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Hinweis für alle Bilder bzw. Löschanträge: Sämtliche von AS-Motor hochgeladenen Bilder und Videos stammen von AS-Motor, AS-Motor Germany GmbH & Co. KG, ebenso liegen die Urheberrechte bei AS-Motor. Alle Produkte sind auch auf unserer Website https://www.as-motor.de nachgewiesen. --AS-Motor (talk) 15:09, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Wvdp (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bleib mal ganz ruhig[edit]

Hallo Unbekannte, nun werd mal nicht nervös, das kriegen wir schon hin. Erstmal das Wichtigste: Wenn ein Foto im Zuge des Verfahrens gelöscht wurde, dann auf keinen Fall erneut hochladen, das gibt hier immer vermeidbaren Ärger. Jede gelöschte Datei kann von einem Admin mit wenigen Mausklicks wieder hervorgezaubert werden. Zunächst mal zu eurem Account: Firmenaccounts sind hier nicht gern gesehen, weil sie oft zu Werbungszwecken verwendet werden (vgl. Commons:Username policy), davon habe ich schon hunderte gesperrt. Bei eurem geht es aber hin, weil es auf de:wp einen Artikel gibt und euer Account außerdem dort ein bestätigter ist. Nun zu den hochgeladenen Fotos. Da gibt es zwei mögliche Probleme, a) lizenzrechtliche und b) mögliche Werbung.

Rechtlich: Es ist ja so, dass im Prinzip jeder den Account AS-Motor hier hätte anlegen und dann die Fotos von eurer Webseite hätte ziehen und hochladen können. Ja, ich weiß, dass es nicht so ist, aber das ist aus den vorliegenden Informationen nicht zweifelsfrei ersichtlich. Deshalb ist leider in solchen Fällen ein etwas höherer Aufwand nötig, um sicherzustellen, dass hier keine "geklauten" Fotos hochgeladen wurden. Das passiert leider sehr oft, jeden Monat löschen wir hunderte solcher Bilder. Deshalb wurde das sog. OTRS-Verfahren entwickelt, siehe Commons:OTRS/de. Am besten schickst du eine E-Mail (vom Firmen-E-Mail-Account aus!) nach Muster Commons:ET/de#ERI an das OTRS-Team, dann kannst du auf den Foto-Seiten "permission = {{subst:OP}}" eintragen (wenn die Fotos nicht inzwischen gelöscht sind), dann geht alles seinen Gang, dauert aber evtl. ein wenig.

Werbung: Das ist hier immer eine Gratwanderung. Die beiden geschichtlichen Fotos sind klar, bei den anderen muss man sich halt fragen, ob sie als "lehrreich, informativ" angesehen werden können, oder eher als Vorstellung der Produktpalette. Das hängt natürlich auch sehr von der Beschreibung ab. Bei File:AS-Motor AS 751 RC.jpg sehe ich da gar keine Probleme, bei den anderen auch nicht, aber lies mal selbst im Vergleich dazu die Beschreibung bei File:AS-Motor AS 531.jpg. Siehst du den Unterschied?

Gruß, --Achim (talk) 18:48, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Achim55, vielen Dank für die Aufklärung! Mein Wissensstand aus den Wikipedia-Treffen war bislang, dass man sich freut, wenn auf Wikipedia (/Commons) qualitativ gute Bilder hochgeladen und gemeinfrei gestellt werden. Die 11 AS-Motor-Bilder sollten eigentlich den AS-Motor-Unternehmensartikel auf der Wikipedia optisch aufwerten.
Da uns der Genehmigungsprozess für 11 Bilder zu aufwändig ist, würde ich nur 3 davon dem Verfahren unterziehen: die beiden Geschichtsbilder AS 26 + AS 26-3 sowie der AS 940 Sherpa (der einen Preis gewonnen hatte).
Darf ich dazu etwas fragen? Ich weiß nicht, wo/wie ich die anderen 8 Bilder löschen kann, oder geht das nun gar nicht mehr? Hinzu kommt, dass das Bild AS 26-3 bereits im Schnelllöschverfahren gelöscht wurde. Um es wiederherstellen zu lassen und dem Verfahren zu unterziehen, muss ich dafür den Button "Wiederherstellen" klicken?
Herzliche Grüße im Voraus für etwaige Hilfe, --AS-Motor (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo, du hast ja recht, wir freuen uns ja über gute Fotos, aber stell dir mal vor, irgendjemand würde ein Benutzerkonto "Horst Seehofer" anlegen und Fotos von ihm hochladen. Hm, was nun? - Du kannst alle Bilder mit einer OTRS-E-Mail erledigen, auch das gelöschte mit, das ist kein Problem. Einfach Liste der Dateinamen reinschreiben (damit es der ehrenamtliche OTRS-Mitarbeiter leichter hat). Selber löschen kannst du Fotos nicht, das dürfen hier nur Admins, ebenso gelöschte Bilder wieder sichtbar machen. Gruß, --Achim (talk) 16:02, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Achim, nochmals danke für die Hinweise. Wir haben die OTRS-Verfahren entsprechend durchlaufen und sämtliche Bilder sind freigegeben. --AS-Motor (talk) 08:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]