not trademark a logo prominently featuring the UK arms as the U.S. is a signatory to the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property of 1883, which prohibits the trademark registration of State emblems of the signatories). —RP88 (talk) 18:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, the current design of UK passport was made in 1953, see File:Stone royal coat of arms.JPG. Yann (talk) 19:16, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Buckingham Palace - Wappen am Gittertor.jpg
Please note, that similar rules should probably apply to such documents and even maybe to such photos:
Ankry (talk) 17:57, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
The photo File:Buckingham Palace - Wappen am Gittertor.jpg is fine. In the UK it is not copyright infringement to take a photo of a sculpture permanently located in a public place. See Commons:Freedom of panorama#United Kingdom and {{FoP-UK}} for more information. —RP88 (talk) 18:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


Muddled. The T-shirt would likely violate insignia laws anyways. I don't think they have an issue copying the arms if they are an integral part of an official document being copied most of the time -- see their guidance on publishing birth, marriage, and death certificates. In that view, cropping out just the arms would not be OK, nor would adding them if they were not there already, but copying the document as a whole is OK (provided personal data is protected)... it would basically be analogous to a photo of the Louvre square which contains the copyrighted pyramid, which is OK, but photos focusing on the pyramid are not. The cover of the passport is much more dominated by the arms though (and might qualify as an official symbol itself)... their guidance for that is here. The primary concerns seem to be that 1) much of the data of an actual passport is personal, and thus is not covered by the {{OGL}}, 2) there are security features on the inside pages of the passport that they do not want disseminated, and 3) the arms are also outside the scope of the OGL and they are probably worried that some uses which just contain the cover of the passport might be reasonably assumed to be associated with the government (i.e. it would be a trademark or insignia violation). Their guidance on the cover specifically says:
3.3 Restrictions on reproduction
The image of the cover of the Passport including the Royal Arms, or the details pages of the Passport may not be used:
  • as the main focus of the cover of a work, for example, the dust jacket or cover of a publication
  • in advertising
  • in facsimile form for use as a passport holder or cover
So it seems as though there are certain situations where it is not OK to copy, but they would probably also be situations which would be fraudulent uses of the arms per other insignia laws, and the UK may also be using Crown Copyright to additionally protect those same uses, but seem OK with many other reproductions (of the cover anyways) as long as it is obvious that it is not associated with the UK government in any way. Whether that amounts to "non-free" is a harder question. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:31, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
The issue is not the inside of the passport, just the cover. Recent passports have a complex inside design which is certainly under a copyright. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
I've dropped them an email about this to try to get it clarified. --Mdann52talk to me! 20:10, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

screenshots[edit]

What about those screenshots: Special:ListFiles/Wolfgang_Holle? Are they OK under a free license? --2A02:810D:27C0:5CC:49C:A448:5446:A916 12:12, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

If you could please be more specific? I searched most of that gallery and found no hits. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
The screenshots show proprietary software like Autodesk Inventor. See Commons:Screenshots. --2A02:810D:27C0:5CC:3127:25C8:29E1:511B 15:33, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
  • If these are non-free software screenshots, just tag as {{Copyvio}}. Be sure to review the screenshots before tagging, in order to don't tag free software screesnhots by mistake. --Amitie 10g (talk) 17:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Copyright query - no notice[edit]

Hey all,

I have recently nominated a file for deletion (Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pappa Fourway.jpg), however after looking into it, the file appears like it may fall under {{PD-US-no notice}} - there is definitely no clear notice on the work in question. I'd be grateful if someone more familiar with this could take a look. --Mdann52talk to me! 19:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Recommended way to acknowledge Commons images[edit]

I am planning to use some images from Commons on my own web pages. I intend to acknowledge WP Commons as the source of each such image in its alt tag, title tag, or both. Is the acceptable? What wording is recommended? Maproom (talk) 19:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

See Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. In short: every image is accompanied by information about its license. How to credit the image depends on the terms of this license. It is nice to acknowledge Commons, but what is usually needed, is crediting the author. --rimshottalk 21:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Billboard advertisements[edit]

There is a deletion discussion going on now that affects hundreds of images taken from advertisements in Billboard magazines lacking separate copyright notices. Further input is welcome at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pat Buttram Billboard 2.jpg. Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

The publisher's copyright notice for a pre-1978 U.S. collective work (typical examples include magazines, newspapers, or other periodicals) is not sufficient for advertisements that appear in the collective work unless the copyright to the advertisement is owned by the publisher of the collective work. Advertisements published in pre-1978 collective works without their own separate notice can use the {{PD-US_no_notice}} tag. Specific details are at Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter#Advertisements. I'll take a look at the DR you mention. —RP88 (talk) 22:52, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

