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divisa NY red bull

ciao, ho caricato File:Kit body nyrb18a.png, daresti un'occhiata per vedere se ho fatto tutto correttamente in merito al copyright (l'immagine dei tori l'ho presa da File:Kit body rbbrasil15a.png, nella descrizione ho messo l'utente che ha creato l'immagine e l'immagine stessa e ho usato la stessa licenza)?--Luca•M 15:47, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Road signs in the Mediterranean

Ciao Admin! Come va il 18? When I saw Orta on your page I thought it was the district we have here, nearby. We could see similar road signs in Turkey, as villages/towns are sometimes so small... You can go to two different directions and reach the same place! (BTW in Turkish "orta" means "centre"! :) If I knew you wouldn't delete it, I could add here a road sign from our famous (with its sense of humour) Black Sea Region that says "Puraya gider"! ("Buraya gider" in normal Turkish -or "Puraya gider" in the eastern part of the Black Sea Region means "It goes here". So if you want to go "here" you follow the sign... :) See. Cheers. --E4024 (talk) 09:26, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well @E4024: , if you take a picture by yourself there's no reason to delete it don't you think? :D -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I do. I have spent several mobile phones in the effort. One even fell into the bowl of some stranger in a restaurant; he was resisting against his soup being photographed! (No, I've never gone so far, but for some reason my friends don't want to go out to eat with me, because I once "practically" obliged a waiter to put first on my table a plate that went to another, so that I could take a pic. :) --E4024 (talk) 11:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Female cats

Hi. Just opened Category:Female association football coaches. Could you help me to populate it, per favore? Grazie mille. --E4024 (talk) 14:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Da CM86

Ciao carissimo, torno a romperti. Se hai un minuto daresti un'occhiata alla mia talk? Mi dicono che alcuni miei file sono da cancellare, ho risposto che essendo foto non artistiche scattate in Italia più di 20 anni fa non dovrebbero esserci problemi, e mi linkano una policy che non mi sembra aggiungere niente al discorso. Cosa c'è che non capisco? --Carlomartini86 (talk) 19:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sempre copyvio

Ciao, un paio di loghi caricati in CC quando nelle pagine delle fonti è scritto "tutti i diritti riservati": questo e questo. Ma pure questa rubata dall'internet. Grazie. :-) --Phyrexian ɸ 23:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Categorie sport femminile

Ciao Sergio, ho notato il lavoro che stai facendo sulle categorie dello sport femminile.. Ascolta, ovviamente ti sto seguendo (come saprai dalla discussione sulle slittiniste tedesche :) però ho anche notato che tutte le categorie sono già chiamate: Sportswoman from XXX e non Female sportspeople from XXX come stavamo facendo noi.. (guarda un pò qua]... Domanda, non conviene lasciarle chiamate così visto che sono una marea?--Louis.attene (talk) 22:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC) PS a meno che tu non le voglia spostare tutte come hai fatto con l'Unione Sovietica :D Ma sarebbe un lavoraccio, ne vale la pena? Ciao ciao--Louis.attene (talk) 22:29, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)@Louis.attene: I'm sorry I can't write in Italian, but you might like to know that I just opened Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/01/Category:Sportswomen. Please feel free to comment there. Ciao. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
done@Auntof6: --Louis.attene (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fotografie di edifici recenti in Italia

Riprendendo una vecchia discussione, ultimamente un IP (151...) sta proponendo a manetta per la cancellazione tutte le foto di edifici recenti italiani. Ho rifiutato in massa, ma sarebbe bene mobilizzarci tutti, onde evitare cancellazioni ridicole. Ho preparato un testo di spiegazione: User:Ruthven/Italian_Copyright_Law. Magari lascia commenti in discussione, perché l'ho sottoposto anche ad altri utenti.

