User talk:Infrogmation

Authors should decide their own license preferences

I, Infrogmation, hereby "opt out" of the involuntary "license migration". Notes: The vast majority of my uploads I would happily agree to add cc-by-sa-3.0 to the listed license option (if that license is not one of the listed options already) IF I am ASKED. I do NOT consent to any change license of any of my copyrighted works that I have not personally authorized. I have NOT authorized any party other than myself to change licensing of any of my works without my explicit permission. See here on my talk page for discussion.

This was my stand more than 2 years ago. It has not changed. Months of work and thousands of edits have been required of me for this simple assertion of my basic authorship rights. I consider Wikimedia a noble project, but think Wikimedia should be deeply ashamed of the way they have treated and continue to treat contributors who have been kind enough to share their own media under free licenses. Infrogmation (talk)

I do so agree with you. This license policy of the commons project prevents me from uploading more photos because I do not like my pictures changed by other people and not even knowing about it. --Manuela (talk) 06:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Black and white photographs

I know you generally do great work but... [1]... Wasn't there general agreement that Category:Black and white photographs was more like a "tag" and that we should not subdivide it and end up with a whole parallel category structure? - Jmabel ! talk 21:51, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I know that some argued that "Black and white photographs" should not be subcategorized, but I'm not aware that there was ever a general agreement or policy to that effect. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, then, I'll leave this alone, but I sure won't go about marking anything more specific than Category:Black and white photographs myself. - Jmabel ! talk 04:34, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Sandwiches_of_the_United_States

 

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Mjrmtg (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Same problem as with the Eric Clapton photo

Can you help me with this? I KNEW this would happen.. there are about FIVE photographers who have had lots of photos uploaded, usually with the CC-BY-SA or CC-BY Creative Commons licenses. I know it to be fact, since I have to teach them about how we accept 2 of the 5 Creative Commons license, and they remove the copyright on the photo to one of them. Somewhere here I read that photographers who allow uploads under the correct license from Flickr, and then after a period of time, change it to an unacceptable license afterward do not get their photos pulled, since they have broken our agreement. Unfortunately, most are prolific in photos here. They include:

• Chris Hakkens
• Heunrich Klaffs
• Brian McMillen (He now uploads them himself- I won't do it, since in Flickr he changes nothing)

There are others.. I'll think of their names. Look at the uploads of mine and see what happened compared to solid evidence that I followed protocol, please?! Thanks, --Leahtwosaints (talk) 11:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

I switched it to 'own work'. I didn't realize that some may question a source like 'my hard drive' although I can see that 'own work' probably is easier for bots and category placement.--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

HABS images

Hey there, thanks for the note. When I was first uploading HABS images, I didn't know where some of the information was, so I would leave it blank. No wI will add the author, and add the link to the original page. For the year, I've never added a year to any of my uploads. The file upload page does that on its own. You can check a recent upload like file:Seward Plantation House, Independence, Texas.jpg for how I label things now. Thanks, 25or6to4 (talk) 16:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 16:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

File:Beijing Hotel Smog.jpg

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178.254.162.30 19:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikivoyage

Hey, have you found us over here on WMF servers yet?  ;) --Peter ^Talk 23:24, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I shall check it out, thanks. Infrogmation (talk) 23:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

My bad

I took the image myself, that is why I used 'own work' as the source and the original creator as the author. Should I have used his name in both fields or 'my living room wall' as the immediate source?--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:32, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd certainly credit the artist as the creator; taking a photo of it is a derivative work. If it's a mass produced poster/reproduction, I suggest noting that. "My living room wall" doesn't seem relevant or particularly helpful; maybe something like "photographed from a copy in my own possession" or whatever might be better. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 01:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree that would be best. I was worried that if I had put the artist in both fields then it would be construed that I had ripped the photo from the net, which is moot now. I will use your advice for future uploads.

Resolved

--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Deleted photos

Hi there, It seems that you are deleting my photos. For instance, the D&RG train wreck in Granite, Colorado is more than 70 years old and was given to me by a school chum who is now the town historian in a nearby village who has been collecting stray photos for years. You also question that the Granite one-room school is my own work--why is that? I work very hard on my editing and it is a joy to be able to use photos to add visual content. Thanks your your attention. Gandydancer (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your enthusiasm. Just please be sure to be accurate and honest. File:A family strolls in New Orleans at Mardi Gras.jpg was certainly not taken by you this New Orleans Mardi Gras season, since it has appeared in multiple places on the web for years and can be found on many sites in higher resolution. File:Denver and Rio Grand Western train wreck, Granite, Colorado, 1925.jpg, I presume the photo you're referring to, you described as being a photo you took yourself in 1995,(which contradicts what you now claim here), but it was at tiny web-site resolution. Please be aware that false statements of authorship can result in your account being blocked, so please be sure to have correct information on your uploads. If you have permission to license someone else's photographs, include permission information as detailed in Commons:OTRS. If you have other questions about using Wikimedia you have trouble finding answers to, ask. Thanks.

