User talk:Multichill/Archives/2008/October

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Category filter

Hi! Why does the -onlyfilter-command filter out Category:1865 deaths and other Category:Deaths by year? See this for example. //moralist (talk) 09:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Category:1865 deaths -> Category:Abraham Lincoln -> Category:Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, Multichill (talk) 10:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for the answer. //moralist (talk) 10:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

populate category.js

Tried it. Good. 200% successful- looked again 300% successful. When you have run it Firefox 3.0.3 XP /3Beta5 on Ubuntu- and click on back-a-page button, it reruns it, so you have two message boxes on the page, click the back button again and you have three.

Which leads to my next point. Can you bot be changed, to process multiple {{populate category}}s on the same category, at the same time. Yes, its Poland again. Often there will be a category for a gmina (district) with no images in but 4 galleries each with the name of a village. It would be more efficient to do all four at the same time- rather than coming back 4 times at hourly intervals. Another example is streets in Berlin-Mitte- yes one gallery for each street!

ClemRutter (talk) 23:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Bot missed images

See Kamionna (województwo małopolskie) and Category:Kamionna. Reason? Havang(nl) (talk) 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Still getting an orange bar ;-) Looks like you found it. Multichill (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Stub pictures

Hi! I think that your bot had put a lot of images in Category:Stub pictures without any reason... (eg) --Jaqen (talk) 16:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Look here

What is this? Havang(nl) (talk) 17:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Skipping population bot

Hi Multichill, is there any way we can signal the population template not to execute in a gallery. I am thinking on oversigth galleries, such as atlas and cases like Category:Canada Post east coast plants. --Foroa (talk) 06:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, you have to explain yourself. Hmm, it looks like WayneRay is destroying categories again btw. Multichill (talk) 08:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I was merely thinking on a situation where the populater was run on global galleries such as Atlases, general overviews (art, paintings, architecture styles) ... and such as between Category:Bruges and Brugge, Category:Cologne and Köln, Category:Squares in Cologne and Neumarkt (Köln). ...
I think that there should be some system to protect to limit possible damage, although I am not sure what the damage can be. --Foroa (talk) 09:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Damage? Take for example Category:Cologne. My bot put 149 uncategorized images in there and than someone diffused the category, seems ok to me. The bot only touches uncategorized images and images in the direct parent categories (Municipalities in North Rhine-Westphalia, Cities by the Rhine & Rhein-Ruhr in this case) anyway, this limits any serious errors. Multichill (talk) 09:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, if the recategorisation is constrained, risks on damage should be minimal when the specified gallery effectively belongs to the category (might be checked ? What happens if a vandal does a populate with Category:Bruges and gallery Köln ?). --Foroa (talk) 10:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
The uncategorized files in Köln will be placed in Category:Bruges. Multichill (talk) 10:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
More precisely: the uncategorised files tagges with Media needing categories..." which is a temporary template, so the risk is even smaller. Havang(nl) (talk) 11:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
However, an unforeseen effect in case of redundant categories here: Category:Tórshavn‎ (the stamps relocated; see also message at User talk:Arne List‎). Havang(nl) (talk) 12:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that the population template should be more selective in recategorisation. In Category:San Lorenzo (Milan), all 14 recategorisations added redundant categories and removed useful categories. I noticed many comparable errors elsewhere too. I would not use the populate template in the Milan related areas as they are very will categorised and the only thing populate can do there is damage. --Foroa (talk) 10:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Quality Image Promotion

Yvonnekroonenberg.jpg
Your image has been reviewed and promoted

Congratulations! Yvonnekroonenberg.jpg, which was produced or nominated by you, was reviewed and has now been promoted to Quality Image status.

If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Quality images candidates.

FYI

I don't like threats. [1] --BerndH (talk) 09:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Threats? I first asked you politely, even after your edit wars, but you kept removing stuff so i asked it somewhat more firmly. If you dont want to play by the rules you will get a warning. It's a shame you can't deal with that. Multichill (talk) 07:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Populate Category:Eurasier

Any idea why populate on Category:Eurasier skips so many images ? --Foroa (talk) 17:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

The images were not tagged as {{uncategorized}}. Multichill (talk) 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Now take a look at Category:Eurasier. Multichill (talk) 22:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Categoriseren bij botverplaatsingen van nl: naar Commons

Hoi Multichill,

De afgelopen tijd wordt niet één afbeelding die vanaf nl:wiki naar Commons verplaatst wordt, voorzien van een categorie. Nu doe ik dit nou steeds handmatig, maar het zorgt we voor een hoop extra werk. Is hier iets aan te doen?

