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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-06
The winner this Translation of the week is
Please be bold and help translate this article! ![]() Sweden Finns' Day (Finnish: Ruotsinsuomalaisten päivä, Swedish: Sverigefinnarnas dag) is an anniversary celebrated in Sweden on 24 February. The anniversary of the calendar was approved by the Swedish Academy in 2010 and was celebrated for the first time in 2011. February 24 was chosen as the birthday of Carl Axel Gottlund, a collector of folk poetry and a defender of the status of the Finnish language. The purpose of the day is to celebrate the Sweden Finns and to recognize their history, language and culture as a prominent part of Sweden's cultural heritage. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Tech News: 2023-06
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- In the Vector 2022 skin, logged-out users using the full-width toggle will be able to see the setting of their choice even after refreshing pages or opening new ones. This only applies to wikis where Vector 2022 is the default. [1]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).
- Previously, we announced when some wikis would be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. These switches will not be announced any more, as the read-only time has become non-significant. Switches will continue to happen at 7AM UTC on Tuesdays and Thursdays. [2]
- Across all the wikis, in the Vector 2022 skin, logged-in users will see the page-related links such as "What links here" in a new side menu. It will be displayed on the other side of the screen. This change had previously been made on Czech, English, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [3]
- Community Wishlist Survey 2023 will stop receiving new proposals on Monday, 6 February 2023, at 18:00 UTC. Proposers should complete any edits by then, to give time for translations and review. Voting will begin on Friday, 10 February.
Future changes
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This Month in Education: January 2023
This Month in Education
Volume 12 • Issue 1 • January 2023
- Educational Projects 2023-1 in Mexico
- Integration of Wikipedia in Ukrainian universities – teacher-led and student-led
- Transitional Justice in Kosovo edit-a-thon and Partnership with Faculty of Electrical and Computer Engineering - University of Prishtina
- Wikidata Citation Hunt Program for secondary school students, Dubai
- Wikipedia edit-a-thon with students from Art Faculty - University of Prishtina
- Тeacher from Belgrade got a reward for using Wikibooks in teaching
Template PD-coin rubbing
One more thing, perhaps Template:PD-coin rubbing should have a large C in the beginning to align with the main one for scanning? - Anonimski (talk) 23:30, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Anonimski, that's a good idea, though I'm not sure if I should manually change this template on every page where it is used or if it will happen automatically through the redirect. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:35, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #558
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- Discussions
- New requests for permissions/Bot:
- BiodiversityBot 3 Task/s: TreatmentBank (Q54857867) is a CC0 resource that contains data on taxonomic treatments, treatment citations, figures, tables, material citations and bibliographic reference. It contains valuables links mapping scholarly articles, taxa and taxonomic treatments. This bot task involves linking research papers on taxa to taxa and related taxonomic treatments.
- Closed request for permissions/Bot:
- Bean49Bot 4 Task/s: Add Springer Nature person ID and Springer Nature article ID by moving from exact match property.
- Cmtqwikibot Task/s: Adds country of origin (P495) Canada (Q16), with qualifier located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) Quebec (Q176) and reference stated in (P248) CineTV (Q41001657) to works in Quebec.
- SakuraBot Task/s: interwiki maintenance
- JhsBot 7 Task/s: Change stress markings on Norwegian Bokmål lexeme IPA transcription (P898) statements.
- New requests for permissions/Bot:
- Events
- Upcoming
- Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call February 7, 2023: We thought we'd try something different next week, in honor of Valentine's Day month: What's Your Wikidata Passion? What is your central Wikidata interest right now? It can be a work or personal project or just what you like to edit when you have time. We'd love to have an open mic session, completely informal. Please add yourselves to the list on our agenda here if you would like to talk for 5 minutes or so and share your screen, with no need for formal slides. Or just show up and talk on the spur of the moment. This will be a community session where we welcome all to participate! Agenda
- Wiki for Refugees Editathons on the 4th and 11th of February 2023 (Wikimedia Uganda)
- Black History Month 2023: University of Toronto (February 8th)
- Ongoing
- Weekly Lexemes Challenge #79, Archaeology (see previous challenges: Random concepts #2, Spices)
- Past
- Wikibase Live Sessions (2023.01.26)
- Upcoming
- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Blogs
- Diff blog: Summary of the results of a recent survey on Wikimedia content partnerships tools by WMSE. The detailed report is available on meta.wikimedia.org and as a PDF on Wikimedia Commons.
