User talk:Herzemann

Willkommen in Commons!

Hallo Herzemann, willkommen hier! Eigentlich ziemlich ähnlich, wie in der Wikipedia hier, oder? :-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Zu deiner "danke"-Nachricht auf deiner Benutzerseite: freut mich ausgesprochen! :-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 21:10, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

von deiner Bentutzerseite: "hallo saibo, wenn ich dich brauche: auf welcher seite spreche ich dich an?"

Im Moment sehe ich es auch hier - weil ich deine Seiten noch auf meiner Beobachtungsliste habe. Aber generell sprichst du am besten mich hier in Commons an, wenn es um Bilder in Commons geht und in der Wikipedia, wenn es um Sachen dort geht. Dann geht zum Beispiel das Verlinken auf beispielsweise Hilfeseiten einfacher. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

also hier, auf DIESER seite? na, dann: ich habe die file:Gutenberg_St-Margaretha.jpg bei den commons hochgeladen, ich nehme an, dass du da noch die eine oder andere verbesserung vornehmen willst. und: jedesmal, wenn ich mich bei wikimedia anmelde, fliege ich bei wikipedia raus. mögen sich die beiden nicht? :-( viele grüße, --Herzemann 07:06, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Im Moment habe ich deine Benutzer(diskussionsseite) auf meiner Beobachtungsliste und sehe es daher wahrscheinlich. Es kann sein, dass ich irgendwann mal, wenn hier z.B. vielen Diskussionen mit anderen Leuten stattfinden deine Seiten von meiner Beobachtungsliste nehme, um etwas bessere Übersicht zu haben. Generell macht man es aber üblicherweise so, dass man, falls es um ein neues Thema geht, die andere Person auf ihrer Diskussionsseite anspricht (in diesem Falle auf meiner Diskussionsseite hier in Commons).

Zur Anmeldung: eigentlich sollest du automatisch bei Wikipedia angemeldet sein, wenn du dich bei Wikimedia Commons anmeldet und vice versa. Dazu muss aber im Anmeldeformular der Haken "Log me in globally" / "Global anmelden" angehakt sein. Am besten klickst du auch "Remember my login on this browser (for a maximum of 30 days)" / "Mit diesem Browser dauerhaft angemeldet bleiben (maximal 30 Tage)" an - sofern du den Computer alleine verwendest.

Zum Bild: von der Beschreibung und Kategorien: annähernd perfekt! Das Bild könnte man noch etwas begradigen, dazu fehlt mir aber die Zeit. Es wartet noch so vieles auf mich. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:58, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

kontakt: alles klar! - bild: auch klar! - anmeldung: mal klappts, meistens aber nicht. schau mer mal! ich wünsche dir einen schönen tag - und nicht zu viel arbeit! viele grüße, Herzemann 07:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

prüf doch mal nach: meine nachricht oben (07:41) ist bei "bearbeitung" noch vorhanden, aber erscheint nicht im klartext. seltsam! kann es sein, dass ich bei commons und bei wikipedia das gleiche passwort verwende? sind aber kinkerlitzen, ich komme soweit schon klar. nun schönen abend noch, Herzemann 19:28, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Deine Nachricht ist da - wahrscheinlich ein vorübergehendes Cache-Problem (entweder bei dir oder auf den Servern). Ja, normalerweise hast du das gleiche Passwort (und den gleichen Benutzernamen). Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 21:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

ich habe mir ein neues passwort geben lassen, das klappt jetzt weitgehend, aber ich musste mich z.b. auf dieser seite jetzt auch noch neu einloggen. und seltsam ist immer noch, dass meine signatur nicht als link erscheint! aber das soll jetzt nicht dein problem sein! ich komm schon damit zu recht. viele grüße, --Herzemann 21:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Lösche mal in deinen Einstellungen alles aus dem Feld "Signatur:" heraus und entferne, falls gesetzt, den Haken direkt unterhalb (Wikitext). Anschließend speichern. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:05, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

