User talk:Blackcat/Archive 16

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Check out: Commons:Village_pump#Disambiguation. Thanks. Evrik (talk) 03:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:ComuneItaly

Hello, with this change in template the Wikidata Infobox appears twice in some categories. This occurs in errors on Category:Pages with malformed coordinate tags when Wikidata Infobox is also added to the catories. --Migebert (talk) 15:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

 Info Currently there are now 6.845 categories listed. --Migebert (talk) 07:36, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Migebert: Can we handle that with a bot? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 13:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Isn't it better to remove Wikidata infobox from the template or the template have to lookup if Wikidata infobox already exists in category? A Bot was adding Wikidata infobox to all the categories, so we don't need it twice there. Just my 2 cents. Personally i would prefer to remove it. --Migebert (talk) 13:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes @Migebert: , meanwhile I had already removed it. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 13:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. It will take a while before Category:Pages with malformed coordinate tags will reduce the amount of categories. I will have an eye on it. --Migebert (talk) 15:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Unione categorie

Ciao, Category:Gibloux e Category:Gibloux FR andrebbero unite, ma non so come si fa... mi dai una dritta? Grazie, --Castagna (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

...occhefortuna conoscere un admin...--Castagna (talk) 23:37, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Textlogo?

Ciao, ieri ho caricato File:Garmisch 1978.png e File:St Moritz 1974.png licenziandole come textlogo secondo la prassi. Ho però ricevuto delle contestazioni in merito. Come la vedi? --Vale93b (talk) 14:36, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

eh, @Vale93b: , a parte che, come ogni buon oggetto di design tedesco, il logo di Garmisch Partenkirchen è di rara bruttezza — ma in generale proprio i logo anni settanta lo erano: i tedeschi ci mettevano solo il loro tocco di classe antiestetico — ho paura che abbia ragione chi ha segnalato il logo. In Germania la soglia di originalità è relativamente bassa: di fatto basta partorire un orrore qualsiasi accroccando tre linee e due curve e si può reclamare originalità. Per la Svizzera non lo so invece, ma mi pare complesso anche lì. Fosse italiano, inglese o americano concorderei con la tesi della scarsa originalità perché la soglia è molto più alta, ci vuole ben altro per reclamarla. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 14:44, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Possibile erronea sezione foto

Buona sera, Le verrei a domandare la cortesia di verificare se l'ultima foto da me caricata, sia nella giusta sezione. A suo tempo caricai molte foto e mi furono tutte cancellate, tranne una parte, che un Suo collega gentilmente mi spiegò di esser state semplicemente poste nella sezione sbagliata e le mise in ordine. La foto in questione, File:Trattato_di_danza_di_Maestro_de_Fineschi_da_Radda_XVI_sec.jpg, è tranquillamente fruibile per tutti, ma non deve esser utilizzata a scopo di lucro (proviene da un testo conservato presso la Biblioteca degli Intronati di Siena). Un amministratore di Wikipedia mi ha fatto la cortesia di richiedere una modifica del titolo, che per distrazione ho sbagliato.

Le domanderei anche un'altra informazione/cortesia: più avanti vorrò caricare un certo numero di stemmi, formato digitale, che saranno creati da altro utente, che non carica più su Wikipedia, dando però a me la possibilità di farlo. Potrei chiederLe come poter agire senza che mi vengano tutti bloccati/cancellati? Grazie e buona serata. Guido Fineschi Sergardi (talk) 16:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Buonasera, @Guido Fineschi Sergardi: , rispondo per punti:

1. la fotografia, una volta liberata su Commons, è irrevocabilmente licenziata per qualsiasi uso. Fa parte delle policy di Commons che sono pubblicamente esposte prima di caricare un file. Quanto al contenuto, essa raffigura un testo del XVI secolo in pubblico dominio, come si può costruire un copyright su qualcosa che non ha diritti?
2. Per quanto riguarda gli stemmi, la persona in questione deve aprire un ticket al nostro servizio OTRS indicando, usando il modello allegato nella pagina indicata, esattamente la licenza (che non può essere non-commerciale, per stare su Commons) e i nomi esatti dei file per i quali si autorizza la liberatoria. Non si possono fare autorizzazioni generiche o una tantum.