- A Game of Data
- 'wikishootme' Is Like a Real World Version of Pokémon Go
- Turn the AC on, by Magnus Manske
- Papers
- Unsupervised Entity Linking with Guided Summarization and Multiple-Choice Selection (Uses GPT-3 and Wikidata)
- Visibility Matters: Giving Credit Where It's Due in Natural History Collections, Siobhan Leachman, The Linnean, December 2022
- Falcon 2.0: An Entity and Relation Linking Tool over Wikidata
- The URW-KG: a Resource for Tackling the Underrepresentation of non-Western Writers
- From unstructured texts to semantic story maps
- Videos
- Wikimentor Africa - Creating a website based on Wikidata, without development skills day two (in French) - Part1, Part 2
- Tools for linking Wikidata and OpenStreetMap, FOSDEM 2023 - YouTube
- Etymology and Wikidata on OpenStreetMap -YouTube
- LIVE Wikidata editing: #103, #104
- Working with ISBNs (in Italian) - 3 part YouTube playlist
- Round table "Women, Science and Wikidata" (in Catalan) - YouTube
- Managing Wikimedia Projects through Wikidata: Geert Van Pamel- Wikimedia Belgium - YouTube
- SEMIC Talks: Wikibase with Dennis Diefenbach - YouTube
- observablehq
- Garden Phylogeny - NCBI breakdown of common garden foods with photographs by Phytotheca
- other
- Blogs
- Tool of the week
- Let's Quiz is a game that generates random quizzes to test your knowledge & learn something new every day.
- User:Nikki/AddTermboxLanguage.js - makes it easier to add/edit labels to an item in a language other than the ones shown by default.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Building cool apps and services on top of Wikidata's data but running into ontology issues? We'd love to hear from you in this survey to make things better for you.
- Wikimedia developer satisfaction survey 2023, open until Fri, 17 Feb 2023.
- Maintenance on ElasticSearch. As part of this, some Wikibase.Cloud functionality might be disrupted.
- Reminder that the deadline for the Semantic Web Journal Special Issue on Wikidata is approaching (but extended)! Get your journal papers ready for the 14.02.23
- Wikidata surpassed 1 million Lexemes with the addition of etymologi (L1000000)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: Happy Planet Index score (The Happy Planet Index (HPI) is an index of human well-being and environmental impact that was introduced by the New Economics Foundation in 2006), credits URL (URL of an official webpage with a list of credits and roles attributed to various people, organizations or applications that contribute(d) to this item's existence), digital equivalent of (the subject is the digital equivalent of what?)
