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17:49, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

François Thierry's images of Qianzhuang-issued Zhuangpiao

Main gallery: User:Donald Trung/François Thierry's images of Qianzhuang-issued Zhuangpiao to import to Wikimedia Commons.




--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

貳吊文

Search images of banknotes with this denomination.

--14:18, 13 September 2019 (UTC). --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:18, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Yang Ming banknotes to import (13 September 2019).

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Temple oF Heaven 2 Chuàn banknote (Yang Ming Auction)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:53, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

壹仟文

This is a sandbox to ask Baomi.

Alright, I've been working on Chinese currencies for years and I still don't get the Qing Dynasty and Republican currency systems. So 1 串 = 10 角 = 100 分 / 仙 = 1000 文, and also 1 兩 = 10 角 = 100 分 / 仙 = 1000 文, and 1 圓 / 元 = 10 角 = 100 分 / 仙 = 1000 文. So 串, 兩, and 圓 seem interchangeable to me, but for whatever 🙄 reason it's not uncommon for the same bank to issue banknotes denominated in 串, 兩, and 圓. And how is the 吊文 different from the 串文? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:37, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

伍吊文

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

山东钱庄票3种，详分：（烟台）聚源湧钱庄1916年壹仟文；（牟平）万聚钱庄市钱壹吊文；（棲霞）鸿祥永1927年壹吊文；海外回流品，九成至全新


--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:48, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:49, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Yuraily Lic (talk) 03:23, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Kwangtung Currency Bureau.


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Yours sincerely, Yuraily Lic (talk) 06:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Qing Dynasty photographs (www.vintage.es)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 15:52, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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15:08, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

KKNews.cc to import to Wikimedia Commons

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-38

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15:14, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Shanxi Bank images

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Shanxi Bank images
(Standard layout)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Content to compare it wirh with

A banknote of 1 dayuan or 7 mace and 2 candareens issued by the Hupeh Government Mint in 1899; note that this banknote depicts the coin it was worth.

The denominations of the contemporary coinage[1][2] was extremely chaotic with different standards being used across regions, making it a confusing mess to exchange between areas due to the wide range of systems and denominations used to categorise the many coinages of the Qing.[3] There was likewise a wide range of types of paper notes. The traditional copper-allow cash was reflected in cash notes (錢票). Some of these banknotes used the traditional government mandated exchange rate of 1,000 wén per string of cash coins (串 or 吊) in a system for cash coins known as Xiaoping Qian (小平錢), while others used differing local exchange rates, like the Eastern cash or Dongqian (東錢) of the Fengtian province, with 160 cash coins per string, or the metropolitan cash (京錢) from Beijing[4][5] which had an exchange rate of 500 cash coins per string. Local banknotes usually reflected local exchange rates.[2] During the late Qing dynasty Japanese cash coins circulated in China,[4][6][7][8] as well as cash coins from earlier dynasties of different shapes and sizes at different exchange rates.[4][9][10][11]

On the local markets, the exchange rates even deviated from the fixed denominations, as had been the case with cash coins of substandard quality for an extended amount of time. The silver currency was reflected in silver notes (銀票), and also in other types of paper money, there were great differences in the conversion rate depending on the region where the banknotes were traded or used in. In Beijing, the imperial Kuping tael (庫平兩), which had a standard weight of 37.5 grams, exchange rate was used side by side with the local metropolitan rate which was known as the Jingping Liang (京平兩), while the Shanghai tael (上海紋銀) was used on banknotes issued by both the Huifeng Bank (匯豐銀行) and the Shanghai Tongshang Yinhang (上海通商銀行).[2] The banknotes of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation were principally denominated in "Chinese dollars"; however, the tael, Mexican dollar, and various currencies based upon the local Chinese dollar were also employed as denominations.[5]

The denominations on the silver yuan banknotes (銀元票) were the most standardised, but exchange rates still differed on the individual Chinese markets where they circulated, depending on the local value of the silver yuan coins. The imperial government attempted to clarify this chaotic situation with the Statutes for Paper Bills (通用銀錢票章程) decreed in the year 1909.[2] For silver currencies the standardised government currency units were "1 Kuping Tael (庫平兩) = 10 mace (錢) = 100 candareen (分) = 1000 cash (厘 / 釐)" for taels, which were based on units of weight,[12][13] while the round silver coins were standardised at "1 yuan or dollar (元 / 圓) = 10 jiao or hou (角 / 毫) = 100 fen or sin (分 / 仙) = 1000 cash (厘 / 文)", and 1 yuan was worth a coin with a weight of 0.72 taels as standardized in 1910.[14]

References

  1. ↑ Ulrich Theobald (10 May 2016). Paper Money in Premodern China. (in en). Chinaknowledge. Retrieved on 27 March 2019.
  2. ↑ a b c d Ulrich Theobald (13 April 2016). Qing Period Paper Money. (in en). Chinaknowledge.de. Retrieved on 27 March 2019.
  3. ↑ Eduard Kann and Mario L. Sacripante. The Currencies of China: An investigation of silver & gold transactions affecting China with a section on copper. Publisher: Ishi Press International. Published: 18 January 2011. ISBN 4871878856
  4. ↑ a b c Niv Horesh (28 September 2018). The Monetary System of China under the Qing Dynasty. (in en). Springer Link. Retrieved on 29 July 2019.
  5. ↑ a b John E. Sandrock (1997). THE FOREIGN BANKS IN CHINA, PART I - EARLY IMPERIAL ISSUES (1850-1900) by John E. Sandrock - The Opening of China to the Outside World. (in en). The Currency Collector.. Retrieved on 1 April 2019.
  6. ↑ Young Numismatists in China. (in en). Gary Ashkenazy / גארי אשכנזי (Primaltrek – a journey through Chinese culture) (24 September 2015). Retrieved on 21 September 2018.
  7. ↑ AS谈古论今 (15 September 2015). 农妇上山拾柴意外发现千枚古钱币 价值高达数百万. (in zh-cn). Sohu, Inc.. Retrieved on 21 September 2018.
  8. ↑ Guiyang Evening News (guiyang wanbao, 贵阳晚报). Published: August 12th, 2015. (in Mandarin Chinese written in Simplified Chinese characters)
  9. ↑ Song Dynasty Biscuit Coins. (in en). Gary Ashkenazy / גארי אשכנזי (Primaltrek – a journey through Chinese culture) (15 February 2016). Retrieved on 17 September 2018.
  10. ↑ Data.Shouxi.com - Lot:412  北宋特大型“咸平元宝”饼钱 - 进入专场。Retrieved: 17 September 2018. (in Mandarin Chinese written in Simplified Chinese characters)
  11. ↑ Taiwan Note - 古錢 - 最新更動日期: 2016/12/17. Retrieved: 17 September 2018. (in Mandarin Chinese written in Traditional Chinese characters)
  12. ↑ Introduction to the Guangxu Tael。 (in en). Nick Brindley for Chinesecoins.com (Treasures & Investments) (6 March 2015). Retrieved on 6 July 2017.
  13. ↑ The Coin that Marked the End of an Era: 1911 Silver Dragon Dollar。 (in en). Nick Brindley for Chinesecoins.com (Treasures & Investments) (19 November 2014). Retrieved on 6 July 2017.
  14. ↑ Ixueshu (25 February 2005). 论我国现代货币单位“元、角、分”体系的确立. (in zh-cn). 史学月刊 (Journal of Historical Science). Retrieved on 16 September 2019.
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