User talk:Luxo/Archive2008

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Alexz Johnson / Tim Rozon

Thanks very much for rotating this picture!

Much appreciated!

JD Fan 18:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem :) Normally Rotatebot rotates the pictures, but he has problems with this file. Greetings --Luxo 21:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


Rotatebot doesn't seem to be working for the last day or so. If you could fix it so it's running again, that would be great. Thanks.--Pharos 18:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the notification, I working on.--Luxo 10:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick fix!--Pharos 17:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Rotatebot error

Hi, the bot has removed the rotate tag from Image:Pomnik armi ludowej.jpg and Image:00083.jpg but the images wasn't rotated. Would check this please? Thanks. --GeorgHHtalk   13:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. It's probably because of the database-problems at the moment, he don't notice if the upload don't work. I try to fix this bug soon.--Luxo 20:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
*gnah* It's not the Database.. Image name you entered is senseless. Please, choose another one. REALLY good for this bot... :(--Luxo 20:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Bilderbot error

In this edit bilderbot linked to the image as it's own derivative. Not sure but it might be either due to the "RetouchedPicture" template (which links to a version in the file history). Anyhow it might be good to build in a check whihc verifies |other versions=that the link to be added is not the same as the current image name. /Lokal_Profil 19:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

BTW, it's good that such a bot exists, I've seen all to many cases of duplicate derivatives being created because no one linked to the new version from the old. /Lokal_Profil 19:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
uh yes thanks for the notification - thats a bug. I fix that immediately.--Luxo 19:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Bilderbot and description templates

Hi Luxo, I notice your bot adds links to retouched files, which is fine. However, I don't understand why it strips templates. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a bug, sorry. With {{Information at the beginning he identify that as {{Template:Information}}. And because |other versions= isn't in the code jet, he will add it and split the template name. I will fix that as soon as possible. Greetings, --Luxo 18:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

rotating thank you

thanks for managing these fine and helpfull bot Sebastian scha. 18:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure!--Luxo 10:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


Barnstar-camera.png The Photographer's Barnstar
I hereby award you with this Barnstar for making an awesome bot. Especially since I can be that much lazier now. ShakataGaNai Talk 06:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :-) --Luxo 10:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Derivative upload

Im trying to upload a file I altered but the derivativeFX login page wont let me select the Ok - I'm logged in button. Any suggestions? Im using the Safari browser on my Mac. Thanks.Mmcknight4 03:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm normally the button is blocked until your commons user page is loaded... Safari + Mac should work, it's tested. Please confirm that JavaScript is enabled. If it's still not working, please write me your safari version.--Luxo 16:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I've entered the file name, but it only highlights the "enter more original file names" button and not the "Okay" button.Artaxerxes (talk) 12:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Which browser and which operating system (Windows XP, mac, etc.) do you use? --Luxo (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

This is my screen shot. You can see my user page is loaded but the OK button is not clickable. Javascript is enabled. Please let me know what you think. Safari 2.0.4 Thanks.Mmcknight4 (talk) 20:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking for.--Luxo (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Possible DerivativeFX bug?

Thanks for this fantastic tool. I do mostly raster to vector conversions and vector touch-up and as a newbie this has made my work much easier. Thanks.

However, I recently ran into a problem. Using Image:Cell membrane detailed diagram.svg (source as self-made) as an original I got the message that this lacks source information which links to Commons:Incomplete_license which says that the file will be subject to speedy deletion due to potential copyvio. Since I had just created a derivative work Image:Cell membrane detailed diagram 3.svg, I was concerned. Image:Tangent-plot.svg is also self-made and does not generate this message. Can you clarify the status here? Is this a bug? Does this message come from a tag that I cannot see on the description page? Thanks for your time. Dhatfield (talk) 11:42, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm yes and no ;) If you use Template:Pd-user without author parameter, it shows this error message. And my tool include the template without this parameter... so you see this warning although it's ok. I look what I can do --Luxo (talk) 14:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Should be fixed.--Luxo (talk) 14:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll be checking more images that previously had the problem but looks perfect. Dhatfield (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Developer's Barnstar

Developer's Barnstar. I hereby award you with this new and unique Developer's Barnstar for your great work on DerivativeFX. Dhatfield (talk) 13:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't code the Barnstar template, that's not where my skills lie. This Barnstar is quite subtle because the devs are always in the background, working away quietly. As of today, you are the only holder of this unique Barnstar. Dhatfield (talk) 13:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC) Also available at the original Barnstar size. Dhatfield (talk) 13:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ! :) --Luxo (talk) 14:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

A bug in derivativeFX?

