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OTRS review request

Hey, I was wondering if someone could review a ticket I handled and some discussion that came from it. OTRS ticket 2009072010059675 is the ticket and en:User_talk:Moni3#Re.3B_Map_error is the user talk discussion. Thanks! -Andrew c (talk) 15:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you have the right ticket number? I am getting a ticket error message saying the ticket does not exist. Tiptoety talk 16:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Ticket # was fine. But I didn't use the template properly. I thought you only needed either the # or ID, not both. I left out the ID, but that's been fixed now. Stupid template :P -Andrew c (talk) 17:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyone get a chance to review this? -Andrew c (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Andrew. A permission "to you for your article" is not a clear release under the terms of any license, so it is correct to request a more specific licensing statement. --V.Riullop (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the reply. -Andrew c (talk) 16:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Images of Paintings by Georges Emile Lebacq

There is currently a deletion discussion taking place for a large number of images of paintings by artist Georges Emile Lebacq (See: Commons:Deletion requests/Paintings of artist Georges Emile Lebacq). The deletion discussion is on hold pending OTRS verification as the user who uploaded the images claims to be a relative of the artist and the beneficiary of the copyrights to the paintings. This is just a friendly notice that permission should be coming through permissions-fr.

Français : Si il y a quelqu’un disponible qui parle anglais et français, leur aide serait beaucoup apprécier car la permission sera probablement en français mais la discussion est en anglais.

--Labattblueboy (talk) 22:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I finally called the Faroean post office and it was ok! Thanks for help!/Malin. Malin AhKing (talk) 11:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


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Dear OTRS agents,

I'm hoping someone would be willing to go into the OTRS system, locate the email request I sent and verify the permissions for a photo I have uploaded:

and that I've used an appropriate license given the permission granted me by the heir to the photo.


Etrangere (talk) 19:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

  • ✓ Done Stifle (talk) 09:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Stifle -

Unfortunately I'm not seeing the notice of OTRS acceptance for the image on it's page. Am I missing something?

Thanks for looking into it! Etrangere (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

You removed it with one of your edits. Please do not edit older revisions. --Martin H. (talk) 00:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Case closed for you Martin. Remember? Message was addressed to Stifle (OTRS) Etrangere (talk) 05:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OTRS Pending

I've sent an e-mail to OTRS at 11/08 and after some bot notifications in my talk page, I think it was not received, so I'm sending it again now.

Thanks, Helder 17:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I have no record of anything sent 11/08 (sorry). I did find something back in April 09 related to Category:GeoGebra, but it appears those images have OTRS tickets attached to them already, and weren't part of the images mentioned in the warnings on your talk page. Anyway, I also see something you sent 21 days ago. But it was sent, in English, to the Portuguese e-mail address. I've merged your latest e-mail with the one from 21 days ago, and moved it to the general Commons queue. Perhaps that may help explain part of the delay in reply, as we don't have many Portuguese language volunteers. For the time being, please accept out apologies, and please be patient while the agents work through the backlog and reach your ticket. Thanks.-Andrew c (talk) 21:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I didn't notice I've sent the mail in English to the Portuguese volunteers I'm sorry for that... (Actually, my second try was also to permissions-commons-pt@... =S) Anyway, the new images are those of the Category:GeoGebra icons. Now I'm sending it to permissions-commons@... Helder 22:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
No need to send again. That will just add confusion. I've already moved the e-mail out out -pt, so no worries there. All we have to do now is "wait" for an agent, which hopefully won't be long. Thanks. -Andrew c (talk) 22:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry... disconsider my 3rd e-mail then... And thank you for your help!
By the way, isn't possible to make the bot send only one edit with all the images listed at once, instead of 50 individual edits? (this is bad for email notifications...) Helder 23:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
You'll have to put that question to User:Hersfold, and I suspect the answer will be negative. Stifle (talk) 13:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


Has an OTRS template but the ticket number xxxxxx and the license tag "ineligible for copyright", which is curious for a BLP portrait. Can someone please check whether there was an OTRS for this or, if not, delete the picture? Thanks. Hekerui (talk) 19:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

