User talk:Alexis Jazz

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Yin and Yang.svg This user is trying to avoid potential conflict zones on Commons. Please don't drag this user into discussions.

- Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

  • I kept an eye on my watchlist to monitor ongoing cases. When an edit summary said "Getty", I had to take a look and got dragged into the case of w:Dalida. I didn't want that, but that watchlist is more addictive than a pack of smokes. So I'll have to stop looking at the watchlist or I'll never get a proper break. Most of the ongoing stuff is done now I think. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 22:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I find myself more just evading anything that might result in another toxic discussion and overall limiting how much I do and read here. Going cold turkey is hard (watchlist, pack of smokes, etc) and Commons gives me a distraction - something I need right now due to circumstances. You can't assume I'm too aware of developments around here anymore or care as much as I used to. I don't want to get sucked into toxic discussions anymore where I have to defend my point of view that will be overridden by an admin without collaboration anyway. Maybe I just need to re-evaluate the way I do things here. Maybe my reduced activity does eventually result in a wikibreak. Please don't make requests now unless nobody else could help you, I'm not in the mood for that. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 16:30, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
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Wikimedia Wizard[edit]

We seem to have gotten ourselves in to a fix where we know what the problem is but can't find a simple WC way of correcting it. As it is said, there are no rules on Wikipedia and the same can be said for Wikimedia Commons. So have created Upload Wizard proposals based on your work (which I support). Much still needs to be done but we can cross all the T's and dot all the I's later.P.g.champion (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

@P.g.champion: Thanks. I just don't have enough time to do everything I want to do. The only issue I have with this is that I think the page you created should be in the Commons: namespace. As you said, there are no rules.. - Alexis Jazz 20:06, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Whoops! Yes, my mistake. Glad one of us are on the ball. P.g.champion (talk) 20:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

OTRS[edit]

From your user page:

“First of all, OTRS can't contact right holders. So either right holders need to contact OTRS all by themselves (sure..) or a user needs to ask them to contact OTRS. I did that a couple of times, I've never seen anyone else doing that. You would get a lot more response if OTRS could actively contact right holders, but for some stupid legal reason they can't. WMF is afraid it would look like WMF is contacting them and OTRS is somehow legally not WMF.”

The WMF lawyers isn't as far as I know (as an OTRS agent) stopping us from reaching out to rights holders, it is just that it is not done, and that unspoken guidelines are not to use OTRS emails for other things than to respond to things, but I have sent emails to some people and asked for permissions for some images in a DR discussion, using the OTRS emails. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@Josve05a: Interesting. I wrote that part because someone (I think an administrator) told me just that. I'll try to remember who said it in what discussion. - Alexis Jazz 18:38, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but I have not been told off directly by WMF legal yet. Only been in IRC-discssions where we've discussed if it is our place to do so - pointing out copyvios on our projects to the copyright owners. We've also not been given that as an assignment from the Commons-community, only to act as a permissions handling service (and responding to information enquiries and questions). --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:57, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
@Josve05a: I found it! (that took a while) It was Green Giant (OTRS volunteer and administrator), so that much I remembered correctly. Commons:Deletion requests/File:Naomi Campbell and Anatoly Evdokimov (Evdokimov show).jpg:
"OTRS cannot initiate the email chain because that is not its purpose and because it might give the impressio that the WMF are contacting them. In fact, every email sent by OTRS clearly states that it is sent by volunteers on behalf of the community but not on behalf of the WMF."
I hope you're not in trouble now? - Alexis Jazz 14:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, there are no set rules, just common sense not to do so (in most circumstances) - hence why we normally don't do so. But in highly unusual circumstances, some of us do so anyway.. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 14:10, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
@Josve05a: yes, I've noticed OTRS volunteers (and administrators) are not all following the same rules or even the same policies. It's confusing sometimes. - Alexis Jazz 14:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Paul Fearn[edit]

Interesting essay, thanks for responding to my initial post at the Village Pump.

One thing I would ask is, are you 100% sure that the Paul Fearn whose own site you link to is definitely the same "Paul Fearn" at Alamy? I agree that there's a very good chance that it is, but I don't see any clear evidence confirming this.