erledigt, ich fliege aber immer noch auf ihrendeiner seite raus. gute nacht und wieder mal danke, --Herzemann (talk) 23:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Na also - nun geht es. Zum Rausfliegen: dann weiß ich nicht weiter. Ich muss mich nur einmal in 30 Tagen anmelden. Melde dich in einer Woche nochmal bei mir, wenn es immer noch so ist. Vielleicht kannst du es mal mit einem anderen Browser testen? Z.B. in Firefox, falls du im Moment Internet Explorer benutzt oder vice versa? Wenn du dich dann in einem Browser einloggst, ist es aber normal, dass du im anderen rausfliegst. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

der flugschüler wird weiter beobachten, am browser liegts nicht. ich melde mich wieder, bis dahin viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 08:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

hallo saibo, der flugschüler hat die prüfung nicht bestanden, er stürzt nach wie vor pausenlos ab. das ist ärgerlich, weil er dann immer wieder neu aufsteigen muss, um eine datei hochzuladen. so hat es ziemlich gedauert, bis ich folgende dateien nach commons hochgeladen habe. schau sie dir bitte mal an, wenn du zeit hast. viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 07:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hallo lieber Flugschüler Herzemann, na dann werde ich doch mal sehen, dass wir den Flugschüler in ein sicheres Flugzeug bekommen.

Kannst du mir genauer sagen, was dich heruntergeworfen hat? Bzw weswegen es gedauert hat?

Zu den Bildern: Alles okay. Die OTRS-Nummer kommt zwar normalerweise (wenn sie von einem OTRS-Mitarbeiter hinzugefügt wird) in eine Vorlage mit buntem Kasten drumrum, aber so ist das auch okay. Bei der Lizenz musst du halt aufpassen, dass du jene auswählst, die auch in der Freigabeemail drin steht, die unter dieser OTRS-Nummer archiviert ist.

Du hast sogar passende Kategorien hinzugefügt - wie kann es denn besser sein? :-)

• File:Laodikeia-Theater.jpg Einzig diese hattest du wohl erst nach de.wikipedia hochgeladen - mittlerweile wurde sie hierher verschoben.

Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 20:40, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

hallo lieber fluglehrer saibo, das problem der abstürze besteht, seitdem ich auch bei commons gemeldet bin. vorher war ich bei wikipedia permanent eingeloggt. jetzt fliege ich immer mal auf einer seite raus, wenn ich bei commons, so wie jetzt, etwas bearbeite. ärgerlich ist nur, dass ich dann etwas schreibe und das dann nur unter der ip-nummer erscheint. jetzt gewöhne ich mich langsam daran, dass ich VORHER schon immer nachsehe, ob ich mich nicht extra anmelden muss (so wie jetzt). schön, wenn du mir helfen willst, aber lass dir keine grauen haare wachsen! wegen der OTRS-Nummer: da ist das formular nicht sehr benutzerfreundlich. ein flugschüler, weiß nicht genau, wo der richtige landeplatz für die eintragung der nummer ist. vielen dank für das verschieben des laodikeia-theaters und viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 06:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Ach, jetzt verstehe ich, was du mit Absturz meinst. Du meinst, dass du ausgeloggt wirst.

Ich gehe davon aus, dass du nur einen Browser verwendest. Oder verwendest du beispielsweise Firefox für die Wikipedia und Internet Explorer für Commons?

Versuche es mal so: Logge dich mal in Wikipedia aus. Gehe dann nach Commons und logge dich dort auch aus, wenn du eingeloggt bist. Dann logge dich wieder ein und aktiviere dabei beide Haken ("Remember my login on this browser (for a maximum of 30 days)" und "Log me in globally").

Das mit der OTRSnummer passt schon so, wie du es gemacht hast. Einzig die Lizenz stimmt nicht ganz (ich habe nachsehen lassen). In der Freigabe-Email von Klaus Walter ist cc-by-sa-3.0/de angegeben. Du hast (zumindest bei den letzten Bildern) hier überall das /de weggelassen. Das steht für die deutsche Version dieser Lizenz. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Wie ich gerade sehe, gibt es diese Lizenz gar nicht im Lizenzauswahlfeld beim Hochladen. Du musst sie daher, so wie du es mit der Nummer machst, manuell einfach neben die Nummer schreiben: {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}} ← diesen Baustein. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:51, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