Grazie per la collaborazione. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 16:55, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

RE: Possibile erronea sezione foto

La ringrazio per la risposta. Non avendo Lei trattato l'argomento, presumo quindi che la sezione per la foto sia corretta. È un peccato per quanto concerne gli stemmi digitali, perché non credo che la persona che li crea, sia disponibile ogni volta ad intervenire personalmente in OTRS. Potrei domandarLe la cortesia di approvare la modifica al titolo della foto (XV secolo, non XVI e l'aggiunta del nome del Maestro)? https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trattato_di_danza_di_Maestro_de_Fineschi_da_Radda_XVI_sec.jpg La ringrazio nuovamente e Le auguro una buona serata. Guido Fineschi Sergardi (talk) 18:02, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

RE 2 : Possibile erronea sezione foto

La ringrazio per l'intervento. Cordiali saluti Guido Fineschi Sergardi (talk) 19:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Licenza foto

Salve Blackcat, questa foto è sicuramente antecedente il 1936 quando la statua che vi è raffigurata fu praticamente distrutta. La foto è stata scattata in Spagna... ne è possibile l'upload su Commons? Grazie--Never covered (talk) 14:28, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Never covered: se non si conosce l'autore prova con {{PD-anon-70-EU}}. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 14:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Così? Che ne pensi? Grazie!--Never covered (talk) 15:16, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Collections of Accademia delle arti del disegno

Come mai questa modifica? Mi sembrava più corretta la prima versione, perché a parte le maiuscole c'era l'articolo. Possiamo ripristinare? --Sailko (talk) 16:35, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

RE: North Macedonia?

The FYROM changed its name to North Macedonia yesterday. It's a change that's accepted by the Greek government, so unlike previous names, "North Macedonia“ ia not in dispute by national governments or international institutions. Other users have been moving pages, files, and catefory without incident: [1], [2]. And I'm not sure how I could consider your message a "warning" when you haven't accused me of any wrongdoing. You, without explicitly claiming that there were any issues, merely asked me to explain what I was doing. Anyway, I'm planning to have everything taken care of; I'll move the categories, generate a list of moved categories, and then move everything moved into the proper categories. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 16:28, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't see a need to wait, especially since the outcome of any discussion is highly predictable (the outcme would be censensus for renaming the categories). I prefer decisiveness to bureaucractic slowness. I'm merely doing what's in Commons' interest by getting a task done. I have a plan. I promise that I'll have everything done and taken care of. May I please proceed with what I was doing? There's only going to be issues if I'm delayed. If I'm allowed to proceed, I can have everything done within 24 hours. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 16:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I saw the warning. Like I said in my first coment, I wanted to move everything first, then fix that stuff. May I please carry on with my taskes? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll do my best and try not to disappoint you. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 19:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:Contestants_of_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_by_country

Contestants of the Eurovision Song Contest by country has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

E4024 (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Abolizione cat "Ancient Roman categories"