All the best,

Yottanesia (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@Yottanesia: No, I am not. I will clarify this in the essay. - Alexis Jazz 15:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Yottanesia (talk) 18:04, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for long explanation[edit]

Hi, I never thanked you for the long and clear explanation of what de minimus and privacy means on Commons. You really helped me understand the several issues more clearly. So thanks for taking the time. The discussion was here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Naomi_Campbell_and_Anatoly_Evdokimov_(Evdokimov_show).jpg DaniellaJ13E (talk) 11:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Face-smile.svg - Alexis Jazz 12:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I add stuff to talk pages without a new section header[edit]

Please don't revert edits that make sense, like you did here. If a file is an obvious copyvio it can be deleted speedily which was made numerous times. If you doubt that this file visit Global btand database and search for registration number V0106334. --Jarash (talk) 22:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jarash: Please don't add issues to talk pages without a new section header. And please don't copyvio stuff that is still under discussion. This case isn't obvious enough for copyvio and even if it was, there is an open discussion about it at this moment. Add your comments to the deletion request(s), poke an admin if you must.
Also, your wipo.int link is useless for assessing copyright status. That link deals with trademarks. Also see {{trademarked}}. Different thing. - Alexis Jazz 23:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Alexis, Many thanks for your help and kind advice re images I uploaded to Wiki-commons. New to this whole process, but trying to get smart and make sure my submissions are correct, so most grateful for the assistance. Best regards Jack Megill. Jackmegill (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Kind request[edit]

Alexis, I kindly request you to revert part of your contribution here and keep your opinions at home. Commons is not a place for that. OTOH, you are wrong about what you "imagine": Nobody wore a scarf in Iran to upset or not anybody; they do it because it is law. So simple. Look, this is Nevşin Mengü, she is quite a "protest" Turkish journalist. Nobody can cope with her will, but when she went to Iran she wore the scarf and smiled to the objective. I like her too. (Ah, I like you too. :) Best. --E4024 (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

It is not that simple.
Compare this:
"This university does not accept black people, it's the law, so we will not attend. Not because it's racist, not because the lawmakers are bigots, but it's just the law."
The lawmakers who made the law are bigots and any current lawmakers who have the power to get rid of the law but won't are also bigots. And when the law is violated, the police gets upset. (and may do terrible things) She really wore the scarf so she wouldn't upset the bigots.
I'm happy to comply with your request though and have done so - but that doesn't mean things get much better. - Alexis Jazz 17:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Good day. Look, Commons is not a place where we inject our political or other ideological views into file descriptions. Everything -except a link to the person's WP article- you added there are subjective and must be removed. I prefer you do it yourself or let me do it for you, promising me openly that you are not going to do anything else to change the file description after me. I have always been a transparent contributor here and like to speak open-heartedly. "She did not wear a scarf due to any religious belief": Who are you to know what this person did and why? The whole of the subjective (and speculative) edit of yours shows that the admin who gave you autopatrolled status recently hurried a little bit. I'm quite sure if they had imagined this attitude from you they would not have done that yet. If you continue to make this kind of edits I may be compelled to ask the status to be withdrawn from you, because we cannot leave your edits without revision. Ah, also a "personal" thing: If we do not act as I wrote above, I mean if you do not respond kindly to a kind request from a colleague who appreciates the volunteer work of all colleagues in Commons, you will have lost my friendship; in that case -which I do not wish- don't expect to see me here again. Regards. --E4024 (talk) 07:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
You don't know Christine Defraigne, do you? I know why she did what she did and have made some changes (sources in her Wikipedia article), but a picture like this absolutely does require context. If context is not allowed, I would propose deleting it altogether. 3 months ago does seem a bit of a stretch for the word "recently" by the way, but that's just an opinion. - Alexis Jazz 18:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I usually don't look at what users do on other wikis, but decided to take a look at what other wikis you are active on. To my surprise I found w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/E4024/Archive. Very transparent. Now I understand your POV completely and it is everything but neutral. I will not be your meatpuppet. I advise you not to make any changes to File:Christine Defraigne.jpg. - Alexis Jazz 18:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Alexis_Jazz! With all due respect, the page is titled “Deletion_requests/File:Christine_Defraigne.jpg”, not Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/E4024. I have no intention to censor your speech, but could you please stay on topic? A Commons functionary will have to produce resolution about the image. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:07, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: There is no use for any checkuser because I don't know of any E4024 sockpuppets on Commons. - Alexis Jazz 19:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Newspapers.com[edit]