L'idea è che: in Italia c'è un organismo che gestisce i diritti d'autore per le opere architettoniche. Una commissione decide se un'opera vale la protezione oppure no. Quelle che non sono "registrate" presso il ministero, sono sotto la soglia d'originalità e quindi si possono fotografare (non che le altre non si possano, perché sembra che la protezione riguarda solo le mura, ma sarebbe guerra persa contro il PRP). Mi fai avere il tuo avviso? --Ruthven (msg) 10:15, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruthven: Il principio è che in Italia fa aggio la proprietà materiale su quella intellettuale, perché altrimenti si arriverebbe all'assurdo che io possiedo una villa progettata da Piacentini ma non posso farne fotografie per uso commerciale. Non esistono precedenti giurisprudenziali in Italia sulla violazione del diritto d'autore di beni infungibili (quindi diversi da libri e dischi, del cui solo supporto fisico tu acquisti la proprietà). BTW chi è l'IP? Dall'incipit pare italiano (151...). -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:17, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Non so chi sia l'IP (è italiano, ovviamente), ma è uno che ha voglia di vandalizzare. Comunque non è del tutto vero: se un bene è registrato presso il Ministero, allora neanche il proprietario può effettuare modifiche senza l'autorizzazione dell'architetto. Quando ho provato a dire che non è prevista la protezione del diritto d'autore per l'esterno degli edifici, mi hanno invocato il PRP. Quindi, parlare di threshold of originality mi sembra il modo migliore per fare passare il messaggio. Ma se hai un'altra legge da sventagliare ai commonari, ben venga. --Ruthven (msg) 15:31, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Il problema è farla capire ai tedeschi, tu sei qui da non so quando, ma far capire loro che la legge dei vent'anni non valeva nell'EU e pretendevano di applicare in Italia la sentenza austriaca su un fotografo tedesco... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Immagine "corrotta"

Salve Blackcat, scusa il disturbo ma ho un problema che credo possa rivolvere solo un amministratore... avendo trovato un'immagine con maggiore definizione di questo quadro l'ho sovrascritta al file che c'era prima (di scarsa qualità). Qualcosa nell'uppload però non ha funzionato e l'immagine che ho caricato ha assunto dei colori "sparati" che non vanno bene... ho provato a ripristinare il file precedente (a questo punto meglio quello) ma non ci riseco in nessun modo... però così si da un'immagine artefatta del dipinto "scientificamente" errata e forviante per chi la guarda... insomma chiederei a te il favore di eliminare il file aggiunto da me e ripristinare quello vecchio. Grazie mille! --Never covered (talk) 13:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

re:Immagini

MacMoreno ha avuto qualche problema a caricare delle immagini (immagino sui trofei calcistici), non ho capito molto bene quale sia il problema, tuttavia dice che su commons non ha problemi di caricamento mentre su it.wiki ci sono...--Luca•M 14:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't think that being an admin is permission to edit war, to describe other's edits as vandalism, and certainly not to use page protection to strong-arm your preferred version is textbook INVOLVED. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bridge_engineers&diff=prev&oldid=295714190 Andy Dingley (talk) 23:23, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ripristino stemmi

ciao sergio, ti scrivo per chiederti se per cortesia potresti ripristinarmi i seguenti stemmi della famiglia colonna:

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Victims of imperialism

Hello. How is "Victims of imperialism" heavy POV? Don't you know that imperialism exists and it is the cause of many wars around the world? What is the procedure to open a discussion to undelete this category? emijrp (talk) 17:26, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Emijrp: , even Imperialism is problematic as category. Victims of imperialism is a heavy POV bent towards Marxism. One shouldn't classify a topic according to a non shared view. We all agree about the victims of Fascism, Communism, National Socialism, Christianism, Islamism and so on. But victim of imperialism is a blatant political POV. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:31, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The only blatant POV is removing Imperialism and Capitalism victims, like they were the only ideologies without victims in history. Procedure to discuss undeletion? emijrp (talk) 17:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ehm... capitalism is not an ideology, is an economic system. Imperialism doesn't exist as defined by itself like i.e. Fascism or Communism. It exists as term because it's defined by political opponents of capitalism. Thus is a POV definition. Can we move on and talk about serious things now? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:48, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Blackcat Can you please start a CfD for this? I'm not sure the best way to do it with a deleted category? And to clarify, was Category:My Lai massacre the only contained content? That's the only thing I can see from your contributions list. Anyway, we can tag that category for additional input, but if any other sub-categories were removed, you might tag them as well. Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 17:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Themightyquill Yes was only that category. Blatantly POV. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the category itself had existed for quite some time, I think, so I'd say it deserves a clear discussion. Category:My Lai massacre is not specifically category of victims, nor is there anything that links it especially to imperialism over any other victims of the Vietnam war. It might have been easier to remove that single sub-category and delete as empty rather than begin an ideological battle over what constitutes POV. =) - Themightyquill (talk) 17:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I saw it a case of speedy deletion, anyway I restored it and opened a CfD so the discussion is hopefully opened to 3 or 4 people rather than to 2 only :D -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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PD-Italy (?)

