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Liquidier and gassier[edit]

Kelvin, see my comments on your nomination of the image of Saturn for Featured Picture status... (Liquidier?? Yikes!) KDS444 (talk) 15:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry I didn't respond the last three days have been kinda hecticcc … but I don't really see what's wrong with liquidier? Everyone's going to get what it means & there's really no other word to distinguish supercritical materials. && "more-liquid" with a hyphen is probably even more confusing—Love, Kelvinsong talk 23:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Try "Gaseous hydrogen" "Condensed liquid hydrogen" StereoTypo (talk) 17:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Ah but the problem is that a lot of the gas in Saturn isn't "gaseous", it's actually some strange state between a liquid and a gas. The hydrogen is more gas-like near the top of the atmosphere and becomes more liquid-y as you go down. So "Gaseous hydrogen" & "Liquid hydrogen" a little misleading since it implies that you splash from air into an ocean of hydrogen when you go below the Frenkel line—Love, Kelvinsong talk 02:45, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I understand the unusual state of the matter in question. What do planetary astronomers call it? Can we use that term rather than "liquidier"? I think that making up a word is probably more confusing than using a word that doesn't quite apply but is nevertheless close. KDS4444 (talk) 09:05, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I just did a quick look at some literature on hydrogen and Saturn. It looks like planetary astronomers just use the terms "liquid hydrogen", "hydrogen gas", "solid hydrogen", and "metallic hydrogen liquid", and "metallic hydrogen solid" when discussing Saturn's hydrogen states, even as they acknowledge that the hypothetical reaction path of hydrogen is continuous and circular. If these are the terms used in the scientific literature, doesn't it seem like we should be using them here? (although I agree that the "splashdown" concept is to be avoided if at all possible). KDS4444 (talk) 12:16, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Whatevvs. Uploaded new version with "Gassy hydrogen" & "Liquid hydrogen"—Love, Kelvinsong talk 00:52, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I contacted an astronomer at UCLA regarding this question. Here is his response: "This is far from my area of expertise, but my feeling is that the best phrase might just be “denser” as it doesn’t imply anything wrong. I consulted a colleague in planetary sciences and he confirmed this: 'Denser sounds about right to me. There are most definitely phase changes in Saturn, and therefore stratification, even though there may be vertical mixing as well.' I hope that helps! Cheers, Steve Furlanetto" KDS444 (talk) 02:06, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Preconceived Notions Regarding the Structure of Mitochondria[edit]

Greetings Kelvin, I have recently come to discover that graphical depictions of mitochondria are from single-celled organisms. Most images incorrectly depict the mitochondria found in mutlicellular eukaryotes, as elegantly demonstrated in this paper. I was wondering if you would be willing to edit or have someone edit "Animal Cell.svg"? I feel that it is important to show how many cells, (especially those found in differentiated tissues), have networks of mitochondria. Even during my undergraduate degree in biology, not a single professor, TA or textbook ever mentioned the concept of mitochondrial networks/fusion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by StereoTypo (talk • contribs)

Huh. I did not know they did that... I've honestly never seen mitochondria drawn as networks ever. I'll look into it though I'm actually kinda busy rn—Love, Kelvinsong talk 02:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Well done (again) on the Moon[edit]

Hi Kelvinsong. More good news for you!!! On Day 2 of the Astrigue yesterday, certain selected teams had to do a presentation on a topic of their choice. One of the teams from another school used your diagram of the Moon in their presentation!!! Well done and keep up the good work!!! ;) --(✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 23:45, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

that's so cool!—Love, Kelvinsong talk 16:04, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For everything you have done for Wikipedia, and to thank you on everyone's behalf, I hereby award you this barnstar! Jjamesryan (talk) 10:22, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Supercell Diagram[edit]

Hey Kelvinsong! Regarding File:Supercell.svg, I've nominated for Featured Picture on the English Wikipedia, I was wondering if you can remove those transparent rectangle things on the back of the title heading. If possible, change 'anatomy' to 'Structure'. Best, --///EuroCarGT 15:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