Why don't you ask for a free account? It's an extremely useful resource.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Didn't know it was possible. However, I'm not interested for multiple reasons. Thanks for telling me about it though. - Alexis Jazz 01:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Food[edit]

Curd Rice

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Picture[edit]

Col Virgil Young Cook

Hi. Would you mind uploading this picture please?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Can you put some categories on it? - Alexis Jazz 09:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Image fixed. - Alexis Jazz 05:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
What about this one please?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Sorry, died in 1936 and I see no date on the picture. - Alexis Jazz 06:24, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. What about this one please? 1936 but in a newspaper--does this work?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Don't know, you should ask someone with newspapers.com access. For several reasons, I don't want to apply for their free accounts. I gave you instructions for making a clipping and downloading a PDF before, if you can manage to do that I could look at it. - Alexis Jazz 08:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. I wonder if you could help me find a picture of Edith Drake Pope?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Can't find any, but my time is limited. Commons:Picture requests is a better place for requests like these. - Alexis Jazz 03:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Re.: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Freyjadour[edit]

As I said the files weren't downloaded, the original copies were kept digitally and were uploaded in flickr as mentioned before. In my defense, some files do get lower resolution when posted online in the case of twitter, messenger facebook, and the likes. Thanks! Freyjadour (talk) 15:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

@Freyjadour: Please comment on Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Freyjadour and explain (in detail) how you aquired/created the photos because that is mystery now. While some social media will lower the resolution/quality of your images, they don't have to. When you upload a file to Commons, it will not be downgraded. - Alexis Jazz 14:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: I do hope you could notice in time my messages so we could talk about this issue and settle things. I don't know how else to go as detailed as what I've written on the discussion page apart from me taking a shot, with the purpose of sharing the photo as a visual aid to people, and eventually decided to post it online. Hoping for your cooperation and response as well ^^ Freyjadour (talk) 15:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Further input on DR Consolidation would be appreciated[edit]

I'm not aware on what is the proper protocol for consolidating DRs of this magnitude, but I'm very close to being blocked for it. If you can share more of your views on Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Creation of page I would be very grateful. -- SLV100 (talk) 18:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@SLV100: there is no protocol. Without question you could have linked them all. I sometimes consolidate DRs that are still open, when a user has made a large number of individual nominations for what should have been a mass DR. But nowadays I just open a new mass DR for that. (and have the files nominated twice)
When Majora (who is not an admin) said "You are violating copyright by copying within Wikipedia without direct attribution", don't worry about it. Majora is wrong. I discussed this very issue with a jurist some time ago and when you copy text within Wikipedia (or similar project) a "reasonable attribution" (as required by Creative Commons) would be to put the attribution in the edit summary. In this case the DRs you copied are signed (~~~~) so they have attribution.
I can't remember what the issue was at first why Majora made a request, but I thought you had only consolidated the new (open) DR from Majora with an existing DR page. I see now you had also consolidated other closed DRs. Some scripts or bots get confused by this. (is what I have been told) The reason for this is simply the whole operation is a mess. When a DR is closed for example, it must be closed with "'''Kept''' or '''Deleted'''. In text. This is endlessly stupid. This is the case because {{Delf}} redirects to {{DeletionFooter/Old}}. It would be much better if {{DeletionFooter}} would be used which forces you to enter a specific result, but guess what, the whole operation is a mess. This is mostly unrelated to what you did, but gives you a slight idea of how just messy the operation is.
So I must advise you not to copy closed DRs anymore. The reason why is a poor one, but in the future it'll be better to just link the related DRs. Sebari threatening to block you was unnecessary, he could have just explained some automated processes may get confused by your actions and urge you to stop without threatening with a block. (even if that would ultimately be the result if you were to persist, but there is no reason to believe you would)
There was, by the way, a less disruptive way to do this. But I don't know if that would been found acceptable:
{{Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gavin Wood in 2017.jpg}}
{{Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ron Johnson TCD 2015.jpg}}
See a demonstration on Revision of User:Alexis Jazz/sandbox. Discuss with admins before using it. - Alexis Jazz 06:26, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
@SLV100: let me take the bullet for cleaning it up. - Alexis Jazz 06:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Re: Mass deletion requests[edit]