Vriendelijke groeten, Erik1980 (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

CommonSense is stuk (nou ja, heel erg traag) en ik was het wachten zat. Ik was eigenlijk van plan om m'n categorisatie bot er overheen te laten lopen op het moment dat CommonSense weer normaal werkt. Multichill (talk) 22:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Link wijzig titel.jpg

Waarom zet je botje afbeeldingen over die specifiek zijn voor de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia en daarom het beste lokaal kunnen staan? Ciell (talk) 05:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Waarom niet? Waarom lokaal laten staan? Afbeeldingen zijn in scope en de licentie is in orde. Multichill (talk) 07:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Ik dacht dat dat de afspraak was... Moet ik me maar eens gaan buigen over de engelse vertaling, want die had ik niet gemaakt :P. Ciell (talk) 06:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

SP

Hoi,

Ik krijg net een emailtje toe dat de sp niet toestaat dat deze foto's bewerkt worden en dus niet willen dat de foto's gebruikt worden onder een vrije licentie. Ik ga zo nog een net emailtje terug sturen.

Groetjes, Sterkebaktalk 10:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Probeer ze over te halen zou ik zeggen! Anders zijn we helaas een hoop foto's kwijt. Multichill (talk) 10:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Toestemming is nu zo goed als geheel rond. Doorgestuurd naar otrs. Toestemming is incl gebruik logo. Sterkebaktalk 11:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Upload pics

Hallo Multichill,

Normaal zie ik, naar een upload van een pic of pics, deze verschijnen in mijn gallery. Nu vindt ik ze alleen nog terug in my contributions! Waarom is dit?


Met vr. gr. Karel J. Labberté

Labberté K.J. 18:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Er is iets stuk op de toolserver waardoor alle galleries (zoals die van jou) voorlopig niet meer worden bijgewerkt. Als het weer werkt dan zie je ze vanzelf weer verschijnen. Multichill (talk) 19:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

“overcategorization”

Hi Multichill,

Ik zag, toen ik terug kwam uit de Ukraine, een Email boodschap van Wikipedia dat:

Viktorianec op:

15:03, 9 October 2008 (hist) (diff) Image:Great Lavra Belltower.jpg ‎ 15:03, 9 October 2008 (hist) (diff) Image:Cathedral of the Dormition.JPG ‎

een toevoeging wilde maken bij deze twee foto’s die op het zelfde complex in Kiev staan.

Nu zijn de categorie toevoegingen bij de Belltower door U verwijderd en niet bij de Cathedral. Begrijp ik niet! Ik vond het een goed idee er stond dan:

Kiev Pechersk Lavra | Orthodox monasteries in Ukraine | World Heritage Sites in Ukraine

en de pics in deze categorien. Voor een artikel over bijvoorbeeld: “World Heritage Sites in Ukraine” heb je dan alles, in ieder geval wat er is in Commons, bij elkaar.

Volgens mij is er geen sprake van: “overcategorization”.

Kijk ik bij “Kiev Pechersk Lavra” dan vind ik de categorieën:

Categories: Religious buildings in Kiev | World Heritage Sites in Ukraine | Baroque art in Ukraine | Orthodox monasteries in Ukraine

Ik kan er nog wel een paar bijzetten in categorieën en vreemde talen en dat is dan geen “overcategorization”, gezien vanuit dat Commons internationaal is!

In de Nederlandse Wiki kan ik me voorstellen dat alleen Nederlands gebruikt wordt en dus al iets snel is “overcategorization”.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Dr Karel J. Labberté


--Labberté K.J. 06:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

1) Image:Kiev monument wwII.jpg 2) een blauw/rood vraag

Multichill,

1) Ik vond bij: “Kiev Pechersk Lavra” de pic: “Image:Kiev monument wwII.jpg” met als toegift: “just outside the Kiev Pechersk Lavra’’ .

Maar deze naald heeft niets met het Kiev Pechersk Lavra te maken en hoort daar dus niet thuis.


Maar deze o.a. Kiev expert durft niets meer te veranderen in de Wikipedia anders krijgt hij iemand of een bot over zich heen. Zijn er nu al 3 die meer weten, ik heb me voor genomen alleen aan te geven en veranderingen laat ik dan aan andere over! Ik hoop dat me dat niet kwalijk genomen wordt bij Wiki.

