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Should CCBYSA be removed from this recent scan of an 1885 French photograph?[edit]

The file Esprit Jouffret.jpg [1] is marked CC-BY-SA (per OTRS ticket #2014081810018327), however that file is a scan of the underlying photograph, which was taken in 1885 and therefore should be in the public domain. Since the scan does not add originality/authorship, shouldn't the file be marked as public domain-expired too?

There is a nod to this in the file's source: "Scan of the original photograph Photo de famille. Tombée dans le domaine public, pas de droits d'auteurs / date 1885." Google translates "Tombée dans le domaine public" as "fallen into the public domain."

Can we update the license on this file to PD? Thanks. --Bradleee

Who was the photographer and in which year did he die? --Krd 19:26, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Unsure who the photographer was (though the file does indicate that it was a "family photo"). My question was more about internal consistency: some data about the photo explicitly says (albeit in French) that it is PD, while it is also tagged CC-BY-SA. Both can't be correct. Is there a way to dig into OTRS and see whether they addressed this issue in the initial review? --Bradleee
French speaker required. --Krd 22:11, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
@Yann: please could you have a look at this? Green Giant (talk) 01:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Seeing the date, there is little doubt that the author is dead for more than 70 years (born around 1860 or before). IMO the license should be {{Anonymous-EU}} or {{PD-old-70}}. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
In the EU the first publisher of a previously unpublished work is entitled to a 25 year publication right, even if the original copyright term has expired. If this is a family photo that has never previously been made available to the public, it is possible that the upload by the contributor to Commons is the first publication of the photo, and as such the scan will not be PD in France until January 1, 2038. I don't think we can remove the CC-BY-SA license without details about the publication and exhibition history of this photo. However, if we know the original photographer has been dead for 70 years, the license could probably be changed to {{Licensed-PD-Art|PD-old-70|Cc-by-sa-3.0-heirs}}. —RP88 (talk) 02:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Farid Bang image[edit]

Could someone please double-check permission for this file: File:Farid_Bang_2013.jpg; TicketNumber=2013020710007443. May be in German. --Rayukk (talk) 17:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@Krd: who handled that ticket. Green Giant (talk) 20:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
@Green Giant: I suppose the requested double check shall be done by someone who did not handle the ticket? --Krd 22:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Alisun J&B.jpg[edit]

Hi. The author of the picture has the same name than the person who was manning the boat in the picture. It's unlikely that the sailor himself took this picture. Does the OTRS ticket actually confirm that the photographer agreed to having his/her work licensed under a free license? Thanks. 24.5.42.183 20:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Also full disclosure, I am User:Badzil that requested the permission being added for this file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Alisun_J%26B.jpg&diff=74757330&oldid=67355491. 24.5.42.183 20:15, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Asav:, who handled that ticket. Green Giant (talk) 01:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I've had to (temporarily) give up my OTRS account since I've been on the move lately. I hope someone else can pick this up. Asav (OTRS) | Talk 01:24, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Permission[edit]

I don´t know if I am right here, but i sent an e-mail (according to this templates) in which i told the owner of the pictures to send his permission to use his pictures to this "permissions-commons-de@wikimedia.org" e-mail-adress. How do i know now, if i have the permission to use the pictures? --Impériale (talk) 21:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Impériale, an OTRS agent could check but we need some more information e.g. the name of the file(s). Green Giant (talk) 22:39, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I need this picture but i didn´t upload it yet. Or should I upload it first and then ask for permission? The more I look on this page, the more do I think that I need all pictures of this page. Please consider this if you go on :) --Impériale (talk) 22:54, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I have just checked the commons queues at OTRS and there does not appear to be an email about this. I would recommend that you forward your email conversation to the same Wikimedia email address. Then upload the images that you have permission for and add the {{OTRS pending}} template in either the license section or the permissions line together with the license that has been set. This will give thirty days for the copyright holders email to come through. If there is no sign of anything happening, ask at this noticeboard again after a couple of weeks. If the files are deleted, and the permission email comes through later, the files can easily be restored. Green Giant (talk) 23:48, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I think this is not possible because I sent it via this page. Sorry I think i didn´t understand this correctly: First uploading, asking the copyright holders and then waiting for the permission or waiting for the permission and then uploading? --Impériale (talk) 00:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
@Impériale: You should wait for the permission first, then upload. After uploading, you can forward the e-mails to permissions-commons-at-wikimedia.org. I believe it will still be possible to get the e-mail. Anon126 ( ) 21:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I will try it. And how do I know that I got the permission? --Impériale (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
User:Impériale has raised an interesting question, for those of us who are still new to Commons but haven't been able to find a clear answer. How exactly will we be notified when permission has been approved/rejected? Will an OTRS volunteer respond to our e-mail(s) or will existing images on Commons just be tagged for deletion/OTRS approval depending on the decision? --Katangais (talk) 21:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
If it is a file that you have uploaded, then you should add it to your watchlist, which will ensure you are notified if and when the file is tagged by anyone. You can do this by clicking on the "watch" tab at the top of the page. If, as in this case, you have no idea when the copyright holder will send their e-mail, then I would recommend asking at this noticeboard every once in a while, but maybe not every day. If you have had a reply from the copyright holder, then you can upload the file, mark it with {{subst:OP}} and ask the copyright holder to include the URL of the Commons file in their email. At the moment, the backlog in the queues I have access to is currently more than 700 emails. A lot of them are spammers using the Christmas/New Year period to send out their "contributions" to world peace etc. I have searched for various combinations of the website name, the brand name and "Impériale" but there is nothing. It would be worthwhile contacting the copyright holder again and asking whether they have sent the license yet. It is always helpful if you ask them to include your e-mail address in the CC line. Green Giant (talk) 02:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Drawings[edit]