OTRS tag was added by the uploader. I've removed the tag, and added a NPD tag (speedy deletable in 7 days if no permission is sent). Default speedy message left on user talk. We may want to keep an eye on it to see if the speedy tag is removed or not. We should consider this resolved when either the permission is sent in or, more likely, when the image is deleted. BTW, I also searched OTRS and found nothing from with in the upload period related to "GULZAR".-Andrew c (talk) 21:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. It's a copyvio of, so it could even be treated as such, right? Hekerui (talk) 21:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps the uploader meant to add an OTRS-pending template? I was assuming good faith in that the uploader had added an OTRS template to the image based on some sort of permission received, even if it was the wrong template. Therefore, I was willing to wait the 7 days to see if we get a response. If an another admin wants to assume bad faith, or thinks it's important to protect the copyright, then feel free to delete now. I wouldn't mind. If not, we'll just wait and see what happens. Thanks for your input. -Andrew c (talk) 23:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


hi, i'm just wondering if an OTRS volunteer could update the OTRS pending tag for File:Carlos_H_Reyes.jpg. The copyright holder emailed directly to the permissions email address with cc to me, so IMHO this should be straightforward. i uploaded the file several days ago. Thanks in advance. Boud (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I see that we received the e-mail, but it hasn't been handled by an agent yet. This is because there is currently a 10 day backlog. Please understand that it would not be fair to the 60 e-mails in front of you if we skipped them and answered you first. So please be patient, and an agent will get to your ticket in due time. Please accept our apologizes for the wait. Thanks.-Andrew c (talk) 23:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, I noted the image is from flickr. For Flickr images, if you can write the uploader, and kindly request that they simply change the license from (c) All rights reserved, to either CC-BY or CC-SA-BY (one of the 2 free licenses flickr offers that is compatible with the Commons), then the much faster, flickr review process can handle the permission. In fact, you don't have to upload images that are licensed correctly on flickr, because we have at least 2 bots that can upload, and verify permissions, automatically. Anyway, just throwing that out there. -Andrew c (talk) 23:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the rapid feedback - no problem about waiting in the queue. i know that we're all volunteers here. As for flickr licensing, as long as this can be done for individual photos, probably the photo author would be happy to do that for future individual photos, but i think that generically, she would prefer CC-BY-SA-NC, which is why the flickr mechanism needs to be possible for individual photos. Anyway, i'll discuss it with her if i think another photo would be useful for Commons. Thanks for the idea. Boud (talk) 23:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Flickr image licenses can be changed either individually or prospectively for all uploads. As Andrew c says, it's infinitely better if you just get the copyright holder to amend the license on Flickr. Stifle (talk) 13:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

LUBILOSA and Green Muscle logos

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I got a note from User:ChriKo about File:Logo Green Muscle small.gif and File:Logo Lubilosa.gif. An email was sent to permissions-commons. --Martin H. (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

per OTRS ticket 2009072010052298, items restored. -Andrew c (talk) 23:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Category:OTRS pending German language agent needed

Category:OTRS pending has a number of really old OTRS received templated images. I started going through the oldest ones, and noticed they were all in German. I deleted one that didn't have any replies since last December, but the next one I checked had some notes and activity in June (in German). So I was wondering if there are any OTRS agent who are also Commons admins who understand German enough to go through the oldest categories in Category:OTRS pending, and start deleting images that still don't have adequate permission, and that we've given sufficient time for correspondence. Thanks! -Andrew c (talk) 23:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Different Flickr Name, same person

My Flickr name is Unionhawk88 due to the fact that Unionhawk was taken (by me; account created, then deleted). Is there any way for me to be able to use my Flickr photos without making an e-mail request every time? Or can I just do this anyway?--Unionhawk (talk) 01:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