2) Ik heb bij zowel en.wikipedia.org als bij commons.wikimedia.org een User site.

Waarom staan de bij en.wikipedia.org in blauw (is goed) en bij commons.wikimedia.org in rood?

Met vriendelijke groet,

KJL

--Labberté K.J. 09:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Category

Moet nog ongeveer 20 pics opladen van Zamek Czocha

Ik denk deze cats, minimaal, goed zijn:


Category:Poland, Category:Castles in Lower Silesia, Category:Renaissance castles in Poland, Category:Gmina Leśna, Category:Jizera Mountains


Maar iemand veranderde (bij mijn eerste 2 pics) deze cat's in:

Category:Zamek Czocha

????. meer zeg ik niet (U begrijpt het wel)

Is er een manier om ze sneller te uploaden, nu duurt het lang (zie later bij The Bold!!).

Over die overcat. nog het volgende:

Bij de Bracco Italiano pics heeft een verstandig iemand verwijderde : Dog Breeds, maar laat staan gundogs en pointing dogs! Een gundog is niet een hond met een geweer, maar een (voorstaande) jachthond. Een pointingdog is niet een hond die punten zet maar een (voorstaande) jachthond. Een Bracco Italiano is een voorstaande jachthond. Wat is nu overcat.?

In gronde genomen is de Cat. FCI (Fédération Cynologique Internationale) voldoende de rest volgt van zelf. Maar gelukkig onder verdelen we het! Net als bij het opzoeken van een plantje! Maar het zou dan leuk zijn dat het Wiki program automatisch overcat. blokkeert bv rood zonnetje, nu krijg ik een geel zonnetje dus goed denk ik, de simpele ziel. En later krijg ik een boze wiki adm. of een bot over mijn heen. Moet ook maar een adm. worden! Of Wiki Goeroe!

Met ander woorden: Zamek Czocha is wat mager.

Ik hoop dat mijn vele opmerkingen nog steeds in de goede aarde vallen!

Heb nog ongeveer 10.000 pics te verwerken, van mijn laatste reis, THE BOLD vroeg mij om pics (voor dat ik op reis ging) en aan jullie hoe ik dat het beste kan verwerken( slimme bold)! Anders ben ik vanuit het hiernamaals nog bezig! En jullie hebben ook eindelijk een hoffotograaf!

Met vriendelijke groet,

Karel J. Labberté

KJL 68 Watchdog

--Labberté K.J. 17:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Hoi Karel, Category:Zamek Czocha bestaat dan is het toevoegen van bovenliggende categorieën overbodig. Het beste kan je gewoon al je de afbeeldingen in Category:Zamek Czocha plaaten. Heb je het linkje wat ik bij je heb achtergelaten over categorisatie gelezen? Multichill (talk) 18:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Hoi Karel, nog even wat toelichting. Ik zie dat je een technische achtergrond hebt dus je bent wel bekend met grafentheorie. De categorieën op Commons zijn georganiseerd in de vorm van een boom. Afbeeldingen zouden zo diep mogelijk in de boom moeten staan en geen categorieën bevatten die ook in het pad van de root naar de afbeelding staan. Bijvoorbeeld Image:Czocha Castle Torture room.JPG. Deze afbeelding staat in Category:Zamek Czocha. Als we vanaf de root naar Category:Zamek Czocha gaan dan komen we Category:Poland, Category:Castles in Lower Silesia, Category:Renaissance castles in Poland, Category:Gmina Leśna & Category:Jizera Mountains allemaal tegen dus horen deze categorieën niet op deze afbeelding. Multichill (talk) 18:32, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Gelezen

Hi,

Ik heb het gelezen, alleen blijven sommige zaken vreemd zie div. opm. Maar ik zal me aanpassen.

bij 16, Uw indeling heb ik nog geen antwoord waarom blauw en rood?

en bij 17, hoe kan ik sneller uploaden, the Bold Question, de slimmerik!