Hi, Alexis. Thanx for your advice! Best wishes Pawel Niemczuk (talk) 00:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

TechCrunch[edit]

Hi, I think it is better to have the whole issue in one place. Regards, Yann (talk) 07:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

@Yann: I agree, on the other hand, Srittau/Sebari threatened to block SLV100 for what he did. (see discussion above) I did include the DR in question on Commons:Deletion requests/Getty Images photos from the TechCrunch Flickr account so there was no visible change in any way. I was already working on also fixing the other consolidated DRs this way. I will do this anyway and feel 100% free to revert that edit as well, I won't contest it - but including the DR instead of copying seems like a better way to go and results in the same thing: all DRs on one page. - Alexis Jazz 07:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: Okay, I'm done. If you really want to, you can revert my edits (and fight it out with Sebari), but I don't recommend it. SLV100 didn't redirect all the DRs that were copied so it was kind of messy. All the DRs can still be read on the current DR page as I included them all. - Alexis Jazz 07:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Naomi Campbell and Anatoly Evdokimov[edit]

Hi, I checked this, and I don't see why it was deleted. So I would support undeletion if someone requests it (File:Naomi Campbell and Anatoly Evdokimov (Evdokimov show).jpg and File:Naomi Campbell and Vladislav Doronin.jpg). Regards, Yann (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Yann: They were deleted on copyright grounds... this is the same uploader that uploaded File:Бейонсе_Beyoncé.png... you suggest he is also likely to be the photographer of Evdokimov, enough to not require OTRS confirmation? Storkk (talk) 09:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Storkk: I can't find any copy elsewhere, so do you have any other evidence? Regards, Yann (talk) 11:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: only circumstantial... but is there any evidence other than a username that Evdokimov-show is the copyright holder for any of the files? We routinely require OTRS confirmation from people who upload fan-club type photos, and here the user's three uploads have very likely three different authors. Storkk (talk) 12:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. Yann (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: the photo can be found on http://evdokimov-show.com/about/. I don't know when it was uploaded there, archive.org has no copy before 2017. I mailed Evdokimov-show the following (replaced @ and .):
"If you uploaded this photo, please send a message using your business mail address to permissions-commons wikimedia org stating something like "I am user Evdokimov-show on Wikipedia/Commons."
And a few other options for him to take. If permissions-commons didn't receive any mail from the evdokimov-show.com domain or evdokimov-show mail ru, he took the last option I offered: "If you take no action, the photo will be removed.". (or never read my mail at all) - Alexis Jazz 19:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Alexis Reggae[edit]

This claims to be an alternate account of yours. If that is true, could you please use this account to confirm? Thanks, Storkk (talk) 08:49, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Storkk: yes that's mine. Needed it to test a notification. (I can't notify myself..) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:53, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
To avoid confusion for others, I suggest you edit the User:Alexis Reggae user page using this account, perhaps just by signing it. Storkk (talk) 09:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Storkk: ✓  Done - Alexis Jazz ping plz 09:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Robert Dölle profile pic[edit]

Hi, it’s me again. Thank you for your advice on how to remove the picture on my Wikipedia entry. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to remove it. Could you please do it for me, as you‘ve offered? I tried to contact the photographer who uploaded the pic, but she didn’t answer. Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Dölle (talk • contribs) 05:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
This is about https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=300375942. (Commons:Help desk#Robert Dölle)
@Robert Dölle: that's not what I offered. If you would upload a better picture of yourself (or better yet: send your picture with permission to OTRS) I would make sure the current picture becomes unused. It would still be on Wikimedia Commons, but not visible on Wikipedia, so basically nobody would ever see it. Like File:IMG-20161025-WA0003.jpg. It's here, but hardly anyone will ever see it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:07, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
I already did that and nothing changed. Should I do it again? Robert Dölle (talk) 11:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
@Robert Dölle: You have sent it to OTRS? It'll be okay, but they have a (massive) backlog, I'll try to see if they can make an exception for this case. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 12:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your help with this, please see the parallel discussion at User talk:Robert Dölle#Profile Pic / Replacement.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:38, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I replied on my page[edit]