You can license the photos on flickr that you want to upload here with one of the creative commons licenses that is compatible with the Commons (CC-BY and CC-BY-SA). That way, you won't need any form of verification. Alternatively, you could post something on your flickr account saying your Commons username. There are probably some other ways to confirm your identity, but I mention these as they are the easiest. -Andrew c (talk) 01:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I already put my Flickr name (URL, I guess, actually) on my Commons User page, but I never thought about doing it in reverse as well. I'm going to go ahead and do that. It's all already licensed under CC-BY-SA (I changed it today from CC-BY-NC-SA).--Unionhawk (talk) 01:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Excellent, you should have no problem re-uploading images from your flickr now that you have the pointer to your Commons account and the licenses. There should be no need to send us e-mails for every image anymore. If you encounter any problems, feel free to contact me personally. Also, did you know that there are at least 2 bots available that can automatically upload freely licensed images from flickr? Those tools may be of use to you if you are planning on uploading multiple images from your flickr. See Commons:Flickr_images#Tools. Thanks. -Andrew c (talk) 13:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Maschinentransformator Transmission 14.jpg

Yes check.svg Resolvedmerged tickets; ticket is now in permissions-commons-de. —Pill (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, confirmation was conveyed on 27.7.2009 to "" per email. Subject: WG: Bildanfrage, Siemens-Pressebild Nutzung auf Wikipedia (fwd). Maybe this email address is a black hole? I forward the email now

To: "" <>,
Cc: "" <>

with the same subject. --Wdwd (talk) 06:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

permissions-commons-de is not a black hole, but is currently backlogged by 47 days. If the email in permissions-commons is in German it will just have been forwarded to permissions-commons-de. So if you or anyone is able to process German permissions, please volunteer! Stifle (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rongorongo B-v Aruku-Kurenga.jpg

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Can someone check the ticket on this image, and close the DR accordingly? Thanks. –Tryphon 10:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Checking... Stifle (talk) 13:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done Stifle (talk) 13:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. –Tryphon 15:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Problems with my first two OTRS files

Hi, I've uploaded two files on July 19th:

German language Otrs mails were sent on the same day (around 14:00 UTC) to but seem to be missing. Anyhow, I was informed, that the files are scheduled for deletion. Asking the author just to resent these mails doesn't look promising as long as I do not know, what went wrong. Mail content can be looked up at User_talk:Dr._Shaggeman where I left a copy yesterday but haven't received any answer yet. Rgds --Boobarkee (talk) 16:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Boobarkee, die Mails sind eingegangen (Ticket 2009071910014582), wir sind aber derzeit etwas im Rückstand mit der Bearbeitung. Ich habe die Bilder nun einmal mit einem entsprechenden Baustein gekennzeichet, was noch einmal 30 Tage Aufschub bis zur Löschung gibt -- das sollte reichen. (Nicht wundern, dass in den eingefügten Bausteinen von einer unzureichenden Freigabe die Rede ist, das liegt nur an der Vorlage - ich habe mir die Mails nicht durchgelesen). Wenn du noch Fragen hast oder es weitere Probleme geben sollte, kannst du dich gerne an mich wenden. —Pill (talk) 23:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Danke, Pill! --Boobarkee (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Resent permissions after deltion notice: Orange blue cord.png, Yellow natural.png, Yellow orange cord.png

Ticket#2009072710057708 I have received three messages about some of the images that I uploaded. I have permission to use these images and I sent you this permission.

This is in reference to images under category of Capoeira and ABADÁ-Capoeira: Orange blue cord.png, Yellow natural.png, Yellow orange cord.png

Permission to use these three images was sent along with permission to use 12 other images. I think the problem is that when I uploaded the images, I tried to make the titles more specific by adding the word "cord" in line with wikimedia title requirements.

the image titles in the permissions I sent and have just resent appear as: "natura_cord,""yellow_natural,""yellow," "yellow_orange_cord," "orange_cord," "orange_blue,""blue_cord," "blue_green," "green_cord," "green_purple," "purple_cord," "purple_brown," "brown," "brown_red," "red_cord"

If necessary I can just re-upload the image under the specific title listed in the permission.EDS4 (talk) 05:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  • I think I've fixed these. Let me know if there's anything outstanding. Stifle (talk) 08:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


I have used the image of Emma Snowsill by Damon D'Amato of North Hollywood California (image url here: in a story for about Snowsill's shoulder injury and her dropping out from the 2009 ITU World Championship Series finale. Please contact me if this is a problem at [redacted]. Thank you.

