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Should CCBYSA be removed from this recent scan of an 1885 French photograph?[edit]

The file Esprit Jouffret.jpg [1] is marked CC-BY-SA (per OTRS ticket #2014081810018327), however that file is a scan of the underlying photograph, which was taken in 1885 and therefore should be in the public domain. Since the scan does not add originality/authorship, shouldn't the file be marked as public domain-expired too?

There is a nod to this in the file's source: "Scan of the original photograph Photo de famille. Tombée dans le domaine public, pas de droits d'auteurs / date 1885." Google translates "Tombée dans le domaine public" as "fallen into the public domain."

Can we update the license on this file to PD? Thanks. --Bradleee

Who was the photographer and in which year did he die? --Krd 19:26, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Unsure who the photographer was (though the file does indicate that it was a "family photo"). My question was more about internal consistency: some data about the photo explicitly says (albeit in French) that it is PD, while it is also tagged CC-BY-SA. Both can't be correct. Is there a way to dig into OTRS and see whether they addressed this issue in the initial review? --Bradleee
French speaker required. --Krd 22:11, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Orliflame3.jpg[edit]

These pictures of Dutch actress Victoria Koblenko appear to be from the same photoshoot: File:Orliflame3.jpg (duplicate at File:Victoria Koblenko - face shot.jpg) and File:Vkoblenko.jpg. Only the last picture has an OTRS-ticket attached. Does the permission also cover the other photo? (By the way: there has been some discussion about the photo before, see [2].) Buxtehude (talk) 22:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I can't seem to access that ticket, so does that mean it was not sent to permissions? Anon126 ( ) 18:35, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Ticket is in info-nl and in nl language. (I can only see but not move it.) --Krd 18:41, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Farid Bang image[edit]

Could someone please double-check permission for this file: File:Farid_Bang_2013.jpg; TicketNumber=2013020710007443. May be in German. --Rayukk (talk) 17:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@Krd: who handled that ticket. Green Giant (talk) 20:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
@Green Giant: I suppose the requested double check shall be done by someone who did not handle the ticket? --Krd 22:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Shorin 3D 2010.jpg, File:Shorin 7sky 2007.jpg, File:Shorin HA 2014.jpg, File:Shorin portret.jpg[edit]

I uploaded 4 files and then asked this artist to send a letter to OTRS. He did it from Dima.shorin@mail.ru But now I see these files are deleted and nobody noticed us. Why? :( --Gruznov (talk) 12:48, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Gruznov, I have just searched OTRS and the only email I can find from that address is from 2011. Is it possible he has sent it to a different address? Green Giant (talk) 17:43, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Hmmm...it's very strange! But now he repeated his email with links to deleted files. Check it. --Gruznov (talk) 13:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Byblos Bank Headquarters.JPG[edit]

I noticed that Ankry restored this file after processing today. Since the subject of the photo is a recently constructed (1999–2002) building in Lebanon, which has no applicable freedom of panorama exception, does the ticket also contain the required permission from Samir Khairallah & Partners? LX (talk, contribs) 17:50, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

No, there does not seem to be permission from the architect. I will tag appropriately. Anon126 ( ) 19:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Byblos Bank Headquarters.JPG. Green Giant (talk) 21:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Contents of Shahid Blog[edit]

This web site has published its contents under GFDL license, according to the text written at the bottom of its first the page. Can we use the contents of this website, such as text or images? How? Mhhossein (talk) 08:15, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

No, because whoever maintains that blog doesn't seem to care that they do not have the right to issue a valid license for the photos that they use. For example, the photo at http://shahidblog.com/2014/11/12/thouasnds-attend-funeral-for-palestinian-killed-by-israel/ was created by Reuters, who don't allow publication of their photos under a free license. LX (talk, contribs) 18:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
@LX: Yeah, but how about using the pics that they own?Mhhossein (talk) 07:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Having checked a few other of the images on that site, I don't believe they own any of the images they show. Lupo 12:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@LX, Lupo: That's not right, they own some of the images but may be don't know how to use the GFDL license. I think they should be aware of the problems they are making. Perhaps I do it in a later time. Btw, what shoul be done for a web site to be useable here? Mhhossein (talk) 08:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Every single image from [3] appears to come from somewhere else. Including images watermarked with their site name, for instance [4] was apparently already published in 2012 at [5]. Lupo 09:43, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Mhhossein, on what do you base your assertion that they own some of the images? How do you know this? Do you have any personal connection to the site? Can you give an example of an image that you think they own? LX (talk, contribs) 11:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
LupoLX I don't know how to check whether a pic is used in other websites or not. It was not an assertion, I guessed they might be a branch of Foundation of Martyrs and Veterans Affairs which owns some photographs from the Iran-Iraq war. I don't know them personally but I'll try to get in touch with them and explain the problem with their website! Mhhossein (talk) 06:23, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Twin Sisters, San Jacinto.jpg[edit]