✓ DoneLove, Kelvinsong talk 22:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Face-smile.svg --///EuroCarGT 23:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Translation to Catalan[edit]

Hello! Could you translate the Moon diagram to Catalan please? I'm trying to promote the article to FA :)

  • the Moon - la Lluna
  • drawn to scale - dibuixada a escala
  • crater - cràter
  • Lunar terrae - Terres lunars
  • Lunar maria - Mars lunars
  • Crust - Escorça
  • Outer core - Nucli extern
  • Inner core - Nucli intern
  • liquid - líquid
  • solid - sòlid
  • Mantle - Mantell
  • Partial melt - Magma

I tried to do it myself but the text is not editable :(--Arnaugir (talk) 16:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Kelvin, you are converting your text to outlines! Tsk, tsk! KDS444 (talk) 22:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, yes I do. There's really no way around it with the way mediawiki renders svgs. Most of my pictures have the text data in a hidden svg layer tho—Love, Kelvinsong talk 02:44, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Supercell Diagram[edit]

Hey once again Kelvinsong! Regarding the supercell diagram, you've uploaded a newer version of the vector graphic of it. It should have been uploaded as a different file as it is a FP locally here at Commons, so by guidelines uploading it separately would be ideal. Best and regards, --///EuroCarGT 02:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't see why this is a problem I'm not really changing the content. I doubt anyone would actually object—Love, Kelvinsong talk 03:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


Kelvin: I would love it if you would weigh in on the consideration of one of my images for Featured Picture status over on the English Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Annelid diagram. And if you have more than trivial suggestions for improvement (I am hoping you at least have a few of those!) please leave me a note on my talk page so I can take a stab at them. I worked pretty hard on the image as it is now available, and used many of the techniques you taught me to do so— please consider this an invitation from a journeyman graphic artist to have a master review his progress. Thanks! (Oh, also, before you even go there, I know the file is really big, but have had some difficulty figuring out exactly which elements are the space hogs; if you know of an easy way to somehow sort layers based on size, please tell me. If I knew where to direct the paring knife, I could make better use of my time applying it!). KDS444 (talk) 11:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

That page doesn't exist...¿—Love, Kelvinsong talk 02:45, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Need Vector Artist for Client wanting to publish a childrens book[edit]

Dear Kelvinsong, You work is awsome a friend of mine needs charactors he has already drawn up for a childrens book and has been sadly dissapointed in trying to find an artist to make the charactors come to life. If interested please contact John Williams from Key West at (305)797-2089 he will let you know what he needs for you to give him a price.

I also have another customer who is getting ready to process a historic property called Winfield Farms in Northern Virginia I see you do alot of writing on historic postings.

Sincerely Jeanne Silvey (webdesigner)    305-766-3731
Emailed you && still waiting for a response?—Love, Kelvinsong talk 21:12, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Sony A77 II.jpg[edit]

Hi Kelvin, I have added, to the FP nomination page, several links to examples of similar photographs taken by professionals. The dark lighting style is popular for glossy brochures and adverts. Nikon's class-leading new camera has a publicity photograph ( that is very similar to the FP candidate. I also gave links to a couple of websites that help calibrate your monitor to ensure it is capable of displaying and distinguishing the full range of dark to light. I wonder if, if the light of this, you might reconsider your opposition. Thanks, — Colin (talk) 08:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I changed my vote to support. Though in that picture from your link, it's much easier to see the edge of the camera—it's a very dark gray rather than blending into the background. but anyway. I've already tried callibrating my monitor the best I could but most of the guides refer to settings that don't exist in my monitor's menu...—Love, Kelvinsong talk 14:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

FP Promotion[edit]

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FP Promotion[edit]

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Ukrainian translation of your great works[edit]