BSD license[edit]

Pictogram voting question.svg Question Is {{BSD}} useful here since it is only a software license? It doesn't say anything about photos or screenshots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedwig in Washington (talk • contribs) 02:29, 24 August 2015‎ (UTC)

Commons hosts thousands of BSD-licensed images going back to 2005. While certainly not a preferred license for photos, it was not at all uncommon for one of the available "free" source-code licenses like BSD to be used for images before the Creative Commons licenses achieved greater recognition. The license satisfies wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy and Commons:Licensing. I agree it that it is cumbersome (although definitely less cumbersome than the GFDL) and I would definitely discourage anyone from using it for newly created images uploaded to Commons, but it still serves a purpose for images that were released elsewhere under this license. —RP88 (talk) 02:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't touch a deletion request with a ten foot pole. Clin Should we add something like Use discouraged, please use foo or bar? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Personally I wouldn't bother since I can't think of a reason to single out {{BSD}} as a discouraged license that does not also apply to all of the other software licenses (i.e. {{GPL}}, {{MIT}}, {{Apache}}, {{CeCILL}}, etc.). For that matter, licenses like {{BSD}} are already discouraged by virtue of the fact that the Upload Wizard initially only offers CC-BY-SA-4.0 for new uploads of one's own work (and even if you ask for an expanded list of licenses the wizard only makes it easy to use CC licenses). —RP88 (talk) 05:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
  • The BSD license specifies that is for software, but not explicitely restricted to binaries and source code. Therefore, the {{BSD}} (like the {{GPL}}) applies to any file related to software licensed under the BSD (ie. screenshots of software like Chromium). In these cases, is important to specify the free software license in order to make a screenshot properly licensed, because the software screenshots are the result of execution of the code covered in that license; for that purpose exists {{Free screenshot}}.
Therefore, if a picture is licensed with BSD and does not belongs to software in any way, we can discourage its ussage, but we can't restrict its hosting and ussage in any way.
And finally, experienced users (like me) preffer to add the license manually (that include {{Free screenshot}} with its parameters). I think that will be a good idea to add free screenshts to the Upload wizard. --Amitie 10g (talk) 16:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
A little off-topic, but technically, the result of executing copyrighted code is not necessarily copyrighted. It is usually because many graphics you see on the screen were provided as resources, and those usually have the same license as the software (unless specified differently in the documentation). The arrangement of the interface might also be copyrighted; that could be embodied in the code or other resources as well. But in general, just being processed by copyrighted code does not make something copyrightable -- it has to be human expression to begin with. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Old works from Korea prior to the end of the WWII (1945)[edit]

I ve found this file, picture taken in 1930, but tagged by Krdbot because lacks of a valid license... but, ¿what license we should apply?

Currently, we have {{PD-China}}, that covers the works of China before its splitting. But, I don't found any PD tag or prior discussion in the Village Pump concerning about Korea.

¿Is actually necessary a PD template for Korea in the same way as China? Considering that the Copyright laws of the both current Koreas is quite different, I open this thread to discuss this. --Amitie 10g (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

That is another messy situation. At the time, Korea was part of Japan (at least de facto; the de jure question is based on the legality of the w:Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 but most of the world accepted it). That territory became two different countries... you could argue it was simultaneously published in both (and perhaps Japan as well), and in that case Berne says the country of origin is the country among those with the shortest term. It most likely expired a long time ago in all three; the question would be if any of the Korean laws would have retroactively restored it (I don't think so, but I haven't looked to be sure). The "source country" for the URAA would probably be South Korea (that would be the country with the "greatest contacts to the work", and the photo was most likely taken in Seoul). But, most any way you look at it, it should be PD -- so just pick a tag that makes sense. Nothing wrong with putting both North and South Korean PD tags on there, either, as they should both be true. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I've created this template (notice that it uses Autotranslate!). Is OK, or the copyright statuses in the Korea-1910-1945 is too complicated? --Amitie 10g (talk) 05:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I'll propose the creation of the license tag in the COM:VPP. This thread may still be opened for copyright-related discussions. --Amitie 10g (talk) 03:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Not sure that a North Korean work would necessarily qualify for the tag, if they are purely 50pma. On the other hand, we wouldn't require all tags to be true either -- it is technically just one of the three, and probably both Japan and South Korea would qualify. (No idea what North Korean copyright rules were before the 2001 law... or if they cared at all. It might be a formality law which is ignored in practice.) It might be easiest to just use the South Korean tag for all such photos, really, but I could also see a special tag just to separate them out. Carl Lindberg (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I ran into this problem about 18 months ago when trying correctly to mark some missionary photographs taken in Korea over this period. It can be confusing to explain to others as it is a complex area of copyright law, hand-in-hand with a lack of legal cases. Thanks for looking at it and making a more explicit template. -- (talk) 05:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