hallo saibo, also ich bin jetzt überall ausgelogged(/geloggt?) und habe mich nun nur hier eingeloggt. das anmelden auf anderen seiten mache ich dann nach und nach, mal sehen, was passiert. wegen der lizenz: da habe ich nur den baustein eingesetzt und wusste eben nicht, dass das "/de" dazugehört. man lernt nicht aus. ich schreibe also in zukunft "OTRS#000000000 {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}", alles in eine zeile. richtig so? viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 05:34, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Eieiei, was schrieb ich denn da für einen Unfug (hab ich doch glatt das "de" vergessen, um was es mir ging)... Richtig ist: "OTRS#2010112210014485 {{Cc-by-sa-3.0-de}}" - So wie du es hier in Ansichtsmodus siehst (nicht im Bearbeitungsmodus). Natürlich nur für die Bilder, zu denen diese E-Mail gehört. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 19:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

jetzt stehe ich auf dem schlauch! wo müsste ich noch ein "-de" einfügen? du hast doch schon alles erledigt - oder? viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Nicht verwunderlich, dass du nicht verstehst, was ich meine, wenn ich erst das FlascheFalsche schreibe. ;-)

Ich meine nur, wenn du noch mehr Fotos von diesem Fotografen hast und diese hochladen willst. Bei den schon hochgeladenen ist es erledigt. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:35, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

alles klar, sag mal, es gibt doch wiki-medaillen für hilfreiche administratoren. wo könnte ich da meine stimme für dich abgeben? hättest es verdient, auch wenn du EINMAL nicht präzise warst (haha!) viele grüße, --Herzemann (talk) 05:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hallo Herzemann, :-) danke, das ehrt mich ja schon genug, wenn du es mir hier sagst. Es gibt hier sicher auch solche Medaillen-Vorlagen, aber ich weiß nicht wo. Ja, das kommt auch vor.

Warte mal noch ab, bevor du mir eine Medaille gibst, bis ich es geschafft habe, dass du nicht immer herausfliegst. ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:02, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

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Meiner Meinung nach ist dieses Kunstwerk noch vom Urheberrecht geschützt, da Otto Kobel 2002 starb und der Urheberrechtsschutz bis 70 Jahre nach Tod des Künstlers gilt. Das Foto fällt auch nicht unter die Panoramafreiheit, da es innerhalb eines Gebäudes aufgenommen wurde. Ich werde keinen Löschantrag stellen, aber kann sein, dass das jemand anderes macht. Nebenbei ist mir aufgefallen, dass in Category:Otto Kobel noch ein paar Bilder von anderen Fotografen sind, für die das gleiche gilt. --Bruno413 (talk) 09:28, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Da hast du wohl recht. Ich könnte über Wittmann wahrscheinlich eine Lizenz der Witwe bekommen, scheue aber die Arbeit. Schließlich habe ich genug Arbeit mit seinen Bildern. Wie steht es denn mit meiner Aktualisierung bei File:Relief in Aschthal.JPG ? Sonst will ich nicht weitermachen, weil ich doppelte Arbeit nicht mag.--Herzemann (talk) 09:51, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Bzgl. File:Relief in Aschthal.JPG siehe meinen Kommentar auf deiner Benutzerseite auf der deutschen Wikipedia. Was das Foto von Otto Kobel betrifft: Wenn sich die Möglichkeit bietet, ein ORTS-Ticket mit einer schriftlichen Genehmigung der Erbin hinzuzufügen, wäre das natürlich super. Dann hätte man ein Bild von Otto Kobel, das man jetzt schon legal verwenden könnte und nicht erst in 50 Jahren und das vor Löschanträgen gefeit wäre. Aber da das deine Arbeit ist, musst du das natürlich entscheiden. Bruno413 (talk) 12:37, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Weil du mir bisher so oft erfolgreich geholfen hast, will ich versuchen diese Lizenz zu bekommen. Ist es möglich, dass die Witwe auch alle anderen Bilder in Cumulo lizensiert. Herzemann (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Ob ein Ticket möglich ist, das für mehrere hochladende Benutzer gilt, weiß ich auch nicht, ich war in die Erstellung eines ORTS-Tickets bisher noch gar nicht involviert. Ansprechpartner sind in meta:Volunteer Response Team/Personnel/de aufgelistet. --Bruno413 (talk) 04:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Ich werde versuchen, zunächst einen Kontakt zu Kobels Erben zu bekommen. Dann schau mer mal. Danke, --Herzemann (talk) 06:40, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

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