thanks for notifying. But could you post the URL for the article, in case it's available online. --Túrelio (talk) 14:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It's [1]. I have sent an email to the person who supplied the OTRS permission to inform him, in case he wishes to follow up. Stifle (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Found it already and put the pub-template[2] on the image. --Túrelio (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Did you mention in your e-mail that part of the license is noting its CC-BY-SA? It appears this publisher has not followed the terms of the free license. -Andrew c (talk) 17:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I included something similar. Stifle (talk) 09:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

image ticket#2008100910046081

I would like to use this image in one of the educational modules produced by this non-profit group (center for ocean science education excellence). It will go in an module about bacteria and be posted on the web, and will be appropriately cited. the website it will be located at is


Have you seen COM:REUSE? You don't need specific permission from us or the uploader, as long as you follow the terms of the image's license. All images on the Commons are licensed freely, but there dozens of different licenses that are all different. In this case, if you are talking about File:FPbeachTsien.jpg, one of the licensing options is the Creative Commons Attributions Share alike license, and in short you are free to share and make derivative works of the file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you distribute it only under a license identical to this one. Keep in mind, though, that we cannot offer you legal advice, and it is up to you and/or your lawyers to determine whether your proposed use is legal. Thanks. -Andrew c (talk) 21:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Muriel Duckworth.jpg

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Can someone please check the OTRS on whether I applied the correct license? The statement on the original upload indicates GFDL, but the uploader also added Cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0. I only added GFDL for the Commons upload so far. Thanks! Hekerui (talk) 21:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

In her (forwarded) email, Ms. Munson only mentions (and agrees to) GFDL. —Pill (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


I have written a draft FAQ for this noticeboard. Please feel free to improve and/or discuss it. Stifle (talk) 11:54, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Daylon-Claasen Ajax1nl 310x375.jpg

What images are covered by this ticket? Can I restore other uploads by this user? Of course I will announce this to him per email as I already had contact with them using --Martin H. (talk) 15:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

As to which images are covered, he refers to "" ("I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of WORK []."). I'm no fan of that sort of permission statements, however. In case of multiple uploads by the user, it would probably be best to ask for permission again and explicitely refer to the images in question. —Pill (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
My request on their contact formular was already answered, but in an unprofessional way and tone I not liked. Therefore I stopped the email communication and waited for OTRS. The images are all with same EXIF and likely ok. I will continue email and will restore images on request, future OTRS involvement is not needed. --Martin H. (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj (Cropped).png

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The permission text on the image discription is not sufficient. --Martin H. (talk) 15:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

The one in otrs:2009060210012321 is ("I agree to publish that work under the free license GFDL and CC-BY-SA."). —Pill (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! --Martin H. (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:CNG (CNG coins)

We need some assistance from someone with access to OTRS ticket no 450621, regarding the scope of permission to publish photos of coins from the web site of CNG using template {{CNG}}. There are two deletion requests of photos from CNG which must be resolved:

Could some OTRS volunteer examine the ticket and give us some guidance? Sv1xv (talk) 10:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll have a look at OTRS:450621. Stifle (talk) 18:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Ticket check please

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Can someone check a given ticket please? I've come across four images which seem rather unusual to have the same ticket associated with them:

I seem to have a memory in the past of seeing the images being deleted for some reasob and I'm deeply suspicious about their reappearance. Can someone check ticket # 1291135 to see just what it's supposed to cover? Tabercil (talk) 02:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

None of the images listed above were included in the ticket that is provided, and as you can see here the OTRS permission template was not added by an OTRS volunteer. For this reason, I have removed the bogus permission template. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Tiptoety talk 03:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


Category:No OTRS permission is growing (300+). --Eusebius (talk) 07:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

ticket #2006050910011701 - woodstock photo (Derek Remond?)