New copyright tag proposal[edit]

I think it would make sense to have a tag specific for advertisements in collective works 1923-1977, where there is no copyright notice for the advertisement. There are a lot of images like this on Commons, and it would be helpful to have a specific template that legitimizes them and tracks them. A suggestion is here: User:Calliopejen1/Ad no notice. Thoughts? Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

NOTE This tag would be specific to the United States (not Europe) -- it covers the case where there is a notice in the work as a whole, but the ad lacks notice. This would eliminate requests for deletion like Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pat Buttram Billboard 2.jpg that are based on a misunderstanding of US copyright law. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose We already have too many similar license tags. I would merge {{Anonymous-EU}} with {{PD-anon-70}}. I don't see the point to have a specific tag for Europe. Anyway, which Europe? The Euro zone? The European Union? Why not other European countries which have similar laws (Serbia, etc.)? Regards, Yann (talk) 08:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
in favor of such tag Ad no notice as it cleans a whole area for discussion. Only if there are no other similar tags. --Hannolans (talk) 08:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
There is {{PD-US no notice}}, that's the point. Yann (talk) 10:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Could this be an additional parameter for PD-US no notice then? That would be another option. There is confusion created by the fact that such advertisements are taken from magazines (or similar works) with notice but the ads themselves lack notice. I think there are many users here that misunderstand the treatment of advertisements in collective works. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
It is a specific case of PD-US-no_notice, one which not everyone may be aware of, where there is a copyright notice on the magazine but not one on the advertisement. It is a specific exception. It was based on a couple of court cases and then codified into 17 USC 404. A separate tag would point out that specific circumstance, as people may question the PD-US-no_notice tag when there is in fact a notice present on the collective work. On the other hand, yes, it does sort of duplicate the PD-US-no_notice and the PD-US-1978-89 tags. The tag should point out that advertisements where the author is the same as the collective work are covered by the notice; i.e. a magazine advertising itself or sister magazines or something like that are not PD. The wording in the law is advertisements inserted on behalf of persons other than the owner of copyright in the collective work, which we should make clear. Second, the tag explicitly stops at 1977, but it could cover up to 1989, with the extra caveat of registering within 5 years. If we have a tag for this specific purpose, I think it should go up to March 1, 1989. This may well be one of the biggest sources of material not under copyright for those years, actually. Carl Lindberg (talk) 20:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
yes, either new custom license, or modification to PD-US-no_notice. but getting the europeans to stop deleting US public domain material (from lack of formalities), is a forlorn hope. maybe we need a notice board for some sustained undeletions. Slowking4Farmbrough's revenge 17:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Anonymous license tag[edit]

I would merge {{Anonymous-EU}} with {{PD-anon-70}}. I don't see the point to have a specific tag for Europe. Anyway, which Europe? The Euro zone? The European Union? Why not other European countries which have similar laws (Serbia, etc.)? Regards, Yann (talk) 08:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Anonymous-EU is based on European Law (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32006L0116:EN:HTML), and is implemented in national law in all countries who are member of the European Union. Eurozone are members with the Euro as valuta, I see no link with valuta systems to copyright. --Hannolans (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
So what? {{PD-anon-70}} offers exactly the same functionality, so I don't see the point to have a separate tag. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Maybe I misunderstand, but PD-EU-anonymous declares that it is at least according to the European law guaranteed PD, and PD-anon-70 is declaring that it is at least in the US law guaranteed PD. While it can have a 99% overlap, I m not sure if it is a 100%, and if the assumptions are the same about 'publication' and amount of research that should be done. --Hannolans (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Edit: I see that PD-anon-70 is not specific for any country, and PD-EU-anonymous is more specific. --Hannolans (talk) 13:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, I don't see the point to have a specific tag. If needed, we can add that PD-anon-70 apply in the EU, like we have for PD-old-70. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
There are some specific issues like unpublished anonymous works in the EU-law. Note that there is also PD-EU-no_author_disclosure template. What you proposed on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:PD-EU-no_author_disclosure does make sense, keep PD-anon-70 and combine the two EU-tags to one. --Hannolans (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Right. So we have 3 license tags which apply to the same kind of copyright situation. QED. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:28, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
The EU directive does have a slightly different situation for countries where a corporation is the direct copyright owner -- in those cases, it matters if the author was named on the initial publication. If not, corporations are not supposed to be able to extend to 70pma by naming the author down the road, whereas that can happen with human-authored copyrights. That has been one possible distinction between the EU anon tags. There are often tiny differences in the laws -- what constitutes "publication", for example -- that can be hard to capture in a single PD-anon-70 tag. Carl Lindberg (talk) 04:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Sure, the law is slightly different from one country to another. But practically, I don't think we can or should make than difference in the template. I think, we should have a page Commons:Copyright for anonymous works, which gives the details, and the template should refer to that. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Let's first try to merge {{Anonymous-EU}} and {{PD-EU-no author disclosure}} and let's see if that is possible and what kind of specific EU-law is involved. I think it is important that tags refer to specific law for disputes. --Hannolans (talk) 09:56, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
There is some discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure. Currently, they are basically the same tag. Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:24, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
PD-anon-70 is not US; US works published by 1978 follow those rules, and for recently published works, the US is PD-anon-120.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Montage pictures, sources with different CC licenses[edit]