Met vriendelike groet,

Karel J. Labberté


KJL 68 Watchdog

--Labberté K.J. 18:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Blauw en rood? OOoooo, je bedoelt de linkjes. Dat komt omdat de pagina Gelderland niet bestaat op Commons maar Gelderland wel bestaat op de Engelse wikipedia. Zoals je ziet kan je wel linken naar andere wiki's, bijvoorbeeld voor Gelderland op de Engelse wikipedia [[:en:Gelderland|Gelderland]] of Nederlandse [[:nl:Gelderland|Gelderland]].
Snel uploaden? Ik begreep van SterkeBak dat Commonplace wel prettig werkt. Multichill (talk) 19:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Soko deletions

Maybe you could help me to put some pics for deletion: Image:Soko_002.jpg, Image:Soko 003.jpg and Image:Soko 004.jpg. These ones aren't her.. Thanks, and forgive my bad english.. Tarsie (talk) 23:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tarsie, the images all seem to be taken at the same concert see http://flickr.com/photos/eurockeennes/sets/72157606007993881/ . I think those people are part of her band on tour. Deletion is a bit to much, but you might want to alter the description. Multichill (talk) 06:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Yep, but I don't know who the hell are that people.. What should I write? Can I let the description empty? Thanks, Tarsie (talk) 08:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Teaching tool

BotMultichill is a real teaching tool: I have the impression that people follow its system quite well. But there is more to learn: do you see a reason why botM-T didn't categorise at category:Przemyśl fortress and at Category:Przemyśl Fort I "Salis-Soglio", see histories? Is there an effect of time lag? I also had to categorise Przemyśl fortress manually to be able to make cat's for subgalleries. Cheers Havang(nl) (talk) 17:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I think the lag is screwing things up. When the database is back up we can recheck that category. Multichill (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC).
No need for that, it's all done. Havang(nl) (talk) 09:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan project

Thanks for your ideas; I can see the progress you're making, and I'd also like to play around with these templates further. But I do want to be careful about substituting the descriptions for the moment, because I'm not really sure everything is in the ideal categories yet, and that's why I've made a quick study of AWB, which I hope suffices for now. We should also keep in mind that eventually we want to develop these templates not just for New York events, but as tools that can be easily used by event organizers everywhere. BTW, ideally, we really should try to coordinate these issues at Commons talk:Photo scavenger hunts as we progress. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 01:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

NowCommons tool for greek wikipedia

Hello Multichill. There's an effort going on to clean up our images at el.wiki. In doing this, the Nowcommons tool would be very useful. Could you please add el (Greek) to the wikipedias that can be scanned by the tool? Thanks - Badseed talk 13:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Badseed, have fun. I'll also add it to the list. Multichill (talk) 14:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Commons:Photo scavenger hunts

Hi Multichill. I'd like to let you know you can now sign up as a participant in this new WikiProject. The WikiProject's talk page should be a good forum for future discussions. Thank you.--Pharos (talk) 02:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Script

Hello, do you understand why this script doesn't work for me. See at my talkpage "Toggle between images and titles". Havang(nl) (talk) 09:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Geen flauw idee helaas. Multichill (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Bot

Hoi,

Is het mogelijk dat een bot iedere nacht een afbeelding veranderd in een pagina of weet je daar een template voor?

Ik heb een foto op mijn gebruikerspagina en zou nu willen dat hij maandag tot zondag elke nacht een keer wisselt. En dan vervolgens maandag weer opnieuw begint.

Weet jij hoe ik dat moet aanpakken?

Groetjes, Sterkebaktalk 15:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Zoiets als {{Potd}}? Je kan een template met daarin een switch op Saturday maken. Zoiets:
{{#switch: {{CURRENTDAYNAME}}
 | Monday = [[Image:A]]
 | Thuesday = [[Image:B]]
 | ...
 | Sunday = [[Image:G]]
}}

Multichill (talk) 16:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Dank je, dat is precies wat ik zoek :-) weet je toevallig ook nog een sjabloon die aftelt tot 6 dec in uren? Groet, Sterkebaktalk 16:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Je zal een beetje met ParserFunctions moeten gaan spelen. Multichill (talk) 16:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

ik zag er http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Days_from_now eentje. heb alleen geen idee hoe ik die hier op commons moet krijgen, ik zie nergens de code. Kan jij hem overzetten? Sterkebaktalk 16:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

MarkMu

Hoi,

Kan jij als jij tijd hebt in de village pump zeggen dat MarkMu wel aan het lastig vallen was? erik baas is weer lekker bezig. Sterkebaktalk 04:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Renaming of "Category:Empress Place Building, Singapore"