Regarding this Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Runaway Scrape, I had the above image in the article Runaway Scrape. A reviewer mentioned the image needs a US freedom of panorama licence/tag added to the image description page. Because this has an ORTS tag on it, I need to confirm the permission. And if you concur it is licensed, if it needs the US freedom of panorama licence/tag, please add it. If it is licensed and does not require the tag, please be specific about it here. Thank you for your time. Maile66 (talk) 13:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

✓  Confirmed permission for the photo.
However, FoP in the U.S. only applies to buildings, so I do not believe this qualifies. Certain sources say that the replicas depicted in the photo were created in 1985, so they would still be copyrighted. Anon126 ( ) 19:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I've opened a deletion request in light of this situation. Anon126 ( ) 19:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Then I'm glad the issue came up so it could be dealt with. Thank you. Maile66 (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

File:P958X1.JPG[edit]

I would like to reuse ticket #2011041510026961 image made by 1800Classic for a laptop sticker on my own. My email is <email>. Name: Nandor Teremi. If you have anything else to ask me please email me. Thanks: Nandor

Dear Wiki

I forgot file name: P958X1.JPG ticket: ticket #2011041510026961 Owner: 1800Classic I would like to reuse the picture for a laptop sticker. My name is Nandor Teremi email: <email> Thank you for your reply. Best Wishes: Nandor

Hi, Nandor. I can confirm that the permission in the ticket is valid. This means you can use the photo if you follow the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license or the GNU Free Documentation License. (You can choose either one, though many will prefer the first one.) Please read the terms carefully. One important requirement is that you release any derivative works under the same license. Anon126 ( ) 17:09, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Alexander Calder painted Douglas DC-8 for Braniff AIrways 1973.jpg[edit]

There is apparently some concern about the validity of the OTRS ticket (ticket:2014022410016659) for this image. If an OTRS agent could weigh in at the deletion request, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! —Mr. Granger (talk  · contribs) 15:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

One already commented on the DR itself but it would appear that the permission in valid. Rjd0060 (talk) 22:19, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Backlog count needs an update[edit]

At the top of this page there appears the text, "The current backlog of the (English) permissions-commons queue is: 12 days." However, I've got requests in the queue which are almost a week older than that. I see Commons:OTRS/backlog hasn't been updated since 25 October. Perhaps an OTRS volunteer could revise the number to its current value? —Psychonaut (talk) 09:41, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Should it count only new tickets (no responses)? Or should it count tickets that have been replied to but have not yet been closed? Anon126 ( ) 17:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
"by days" is hard to understand. Maybe we should change the stats to "unread tickets". Privacy issues? --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
It should be the time one should expect to wait for an initial response. That's the type of figure typically provided in other contexts (e.g. customer support SLAs). Anything else depends too much on external factors. LX (talk, contribs) 17:25, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Sometimes the initial response is after one day, sometimes after weeks. --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Of course, that's why we need a statement saying what the current delay is. Or are you saying that tickets are processed out of order? That would be a separate issue. LX (talk, contribs) 17:33, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Difficult tickets are waiting longer for a initial response ;). --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
The oldest ticket without any response is 20 days old. I've updated it to reflect that. Anon126 ( ) 17:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

ticket:2014100710022927[edit]

Hello, could somebody please checkup on ticket:2014100710022927 and see if it is applicable to File:The Dufresne House 04.jpg ([6], [7]) and File:The Dufresne House 11.jpg ([8], [9])? Thanks! -FASTILY

@Fastily: The exchanges state that all images in Category:Photographs by Michael M. Fieldman are covered. I am not sure if those two fall under that.
Also, I'd like to ask some other agents to review the permission, as I do not believe it is sufficient.:
Anon126 ( ) 19:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Alisun J&B.jpg[edit]

Hi. The author of the picture has the same name than the person who was manning the boat in the picture. It's unlikely that the sailor himself took this picture. Does the OTRS ticket actually confirm that the photographer agreed to having his/her work licensed under a free license? Thanks. 24.5.42.183 20:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Also full disclosure, I am User:Badzil that requested the permission being added for this file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Alisun_J%26B.jpg&diff=74757330&oldid=67355491. 24.5.42.183 20:15, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Tih s2 juh 3.jpg[edit]