This image shows that it has been verified on the OTRS system- but I'm not sure if that means it falls under the free use guidelines or what? I am hoping to use it for a multimedia piece (commercial in nature).

can someone help with this?

thanks, Brent Johnson

Have you seen COM:REUSE. The important part of the image page, say for example File:Woodstock redmond cocker.JPG, is not the OTRS ticket number, but the licenses listed below. If you follow the terms of one of those free licenses, then you are welcome to re-use/modify the images. All images on the Commons are "freely" licensed. Often this means you need to attribute the author/photographer and re-license the work with the same free license. Unfortunately, we cannot give legal advice, so it is up to you and/or your attorneys to determine whether a particular intended use is lawful. Good luck. (and make sure to read COM:REUSE). -Andrew c (talk) 21:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


I have secured CC-BY-SA permission for File:Frank LaGrotta photo.jpg, File:Terry Madonna speaking.jpg and File:Terry Madonna headshot.jpg. I sent two emails to permissions-commons with the release at 2:45 Eastern time. Could someone please log these? Thank you.--Blargh29 (talk) 18:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Terry Madonna speaking.jpg and File:Terry Madonna headshot.jpg have been ✓ Done. Tiptoety talk 18:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Can someone get the ticket for File:Frank LaGrotta photo.jpg? I sent that email at the same time.--Blargh29 (talk) 00:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
There's a queue in place for permission emails, currently there are 275 emails waiting in permissions-commons. It would be unfair that people can skip the queue by posting here, unless the image is about to be deleted. The email will be answered when it reaches the front of the queue. Stifle (talk) 08:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Cristian berrios.jpg

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Description page and source claim Creative Commons NC license, is the email permission free for every purpose? --Martin H. (talk) 14:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

NC licenses and anything else restricting commercial use aren't accepted on Commons. Stifle (talk) 09:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I confirm that the image is licensed in the way that the OTRS ticket requests: {{Attribution}}. --J.smith (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I removed the "non-commercial" comment and marked this request as resolved. --Martin H. (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Alexander Dubček - portrét.jpg

Hi have much doubt in whether this ticket is ok. I already wrote this on the images talkpage. The source for this image is, the uploader claims the photgraph come from the "personal archive" of the author of that page, but on this page it only says "Foto:" - which supports my view that this photograph is simply widely spread over the internet and grabed from a random website. Same for File:Dubček (foto).jpg, given the fact that this image appears also in exactly this low resolution after a short search in Google images (page 3) without any relation to the named author makes the ticket doubtful. I ask for a second view on this tickets. Regards, --Martin H. (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I handled the ticket originally and it appeared OK to me, but I will yield to another OTRS agent's opinion. Especially if they speak Czech. Stifle (talk) 21:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
  • The image is ✓OK. The permission was correctly applied. NonvocalScream (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the review and ✓ Done. I still think it is a permission from the wrong source and will have an eye on it, but at the moment it is satisfying. --Martin H. (talk) 13:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it but....

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Somehow I doubt that someone has submitted an OTRS email for File:Lastfm.png but before I tagged it for speedy copyvio I thought I would check here. --Admrboltz (talk) 20:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Quite right, no OTRS-email for that file :-). I just speedy-deleted it. m:Mark W (Mwpnl) ¦ talk 20:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a million. --Admrboltz (talk) 20:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


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Which one of the listed licenses is approved in the OTRS? or 3.0? Hekerui (talk) 22:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

3.0, but the sender of the email is also the uploader. —Pill (talk) 22:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
... so both licenses should be fine. —Pill (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Tapio Sayppo 1975.jpg

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Picture File:Tapio Sayppo 1975.jpg needs some checking, could someone check, thanks--Motopark (talk) 06:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

no free license specified (no response so far to our email from 09/02/2009), but as far as i know images tagged with {otrs received} should be given 30 days before deletion. —Pill (talk) 13:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Michael Lobo.jpg

A mail has been sent to the OTRS server having subject (Permission for Can a volunteer please check it. Entire discussion can alos be found at File talk:Michael Lobo.jpg. Thanks, Kensplanet (talk) 14:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you seen the FAQ? You don't need to tell us that you sent in a ticket, and because of backlog, it isn't possible to "bump" your e-mail in front of the others. We recommend waiting at least 14 days since you sent your ticket before asking about it here. Looks like you sent yours in 6 hours ago. Please accept out apologies for the wait, and please be patient while we work through the tickets that came in before yours. Is there anything else we could help you with?-Andrew c (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Image reuse

As a student, I'd like to use a picture here on wikimedia on one of my reports. it is [3]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 04:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see COM:REUSE for instructions on how to reuse our images. --Admrboltz (talk) 11:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Russell MacLellan.jpg