Hi, could you help to rename "Category:Empress Place Building, Singapore" to "Category:Empress Place Building" (currently a redirect)? I doubt if there is more than one "Empress Place Building" in the world. Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee talk 17:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

You can tag it with {{Move|Category:Empress Place Building}}. Multichill (talk) 17:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done. Thanks for the tip. — Cheers, JackLee talk 17:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Removing images from Category:Chinese kanji stroke order

Your bot added a bunch of previously categorised pages to the category Category:Chinese kanji stroke order. This category was not only unnecessary, but should be empty by definition since there are no Chinese kanji. Kanji are Japanese. Could you please depopulate this category and delete it once that's done. Thanks, --Swift (talk) 04:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

As i said above, templates which add (different) categories are bad practice. Go ahead and issue a move or deletion request. Multichill (talk) 09:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hola

Why you delete this photo? File:BritneyOso.jpg, the source says that the Paparazzi put with a license of cc-by or somethin like that: Look: Or i',m liynig????? Have this license. --Daviddavid01001 (talk) 13:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi David, i did not nominate that image for deletion (Megapixie did) and i did not delete the image (Herbythyme did), i only notified you of the deletion. Multichill (talk) 23:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks a lot for tell me that. I going to "put"(no sé si se dirá así en inglés) a message in discussion of themself. (I'm the same person of Daviddavid01001. Thanks --Daviddavid0100 (talk) 19:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

salticid cats

hi there,

i'm on spiders for some years now, and am a bit tired of having to clean up the category pages time and again. what's the point of putting *all* salticid pictures into the category Salticidae? we have a very nice taxonomic tree there, that lets you find the pictures, where they are sorted into their respective species gallery pages. the only thing dumping everything into the big cats is to make take forever to load, and to make it almost impossible to find new pictures, that are by default dumped into cats, in order to sort them into galleries. why on earth is it so important for some people to use the cat system in a way that doesn't really work? i'm not aware of any newer "consensus" that was taken on galleries vs. cats, maybe you can point me to some, but i'm really not thinking that you guys are doing the useability any favors here. no intent to bitch on you here personally, i appreciate your work, i'm just really tired of this. cheers! --Sarefo (talk) 14:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sarefo, i'm doing a project to get images categorized. We have about 300.000 uncategorized images atm. Galleries are not replacements for categories, see my archive for all the relevant links. If categories get to crowded (like Category:Salticidae), it's possible to sort the images into subcategories. Just create a category with the exact same name as a gallery and tag it with {{Populate category}}. My bot will move all relevant images from the main category to the subcategory. Multichill (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Notifying the uploaders...

...is completely pointless. There seems to be a massive increase in the number of drive by single upload accounts (different account - same image). It would seem many people use commons as a free image hosting service (give it a try if you like). If I had access to admin tools - I would be deleting things on-sight because far too much stuff slips through, and if it survives the first 24 hours - it'll be around for months. If I take the time to notify every abusive uploader about every image they upload it would halve the rate I tag things - even more things would slip through. What would be more useful would be a speedy delete notification bot that notified the uploader (not that they would take any notice anyway) - I believe you have skills in that direction.

Ultimately it says it at the bottom of the edit screen "Copyright violations will be deleted!". Megapixie (talk) 12:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Megapixie#Notify the uploaders!. Multichill (talk) 17:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Running bot1 before botT

Is it possible that at cat's to be populated, your bot tagging media needing categories runs though the gallery before BotMultichillT runs categorising. See Burg Efferen which after 2x sucessfull populate category still contains uncategorised images. -- Havang(nl) (talk) 13:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Check the upload dates. The images were uploaded recently. My bot checks new uploads once a day. Multichill (talk) 17:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Geotagging tool

Love the new tool you've written — with something as easy to use as that, I'll bet we're going to see geotagging increase impressively. I was wondering if the "heading:" parameter could be added for Commons. And, of course, we need to use this on en.Wikipedia; the template there is en:Template:Coord. Thanks! —Ashanda (talk) 12:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to make some changes. What is the standard format at en wikipedia for the Coord template? Multichill (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

It's a very flexible template that can accept both decimal or DMS input, whichever is most convenient:

{{coord|latitude|longitude|coordinate parameters|template parameters}}
{{coord|dd|N/S|dd|E/W|coordinate parameters|template parameters}}
{{coord|dd|mm|N/S|dd|mm|E/W|coordinate parameters|template parameters}}
{{coord|dd|mm|ss|N/S|dd|mm|ss|E/W|coordinate parameters|template parameters}}