Hello, i want to translate your designs in ukrainian language, if you don't mind. :)
I will upload it to wikimedia and will leave links here.
I'm using Adobe Illustrator for vectors, so unsure if all compatibilities will be fine.
Will save them as SVG v.1.1, that version tags i saw in text editor.
Wyrrax (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Lol go ahead!! Though adobe illustrator has caused some problems with file bloat && stuff so I wouldn't reccomend using itt—Love, Kelvinsong talk 17:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Внутрішня будова Ганімеда
Here my first localisation, my old Ai CS4 cannot handle proper import of SVG effects so i decide to use Inkscape for it :)
I'll wait pair of weeks to check that i uploaded this file with right license and no copyright-cops are after me :))
Then I'll proceed with all the planets translation.
Wyrrax (talk) 17:47, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Done :)

It would be great if you add this localizations to your pages where all language versions are seen. It's cool when all this multilanguage stuff is gathered together :)
Wyrrax (talk) 15:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Omg thanks!! But can you please like keep the text data in the file on a hidden layer or something? It makes it a lot easier to retypeset the fonts and fix mistakes. I had to retype that entire saturn picture on a ukrainian keyboard...—Love, Kelvinsong talk 03:10, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, i'm just tried to edit your english hidden texts and there was some troubles for me, don't remember, transparency was permanent or unselectable/uneditable text (because of Inkscape or my skill :) so i decide to not left any new Cyryllic glitched or bugged layers in this files :)
I see typos in new Ganymede version: "Полаярна шапка" instead of "Полярна" and "у позрізі" instead of "у розрізі"
Also there is no numbering of ices in ukrainian wikipedia, they just called "tetra-, hexa-, mono- etc., so лід (1h) or (6) will be confusing for pupils
Typos in new Saturn: "Полаярне сяйво" instead of "полярне" and "Полярній шестикутник" instead of "Полярний"
Wyrrax (talk) 07:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed—lol sorry I could have sworn I had fixed these alreadyyy—Love, Kelvinsong talk 21:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

MicroRNA illustration[edit]

Dear Kelvinsong,

First of all, I would like to thank you for your beautiful and informative scientific images.

I am writing to suggest some corrections to the image you previously created for the microRNA page, which would make it even better.

1. It is the pre-miRNA (not the pri-miRNA) hairpin that exits the nucleus. Also, most pre-miRNAs have a 2 nucleotide 3’ overhang (rather than the 3 nucleotide 5’ overhang shown.

2. Dicer removes the hairpin loop as you have nicely shown. However, Dicer typically does not also trim off nucleotides at the base of the hairpin. I see that your reference 3 might be interpreted as saying otherwise, but that paper was studying a hairpin with a 3 nucleotide 5’ overhang, which the authors say is not typical of a pre-miRNA hairpin. The base of the typical pre-miRNA hairpin is not trimmed (see Figure 1 of PMID: 17381280).

3. In plant cells the microRNA is usually not perfectly complementary to the to the mRNA. There is usually at least one mismatch. Instead of “perfectly complementary to” you could say that it is “nearly perfectly complementary to”. (I’ve also corrected this wording in the text of the article.)

4. Each miRNA is associated with only one Argonaute protein.

5. The presence of the microRNA does not “block” translation, but you could say that it “reduces” translation. (What actually seems to be reduced is translation initiation, without any blocking/slowing of ribosomes that are translocating along the associated mRNA.)

6. With regard to the pairing to targets usually observed in animals, you might consider dropping the preference for an A or U across from nucleotide 9, since this is a weak preference compared to the other preferences that you illustrate. Although it would be good the keep the supplementary pairing to nucleotides 13-16, the text could say something like “Nucleotides 13-16: Perfect base pairing to this region can supplement pairing to the seed region but is not observed for most targets.” (see Figure 1 of PMID: 19167326).

Thank you again for your wonderful contributions to science education.