Ciao Blackcat. Secondo me non è stata una buona idea quella di spostare tutte le categorie relative alla civiltà romana da "Ancient Roman categories" a "Categories of ancient Rome". Quest'ultima infatti è problematica perché si presta ad ambiguità che si sono evidenziate più volte in passato. Capisco che in inglese si usa "ancient Rome" per indicare anche la civiltà romana. Ma noi qui abbiamo bisogno di distinguere l'antica città di Roma dalla civiltà romana. E le categorie di Roma antica non sono poche. Ora invece ci sarà di nuovo questo marasma che nelle categorie di Roma antica verranno caricati continuamente files relativi non alla città ma alla civiltà romana in generale, e dei luoghi più disparati dell'antico mondo romano. Cui prodest? Forse prima di avviare un cambiamento così grosso e radicale per un corpo di categorie non marginali, sarebbe stato opportuno aprire una discussione. Come in genere si fa. Buona serata. --DenghiùComm (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok. E' da una vita che trasformiamo gli "Italian" in "of Italy". Ma ora, concretamente, quale è la soluzione che tu proponi per il nostro problema di cui sopra? Ignorare il problema non è una soluzione. --DenghiùComm (talk) 05:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Risposta? --DenghiùComm (talk) 07:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Non vedo il problema. Antica Roma = civiltà Romana, mica è milanese. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 11:09, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Scusami Sergio. Credo di essermi spiegato chiaramente. Abbiamo un problema di comprensione non univoca. Per me "Ancient Rome" è come "Ancient Naples" o "Ancient Syracuse". Perciò l'uso di "Ancient Roman" per me andava bene per indicare invece la civiltà Romana. Se tu reputi che questa formulazione non è accettabile ti invito a trovare insieme a me (o se necessario anche insieme ad altri) una formulazione alternativa che non sia ambigua. Non voglio che si torni al marasma che ho dovuto sanare dieci anni fa. Grazie. --DenghiùComm (talk) 19:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Io ho capito. Il fatto è che in inglese "Ancient Rome" indica tutto quanto legato alla romanità antica. Non le faccio io le consuetudini linguistiche inglesi. Se in inglese "China shop" significa "negozio di porcellane", non puoi usare "China Shop" per indicare un negozio cinese. Non possiamo inventare una nomenclatura inglese che non esiste. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 19:44, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

E allora la soluzione quale è? Ci sarà pure un modo per distinguere la città di Roma dalla civiltà romana. --DenghiùComm (talk) 10:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Io ti propongo - se non c'è una soluzione - di rollbackare il tutto. DenghiùComm (talk) 10:51, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Ho deciso che ripristinerò la vecchia categorizzazione. --DenghiùComm (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Sergio. Io vorrei risolvere questo problema che 10 anni fa fu risolto in questa maniera in accordo con Bibi de Saint Paul e Foroa. Io penso che proprio questa può essere una eccezione accettabile, anche perché ci sono migliaia di categorie "Ancient Roman" in tutte le nazioni. Io vorrei risolvere la cosa con te. Ma se non riusciamo a trovare una soluzione, allora apriamo una discussione pubblica al riguardo. Forse dove non ci arriviamo noi, ci arriverà qualcun altro a indicarci un modo giusto di chiamare queste categorie. DenghiùComm (talk) 03:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Spaghetti alla chitarra

Hey, I noticed that Category:Spaghetti alla chitarra is in Category:Spaghetti dishes - is that right? Isn't it a kind of pasta, rather than a spaghetti dish? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Themightyquill: , yes, basically you're right, because technically Spaghetti alla chitarra is a technique of making spaghetti, not cooking. They are made through a tool with metal strings, hence the name chitarra (Italian for guitar). -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 09:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Wikidata Infobox/core

Please use Template:Wikidata Infobox/core/sandbox to test edits, rather than the code that's live in ~2.1 million categories! Also, the css is now defined at Template:Wikidata Infobox/styles.css (with a sandbox verson at Template:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox/styles.css). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Country

Can you please update the entry for MK from "Macedonia" to "North Macedonia"? The template is protected, so I can't do it myself. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Sure, @Michaeldsuarez: , just done. I even thought I had already done it some days ago. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 15:11, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:28, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

COM:AN/U

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Why?

What's the point?. Since streets are apparently a subcategory/subclass/type of "roads", naming the category that way is pretty similar to a hypothetical Category:Animals and mammals in Spain. Aditionally there's no a single "road-but-not-street" in that category. Strakhov (talk) 09:35, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Uhmm... no. I do not agree. If the point is consistency, you may have created consistency there, but you destroyed consistency here as now "Category:Roads and streets" is a subcategory of "streets". I think it's that simple as:

1) If inside of a category there's only "streets"... the category should be generally named "streets". If you find a road named after a monarch in Spain (TBH... not happening), feel free to create Category:Roads named after monarchs in Spain and subcategorize Category:Streets named after monarchs in Spain there. Plural categories ("Category:Things_X and thingsY") should generally be avoided.