- External identifiers: Los Angeles County Coroner's Office Case Search person ID, Roblox experience ID, WW1 fallen/missing soldier ID (MHA), RISM siglum, N-Anime anime ID, N-Anime seiyū ID, Livres Hebdo author ID, International Encoded Han Character and Variants Database ID, Artlog institution ID, Barcelona City Council Heritage Catalog identifier, TikTok place ID, Jiddisch-Nederlands Woordenboek ID, Real Academia de Doctores de España ID, AllMovie genre ID, authors.gr ID, Dictionary of Archives Terminology ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: precedes/follows various things (this lexeme form appears only when preceding another lexeme form with this phonological feature), footnote (for use in the references section of statements: to state which footnote of the source material supports the claim in question), agent of action (thing that does the action), natural enemy (One of the causes of death of this living creatures referred to in this item, which is eaten by that creature), change of (property this process changes), object of action (thing an action is done to), variety of sense (dialect, variety or register of language that the sense applies to), bust/waist/hip measurements (chest measurement; aliases: bust measurement), usage label (list of sets of context label property (Q116547761) (language style (P6191), field of usage (P9488), has quality (P1552), variety of form (P7481), location of sense usage (P6084)). Other individual context label property (Q116547761) statement will be treated as and with this statement.), thesaurus' properties (primary topic of the subject Wikimedia thesaurus)
- External identifiers: Malaysia Federal Legislation act ID, The Hart Island Project person ID, explain xkcd ID, Iowa legislator ID, Jewish English Lexicon ID, Islam Dusunce Atlasi ID, ForPost persons ID, Crimean virtual necropolis persons ID, Museu Paulista iconography ID, Vintage Fashion Guild Labels, Museu Paulista objects ID, Facebook numeric ID, Qobuz album ID (Feb 2023), Patreon user numeric ID, Kulturenvanteri.com, beniculturali.it place ID, Russian Second League player ID, TVer IDs, NPD field-ID
- Query examples:
- Map of disasters by type (source)
- Maps of museums in Malaysia (source)
- Map with place names that gave names to places in Riga (source)
- Area of sovereign states without a river (source)
- Wikidata properties whose URL format matches some format (source)
- People born in the Vatican (https://twitter.com/slaettaratindur/status/1613861217440866306 source)
- Shortest rail link between Narvik and Singapore (source)
- Memes (source)
- Top album languages found on Wikidata right now (Week 4, 2023) (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- REST API: adding a new GET /entities/items/{item_id}/descriptions endpoint (phab:T327881)
- Lua: added two Lua functions, getDescriptionByLang (phab:T230839) and getBadges (phab:T305378) that make it easier to get this data on Wikipedia and co
- Lexicographical data: added documentation for the WikibaseLexeme JSON structure (phab:T201489)
- Action API: fixed a bug that prevented the wblistentityusage API module from being used as a generator (phab:T254334)
- Dates: working together with Matěj Suchánek to fix date parsing issues in Czech (phab:T221097)
- Constraints: working on showing constraint clarification messages to make it easier to understand why a constraint violation is happening and how to fix it (phab:T219037)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
This Month in GLAM: January 2023
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Could you delete all User:Sephiroth360 improperly uploaded images. GlatorNator (talk) 22:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- GlatorNator,
Done, I've nominated them all for deletion. These images bring back some memories for me as I used to play the game "Tekken 3" a lot together with my father and older sister when I was a kid on our Sony PlayStation. Anyhow, if you want to delete an image just click on the "Nominate for deletion" button on the left side of the page. As I have a mobile device nominating multiple images for deletion isn't easy for me as the tools don't work properly with my sausage fingers.
Thank you for notifying me of these copyright violations. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)- Wow, I used to play Tekken too when I was still in high school on the PSP. Time flies. I am also at mobile tihi, but thank you for replying. GlatorNator (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- GlatorNator, Glad to help, if you have any questions or need any help feel free to ask or at the help desk. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wow, I used to play Tekken too when I was still in high school on the PSP. Time flies. I am also at mobile tihi, but thank you for replying. GlatorNator (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Uploading images of Tekken for Wikipedia
This did not turned out well judging from the amount of copyvio Trade (talk) 19:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Trade, Wikipedia allows fair use, the Wikimedia Commons doesn't. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- He did not uploaded the fair use pictures to Wikipedia. That's the problem Trade (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Trade: , which is why I advised him / her to do it there and not here, the Wikimedia Commons has strict licensing rules, Wikipedia allows copyrighted material. I nominated the images for deletion so they could save them and upload them to Wikipedia with a fair use rationale, I also explained to them why those images weren't allowed here. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does allow it, see this image as an example. -- Wikipedia typically allows everything while the Wikimedia Commons doesn't, but if users want to upload an image they're usually directed to the Wikimedia Commons and may be confused why Wikipedia hosts a lot of copyrighted images while the Wikimedia Commons doesn't. I tried to explain them that they could upload it to Wikipedia because of fair use, but that the Wikimedia Commons is the wrong place because it violates our licensing rules. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Trade: , which is why I advised him / her to do it there and not here, the Wikimedia Commons has strict licensing rules, Wikipedia allows copyrighted material. I nominated the images for deletion so they could save them and upload them to Wikipedia with a fair use rationale, I also explained to them why those images weren't allowed here. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- He did not uploaded the fair use pictures to Wikipedia. That's the problem Trade (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #559
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- Discussions
- New requests for permissions/Bot:
- CJMbot (CJMbot lets users upload a CSV file in a certain format. The data inside this file is then validated and processed. New items wil be created based on the data in the CSV file and existing items wil updated by adding statements and references).
