User talk:Fränsmer

Coats of arms

Hi, I hope english is alright for you. I have noticed that you've been replacing some of the existing svg coats of arms files by different version with a different design. I would like to ask you to stop doing so, as most of the work you've been overwriting is coming from the french coats of arms project. I'm including an exemple so you know what I'm talking about. I have already reversed back a few of them but you seem to have replaced quite a lot already. If you really feel the need to include your version, I would ask you to please upload them as a different file so you don't destroy other people's work. Thank you for your understanding -- Espandero (talk) 16:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I think the best way to deal with this problem is to use Fränsmer's files (uploaded separately - I have started doing this, eg. Fribourg) on the German Wikipedia, where non-3D-effect files are preferred and continue using the 3D-effect files on the French Wikipedia. --GemeindeHeraldiker (talk) 09:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Well... after all the time it feels pointless to argue against these people of French CoA project. There is no sense for heraldic standards, no sense that these 3D-style is absolutely non-heraldic. They do mass production, ignore individual crest styles etc. Well, and if you edit, use the good part of their work and put it on a more heraldic level, they tell you, you "destroy" other people's work.

How is it "destroying", when you act more respectable with the with the certain town, their CoA and the Heraldiker himself and improve ignorant sub standard "work"? It's irritating to see they work against these improvements just to peg on their sub standard non-heraldic work.

Thank you @GemeindeHeraldiker: for reuploading. But it is hard to see, that these 3D drawings now keep our file name standard CHE Town COA.svg while the correct ones have to be on a different one. I'd suggest CH Town COA.svg instead. Fränsmer (talk) 15:15, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

The design with the reflexion was chosen so we could avoid copyright problems, and now we are sticking with them because we would like to have the same type of coat of arms on every article on the French Wikipedia. I do not ask you to agree with it, but please respect the will of the French COA project. As for your revert of the File:Freiburg-coat of arms.svg, please note that I discused it with the uploader (I did not notice that he reuploaded one of your works). I never said it was not OK to overwrite files with obvious errors. Skyblue is not a heraldic color and your version does not represent the real coat of arms of Fribourg (you will find the real version on this website, in "Wappen - Statistiken - Ausgewählte Bibliografie und Links"). You have mistaken the logo of the city for its COA. Please be reasonable and let the corrected version be. Kind regards, Espandero (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

To be more precise, I like GemeindeHeraldiker's vision. You can upload your own versions and use them however you like, and you can also let us use the ones we like. This way we have the best of both worlds. There is no need to fight or get angry. Heraldic is not an exact science and the only thing that mathers is that the COA respects the definition given for it (color wise also). Thank you for understanding, kind regards, Espandero (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I only chose sky blue or a light blue by a reason. Sadly I do not really remember why I chose a light blue for Fribourg. So yeah, you're right, I have no real argument for that right now.

On the other hand there are skyblue COA in literature while the blazon says azur. Here I have a copy of Christian Wolff, L'armorial des communes du Bas-Rhin, Strasbourg, Archives départementales du Bas-Rhin, 1995. In that book blue is always a lighter bright blue although blazons say azur. So whenever I'll upload a COA from Bas-Rhin with skyblue parts, there will be a reason.

Not very surprising, I don't agree with the "equalization" idea of the French COA Project as I see every single COA as a single case with it's own history. The example of Fribourg shows how much get lost when "squeeze it into a standard shape". But on the other hand I can respect what you do within french Wikipedia while y'all also respect when German COA Project goes a more individual way with each COA.

I just do not understand why there are COA outside of the spectre of your unified shield but with that 3D effect. What is the reason to insist on the 3D effect on file:Wappen Ruckeroth.svg? Fränsmer (talk) 13:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

File:Flag of Salzburg, Vienna, Vorarlberg.svg

File:Flag of Salzburg, Vienna, Vorarlberg.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

2001:448A:11A6:13AF:8C68:B030:C0CA:D64 10:11, 21 September 2023 (UTC)