2) If you want to create consistency within that pretty specific and "bifid" branch ("roads and streets named after monarchs"), you can also create Category:Roads and streets named after monarchs in Spain and categorize there the Category:Streets named after monarchs in Spain. Two clicks needed to get to the streets, yeah, but at least the consistency is intact along the other side of the "category tree".

Strakhov (talk) 09:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

The consensus of that discussion may be reached after five, six years, but why not.. If you want to merge Category:Roads and Category:Streets and every subcategory of those ones... I guess it's probably not happening...There are separated categories and articles: Category:Roads, en:Road, Category:Streets, en:Street... If you intend to split the "Category:Roads and streets" ones (I had never seen a "Road-and-street" category until today) it's OK for me, but applying the solution 2) pointed above (when needed, at least in Spain) is probably less controversial, and no discussion would be needed... Strakhov (talk) 10:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:Ball games in Japan

What? [3] --Benzoyl (talk) 01:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

File:AmaRoma-logo.png

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r: Category:Italian veterans' organizations on Republic Day parede 2015

Grazie e scusami. La prossima volta, in caso di dubbi (sí, ne avevo!) mi riprometto di chiedere a te. --pegasovagante (✉) 16:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Distant views of Anfield Stadium

Nonsense? Why? Do you live in Liverpool? Have you spent years creating and categorising its images? Please don't do anything like that ever again. In future, consider CfD. And "Anfield (stadium)" is simply incorrect compared with "Anfield stadium". Stop doing things you know nothing about. To put you on notice, I've spent seven years on Liverpool categories now, and any alteration will be considered controversial, requiring a CfD. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu:

1. for what's worth, I've been a LFC fan since 1977 (with the likes of Clemence, Heighway, Keegan, Case, and so on);
2. the stadium's name is Anfield, not "Anfield Stadium" (or "Anfield Road")
3. and yes, "Distant views of bla-bla" is a non-sense. You cannot invent a category with not even a mothercat. "Distant" from where? Shall we create a category "Views of Goodison Park from my bathroom's window"? Please reflect on the absurdity of such categories. Being a Liverpool inhabitant doesn't make you an authority about the categorization of its panoramas. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 18:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

I have been a fan of the English language since about 1955. So much so that I use it every day. So what?

"Distant views" categories should have the topic as a mothercat. There are several of them, because it gets over the problem of how to apply geocoords. "Distant" is somewhat subjective" but landmarks are often viewed from afar so it makes sense to differentiate from photographs taken at or near them.

Brackets in a category name should be a red rag because they mean "is a" and often imply false disambiguation. Nobody, not even an Evertonian, would think that the stadium at Anfield should not be called "Anfield stadium" to distinguish it from the council ward and district of Anfield. Perfectly comprehensible and beyond any doubt. Rather than edit-war, I suggest you open a CfD if you really wish to fly in the face of a lifetime's experience of classification. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: , If you want to create a house then start from the foundation: propose a "distant views of" category. I don't like brackets too but since Anfield on Commons is already occupied by the district. On en.wiki Anfield with no disambiguation is the stadium. We cannot invent a name so yes, bracket are needed. As for the Evertonians, probably there are few that know that Anfield used to be their first home ground in the very last years of the club's life... -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 19:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

What's that feat, @Rodhullandemu: ? Do you block users for winning a discussion where you're denying the sources I provided? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 19:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Start a category by starting a Cfd? Now that's nonsense because it would mean that we would get nothing done beyond discussing categories. No, you go by the mode of en:WP:BOLD and just create it. I guess you're not disputing the block, which I have, as protocol requires, reported at COM:AN. So any further edits unconcerned with being unblocked will meet the usual response. An edit-war is an edit-war, the third edit is the blockable one, and it doesn't matter who does it as long as it stops the war. That's how it works. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Please, cancel that block and let's have a discussion. That's childish. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 19:45, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