Scusa Balckcat se ti disturbo di nuovo, ma sei il solo amministratore italiano che ho incrociato e io con l’inglese me la cavo troppo male. Ho fatto un errore e me ne sono accorto solo poco dopo aver già caricato questo file. Dato che si tratta di una foto vecchissima ho pensato che il PD-Italy ovviasse la non bidimensionalità dell’opera. Però quest’altare di Bernini si trova nella Basilica di San Pietro quindi in Vaticano e pertanto (credo) non è possibile affermare che la foto sia stata scattata in territorio italiano, nel caso andrebbe cancellata (confermi?)... Salvo un'elucubrazione da paura che mi viene or ora: la foto è stata scattata tra il 1908 e il 1910 (tanto risulta dalla scheda dell’archivio Zeri da cui è presa). Quindi tra la presa di Roma (1871) e i Patti Lateranensi (1929)... in questo lasso anche la Basilica (e tutto ciò che poi con i Patti Lateranensi sarà riconosciuto come territorio dello Stato della Città del Vaticano) è da considerarsi territorio italiano? Forse sì, ma di certo non ci scommetterei più di un caffè... Scusa il disturbo e l'astrusa questione che ti pongo. Grazie e saluti --Never covered (talk) 15:40, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Never covered: , segue la stessa legislazione, non preoccuparti. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ottimo. Grazie mille!--Never covered (talk) 07:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Langswitch problems

Langswitch was originally intended for interface messages from the software itself. It was NOT intended to apply to captions to an image in multiple languages, and has many problems if forced to fulfill this role, as discussed at Template_talk:LangSwitch#Langswitch_considered_harmful_(when_used_beyond_its_intended_purpose) (and a number of other places which I don't feel like trying to find at the moment). AnonMoos (talk) 15:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AnonMoos: thus is better not to use it? It's ok. But one might not be aware of it because no one warned them not to use that way (now hopefully the next ones will be). BTW what are the problems using that template - apart from having to look at the code to see whether there are other languages descriptions? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:08, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's useful for situations where there's a mechanical rigid equivalence between different languages, people won't have much reason to want to see more than one language, and editing of each of the specific-language messages is likely to be rather infrequent -- user interface messages, geographical names, "oil on canvas" etc. But for the purpose of general image captions, where the different language captions are NOT necessarily direct translations of each other (see File:Ekstase.jpg, which I just now edited), and people may have good reason to want to see more than one caption (to see the maximum amount of available information, check on accuracy of translation, etc.), LangSwitch is much less appropriate. AnonMoos (talk) 18:35, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. See the documentation at Template:Multilingual description... AnonMoos (talk) 03:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine for me @AnonMoos: , if it's deprecated to use it outside the said cases I won't use it and use {{Mld}} instead. The only issue I raised is that it was not that evident, I had to specify on {{LangSwitch}}'s template manual that it has a limited purpose and it's not to be used everywhere. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:07, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Autopromo

Si ranza? --Vale93b (talk) 17:30, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Vale93b: segato. Tu mettigli in immediata questo ricettacolo di spam. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Caricare immagine da en:Wikipedia

Ciao Blackcat, ti prego, mi dai una mano a caricare questa immagine su Commons ..? I miei tentativi non vanno a buon fine e ho finito i neuroni dedicati.. te ne sarei grata! --Betta27 (talk) 08:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grazie!! --Betta27 (talk) 13:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Upload foto