Forgot the syntax for ping, sorry. :( --Don (talk) 01:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Reinstating talk page comments[edit]

Not cool to reinstate another contributor's blanking of a talk page without good reason. See Commons:Talk page guidelines.

Also he archived it at User talk:WPPilot/Archive 1, you could also link to the removal diff. Bidgee (talk) 04:58, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bidgee: The archive wasn't linked in the edit summary or on the talk page itself. I think the blanking action was (unintentionally) disruptive, but I'll change it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 05:04, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
I have asked him to consider linking to his archives.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: "him" referring to WPPilot I guess? Face-confused.svg Anyway, I had changed your link in the discussion but overlooked my own because I didn't link but just said "his talk page". Fixed it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 00:15, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

please go right ahead[edit]

I just wanted to retire in peace. --Don (talk) 20:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.. --Don (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
@WPPilot: & Alexis Jazz All I can suggest is that we're all mad here, like Alice, and that in our madness stumbling around, sometimes we do good things, and other times we don't. Lately I've been full-time working as well as moving an 85 year old relative cross country. I find that running herd on a non-compliant and childish elder makes me more tolerant of people trying to find consensus and less-patient with posturing and games since life is too short for all that. If I were the entire project, I could apologize to both of you and beg you to reconsider your involvements, but as I'm just one tiny person, I can't. I wish you would stay, otherwise people with perhaps less than best behavior may push out good people - but I can't make you do anything other than read the few paltry words I offer to smooth over problems. Just remember it takes two to tango; don't give people free rent inside your head. We all make mistakes, but it takes two to start a war. If I could, I'd hug both of you, we'd have a plate or two of cookies and everything would be fine. Please imagine the cookies, and when you are ready for it come back. OK? Please? Ellin Beltz (talk) 05:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
+1. Nothing more I can add. We expressed our opinions and that's enough. We need not bothered to ensure that our opinion is always considered or respected. Little chances for it in a wider community like this. Jee 05:42, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. It means a lot. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:39, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you all for your contributions.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:20, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Appreciation[edit]

From one human to another, some appreciation for your work. I hope your frustrations don’t end up chasing you away from Commons. Have a good break, come back refreshed, take care! Best regards, Ariadacapo (talk) 03:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Your old userpage[edit]

FYI I copied your old user page over at User:Donald Trung/Alexis Jazz' old user page because I think that it looks like one of the neatest user pages on Wikimedia Commons and prefer to keep a copy of it to re-read and accessing page histories on my mobile browser doesn't always work for some technical reason. Anyhow enjoy your Wikibreak. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:04, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 22:09, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your comment above this one. Face-wink.svg Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you re PhilipMEpstein.png[edit]

I appreciate your explanation of this file deletion. I am new to the Commons and am just learning.

Rddavistoronto2 (talk) 14:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:IsraeliPoliceLicense[edit]

hello Alexis Jazz,

First, please discusse in the template talk page if you have notes.
secound: they do have twitter accounts. -- Geagea (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

@Geagea: no need to discuss obvious typos. They have Twitter accounts, not Twirrer accounts. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 02:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the typos.-- Geagea (talk) 02:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Russian postage stamps ad envelopes are never copyrighted[edit]

(To Стальной Детройт) All postage stamps and envelopes issued by the Russian Federation and several other members of the Commonwealth of Independent states are public domain in their entirety. If the stamps or envelopes were cropped then it would be copyright infringement because it wouldn't have been enough years after the authors death, but the entire postage stamp or envelope is allowed on commons, see the PD-RU-exempt template please. And with the case of this envelope File:Художественные маркированные конверты 1983 года. Моор Дмитрий Стахиевич.jpg, the Russian government issued that envelope and gave it the ok for Public domain. Its just as permitted an exception as de minimis or freedom of panorama seen in Template:NoUploads-US/en.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 18:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I know, the original nomination was not mine. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Fantastic Selfies.jpg[edit]