I found this file. I reviewed and passed the license, but I have a doubt, Is allowed the mixing of works licensed under the CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses? and then, What license should we use for these kind of works? --Amitie 10g (talk) 21:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, If it is the same version, no issue. The license of the montage should be the most restrictive, i.e. CC-BY-SA. Yann (talk) 21:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Creative Commons licenses are designed to be adaptable to the situation of combining Creative Commons licensed works (where possible). A compilation can either be multi-licensed such that all licenses must be honored (if none are incompatible share-alike licenses),, or, in many cases it is possible to release the compilation under a single-license with the most restrictive license. CC has a chart and we have some notes at Commons:Collages#Combining_different_Creative_Commons_versions (which also discusses the rules about license version) and Commons:Multi-licensing. The collage File:London Montage E.jpg was correctly single-licensed, it wasn't necessary for you to add caveats to its license section. —RP88 (talk) 21:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) /me misses COM:derivativeFX. Josve05a (talk) 22:00, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 :-) —RP88 (talk) 22:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110409 Josve05a (talk) 22:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Louvre - FOP issue[edit]

Shouldn't Template:FoP-France be on File:Paris July 2011-27a.jpg like it is on File:Louvre Museum Wikimedia Commons.jpg?

It is quite possible that it should. Ruslik (talk) 14:24, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
So, can I go ahead and add it? -- Nirinsanity (talk) 17:10, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Likely copy-vio[edit]

I have my suspicions about this image, there are a number of red flags. For a start, it looks incredibly professional and likely an image taken by a club photographer rather than a spectator. Also, there is no metadata. A reverse image search shows that it exists on other websites. It appears on this Uruguayan website in 2013, but with no details on its copyright status. The Almightey Drill (talk) 19:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, it is quite obviously not User:Sol2y's own work. You should nominate the image for deletion. You can follow Help:NDTL should you need help regarding that. -- Nirinsanity (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done Right. Copyvio, deleted. Yann (talk) 10:46, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

De minimis?[edit]

GT2 - Flickr - CarSpotter.jpg
The image shown on the left argues that the Batman poster in it is too small to be an issue of copyright infringement. However, doesn't the fact that the image is used both on the English and the Arabic articles of the film The Dark Knight contradict De minimis? - Nirinsanity (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
This seems to be clearly de-minimis to me. The poster is not at all recognizable at the thumbnail size, for example. The focus is the car and the street scene. That said, the use of the image in said articles might be a copyright violation. --Sebari (talk) 15:13, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
I've removed the image from the English article. - Nirinsanity (talk) 18:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


PD-Art, broken process[edit]

Hi, Looking at Category:PD-Art (PD-old default), which now contains 136,605 files, I have to say that our process is broken. This is to be compared with Category:PD Art, which contains approximately 610,000 files. It means that about 22% of PD-Art files have a incomplete license. Correcting that many files manually is a huge work. Any idea how to fix this? Regards, Yann (talk) 10:59, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Are all chemical structures public domain regardless of where they came from?[edit]

I uploaded a (2D) PNG of the chemical structure of a new anticancer drug - I did not render the image myself - I downloaded it off of ChemSpider - What lic do I set the file as? Public Domain? Mfernflower (talk) 08:11, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Assuming you're talking about File:Pacritinib-fixed.png, I don't think it comes within the threshold of originality. Therefore you can add Template:PD-ineligible, which automatically puts it in the public domain. - Nirinsanity (talk) 10:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)