Ciao Blackcat, mi piacerebbe caricare la foto della statua di santa Rosa da Lima di Melchiorre Cafà (è una scultura importante, fonte di ispirazione del capolavoro berniniano della transverberazione di santa Teresa d'Avila). La statua si trova in Perù: esiste un PD-Perù tipo PD-Italy? (onestamente non mi pare ma lo chiedo comunque a te che di certo ne sai più di me). In ogni caso una buona foto la trovo qui (par di capire si tratti di un sito istituzionale dell'amministrazione culturale peruviana). Non mi pare sia indicata una specifica licenza sotto la quale le immagini sono rilasciate ... però cliccando sul pulsante "adquirir" mi pare che ne venga consentito ogni uso non commerciale... insomma: è un caricamento lecito o no? A questo punto sono anche a corto di formule di ringraziamento nei tuoi confronti e spero una volta o l'altra di poter in qualche modo ricambiare :-). Un caro saluto!--Never covered (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ahimé, credo di no, secndo quanto scritto qui, @Never covered: . Però non esistendo divieto di panorama, è possibile fotografarla direttamente quando si passa per Lima. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Eh... Lima non è proprio nei miei itinerari consueti :-), tuttavia se non traduco male l'ultimo capoverso (Simple photographs have a copyright term of 70 years counted from the first of January of the year following that of the taking of the photograph (Art. 144), Simple photographs are those which fail to meet the general definition of a "work" in Art. 2.17 of the 1996 law: work: any personal and original intellectual creation), se trovassi una foto (semplicemente riproduttiva della statua e non artistica in sé) che ha certamente più di 70 anni, andrebbe bene, o no? Grazie--Never covered (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A trovarla, @Never covered: . Innanzitutto deve inequivocabilmente datare, allo stato, al massimo fino al 31 dicembre 1947 e quindi lì diventa un problema. Quanto alla dimensione artistica, non credo ci sia problema, una statua non si mette in posa, hanno l'abitudine di essere statuarie e muoversi il meno possibile. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Eheh... Tutto sta a trovarla in qualche pubblicazione (saggio, articolo ecc) edita nel 47 o prima: non è semplice ma non impossibile. Foto così vecchie non sono il massimo ma meglio di niente. Grazie di tutto e alla prossima.
Ma anche se la trovi del 1948 o 1949 non disperare, @Never covered: . Io ho utilizzato adesso roba che ho trovato anni fa pubblicata in Italia nel 1994, 1995 etc. e che adesso è PD-Italia almeno su it.wiki. Quando misi piede qui era in PD la roba uscita fino al 31 dicembre 1983 :-) -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:37, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dalida

Hello, I need a help. I have a lot of photos of Dalida that are on postcards and were released in italy fron 60s to 70s and were given by Dalida and her producents freely to people. Therefore that means that they were public domain in Italy in that period. If I scan the photo and upload it on wiki and add PD template for Italy, do I have to add any links or anything else, because mostly those photos can't be found on internet vecause they are old, but in same time I have to proove that they are not copyrighted by photographer. What to do? 《 DalidaIdeal 》《 talk 》 09:15, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Dalida

You have deleted a few images of Dalida with a summary per Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Dalida, but I can not find a rationale there for deletion of those particular images. Could you please restore them? Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 11:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are images taken in France considered to be PD in Italy?

When you say "a photo like this is perfectly free for us" are you considering that the image was taken at The Olympia in Paris? @Alexis Jazz: World's Lamest Critic (talk) 14:22, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This you meant, @World's Lamest Critic:  ? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:41, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that one. Taken at the Olympia in Paris. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 03:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure, @World's Lamest Critic: ? So far the source I took it from (Corriere della Sera) claimed it as taken in Milan on the backstage of a TV programme. If it's clear that is the Paris' Olympia I will delete it soon. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you ask the Dalida experts to confirm it. Note "Olycom" in the description. Similarly, File:Dalida Walter Chiari Olycom 1965.jpg appears to be from the Olympia, but probably in 1959, not 1965. Can you provide links to where the images are described in the source? World's Lamest Critic (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@World's Lamest Critic: , the main question is: why are you always mentioning Olycom like they cannot work in Italy? Maybe a foreign press agency cannot have photographers in Italy and publish in Italy first? Anyway.
I don't know whether you speak Italian, thus I'll be translating for you.
The source is reliable because it's IoDonna from the group Rizzoli - Corriere della Sera which is the publisher of the main Italian newspaper:
Regards, -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was probably wrong about the first image but I think you are mistaken about the date and location of the second. I'm not willing to argue about it since no one else seems to care about it. Thanks. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 21:27, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mind you, I also understand your concern, @World's Lamest Critic: , but as long as there's a reliable source that backs the origin of that photo up, we are in good faith. I for sure wouldn't have uploaded it if i weren't more than sure that it was about an Italian work. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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melina

Aww very cute cat☺ I also have a female cat her name is peridot. No pics yet still learning how to work this commons Msamoco (talk) 02:16, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Msamoco: unfortunately she died in December 2012 aged 13... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 07:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslav flag

I noticed you changed the Yugoslav flag's file date from '46 to '43. Why so? The Wikipedia article and the description page both say it was adopted in '46. – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 16:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Illegitimate Barrister: , I was misled (perhaps) by this template. Could it be that the said flag was adopted unofficially in 1943 and officially sanctioned in 1946? That could be the only reason why it's indicated as Flag of Yugoslavia (1943-1992) on it.wiki. Anyway for me no problem to restore to 1946. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:16, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]