I certainly regret using the Mardi Gras photo and I wouldn't expect anyone to believe that it actually is a family photo, around 10 years old and the "Disney" saying thought up by my sister's son. I am aware that it has been going around for years.

As for the suggestion that I am dishonest re the train wreck, it should be obvious that I'm not trying to cheat and pretend that I somehow took a circa 1925 photo in 1995--though I'm not aware that I said I took it in 1995 as that wouldn't make any sense. I'd really appreciate it if you'd let me know where I supposedly said that.

This is all so disheartening for me. Of course I don't like being called dishonest, but I feel worse that my photo has been deleted with a threat that my school house photo may be next. I actually tried for years to figure out how to upload photos. I asked 3 or maybe 4 times for help and they always said, "Oh it's easy..." and pointed me to the old method. I spent hours (I'm not making that up) several different times and never could get it to work. Since I finally was able to get some uploaded with a method that I could actually figure out how to do, I used it as it is not like I am harming anybody by using a photo of a train wreck from 1925. I'm using it, or at least I was using it, at "my" Granite, Colorado article, the only article that I have written completely by myself. Only a few people read it but I think that they really enjoy seeing a Colorado ghost town brought back to life on Wikipedia.

In closing, I realize that you are just trying to do your work here and I certainly understand that you'd delete the Mardi Gras photo. But I can't see where you are helping Wikipedia to now start looking through my other photos for ones to delete. Sometimes one must use a little wisdom and rather than threaten me with the possibility that my account could be shut down, know when to just pretend like you didn't see that... Gandydancer (talk) 03:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for taking time to reply. Please don't take things personally. Part of the process of Commons is double checking one and others work. Again, just make sure info in your uploads is strictly accurate. Some things you've stated show some of what you put in photo descriptions was not correct. You can't claim to be the author of a photograph if you weren't the person who took the photograph. If you have rights license someone else's photograph (eg, an ancestor's work that you inherited), explain. I was not making a threat; I was simply explaining the reality of Commons. It is YOUR responsibility to make sure the copyright claims and other information on your uploads is accurate & factual. (P.S.- If you or a family member has photographs of Mardi Gras and New Orleans from the pre-Katrina era and are willing to share them under a free license, I'd enjoy seeing them uploaded here. Please be sure to give proper date and photographer credits, like anything else.) If you have questions, ask. Thanks. Infrogmation (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

My daughter lived in New Orleans for a few years and I used to visit. Those visits were some of the most fun I've ever had and I have found that lovely place to be my favorite city in the world. She may have pictures--I'll ask her. I have a few but they are hidden away some place--If I can find them I'll go through them and see what I've got. Mostly I took videos. As for the Granite train wreck, could you show me how to upload it properly? Gandydancer (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

@Infrogmation: I received an e-mail regarding questioning a photo published for columnist Quin Hillyer. Mr. Hillyer provided the photo as follows: "I believe I have the rights to use this photo. Frankly, I don't remember where it came from -- it may well be one my wife took of me, or it may have been from a photo we own that was taken for a church directory -- but I have been using it for years without objection from anybody, so my ownership rights are fairly well established by now. I certainly do not object to its use on Wikipedia's page, and neither will anybody else. Thanks. Best wishes, Quin" DFW HOYA (talk) 22:36, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. If you can tell me what photos you're talking about (file name), I can look in to that. Cheers, Infrogmation (talk) 16:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

McClure's

Hi Infromation, I was interested to see that you have old copies of McClure's magazine. I'm currently looking for the cover of one from the period December 1906 to May 1907, July to October 1907, or February to June 1908, all dates inclusive. During those months, McClure's published a series of investigative articles about Christian Science and its founder, Mary Baker Eddy. See here for the articles, and here for the December 1906 editorial announcing the series.

I've written about this on the English Wikipedia in the Christian Science article and in a separate article about the series and a book that came out of it. I'm looking for a McClure's cover to use in the section about it in Christian Science, where I currently use your January 1901 cover.