A number of portrait drawings done from photos and/or video stills. See

All clearly derivative works of the photos; photos taken at different times by different photographers and published on different sites. Somehow I doubt that the tickets cover the base photos. (Would need to include a release from photographer giving his OK to creating derivative works and publishing those under a free license.) Could someone please check? Lupo 11:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Plus
Lupo 14:02, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Procedure when we don't have any OTRS members for a language[edit]

(ping: User:Spiritia)
What is the procedure when we have OTRS requests come in through a language we don't speak? Specifically, in this case, Bulgarian, of which I cannot find any volunteers listed. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:41, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Khm22[edit]

Photos uploaded by said user back in 2009 looks very dubious to me becuase of low resolution. I found some high resolution photos over web. --Saqib (talk) 01:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Saqib, could you provide some links to the hi-res photos? Green Giant (talk) 11:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Juanjose1956[edit]

Estimados Señores OTRS

Por lo que me informo Eugenio Zelenko , envie mail con los datos solicitados para la reposición de las fotograias sibidas por mi

Mi mail es juanjose19562014@gmail.com

Esperando su respuesta a los mail enviados Saluda a ustedes --Juanjose1956 (talk) 23:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Juanjose1956: No vale reenviar el mensaje por mútiples veces. Encontré el mensaje y solicité que las fotografías se restauren. Anon126 ( ) 07:30, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't know Spanish :-( Could you please clarify, did you ask somebody for files restoration of you need help with that? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:22, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I restored images, but OTRS ticket still need to be added and deletion template removed. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:35, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Anon y Eugenio , muchas gracias y espero seguir contribuyendo a su distinguida enciclopedia en forma correcta


--Juanjose1956 (talk) 12:25, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

 No hecho : Deseo notar que esto no ya se ha resuelto. Existe otra discusión en Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2015-01#Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Juanjose1956 y User talk:Anon126#fotografías subidas por mi. No sé cómo proceder en este caso; por eso pido que otros lo repasen.
 Not done : I wish to note that this has not yet been resolved. There is other discussion at Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2015-01#Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Juanjose1956 and User talk:Anon126#fotografías subidas por mi. I don't know how to proceed in this case, so I ask that others review it.
Anon126 ( ) 07:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by ŠimekMT[edit]

Hello OTRS. Robert Šimek from Cezch Republic here. I´m original member from the metal band MALIGNANT TUMOUR. Few days ago I uploaded some pictures from the band to wikimedia commons:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MALIGNANT_TUMOUR.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MT_1995.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MT_2000.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MT_2005.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MT_2010.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MT_2013.jpg

I have all rights reserved for these band pictures and I want to put to wikimedia commons to see and download everybody.

Please cancel "nominate for deletion".

Thank you.

Best regards

Šimek & http://www.malignanttumour.com/

Status of 2014051410017493[edit]

Hi! A set of 46 photos were uploaded in 2014 by two users (Ombra + Mazzarò), sourced with http://www.divisionecalcioa5.it/ (links). Could somebody please checkup on ticket:2014051410017493 and see if it is applicable?. Thx in advance. Gunnex (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

There were two separate tickets (combined into the above ticket number) but it will require an Italian agent. Rjd0060 (talk) 21:55, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
My sensei Delfort may explain the status better than me :) --Ombra (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Ayers Rock - Angel - Violin part.jpg[edit]

Enquiry re File:Ayers Rock - Angel - Violin part.jpg OTRS ticket number not yet available.