I have uploaded this image with derivativeFX, also see what was uploaded without my corrections and noticed two things:

  • the "Description" is messed up;
  • original image was in Category:Green's theorem and I checked a box to include new image in that category. But derivativeFX placed it into

Category:Green. --Gribozavr (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

  • you see the description the tool creates before he generates the whole summary and you can improve it there. Your source file use no template information, so it's hard to extract the right things. But you are right, it should be improved. I will look for this in the next time.
  • thats a bug. thanks for notification, I will fix that fixed. greetings, --Luxo (talk) 18:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I have improved the description generator a bit; now titles should not be in the description anymore.--Luxo (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Yes, I saw the generated summary, and noted that there were headers in the template fields, but it was my second upload (and first use of your tool ;) so I thought that it was intened to be just like that. --Gribozavr (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

User feedback

Great tool; if have a few suggestions to make it even bettter. It recognises the author when it is written in as "own work", but some authors put "self-made" or "self made", which is not recognised. Also, it does not recognise the author in "Image:Agapornis_roseicollis_-Peach-faced_Lovebird_pet_on_perch.jpg", which, I think, is an older format of the flicker upload bot. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

hi Snowmanradio, thanks for your feedback. To extract the author he do the following:
  • Search Template:Information
    • If he find it, he takes the author information from there (from |author=-field)
    • If he find it not, he search for some catchwords, these are "myself", "own work", "selfmade", "self made" and "self-made". If he find some of them, he takes the uploader as author.
the author of your image he can't find because there is Template:Flickr used, and not {{Information}}. I'll look that it parse this in future as well.

thanks, --Luxo (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Great tool, one suggestion

Great tool, i just uploaded Image:Gjenbruk Wikimedia innhold.svg using it. If you query the url using i.e ajax, you'll get javascript data that you can use to find out if the user is logged in or not, so you can drop the iframe where users have to confirm that they are logged in. See also en:JSONKagee 19:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

regrettably not. Load this url using ajax is not possible because of the Same origin policy, I can't load the url from There is no other way than this frame at the moment.--Luxo (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
probably is something practicable with JSON, en:Same_origin_policy#JSON... I'll look for this.--Luxo (talk) 22:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
not possible. there is no way except this frame..--Luxo (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


Looks like derivativeFx is having a hard time extracting author information from the {{Flickr}} template. That said, it's a great tool, I love it! Kelly (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Bad tool

I dislike your tool "Derivate FX". First I am forced to go through 6 different steps (why on six different windows?) then i am stuck with your tool. A window wants me: "Bitte ergänze die Autoren der folgenden Bilder:" (please add/supplement the authors of the following pictures). I added my name in the line: "|Author=*derivative work: ILA-boy (talk)" There is no other way to do this, no further expalnation. I am stuck. Your tool is stealing my time. I am a seasones Commons contributor. But yout tool is not intuitiv. Make it properly work fpr normal users or remove it. --ILA-boy (talk) 10:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

  1. You are not bound with this tool. You can use it or you can use it not. It should be a help, but if you think you are faster with the normal upload form you can use the normal form. no problem.
  2. The tool search for author information in the original picture. If he can't detect the uploader, you must complete it yourself. Simply replace '''PLEASE COMPLETE AUTHOR INFORMATION''' with the author of this original image.

Greetings, --Luxo (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

DerivativeFx & categories

Luxo, is the tool having trouble with categories? More often than not, it seems to have trouble with finding categories, even in obvious cases. I just uploaded Image:Roger Goodell Afghanistan (crop).jpg, and the tool couldn't find the category even though there was just one on the original image. Kelly (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, it would be helpful if the tool autocatically filled in the image name based on the filename of the selected derivative work. Kelly (talk) 19:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It search cats only with CommonSense at the moment and ignore the original categorys. I will fix that. To the image name based on the filename: there are some propositions above. you can simply click on the name you prefer. --Luxo (talk) 21:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Luxo - it would be nice if one of the proposed names was the original filename. Kelly (talk) 01:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
That's nonsense, it makes no sense to use derivativeFX for upload a new version (under the same name) of a file. If you upload a new version, the description of the file remains. So you can use directly the new upload form, that's much faster and the effect is the same...--Luxo (talk) 17:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant that, if I modify Foo.jpg, and save it on my computer as Foo modified.jpg, one of the choices when I upload it should be Foo modified.jpg. But it's not a big deal, I can still manually type it in, or copy/paste from the first block. Kelly (talk) 00:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Aah ok that's a idea :-) I put that on my to-do-list. Thanks,--Luxo (talk) 09:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Luxo's tools

