User talk:JMOprof

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Image source[edit]

You uploaded a few image all of which have the same source http://www.navsea.navy.mil/nswc/crane but none actually link to the images themselves. We need to check the copyright status and cannot do that, so effectively they are unsourced. Please add the appropriate links to the pages the images appear on. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Full paths to the files added. Please run your reviews again. How are renamed files handled? And do your reviews clean up the unsourced notifications? Thanks JMOprof (talk) 21:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Personally I prefer to see the source link to the page the image is displayed on and not the link to the image itself because very often it is nearly impossible to find the displaying page where the details or copyright notices are showing. The image is just that, an image. After searching around the site I found File:NSWC Crane acoustic sensors.jpg and corrected the source link for you; the rest are up to you. I have reviewed them all for you on the basis that you will now add the displaying page link but if you know they are correct you can remove then yourself, however, if I miss any let me know. However, I notice that you don't provide good image descriptions or the photographer details. Most of this is actually shown in great detail in the metadata at the bottom of the page, so you might use some or all of that. Another comment concerns whether these images are likely to have any use, because while they are public domain I always think we should consider whether our uploads will actually be used by anyone. Do you have some uses lined up? I personally tend to upload images for which I have at least one immediate use. When you have time I think you should go back and review your older July uploads; I was able to find the source page for this image File:CDR Samuel D. Dealey 50510t.jpg and uploaded a higher resolution image.
To rename files you should first read COM:RENAME but files can be tagged for renaming if they are seriously wrong by adding the appropriate request template Template:rename in the form of {{rename|New name.jpg|reason for new name.}} when it will be listed in Category:Media requiring renaming and an admin will get around to it depending on the backlog. Image reviews only get corrected if they are manually reviewed and revised otherwise they tend to stay until someone notices an error. Hope that helps. Ww2censor (talk) 03:31, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your diligence and kindness. You must have images that you consider model submissions. Could you provide me a link? Using the Upload Wizard, I don't know where to put photographer details. I usually don't know them until I read the meta-data Wikimedia extracts for me. I can certainly move it to the more appropriate place if that is customary. I see that there are embedded comments on a few, and I'll move those to the applicable descriptions.
My question about renaming was about when I change the from the original name because that name might be already used for instance, or if I want a different one at the uploading. If your checking is a manual effort, I can see that is not an issue.
The "problem" with the NSWC Crane website is that they rotate their banners. Not all images are "live" all the time. I'll do what I can. You did answer a question I had, though, on whether it's better to link to the source or the display.
Thank you again for your patience and instruction. I am a Wiki novice, maybe even less, and I appreciate all the help I can get.
JMOprof (talk) 13:04, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm, happy to help any novices, so here goes. While I don't have any model submissions to suggest, if you look at the images on my upload page, I think they were all uploaded with at least one immediate article use, mainly on the en wiki. The photographer is the same as the author, but all those details can be added after the upload by updating the details after you see the metadata if you have not been able to do it during the upload process. It may be better not to use the Upload Wizard and use the old form Commons:Upload. While the CRANE website rotates their banners I found them linked from this webpage, so you don't need to rely on the main page as a source due to the image rotation which is likely done by a script over which you have no control. To decide choosing a file name we often do not name an image per the original but choose a name that describes the image better to help other editors discover it and use it. Ask again as necessary. Good luck. Ww2censor (talk) 14:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I happen to have kept File:NSWC Crane resources.jpg on my watch list and see you added a link to the page where all the images are lined from but that is not the page where the image is displayed and due to renaming it takes a while to figure out which one is which. If you click on the image name it bring up the image on a detail page and I have linked this image to that page instead. That is better. I hope you agree. Ww2censor (talk) 15:24, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I do agree. That's where we started. :-) See the top. I'll change them all back.
Oh, wait. I see that you linked to the form and not the file. Got it, I think. This will take a while. Thanks again.
Looks like you've got it now. BTW, there are loads of Barnstars. Ww2censor (talk) 15:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I so appreciate your help. I knew about the Wikipedia barnstars, but I couldn't get the template to work over here. Is there a way or a trick? More newbie-q's ☺
I'd be happy to add one over there if you're Ww2censor over there.