Please, how can I put the 2 cute girls who do the selfie with the shoe please help me to put the image back again. -- Andefrur (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fantastic Selfies.jpg
@Andefrur: the copyright owner would have to send permission to OTRS. Which if I'm not mistaken is Miz Mooz. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 21:22, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Selfies imitation: No this selfie and particular not for the purely personal opinion because this type of photo has been imitated by all advertising. -- Andefrur (talk) 14:01, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Permisssion image: Excuse me as you put otrs permission to put urls internet of permission thanks. -- Andefrur (talk) 14:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Fantastic Selfies solutions:Please do not delete this selfie please or found the solution delete that tag deletion of my photo, those 2 girls are also beautiful. -- Andefrur (talk) 14:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
@Andefrur: Okay, sweetie, I know you think you're explaining yourself.. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:25, 3 June 2018 (UTC)


Another Barn Star for you[edit]

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I hereby award to Alexis Jazz The Photographer's Assistant Barnstar for doing over 1100 of my photos template updates and other clean up work. Thank you, your a gem! --Don (talk) 05:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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:@Alexis Jazz: Thank you for uploading my image. Nice to know you Thanatos509000 (talk) 02:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Images for Deletion[edit]

Hey Alexis! First, thank you for your work. Second, excuse me for some mistakes, I really dont understand quite much of the rules, I just like to create. Regards on what is on User talk:Brunomotta#Notification about possible deletion

I asked for the OTRS neeeded on the pictures I own the copyrights, cause they are mine. I didnt do it in 2 pics I dont have the copyrights but they are "release" pictures, I mean, they are made for release and have the copyrights for that free, I know that cause I work on both products. What should I do?

For the OTRs I provided, everything ok?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunomotta (talk • contribs) 14:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
@Brunomotta: if you are the copyright holder and have provided proper permission to the permissions-commons mail address, it should be ok. Keep in mind OTRS is done by volunteers and the current backlog is 93 days. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Next Step?[edit]

Hey Alexis, Bruno Motta again. I tried to provided at least 2 solutions for 2 of the pics I own Bruno_Motta.jpg ou the "Bruno Motta" portuguese wiki and "BrunoZé03pq.jpg" on "Comedia Stand Up" portuguese wiki. So, can I ask u not to delete those until the OTRS are checked? Or tell me what to do next. Tx for telling me the way here.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunomotta (talk • contribs) 20:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
@Brunomotta: I can't delete anything around here, I'm not an administrator. As you can see, File:Bruno Motta.jpg now has OTRS pending on it. I've also just uploaded a sharper version of that photo.
There is something you can do. Assuming https://www.flickr.com/photos/brunomottafotos/ is also yours, you can change the license for https://www.flickr.com/photos/brunomottafotos/16402808761/ to CC-BY (or another license that is compatible with Commons) and list that Flickr account on https://www.brunomotta.com.br/ and https://twitter.com/brunomotta. You can also do this for other photos you want to upload, just make sure you own the copyrights for any photo you add this way. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:55, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

nice idea[edit]

just did it trough flickr and twitter.com/brunomotta. pretty much the easiest way! where can I check that I took this measure? --Brunomotta (talk) 22:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Brunomotta: Very good! It should all be okay now. If OTRS has any more questions, make sure you answer them truthfully. I don't know if they will have any more questions, but just in case. Other than that there is not much more you can do now. A LicenseReview (the green bar you see on File:BrunoZé03pq.JPG) will probably soon also be added to File:Bruno Motta.jpg. I will keep an eye on the files to make sure this goes as expected. Thanks! - Alexis Jazz ping plz 11:47, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Picture to transfer to Commons[edit]