VTD (talk) 19:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!! Wow that's a lot of corrections but I'll see if I can get to thatt—Love, Kelvinsong talk 03:26, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


Dear Mr. Kelvin Song:

Greetings from Abiva Publishing House, Inc.!

Abiva is a Philippine publisher offering textbooks in basic education. We are currently securing reprint/distribution rights for the materials that will be included in REAL-LIFE SCIENCE 4. As part of the process we need to trace the copyright holder (artist, writer and/or publisher) of each material.

Our author would like to include an image illustrating the structure of the sun. The image can be viewed on this webpage: In light of this, we request your permission to publish the image in printed and e-book version of the worktext.

We sincerely hope for your favorable response to our request. Please send us your reply with your terms and/or other conditions that we need to comply.

Thank you very much!

Kindest regards,

Kaypee Beltran Copyright Researcher Abiva Publishing House, Inc.

Translation to French[edit]

Hello Kelvin ! First of all, thank you very much for the great board of biology. I'm a french biology student and your work has been helpful and entertaining. However I've seen that your recent work isn't available in French, which is why I'm wondering if you'd be interested in a translation.

Could you please specify how to attribute (provide some examples of credit lines that will appropriately credit your work)[edit]

Hey Kelvin, I am thinking about using a couple of your AWESOME biology images in my PhD thesis introduction (particularly the organelles and protein synthesis). Could you please provide a couple of examples of a credit line that I could use as guide to comply with the licensing you have specified?

Thank you so much for your beautiful images that help us better understand/visualize complex concepts (you know what they say: "One (good) image is worth 1000 words.")

Thank you in advance for you response. Cheers, Belisa Santos

“Image created by Kelvin Song” and a link back to my user page or something if possible is fine (idrk if thesis introductions are a print or internet thing)—Love, Kelvinsong talk 01:06, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

FP Promotion[edit]

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Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:West Antarctic ice sheet.svg[edit]

Hi, I reviewed your nomination. Since there are several featured images, each of them needs to be manually added to the lists. Could you help please? The procedure is at Commons:Featured picture candidates/What to do after voting is finished. Congratulations, and regards, Yann (talk) 21:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Np! ✓ DoneLove, Kelvinsong talk 22:48, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg I find your diagrams about molecular biology to be more helpful than my textbooks. I sincerely appreciate your hard work and the fact that you translate these into Chinese, as I may practice my Chinese while studying for bio as well! 你很棒! Austinprince (talk) 21:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Came across your work in the Picture of the Year voting. That glacier diagram is something else! Impressive. Good work. Cheers, Astrocog (talk) 13:55, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Plant.jpg's Indonesian version[edit]

Dear Kelvin, This is a derivative version from your work done by one of Indonesian Wikipedia writing competition participant. Thanks for making this great work! --Beeyan (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Plant morphology Bahasa Indonesia.svg

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Override Gamma (talk) 18:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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This is absolute crazy good vector artwork that you are delivering at a constant level. I tried to get into that some years ago but never reached your level of skills. I would love to see more explanatory texts how you created this artwork (which programs you used, etc). Nowadays I am more into 3d plotting than some years ago, so I would probably be able to help with e.g. rendering the wireframe of such a guy like File:CMB Timeline75.jpg to SVG (actually I studied astrophysics while I did not contribute to the commons).

Keep going on!!! Sven (talk) 17:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar pile-on[edit]

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Good God, man, the quality and quantity of work you produce is both incredible and humbling. I stumbled across your work thanks to the image of the year election and I was absolutely blown away by the set of diagrams that are up for the spot. Whether or not you win image of the year, you deserve some serious kudos from, well, humanity for sharing such great information in a beautiful, informative, and clear way. I'm not nearly as active as I used to be around here, so I haven't followed encyclopedic progress as much as I should, but the quality of the encyclopedia is significantly greater since you've come along and donated your time and skill toward the end goal of sharing knowledge with every human being connected to the Net. You make the Internet not suck. Well done. upstateNYer 03:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)