User talk:Ambross07

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Amazon versus Amazone[edit]

These are NOT the same names !!!! --Stunteltje (talk) 10:47, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Both are variations of the same name, one in English, one in German. And don't shout at my talk! --Ambross07 (talk) 10:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
You have to be an expert to know that and normal users aren't. So please don't move the AMAZON to AMAZONE, it confuses the regular user. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I think, it's no problem to put this little fact into the description of the category. --Ambross07 (talk) 11:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
That is no problem indeed, als long as you also leave the name AMAZONE in Category:Ships by name. Of course you can also copy categories with AMAZONE to Category:Ships named Amazon, if you think it is usefull for German users. Lets keep trying to make finding ships by name as easy as possible, that was the intension of the category. --Stunteltje (talk) 11:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I have splittet the categories, now there is Category:Ships named Amazon and Category:Ships named Amazone, which both are in Category:Ships by name. I think, it's ok that way and I hope, you think so too. --Ambross07 (talk) 11:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
O.K. thanks, that is much better. What you can do is making it disabiguation categories, like Category:Columbia (ship), with images. That works faster in finding certain ships. If you should rename the categories simple as being Category:Amazon (ship) and Category:Amazone (ship), you are working in line with many other ships. In that case you don't need DEFAULTSORT --Stunteltje (talk) 11:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
But what's about finding these categories and navigate between them? Category:Ships by name could be a bit smaller and more user-friendly by combine the categories of ships with the same name, I think.
We are not short of space in Commons, as far as I know. The advantage is in the sorting in Category:Ships by name. If somebody takes the time to create a category <<name>> (ship), this category is sorted before the categories: <name> (ship, <year of completion>). If there are images given in this category together with the ship categories, it works faster. Thats all. I don't see much navigating here, but that can be my problem. --Stunteltje (talk) 12:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
But these categories <name> (ship) are not listet in the category Ship by name? Is there a way to see all existing disabiguation ship-categories? --Ambross07 (talk) 13:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
They are listed there also, but not always. It depends on the user who creates these categories. Se for an example how I did it via a gallery: Commonwealth (ship).

But others used categories, like Category:Benicia (ship). --Stunteltje (talk) 13:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I have created Amazon (ship) and Amazone (ship), which are listet in Category:Ships named Amazon and Category:Ships named Amazone. --Ambross07 (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
It differs from how I did it, but this works perhaps even faster. When someone looks for Amazone (ship) the correct directories are shown immediately via an immage. I think we have a good result of the discussion. --Stunteltje (talk) 15:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Seems if not everybody wants galleries as disasambiguation: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] --Ambross07 (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Ships named tiger[edit]

Hi Ambross07,

Thanks for creating this new category. It's probably useful for someone looking for such ships.

Please note that it shouldn't be included in the category for all ship specific categories (Category:Ships by name) as it's not about a specific ship. The description at Ships by name explains how a new ship category can be created. --  Docu  at 10:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Docu, I have created this category and some other because of new articles, I wrote for I think, these categories must be in Category:Ships by name. They are not for specific ships, but for specific names of ships and the include specific ships. There is only one more level of categories, in which all ships, which have/had the same name, are concerted. And category descriptions can be changed. --Ambross07 (talk) 15:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with the categories "Ships named ..." exept the fact that they don't belong to Category:Ships by name, see Docu. That category was created to make a direct connection to a certain ship, where one has to make two steps now. No problem at all to do that in the, but I disagree with this system in Commons. I had my doubts earlier, but waited for other comments. So please be so kind to recategorise the individual ships with Category:Ships by name. --Stunteltje (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
But then please tell me where all these categories can be collected in one main category. It would be not fortunate if all Ships named... categories have no such main category. But it also would be a parallel category structure to Ships by name. --Ambross07 (talk) 22:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I do'nt see any problem in Category:Ship names for categories and galleries for "Ships named ..." .I cleaned that gallery by redirecting the images there. --Stunteltje (talk) 06:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I just don't understand what you mean. When the "Ships named..." categories do not belong to "Ships by name" but to "Ship names", then we can can create an extra category which is a subcategory to "Ship names" an which all "Ships named..." categories belong to. I just don't know how to name such a category. --Ambross07 (talk) 08:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I created the category:Ships with the same name for this purpose and transferred two of your categories to show how it works. Fine to me, lot of work to do. --Stunteltje (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for this. I think, it's a good way to deal with these categories. One more thing clarified. --Ambross07 (talk) 17:52, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrol given[edit]

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Hello. You seem to have a mistaken idea of what categories are for. They are to help editors find useful images, not to categorize everything that appears in the photograph. For example, in this photo, we could add the categories Category:Flags, Category:Street lights, and Category:Sky, and Category:People, among other things. None of those are useful categories, because this photograph is not a good candidate to illustrate those topics. The photo of Schlesien is not a good illustration of the Brandenburg class battleships, and so adding a category for them does not make sense. More importantly, a non-expert would see the photo show up in the category and mistakenly assume that the ship that is the subject of the photograph is a Brandenburg class battleship - in that case, the category is misleading and therefore problematic. Parsecboy (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Category:Noorderlicht (ship, 1910)[edit]

Special reason why you deleted nl:Noorderlicht (zeilschip)? --Stunteltje (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

There is a link to the article in the description of the category. The link on the left schould link a commons category to a wikipedia category, not to a wikipedia article. --Ambross07 (talk) 09:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I have seen those links for other ships to articles, but no problem. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2014 (UTC)