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Hi, the OTRS was accepted and added but no author or date were added from the ticket in the original Wikipedia upload. Can someone add the copyright holder? Thanks. Hekerui (talk) 13:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. Have a great day. --Admrboltz (talk) 13:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Hekerui (talk) 13:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


This one has been sitting in the queue for almost a month - any idea as to progress? (I sent a mail at the end of last month, and I believe that the copyright holder may have sent his own mail as well but I'm not too sure on that). Ron2K (talk) 18:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I see the e-mail you sent on 8/28, and, surprisingly enough, it appears one of our agents replied to you also on 8/28 (within 5 hours of receiving your e-mail)! Did you received that e-mail? It, summary, basically stated that we need a clear statement that the copyright holder is releasing the image under a free license. If the copyright holder e-mailed us already, I was not able to locate that e-mail based on searching for the file name, or the terms "King Shaka" or To fully process this ticket, we just need to have a declaration of consent, from the copyright holder, which states a specific release by the terms of one of the acceptable free licenses. Hope this helps.-Andrew c (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Aha - seems that mail got caught by my spam filter. I'll make sure that your concerns are sorted out. Ron2K (talk) 19:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Check on OTRS 1625126

There is a 2008 image here, File:PL-escalier2.JPG, of artwork by living artist, Pierre Laffillé, marked with OTRS #1625126. What does that cover? Just the one image? Several others by the same artist have been uploaded since that time - see Category:Pierre Laffillé and fr:Pierre Laffillé#Galerie. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 16:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The ticket covers the following:
--Admrboltz (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Beatrice Müller im Nationalratssaal.jpg

The above has an OTRS reference. The source URL was dead so I updated it. There I found the name of the photographer as well (added). Please check if the OTRS reference still applies. -- User:Docu at 11:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Appears to be a French language ticket. Any takers? -Andrew c (talk) 13:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
It's good, gives an {{attribution}} license for images. Stifle (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

checking on usage of images


I am a photo researcher and I just wanted to confirm that the two images here are free for editorial use.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)

In the future, you can ask questions like this on COM:VP, but I believe since it is a work of the U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, it should fall under {{PD-USGov}} (public domain). Killiondude (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I think it's also important to point out that we are not lawers and cannot offer legal advice. Mostly we are educated amateurs. Your best bet would be to consult the copyright specialist at whatever publication you work for.
However, what Killiondude said is largely true. If the photo was taken by an employee of the US government in the regular course of their duties then the photo will be in the public domain. To be sure you will need to verify that is the case - it also might have been taken by a third party and if that is the case then the copyright is likley owned by the photographer. --J.smith (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz.jpg

Screenshot. The file has an OTRS ticket, that came from enwp; the image page there has not been deleted, see en:File:Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz.jpg. The reasons for keeping this image have liitle to do with its copyright status. I doubt the license is valid. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The release appears to be legitimate. J.smith (talk) 19:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I concur. Stifle (talk) 13:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Sky_Claudette_Soto.jpg is copyrighted and uploaded by the person who the article is about.

It seams doubtful that there is actually permission to use this photo.

This was uploaded through the photo submission process. Everything appears in order. I'm not sure what your concern is. -Andrew c (talk) 20:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually reading the ticket I'm less than happy with it. I'll drop Howcheng, who handled the ticket, a line to see what he thinks. Stifle (talk) 13:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Simple question - which link is needed?

This is a simple question from a beginner. Regarding the 'Declaration of consent for all enquiries', what link needs to be entered? Is it the link to the file on Commons that I've already uploaded or a link to where the owner has the image hosted (e.g. his personal website)? Also, should the owner send the consent back to me and I forward it to Wikimedia or does the owner send the email straight to Wikimedia? mahanga (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Ideally, the link is to the file on Commons, where the file description page already contains a link to where the image is previously hosted. The owner should send the email straight to, copying you, although we do accept forwards. Stifle (talk) 13:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Buckpool Main Street.jpg

OTRS ticket on this was sent in by the owners of the website, who report that it's lifted off their site without permission. Apparent obvious copyvio here.