Completed permission form sent 20 Dec 2014 from russell.davies2@bigpond.com. Form sent again today (23 Jan 2015) UTC from the copyright holder collock2004@gmail.com

Does the template showing "image is missing verification of permission" need to be altered to avoid the image being deleted? Thanks CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 23:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Keeani Lei[edit]

Some of the photos in Category:Keeani Lei carry an OTRS ticket, but it seems a bit strange that Keeani Lei is the author of these professional looking photos. Some of them are fairly small or cropped from larger shots like File:Keeani Lei 3.jpg and the shots at porno run. Could an OTRS person check if the ticket is correct? I don't know the ticket number because there just seem to be links. FredWalsh (talk) 21:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Confirm permission: 1969 AT&T Picturephone[edit]

It was stated in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videophone#mediaviewer/File:AT%26T_Picturephone_-_upper_RH_oblique_view.jpg that I need to leave a message here to confirm the permission. The ticket is https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2009101910061435

Whwb (talk) 01:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Whwb. You do not need to leave a message here unless you have specific questions about the permission for this image, which has already been accepted and archived. As you can see on the image description page, the file is Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported licensed, meaning you simply need to attribute it as specified in the license tag ("Courtesy: LabguysWorld.com") and note the CC-BY-3.0 license. I hope this helps. Bobamnertiopsis (talk) 04:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Bobamnertiopsis (talk) 05:47, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I am the copyright owner of all that deleted pics[edit]

Hi, two of my pics just got deleted. But... I, René Kamenz, took all the pictures, I edited them, I created the final pics, CD Covers, Logos or whatever. In this case the deleted files are: File:Cover neu.jpg and Wiki PKusGE.jpg

I am the only copyright owner of each picture with "Peter Kamenz und seine Goldenen Egerländer" — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiegfriedWhite (talk • contribs) 16:29, 27 January 2015‎ (UTC)

I'm not sure what was unclear about the instructions given here, here and here. If you designed these logotypes and CD covers, you need to follow the instructions at Commons:OTRS. Of course, if you simply took some photos of copyrighted, non-free CD covers and logos created by other people, then doing so does not magically "liberate" them from their legitimate copyright holders and make them your own works. LX (talk, contribs) 00:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Strangers Within film poster.jpg[edit]

I hereby affirm that I, Liam Hooper, am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of http://farm8.staticflickr.com//7482//16348623451_d5817f049e_k.jpg

I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International.

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Liam Hooper Copyright holder 27.01.2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamhoops (talk • contribs) 23:55, 27 January 2015‎ (UTC)

That's not how this works. You've been asked to read Commons:OTRS. Where on that page did it say that you should post the declaration above on this page? Doing so proves absolutely nothing (and neither does uploading the file to Flickr long after it's been published elsewhere, including your first attempt at uploading here). What we need is an e-mail from an @2050films.co.uk e-mail address. LX (talk, contribs) 00:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

LX Thanks for the reply. I have already emailed from my business account but we actually don't have any working email addresses set up on the 2050 domain, the info@2050films.co.uk address is currently down while we raise funds to pay for more google apps. I can provide personal identification if that's a suitable alternative? —liamhoops

Samito1050ː Request for ticket number for "Request/s to undelete files"[edit]

Hi, fellow Wikipedians and volunteers to OTRSǃ

First, I thank you for making this community self-regulated. If I had more experience, I would volunteer to help you with your backlog. As is, I lack the hours, but I am gung-ho to fortify my knowledge of how Wikipedia works. Currently my issueː I'd like to request ticket numbers for Requests to undelete images, sent via my email, samito1050̊(at)̜-------, to permissions-commons(at)wikimedia.org.

Attached in two emails, with the headings "Request to undelete files" and "Request to undelete file," are proofs of permissions from Cheryl Tiu and Anton Del Castillo releasing their images to Commons. These attachments are as followsː

Letter for Wikipedia.pdf (from Cheryl Tiu), and Letter from Anton Del Castillo.jpg

The email was sent last January 23.

May I request for a ticket number? Many thanks.

Samito1050 (talk) 09:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)