Hello, and first a BIG THANKS for your DerivativeFX which greatly ease Commons' users lifes.

Afterwhat, I come here today to talk to you about this :

This tool is a powerful tool of translation (use with the template {{Translation possible}}), but which :

  • "forget" to upload the image himself to commons ;
  • forget to count the number of translations it made ;
  • have an unfriendly interface.

If you have time, it may be great to re-write and expand its code to first allow direct-upload to commons, like your DerivateFX do. Or to expand your DerivateFX to include such SVG-translation possibility.

Moreover, I also want personnaly thanks your kind effort to ease Wikigraphists lifes, that's really encouraging. Yug (talk) 13:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Yug. Do you speak with Nikola Smolenski about this points? maybe he can fix these himself?--Luxo (talk) 14:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
None, In my opinions, the difficulest points to code and manage are in your hands (you have the code and the rights to upload image automatically), while the simplest points are in Nikola's hands, a code replacing SVG texts. His short source code is provided under GNU. Also, you are the best placed to merge the both ideas. Moreover, I love uniformization, so I prefer if you include this idea and code into your set of bots, than have an other place and an other programmer working on his side and with a totally different looking.
But these are my opinions, and your situation may need other solutions. If your opinions is that Nikola should work on this issue and that you can provide him some lines of Code, I will contact him happily for this. Yug (talk) 15:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
the rights to upload image automatically has every user, for that you must simply have a account. indeed I have some upload scripts, but the bigger part I must code also new. So I would prefer first to ask Nikola to do this, because it's his tool. --Luxo (talk) 15:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I will contact him soon. Yug (talk) 18:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


Is it possible to have RotateBot not rotate images with a "bad" name (where "bad" corresponds to anything matching MediaWiki:Titleblacklist), but rather notify whoever asked that the image be rotated that it must be given a better name? I would like to make that regex apply to everyone, and this is one issue that would arise in doing so. Another alternative is that RotateBot would simply not handle badly-named images - they could be re-categorized to be handled by a human, who would then have to choose a better name. Of course, any other thoughts you have on this matter are most welcome.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 01:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the long answer-time I overlook this section (.oO)... If you change this regex, I don't see a other way than the bot ignore this files... Except you make a exception for accounts with bot - flag, but thats anymore a exception, and I think mediawiki has already enough exceptions. --Luxo (talk) 22:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently no way to give bots an exception anyways. How much of a problem do you think it would be? (ie what proportion of {{rotate}} requests would have to be ignored?) I don't think this can happen in the near future; we have too many badly-named images. But eventually, it would be very nice to implement this.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Until now there are only 4 files of 731 which match the titleblacklist; I quick made a statistic here. I think you should make that regex apply to everyone, and I teach Rotatebot to ignore these files and put {{rename}} on the description page. But particularly most of the images Rotatebot rotates are new images; if upload is blocked for such names Rotatebot won't have a lot of files with bad titles. --Luxo (talk) 16:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hello Luxo/Archive2008!

Thank you for providing images to Wikimedia Commons. Please keep in mind that images uploaded to Commons should be useful to all users of Wikimedia projects. This is possible only if the images can be found by other people.

To allow others to find the images you uploaded here, the images should be in some place that can be found by navigating the category structure. This means that you should put the images into appropriate topic pages, categories, optionally galleries, or both of them (see Commons:Categories). To find good categories for your images, the CommonSense tool may help.

You can find a convenient overview of your uploaded files in this gallery.

The important point is that the images should be placed in the general structure somewhere. There are a large number of completely unsorted images on Commons right now. If you would like to help to place some of those images where they can be found, please do!

Thank you. Sdrtirs (talk) 11:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Please look in the file history, that's not my image.--Luxo (talk) 15:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)