- RPI2026F1Bot 5 Task/s: Import dependency and version data from PyPi
- New requests for permissions/Bot:
- Events
- Upcoming
- Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikibase Working Hour February 13, 2023. The February Working Hour will feature a presentation by Steve Baskauf on using VanderBot with Wikibase: The Wikibase API provides a mechanism for programmatic control of uploads, and its behavior is consistent across instances (Wikidata, Structured Data in Commons, and those that are established privately). In this session, Steve will discuss basic interactions with the API and demonstrate using the VanderBot Python application to rapidly upload tabular data to a wikibase.cloud instance. After performing a mass deletion, Steve will conclude by describing how he's used the Wikibase API to facilitate addition of structured data to Commons. Registration link
- Strategically Using Production Photos to Increase Your Online Discoverability, February 22 and 24, 2023. This two-part workshop presented by CAPACOA will explain how to upload performing arts production photos to Wikimedia Commons and how to document credits in Wikidata.
- Ongoing
- Weekly Lexemes Challenge #80, Work
- Upcoming
- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Blogs
- Social reproduction in the French cinema: evidence from Wikidata: Observable notebook which explores social reproduction by occupation in France.
- Data analytics for your list of created articles in The Signpost, February 4, 2023
- DigAMus goes Wikidata
- Papers
- Transformer Based Geocoding
- Videos
- LIVE Wikidata editing #105 - YouTube
- Demo of the Wikibase Export extension - YouTube
- FOSDEM 2023
- Tools for linking Wikidata and OpenStreetMap (Software for adding links between open data projects)
- Public Transport Data in KDE Itinerary (Querying realtime journey data and dissecting ticket barcodes)
- observablehq
- other
- Blogs
- Tool of the week
- User:So9q/openalex-search-link-on-lexemes.js is a userscript that adds a link to Ordia in the Tools section on items.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikidata Graph Builder released a major update, introducing new layouts and visualization ideas. You can read the full changelog here.
- The new Service Level Objective for the Wikidata Query Service has been implemented: the current aim is to maintain a 95% uptime based on a 90 day rolling window. You can read the full announcement here.
- Observablehq.com recently introduced a system of tags. Anyone authoring a notebook using data from Wikidata can add the #Wikidata tag: https://observablehq.com/tag/wikidata?filter=recent.
- a.gup.pe provides group features for Mastodon. @wikidata@a.gup.pe is a group about Wikidata in general. @querywikidata@a.gup.pe is a group about Wikidata queries. Anyone can join those groups simply by following them in Mastodon. Anyone can share a message with all members of those groups by mentioning them in a publication in Mastodon or any other application of the Fediverse.
- The hashtag #Wikidata can be used to tag all publications related to Wikidata in Mastodon. Anyone can find recent publications using this tag using the search feature: https://wikis.world/tags/Wikidata.
- @wikidata@wikis.world is the official Mastodon account of the Wikidata project.