Ashanda (talk) 10:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep, i noticed that. I dont want to have too many options in the web tool so i probably have to settle for one of these. Which one is it going to be? ;-) Multichill (talk) 11:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
http://toolserver.org/~multichill/coordinates.php
Numbers 1 and 4 are the useful ones. I suspect 4 will be the most popular, but personally I prefer 1. ClemRutter (talk) 10:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Bot doesn't work correctly

Your bot has tagged all images with Template:SVG-Map Africa by Slomox as needing categories. The template automatically includes a category. Please remove the tags and teach your bot to tag only images which really have no categories. --Slomox (talk) 15:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The bot works just fine. I added this user template to my ignore list. Templates shouldnt contain these kind of structures, especially user templates. Please break the category out of the template. If you need some help i can do it for you. Multichill (talk) 16:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Such a template is a nightmare if one has to change the category name or structure. --Foroa (talk) 16:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
? If you have to change the category name, it's just one edit to change all images to the correct category. That makes perfectly sense. It's not a user template, it's a template connecting a series of images. --Slomox (talk) 23:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
For example, i want to place Image:SVG-Koort Afrika.svg in Category:Blank maps of Africa, please do your one edit. The "by Slomox" part makes it a user template. Multichill (talk) 23:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
You can just insert the string [[Category:Blank maps of Africa]]. It will (or would have been) still be in the Category:Maps of Africa, but actually it _is_ a map of Africa. The "by Slomox" doesn't make it a user template. I could have named the template "SVG-Map Africa", but there can be many SVG maps of Africa. I chose a more specific name to make clear it is a _series_ of maps. --Slomox (talk) 02:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Your bot has also tagged images with {{SOlicense}} as needing categories. The template automatically includes a category. Please remove the tags and teach your bot to tag only images which really have no categories.
There are no policies or guidelines that I can find barring templates from adding categories. --Swift (talk) 04:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not barred, but it is bad practice, so dont do it. Multichill (talk) 09:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
It's too bad practice to spam images with working categorization with "needs categories" templates. Whether categories in templates are bad practice is not common sense and disputable. It depends on the actual use of the template and the systematics of images and categories. It can make sense under some circumstances and under other circumstances it doesn't make sense. If you have actual evidence, that it doesn't work for a special template, remove the category from the template and add it to the images like you did with my template now. But tagging categorized images as needing categories cannot be the correct solution. --Slomox (talk) 02:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Categories build in a template

See at Category talk:GNOME Desktop icons: Categories build in a template have been used there, so Bot1 didn't recognise the cat's already present and botT didn't remove the parent cat's. -- Havang(nl) (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Categories added by templates screw up everything..... Multichill (talk) 17:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Any chance this isn't so much of a problem with the temaplates, but with your bot? --Swift (talk) 04:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
The cat-in-temp-problem existed prior to this botMultichillT, it has always been a problem for cat refinements and there have been lengthy discussions about it, for instance at the Coat of arms tree.Havang(nl) (talk) 13:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

deletion of superseded files

Hi there, Multichill. Thanks for the message, but please clarify, what images are you referring to, exactly? Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience. Waldir talk 22:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Waldir#Superseding is not allowed Multichill (talk) 21:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Question

What does supersede mean? Yurte (talk) 14:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleting a file because a "better" one exists, see Commons:Deletion requests/Superseded. Multichill (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Bekend

Hi,

Was aan tikken naar U, dus zag de rest niet!

Is me bekend, maar of de andere het allemaal wel weten en dus overcatten (doen ze ook bij auto’s, nummers veranderen)? Is een zonnetje rood geen idee, in navolging van het geel zonnetje. Een Auto Stop Cat Inrichting (ASCI) met "grafentheorie" programma is pragramma technisch een fluitje van een cent, ik ben alleen de Adm./ en Goeroe in wording. Laat maar een student er naar kijken.

In Nijmegen (de studenten) zijn ze daar goed in!! HaHa, ministerie en een onderneming balen ervan, als U het begrijpt.

Wis van het bestaan: Commonplace niet af, bedankt voor de tip!

Zit ook nog in de economie (bedrijfsec., en econometrist)

Ik zal maar eens anders eindigen:

Ciao

Karel J. Labberté


KJL 68 Watchdog