I have unblocked Blackcat as this is clearly a block by an involved admin over a content dispute that is punitive, not preventative. Please continue the discussion via the appropriate forums where the rest of the community can weigh in. Jon Kolbert (talk) 19:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• I'm not going to discuss this tonight because right now I'm struggling to get breath and am going to take some rest. Tomorrow will see a full, closely-argued rationale for keeping it the way it was. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Copyvioler seriale

Ciao, ho appena trovato un copyviol di una foto di filobus presa in un forum e ho dato una rapida occhiata ai contributi di sto Sayatek e mi sembra un disastro... andando random 5 su 5 sono presi sulla rete, tra l'altro spesso sono pure immagini non categorizzate. Passi con il napalm?--Threecharlie (talk) 08:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/08/Category:Ireland

Ciao, volevo chiederti se hai ricevuto il mio ping in merito alla discussione in oggetto, perchè un utente mi ha detto che probabilmente i miei ping non dovrebbero funzionare per questioni di "signature timestamp".. mah--Lou6977 (talk) 08:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:University of Quebec

Ciao. Can you revert its rename, please? Grazie mille. --E4024 (talk) 21:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:Victims_of_religion

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E4024 (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm wondering why

you have moved Category:Sodom (musical group). Both band and musical group are OK. So, why changing something that is correct? Moreover, all the bands in the category of Sodom are disambiguated to "band". Any special reason to do so? --Discasto _talk 15:38, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Well, in fact, the category talks about "music groups". So that, the category should be (according to your argument) Category:Sodom (music group). Thus, we have a category named "... music groups in ..." fully populated by groups whose name is disambiguated to "... (band)" with a single exception: Sodom, which was disambiguated to "Sodom (band)", as all its mates, but is now disambiguated to "Sodom (musical group)". Weird, isn't it? And no, I'm not active in the English Wikipedia and have no actual idea about its policies. Best regards --Discasto _talk 16:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@93.145.160.4: , s.dafflitto[at]iol.it. Dammi conferma

File:Andy Ruiz Jr. 2019.jpg

Ciao Sergio, a me sembra che questa foto non possa essere stata fatta dall'utente guardando i metadati, mi sembra una scansione fatta il giorno seguente ma l'esperto sei tu, mi limito a segnalarti il mio dubbio. Grazie. --Abisys (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Buonasera Sergio, visto che sono ricapitato qui su Commons colgo l'occasione per chiederti un consiglio.

Abbiamo (avuto? è inattiva) una volenterosa utente che si è premurata di registrare dei file di pronunce italiane di nomi, es. di politici, ma benché parli piuttosto bene si sente l'inflessione straniera, talvolta appena percettibile (/ss/ diventa /s/ e /tt/ tende a /t/), talvolta però più marcata (/o/ tende a /ɔ/ e /ddz/ diventa /ts/) e talvolta anche del tutto sbagliata (il nome sdrucciolo è reso piano e /ɱf/ diventa /nf/).

Tempo fa ne ho rattoppata una molto usata che non era il caso di tenere così... ma per la nomenclatura ho fatto di testa mia.

Possibile spostamento a parte, ora mi sarebbe utile conoscere un po' meglio le regole, sia per il nome file sia per la categorizzazione. Puoi indicarmi una linea guida? Grazie --Erinaceus (talk) 16:21, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

@Erinaceus: Non mi pare una madrelingua italiana, mi sembra portoghese o tedesca. O forse è una bilingue. Comunque non si può sentire quel "Amintore Fanfani" :D Lo rinomino al nome giusto io su. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 16:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Grazie! mi par di capire che non ci sono problemi di categorizzazione, mentre la rinomina dovrei eventualmente richiederla...

Un unico piccolo dubbio: perché da .ogg a .oga? --Erinaceus (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Non lo so. Ho scritto espressamente .ogg e ha rinominato in .oga. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 17:00, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Azz... vabbè, allora te ne segnalo tre favolose, vedi tu dove metterle perché quella «buona» suppongo sia meglio tenerla al posto di questa... se non ti piace prova a sentire anche questa e questa... --Erinaceus (talk) 17:04, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Oltre soglia?

Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Più_Europa_con_Emma_Bonino.png --Vale93b (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2019 (UTC)