Do you by any chance have one from the relevant period? Ideally, I'm looking for one that has Christian Science or Eddy on the cover, which would most likely be the December 1906 or January 1907 edition. SlimVirgin (talk) 05:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to see what I still have. I lost part but not all of my paper ephemera collection in Katrina in 2005. I never had a complete collection, just random issues I was able to pick up cheap. I know I don't have an issue with MBE on the cover; I would have remembered that. Cheers. -- Infrogmation (talk)

Okay, thank you. Even if it doesn't have Eddy or Christian Science on the front, any issue from the period of the serialization would be great, so December 1906 to June 1908, inclusive -- except for June 1907, and November, December and January 1908, which were the months during that period that they didn't run the articles. I'm sorry to hear you were affected by Katrina. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have such. Hope you can find such at some library or archive. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

People in Brooklyn

Thanks for the new cat. When I get a chance, I'll try to do a triage on the "People from Brooklyn" cat and move some over. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Your image licenses

Please do not add the parameter "migration=opt-out" to images using both GFDL and cc-by-3.0 or cc-by-sa-3.0 as they would end in a wrong category. Both cc-by and cc-by-sa licenses in version 3 makes relicensing redundant. Thank you. --Denniss (talk) 21:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

No. As I have said repeatedly, and am willing to repeat it further in whatever forum can make it heard effectively by anyone potentially interested, I completely opt out of any and all "license migrations". While I may be willing to offer my images under additional or different licenses IF ASKED, I release my work only under the licenses which I myself have specified. I consider any and all changes of license of my works by any party other than myself to be fraud (and similarly for any other author subjected to involuntary relicensing without their explicit permission). -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:43, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

File:Le Petit Journal 7 Oct 1906.jpg

 

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Stefan4 (talk) 11:59, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting me that there is a problem. I have changed the license tag, I hope addressing what you saw as a problem. If not, it would be helpful if you would say what you think the problem is, thanks. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

File:BartRouwenhorst1.jpg

And he made himself a photo? Obviously it's not his work, as he's depicted on this image. The other one - I missed the previous del. disc. - thx for correcting me. Masur (talk) 20:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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Rybec (talk) 22:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion protocol?

Under what circumstances are deletions performed with or without notifying the uploader?--Sphilbrick (talk) 00:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Good question, I don't have a complete and comprehensive answer off hand; Commons:Deletion policy has an overview. If you have questions not covered there, you might wish to bring them up on the talk page. As to your unasked question about my not notifying you about deletion the Com:DW photo of a video screen you uploaded, I probably should have and I apologize for not doing so sooner. I have rectified this on your talk page with a link to a more detailed explanation. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:57, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

"New Orleans Tram stops" vs. "Streetcar stops in New Orleans"

If this category is renamed, I want to keep the same alphabetization it has now. ---DanTD (talk) 20:41, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Fine by me. The issues were 1) in New Orleans they're called "streetcars" and the New Orleans parent cat follows this usage; 2) "Trams" is inappropriately capitalized, so some sort of category rename would happen eventually anyway. Thanks for your work. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I understand. I was more or less going by the existing broader category "Category:Tram stops in the United States." --DanTD (talk) 22:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Category:Chiwan,_Guatemala

 

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Simon Burchell (talk) 20:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Infrogmation - I've requested deletion of the category, since it seems a misspelling of Chiguán (in Totonicapán very close to the border of El Quiché). Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 20:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for figuring out and straightening that out. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:04, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Tikal Temple 33

Hi, I'm trying to track down an out-of-copyright or CC licensed photo of Tikal Temple 33 before it was dismantled in 1965. I don't suppose you've come across any old photos of the main plaza? Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Good question. I don't know off hand. No view in the few pix Maudslay published. I'd guess Maler probably photographed it - possibly the "Temple at north side of Great Plaza" listed at [2]. If so, I don't know if it would have been among his photos published pre-1923, or those not published til more recently. Tozzer published a report in 1911. Those would be my first places to look for likely good PD photos and/or diagrams. -- Infrogmation (talk) 16:53, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back - I trawled through what I could find of Maudslay's photos, which wasn't much and the temple didn't show up. The Maler photo is interesting but I'll have to compare it with modern photos to see if it's one of the other North Acropolis temples - not many people (except me!) walk around behind pyramids to take photos of the back, so it could be tricky. I'll follow up on Tozzer etc, maybe I'll come up lucky. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Naked computers

I notice one of the nude HTML files didn't undelete - the float one. Tried to undelete myself and got an error message "Error undeleting file: The file "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/6/61/Body_painting_-_float.jpg" is in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends". I have no idea what that means, but it doesn't sound good. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)