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Welcome to the Village pump proposals section[edit]

This Wikimedia Commons page is used for making proposals relating to the operations, technical issues, and policies of Wikimedia Commons; it is distinguished from the main Commons:Village pump, which handles community-wide discussion of all kinds. Discussions here should be of wide interest; those which are more specific may be moved to the main Village Pump, with a note left here. The page may also be used to advertise significant discussions taking place elsewhere, such as on the talk page of a Commons policy. For old discussions, see the Archive. Recent sections with no replies for 14 days may be archived.

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RfC: Should we request Wikidata Phase 2 to be activated on Commons?[edit]

Wikidata Phase 2 would allow templates to draw information from Wikidata, though only from the unique Wikidata item that was directly 1:1 sitelinked with the page.

(For a short introduction to Wikidata, see Commons:Structured data/Short introduction to Wikidata)

In practice, the effect of this would be limited, because really only gallery pages would be able to access wikidata items with very much useful information. But it would mean we could try out gallery headers that come with an automatic link to the Commons category, an automatic link to any language-localised Wikipedia entry, an automatic language-localised description, and automatic links to corresponding pages (if any) on Wikisource, Wikiquote, and the corresponding page on Wikidata, and Reasonator. A very basic prototype for such a template can be seen tested at d:Template:SimpleCommonsGalleryHeader/test -- obviously, it could be made a lot more polished.

I think this is something it would be valuable to be able to start to play with. User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) has said she is happy to activate Phase 2 whenever we decide we want it.

So: should we give it a try? Jheald (talk) 14:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Jheald (talk) 14:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Limited use, but it can't harm. The really useful change will be when we can use WD in any template (Creator, Artwork, etc.). Regards, Yann (talk) 14:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Dschwen (talk) 16:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support per above. A "trial (galleryspace) run" is better than no run at all.    FDMS  4    17:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - Andy Mabbett (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Meh, why not -FASTILY 19:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Maybe I would oppose this on Wikipedia, but it seems sensible here. Gestumblindi (talk) 21:53, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Oursana (talk) 23:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support,but I am confused. I was assuming that the reason Wikidata Phase 2 was not activated on Commons was that it was not ready to work in Commons environment, not because nobody thought about activating it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:12, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Atlasowa (talk) 08:23, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support as a necessary step towards COM:Structured data. --El Grafo (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support in principle, but we should be careful about transferring data to Wikidata where they stay outside our control and can in principle be vandalized. Some mechanism should be designed which alerts the page when the local data is not the same ones as stored on Wikidata.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Manuel Schneider(bla) 19:16, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Ziko (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2014 (UTC) 'Control' should be in future more on Wikidata itself, where it will have more impact than on a single wiki
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support -- Christian Ferrer Talk / Im. / Fav. 22:06, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

The sooner we can use this for creator templates, category pages, etc, the better. Andy Mabbett (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)