I changed the ticket from info-en to Commons queue, just wanted to poke it out there... Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done, image deleted. -Andrew c (talk) 13:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

File approval and license for OTRS ticket #2009092510046274

Hello Nillerdk

In my mail to the ANTARES collaboration organisation I asked for approval to use the image "Antares Neutrinoteleskop.jpg", which was now granted and additionally another image you may find here. I asked to send the feedback directly to Apparently this worked somehow, but I have no information whether the second file mentioned is also approved to be used under the same license as I was not copied in the feedback mail. May I ask you to give me some more details regarding this issue, so that I can upload the additional image? Thanks a lot for your cooperation and best regards. --Jmarino (talk) 08:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

de:Datei:Antares_Neutrinoteleskop.jpg is the only file mentioned in this ticket. Sorry. -Andrew c (talk) 14:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I have sent another request to the copyright holder about this other file. I will keep you informed this time. Nillerdk (talk) 08:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done Mr. Montanet is kind and fast - he has already accepted the license terms of this photo as well. Now available here: File:Antar318.jpeg. Nillerdk (talk) 09:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


Yes check.svg Resolved

Hi. I was wondering if anyone can confirm the ticket for me. The ticket is this and the image is this. I believe the user in question has wrongfully claimed that there is an OTRS ticket when there in fact is none. A Google search turned up this much older image with that ticket number. Thanks. Elizabeth Bathory (talk) 18:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

You're correct. The OTRS ticket is for the older image, not the Jennifer Garner image. I'll delete the Jennifer Garner image, because it is "All rights reserved" on Flickr. Thanks for bringing this up. Killiondude (talk) 18:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, if you have a minute again, the same guy reuploaded the image with the same old ticket. Can only assume that it's a troll. Elizabeth Bathory (talk) 20:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Hm. I've deleted it again, and left them another warning. I've been trying to search to see if any permission came into OTRS for the Jennifer Garner image, and nothing has turned up so far. Killiondude (talk) 21:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as they did it again, I issued them a three day block and re-deleted the image. Tiptoety talk 23:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Massimiliano Marsili.jpg

What does the ticket cover, this one image? Or all other uploads by the user? feydey (talk) 11:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Not a permissions ticket, per se. I do not have access to the queue that e-mail was sent to. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say it's in info-it. So are there any Italian speakers who could check this one out? -Andrew c (talk) 14:25, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I can't open it either; recommend pinging an Italian-speaker. Stifle (talk) 09:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Pictures Never Verified

Why hadn't any OTRS users verified the two images I was able to use for permission when they were uploaded? I satisfied all requirements, but whoever was assigned to verify the emails never did. I demand the images to be recovered and have access to OTRS and find the emails myself. AZ'sReincarnation (talk) 20:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Ticket# 2009071910016437 is what this is about. It appears that you received a reply from the OTRS agent but never responded to their question. Please make sure to check your spam box just in case it got caught there. Once you have found the email please send a reply and the image may be restored. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 21:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Previous noticeboard discussion: Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard/Archive 3#Need Two Images to be Ticketed with Sent Emails.-Andrew c (talk) 23:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I never received a reply. Please send it again. AZ'sReincarnation (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Resent. Stifle (talk) 09:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Picture2casiraghitrio.png Is it possible to obtain permission from the source for this file? --Chewsteraghi (talk) 23:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is possible. Is it likely? Maybe, maybe not. That appears to be a TV screenshot. You are welcome to contact the network and ask if they will release it. It also appears that the screenshot was taken and uploaded to a non-network website. It would be useless contacting that website, because they don't own the original copyright to the broadcast. We'd need to contact the network directly. Now, the OTRS volunteers do not perform these requests ourselves. However, you are welcome to attempt to contact them, and ask for a release. See en:Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Good luck. -Andrew c (talk) 01:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
As an aside, I deleted the image above and another from the same uploader. If you don't already have OTRS permission coming, you shouldn't upload. Wknight94 talk 01:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Zarskaya tragedy 1.jpg

This image has two significant problems. First, the claim that Georgian forces have committed massacre of civilians on that image has no source or reference. Second, the link provided for the image as the source is There is no such image on that web site, how did the copyright clearance was successful for this image? There is no author and no other sources. Plus, it very much resembles the images from the Ingush massacre by Ossetians in 1992. Iberieli (talk) 04:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The release is valid for the website, but I can't say whether the source is valid. As for the claim having no source, this isn't enwiki, but you can edit it out if you don't agree with it. Stifle (talk) 09:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

A little help?