Hello. Could you please transfer this to Commons?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: File:John Harding by Washington Bogart Cooper.jpg (please add some categories)
I removed the frame because frames are 3D objects and photos of that are considered to have their own copyright. (to the best of my knowledge) You probably didn't really want the frame anyway. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:58, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
No. Thanks. I also posted a request in the workshop for his son, if you're interested...Zigzig20s (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Linking to files[edit]

Thanks for the tip! I seem to be creating extra work for lots of work for people, today. :D Deuterostome (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

PD Italy[edit]

Excuse me but I just don't understand your point. A steady and well assessed rule of any Wikimedia project should be not to disrupt the environment to state your point, and you want to promote a discussion by opening a mass deletion? Is like trying to treating dandruff under menace of beheading someone. Open a discussion elsewhere rather. You must deal with the fact that the Italian 20-years-rule sets a very high threshold for considering a work "original" (as for its rationale, I may suppose that that rule was stated in order to set free a class of photographs that presumably would no longer be of prominent interest two decades from their first publishing, or that they would lose their commercial value. Actually no one would pay for a 50 year old photograph whatsoever, let alone a non artistic photograph whose author is hard to trace because there's no explicit copyright notice on it). It's not the first time that someone opens a mass deletion of Italian photographs to create a case study. Let's deal with TRUE copyright violations, rather, like i.e. photographs stolen somewhere from the Net and uploaded here without copyright notice, or falsely self - attributed. If there are individual photographs that might not be covered by PD-Italy is fair to propose them for deletion, what's inappropriate to do is attempting to dodge a policy using the results of a DR as guideline. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:02, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

We have no "Nominate for discussion" option. That's what we use "Nominate for deletion" for. But I had already withdrawn it, so no need to grind on about it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 09:16, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

File:Claude Monet - Poppy Field - adjusted.jpg[edit]

Hi, Please do not blank file pages. This file is in use, so a proper DR is needed anyway. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:46, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Thanks for not deleting it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

No dragging but total confusion[edit]

Dear Alexis: This is the first time in all the time I've been on Commons that someone has bundled and copied my DNs into a mass DN. Usually, if you wish to call attention, you put a link to the other discussions. I personally feel that if you duplicate DNs like this you should find an admin to close the original ones, otherwise it's introducing confusion where none really needed to exist. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I've done it before. Next time please make such similar DRs into a mass DR yourself, exactly to prevent chaos. With individual DRs, it's possible you get different outcomes as some closing admins will consider the proof to be good enough and others don't. Some people will respond to one DR without ever knowing there were others, so it's better to create a mass DR in such cases. Thank you. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Closing withdrawn DRs[edit]

Hi Alexis. I don't want you to feel like I'm piling on here, but in the future, when you withdraw a DR, please do not close it yourself if someone else has commented. The relevant citation of COM:DR is "Deletion requests must not be closed by the nominator that created them unless done before anyone else has contributed to the request." The purpose behind this rule is to avoid situations where people feel as if things are being swept under the rug. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 18:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, things got real messy. But if you want to avoid situations where people feel as if things are being swept under the rug, maybe ask Blackcat why he deletes images with bogus consensus. All Dalida photos (except for the CC-BY stuff from the archive) are somewhat iffy and should be closely scrutinized before being kept to reduce future discussion about it, to protect our re-users and maybe, just maybe, even be able to provide a few examples of what is and is not considered a "simple photograph" for future reference.
But I guess we didn't want it that way. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:52, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
A note: when Blackcat, being an administrator, said "do not waste our time with pointless RfDs.", I think any and all rules against withdrawing a DR were automatically null and void. When the DR is called a "waste of time" and "pointless", there is no possible argument for it to remain open. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 22:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Someone calling a DR pointless and a waste of time is a frequent occurrence, and regardless whether it's true or not, is not by itself a reason to close. And being an admin doesn't magically endow one with either a direct line to the One Truth™, or a corresponding permanently even keel. My suggestion, and it is just a suggestion—I'm not trying to veil a warning here—is, especially when you're in an argument with someone, to go as by-the-book as you can. Anyway, I'm signing off for the weekend. Wishing you a good one, Storkk (talk) 23:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Storkk: Thanks, I hope you have a good weekend too. Admins may not have a magical direct line to the One Truth™, but their opinion will often act as a decision. If an admin uses these words and I don't want to argue them, there is little left to do but close. I think somewhere I also just wanted it to go away. Maybe I didn't want to risk another admin deciding to leave it open or the possibility it would take hours before another admin would pass by while it just gets uglier and uglier. Maybe I just wanted to kill it with fire.
But regarding that One Truth™.. w:List of religions and spiritual traditions is a long list. It must suck to find out at heaven's gate you picked the wrong one. Perhaps we should consider Dudeism. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 23:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with insource:"48973657@N00"[edit]