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My username is unified throughout the projects. BTW, no need to post a talkback as I have this page on my watchlist for now. You can always use any commons image in any project but I don't think the reverse is possible; you just have to use the local ones here if that;s what you want to do. Cheers Ww2censor (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the shiny branstar. Ww2censor (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

File:U.S. Pacific submarine on war patrol. Pacific sunlight silvers the sea. - NARA - 520690.tif[edit]

Since you obviously spent a few years submerged, have you any idea about the the class or even the name of the above sub? Gato, Balao, and Tench classes are (at least for me) not distinguishable... Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 13:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

What a delightful picture. My Dad would know, if only I could ask him. The abaft gun and the high-radar mast makes me say Balao, but no real way of knowing. See USS Sea Robin ...best, JMOprof (talk) 14:28, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

This and that[edit]

Hi, I just looked at the pictures you loaded up. Two things that came to my mind: 1. please crop the caption bar of the photos since it does not belong to the photo. In this case everybody who wants to see it can use the NHHC link. 2. Why do you upload tif-files? These often cannot be displayed on websites. If you look at the NARA uploads, they always have the tif and the jpeg file, also the tif is often so big that it takes eages for people without high-speed internet to load (if at all). Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cobatfor - I uploaded TIFs because I thought the guidance was to upload the best quality available. I can certainly also upload jpegs as alternate versions if that would be your recommendation. In this case, the caption is the legend that identifies the ships and not the picture. Seems most pertinent in my view. JMOprof (talk) 22:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Fine :-) just don't use titles too long, like with the USN photo bot (besides I think that there are many totally useless photos uploaded by this bot... [:File:US Navy 120209-N-OX321-593 Damage Controlman 2nd Class Eric Barnes speaks with 6th graders from Terao Elementary School as part of an English pract.jpg]). Well, I'm off to bed, it's 00:10 hrs over here ... Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 23:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
"Over here"->UK? You were talking borders, and I was talking legends, and its not the same thing. ☺ I see your point and vow to correct the error of my ways. I did learn that you can't shove a smaller jpeg into a tif hole. I had to make the LOC jpegs tifs. Fortunately Graphic Converter does that quite well. I now go for brevity in my titles, and content in the descriptions. If you search for "sound barrier" there are several mis-titled files from the Navy bot. Thanks as always for your help. JMOprof (talk) 13:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, if you look on my user page, you will find that I am not directly from Britain. Concerning the military, I saw mostly someone's air force planes, as eight NATO military air bases were in a (about) 100 km circle around my home town, meaning a low level overflight every ten minutes during the Cold War. Today, there are just three left. If you look closely at my uploads, you can find out my location (lots of good wine here!). Although, studying at LSU was also nice (but bloody humid). Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 19:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Photo date[edit]

Hi. I see you put info that the photograph File:H92571.jpg was from 2012 (!!) clearly not the case. I fixed the date field on this per the description. Please pay attention to presenting the information accurately. Thanks for your work. If you have any questions about using Commons you are having trouble finding answers for, feel free to ask. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, 2012 was clearly what it was when I uploaded it. ☺ ATD (NOT) then. Thanks for the pickup. JMOprof (talk) 17:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lawsofthenavy.jpg[edit]

You might like to take a look at this. Given your service in the USN, it's a little hard to understand how you could say that this was created by a US Government employee while at the same time clearly crediting an RN Admiral and Lieutenant.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 21:42, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Jim - get off your horse. You are saying the US Naval History & Heritage Command is violating copyright. These are their words:

To the best of our knowledge, all Online Library pictures are in the public domain and can therefore be freely downloaded and used for any purpose without requesting permission.

http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org11-2.htm

Given that the US Gov says it is PD, how do we mark it? That's my error. JMOprof (talk) 22:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid we must delete it -- the DR is a formality, as it almost certainly could be a {{speedy}}.
The US Naval History & Heritage Command is probably not violating copyright in the USA. It may have been first published here before 1923, but even if it wasn't, there doesn't appear to be a copyright notice on any of the pages and the copyright was almost certainly not renewed here. So, I would give very long odds that it is free of copyright in the USA.
However, Commons rules call for all of our images to be free of copyright in the country of origin as well as the USA. Since both creators were RN officers, and it was first written and drawn for the RN, the country of origin is almost certainly the UK. While Admiral Hopwood may have died before 1942, Rowland Langmaid, who did the drawings, was a significant British maritime artist who died in 1956. In the case of a joint work, the UK copyright law calls for 70 years after the death of the longest-lived creator, so the art will be under copyright in Britain until 2027. Therefore, we can't keep it.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 22:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Sigh. Well, that screws this up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JMOprof/sandboxJMOprof (talk) 22:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Not necessarily. I'm not expert on WP:EN's use of Fair Use, but you could try it. Certainly WP:EN shows images of copyrighted art works on a limited basis (see Picasso). I think you might run into trouble with the fact that your article is on Hopwood and both his text and Langmaid's art are still under copyright, but I'd certainly try it.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 23:02, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Season Greetings[edit]

HNS-1 Santa Claus at CGAS Brooklyn c1948.JPG

and a "guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr", as we say in German ("a good slide into the new year"). Cobatfor (talk) 12:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Maurice Rindskopf[edit]

Hi, I`ve created a new category: "Maurice H. Rindskopf", which belongs to Category:USS Drum (SS-228) among others. Thus all pictures of M. H. Rindskopf belong to it. Best regards - McOleo (talk) 06:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

AH!SO! Thanks. Good idea. JMOprof (talk) 13:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)