- You can now vote for your favorite proposals on the Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Wikidata. The voting phase is open until February 24th.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: said to be the same as (lexeme) (some source considers this lexeme to be the same lexeme or a spelling variant of another lexeme)
- External identifiers: Base de Dados de Livros de Fotografia profile ID (identifier for each Brazilian educational institution), federal identifier of street, DOSBox Compatibility ID, Internet Game Database franchise ID, Professional shogi player number, Bosworth-Toller's Anglo-Saxon Dictionary Online ID, Norwegian war prisoner detention camp ID, Qobuz artist numeric ID, Sindhi English Dictionary ID, Dicio ID, Dicionário Aulete ID, GLANSIS ID, Léxico ID, ESPN.com tennis player ID, Encyclopedia of Italian ID, Iowa legislator ID, Rate Your Music film genre ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: Zoning symbol (planing zone of the municipality/region/state that applies to the subject), INEP ID, CulturaEduca ID (identifier for each Brazilian educational institution), Manantiales y Fuentes de Andalucia (id for Springs and Fountains of Andalucía)
- External identifiers: Hultschiner Soldaten ID, STS program ID, SACEM ID, IATE entry ID, Epigraphik-Datenbank Clauss / Slaby ID, IRIS UNIPD author ID
- Query examples:
- Number of literary works (Q7725634) by language (P407) in descending order (source)
- Humans that have a 'relationship' with University of Leeds (source)
- Railway stations named after literary works (source)
- Week 6, 2023: Top album languages found on Wikidata right now (source)
- Free software grouped by programming language and instance of (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- [Significant change] Heads-up: Upcoming fixes for date parsing - Thank you Matej for moving this forward!
- REST API:
- Went over the feedback on the first release and deciding on the next routes to add
- Added a new endpoint for getting descriptions (phab:T327881)
- Worked on throwing exceptions when something goes wrong (validation failed, Item not found, etc.) instead of returning an error response object (phab:T327527)
- Entity Schemas: Finished the technical exploration that will unblock the next steps for actual development
- Query Service: Changed URLs with URL-encoded characters to be shown un-encoded for better line-breaks and readability (phab:T327514)
- Query Builder:
- Adding support for a few additional datatypes (phab:T328528)
- Adding a basic language selector to make it easier to switch the language of the page (phab:T328764)
- Constraint checks: Working on showing constraint clarification messages to make it easier to understand how to fix a violation on a statement (phab:T219037)
- Search: Exploring design options for how to make it easier to search for entities other than Items (phab:T327507)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Tech News: 2023-07
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On wikis where patrolled edits are enabled, changes made to the mentor list by autopatrolled mentors are not correctly marked as patrolled. It will be fixed later this week. [4]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).
- The Reply tool and other parts of DiscussionTools will be deployed for all editors using the mobile site. You can read more about this decision. [5]
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [6][7][8]
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File:40278-Taipei-WRMuseum (7964610314).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
User who nominated the file for deletion (Nominator) : 2001:B011:A401:1E1E:A9CD:AA26:9EB0:A512.
And also:
- File:40164-Taipei-WRMuseum (7964488246).jpg ( Nominator : 2001:B011:A401:1E1E:A9CD:AA26:9EB0:A512 | Entry page : Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Statues of Guanyin in New Taipei )
- File:40158-Taipei-WRMuseum (7964487090).jpg ( Nominator : 2001:B011:A401:1E1E:A9CD:AA26:9EB0:A512 | Entry page : Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Buddhist statues in New Taipei )
- File:40268-Taipei-WRMuseum (7964601682).jpg ( Nominator : 2001:B011:A401:1E1E:A9CD:AA26:9EB0:A512 | Entry page : Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Buddhist statues in New Taipei )
I'm a computer program; please don't ask me questions but ask the user who nominated your file(s) for deletion or at our Help Desk. //Deletion Notification Bot 2 (talk) 18:56, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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File:40568-Taipei-WRMuseum (7964542362).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
User who nominated the file for deletion (Nominator) : 2001:B011:A401:1E1E:A9CD:AA26:9EB0:A512.
I'm a computer program; please don't ask me questions but ask the user who nominated your file(s) for deletion or at our Help Desk. //Deletion Notification Bot 2 (talk) 19:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)