Hi, It is a bad idea to have such a big DR with different issues. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

@Yann: well, technically the only issue is the ambiguous copyright status of the files by See-Ming Lee as it's simply a repition of this same issue. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
As Donald Trung said, all files in the DR have in essence the same problem: the apparent incomplete understanding of Creative Commons that Seeminglee seems to have. Out of 1110 files, on 217 files this is worded as "All rights reserved", on 489 as "Commercial usage will be considered" and on an unknown number one of those messages is also found but wasn't copied to Commons. (crops, uploads without tools, uploads in which copying the description was disabled, file pages from which the description was removed or altered after uploading here) In addition (but I admit I didn't know that when I started the DR) the about page of Seeminglee on Flickr also contains statements for all his Creative Commons uploads that are incompatible with Creative Commons. For us, it doesn't really matter if a file is "All rights reserved" or CC BY-NC so in my opinion it's all the same issue. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

A failure of analogies[edit]

Given the apparent failure of analogies, I may be treading on thin ice here but calling the analogy "... like trying to treating dandruff under menace of beheading someone" "likening [it] to decapitation threats" is a bit like calling the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" a threat of mutilation. Or saying "not giving a shit" (your words) is akin to a threat of fecal hoarding. The overly inflammatory nature of the whole "on a related note" paragraph of Special:Diff/306409154/306409351 way overshadows any legitimate grievance you are trying to report. Storkk (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

When I saw the title in my notices, I was somewhat hoping this message would just say "so here's a kitten". "not giving a shit" was (in part) paraphrasing Blackcat's "you didn't give a fuck". The paragraph was not "on a related note", it was "On a completely unrelated note" because it was completely unrelated to the categorization issue. Natuur12 thinks I have a point, so your opinion is.. well, an opinion. Actually, the beheading comparison wasn't even the worst. "this whole process is a mess and inappropriate", "vexatious litigation" and "do not waste our time with pointless RfDs" were much worse, but more difficult to understand out of their context. The context is several pages long and spread out over multiple namespaces plus enwiki (at least.. I think part of the discussion was also on frwiki or itwiki, but I wasn't involved in that part) so for readability I did it this way.
Blackcat could have used many other analogies anyway, almost all of which would have been less offensive. "trying to treat dandruff with a gun", "wikt:use a sledgehammer to crack a nut", "shooting a mosquito with a cannon", "fix your leaking radiator by pouring cement in it". Why refer to any horrific terrorist practice at all? It's like a modern variant of a Godwin. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
He was not referring to any terrorist practices, any more than using the analogy "using a bazooka to kill a mosquito" would be a reference to an [insert your favorite freedom fighting/terrorist group] attack because they use bazookas, and no... I didn't just insinuate you actually have a favorite terrorist group. While he could have chosen his words better, I don't think taking people hyper-literally is a great idea either. On a lighter note, that Python sketch is a good one if you haven't seen it, and it's less well known than it ought to be. Anyway, my opinions are always "just, like, my opinions, man." ([1]).. and you can certainly have a point while at the same time make your point in a fashion that undermines it... that's what I was trying to say initially. Anyway, I hope you take my attempt at lightening the mood somewhat in the spirit it was intended. Have a good Friday! Storkk (talk) 20:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Face-smile.svg I wasn't very happy when I wrote that comment, perhaps it could have been worded somewhat better but in general I stand by it. I'll make a minor adjustment to it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

Hi. Do you think this picture is copyright-free please? If so, could you please upload it and add to his infobox?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)