Hi, The query template is not addressed after almost one year. What should be done for this? Mhhossein (talk) 03:09, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Have you asked the person who raised the query, 99of9? Green Giant (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
The uploader has not been active for years, but I've just posted a query on their talk page. Unless they respond, I think the best course of action would be to replace the usage with files we are more confident about, and then nominate this for deletion. --99of9 (talk) 09:51, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
@99of9: Symbol keep vote.svg Agree Mhhossein (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Permission[edit]

i need permission to use this picture in a personal video — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.202.35 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 14 December 2014‎ (UTC)

Does the picture have a name? Unfortunately none of us are mind-readers. Green Giant (talk) 04:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

ticket 2013062010002201[edit]

File:Faqr-e-Iqbal.png, File:Sultan Bahoo The Life and Teachings.png and File:Mujtaba Akhar Zamani.png are claimed by uploader to have a permission under the said ticket. However, it's missing confirmation by OTRS. --Túrelio (talk) 09:07, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

The ticket appears to give blanket permission for images from three websites (http://www.sultanulfaqr.com, http://www.tehreekdawatefaqr.com, and http://www.sultanulfaqr.tv). And yes, it look legit. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:15, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Tove_Dahlberg_opera_singer.jpg[edit]

Could someone have a look at this[10] deletion debate? An OTRS email was received in the end, but apparently it was not sufficient. As I indicated in the deletion nomination "Attribution" could strictly speaking be sufficient, based on what is stated at the subject's website. Buxtehude (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

The ticket is ticket:2014110610010994, but it doesn't actually contain a permission statement of any sort. It's just an editor asking for advice on the template to use and ends with the statement "I hope the photographer emails me soon". HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
O.K., thanks. There was a discussion with user 'Tove Dahlberg', but without a way to verify the identity of this user it is not possible to rely on the claims that were made. Buxtehude (talk) 12:00, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Permission ticket #2013012410011194.[edit]

Hi, I'd like to check the permissions on the file Steve_Blank.jpg, ticket #2013012410011194.

The permission looks fine. Eitan96 (talk) 08:58, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

World Aviation[edit]

Some of my uploads have been tagged as "missing permissions". General permission was sent for one of the images, which applies to the rest as well. Please refer to {{PermissionOTRS|id=2014112310015617|Green Giant}}{{self|cc-by-sa-4.0|author=Ahura Khaleghi Yazdi}}. 6th Common Sense (talk) 19:33, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

@6th Common Sense: I've removed the tags. Sorry for the confusion. Anon126 ( ) 03:08, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
THanks Anon126. There's a few others as well, which still have the "missing permissions" and which are in line with the same OTRS approval. 6th Common Sense (talk) 14:44, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Jylla-aula.jpg, File:Jyllailma.jpg and File:Jyllaruokala.jpg[edit]

Do these files have a valid OTRS permission? These files have been deleted two times before from Commons as they are copyvios from this website if they don't have an OTRS permission. --Msaynevirta (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Found ticket #2014120410015606 in Finnish. A machine translation suggests that the owner understands the conditions of a free license, but no license was specified. However, someone who can actually speak Finnish should review it. For now, I've tagged them with {{OTRS received}} Anon126 ( ) 03:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

ticket otrs:2012021710000834[edit]

Could I please check the permissions on this image? I would like to modify and use if possible

Name of file: File:Greek - Calyx-Krater with Driver, Chariot, and Three Horses - Walters 482060 - Right Side.jpg

Thanks Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottd1000 (talk • contribs)

✓Confirmed Alan (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Alan (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

permission requested[edit]

I am requesting permission to use (Cain and Able) ticket #2012051610007039 as an illustration for my poem. Carolyn Long Silvers. grannysilvers@hotmail.com

All images with this ticket are free to use under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. The main requirements are:
  • You must give credit. For example: Credit: Sweet Publishing (www.sweetpublishing.com), from Wikimedia Commons [URL to the specific image], available under CC BY-SA 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
  • If you publish your work, you must make it available under the same license.
Anon126 ( ) 04:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Picture of Pierre Karl Péladeau[edit]

Hello, I sent the permission I received for this picture of Pierre Karl Péladeau many days ago and nothing happened, can you guys help me out? Thanks!

Photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PKP2015.jpg

--SharQc (talk) 19:44, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello, SharQc, I've found your message. Unfortunately, I do not believe this permission is acceptable. We cannot accept permission for Wikipedia only; the permission has to be for everyone to use (subject to conditions like giving credit). You should have the photographer send a message according to the format on this page, so we know that the rights holder is aware of the conditions. Anon126 ( ) 05:09, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
A French speaker should examine ticket #2014121310011085. Anon126 ( ) 05:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)