Hi. I'm dealing with Category:No OTRS permission (I might be the only one, or almost the only one to do so) and there are a few files for which I have difficulties deciding whether they would need a ticket or not (i.e. some of them could be ineligible to copyright, for instance). I'd be grateful if some other OTRS/admin could have a look at them and either delete them or update the image pages. Here's the list (to be updated):

Thanks in advance! --Eusebius (talk) 07:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I fixed the first one. The next 4 seem to be attributed to Not sure if that is software or how that is copyrighted. My guess would be it's not free, but I don't know for sure (looking at the users other uploads, there appears to be other copyvios as well. Perhaps a Japanese speaker could help). Fcs revised.JPG claims to be a work of the Japanese government or possibly military, but it isn't clear to me that those sorts of work are in the PD. The claim that the image is ineligible for copyright is false. Grenseboerbevis C-B-2.jpg is clearly not a "self" image, and would depend on the claimed 1940 copyright date. Perhaps a German or Norwegian speaker could help, or someone familiar with copyright laws in those countries. The last two, I added sourced, but I'm not sure of the copyright status. I'd assume, based on the webpage, that they are copyrighted, but then again the original file may be GFDL or even PD (File:Tux-G2.png). Maybe a Spanish speaker could help. Or someone more familiar with GNU. I thought I'd be able to knock those out, but based on my lack of language skills, I didn't do that much good. I'd say they should all probably be deleted, except the first one that I fixed. -Andrew c (talk) 14:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks anyway. You thought they would all be easy? I've removed hundreds of pictures from this category, before leaving these few ones... I'm saving the fun part for you guys :-) --Eusebius (talk) 19:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Regarding File:Grenseboerbevis C-B-2.jpg: This is document is probably from 1940, the year Norway was occupied by Germany. So it is not public domain due to age (it would be PD due to age from beginning of 2011). It think it is PD anyway because it does not meet threshold of originality. I can't imagine who would be able to issue a permission for this document, so OTRS seems pretty irrellevant. I change to PD-ineligible. Nillerdk (talk) 09:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it is PD also because it is the work of some government ? --Eusebius (talk) 10:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I disagree with PD-ineligible. Surely the content of the text is not trivial, and could qualify for copyright on it's own right? Logos, common phrases, one or to words are generally not eligible for copyright, but not an original sentence or paragraph (which this clearly is).-Andrew c (talk) 22:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Fine with me, then open a deletion request which is the way we discuss such questions. OTRS is not relevant for this discussion. Nillerdk (talk) 11:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Herr Seemann in jungen Jahren.JPG

Did you forget this picture? -- 15:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

The template was added by Brackenheim (talk · contribs) whom is not an OTRS agent. I looked in the system and am unable to locate a corresponding ticket. As such, I removed the OTRS permission template. Tiptoety talk 16:34, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I added the template because I thought, the picture was forgotten and in the hope that somebody would add the missing information. If that was a mistake, I'm really sorry and I hope, this won't cause any trouble! I sent the declaration of content to on 25. Sepember 2009 at 19:25. --Brackenheim (talk) 17:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
✓OK Ticket found and added to the images (jpg/tiff). Raymond 18:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much! --Brackenheim (talk) 18:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Hm, maybe I am missing something here but the ticket does not seem sufficient enough to confirm permission for this file. I am a non German speaker, but the one-liner included in the email does not seem close to enough. Tiptoety talk 19:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done You forgot to check the attachment. There you will find a crystal clear permission. Nillerdk (talk) 06:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Samar14.JPG

Can someone have a look at the OTRS ticket on this image? Is it valid? I'd like to close this old DR, but I'm unsure since the OTRS volunteer who tagged the image didn't close the DR himself. –Tryphon 08:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I am unhappy with the permission; I'll contact MBisanz and see if he will revisit it. Stifle (talk) 10:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for following up on this. –Tryphon 12:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


I notice the uploader placed an OTRS ticket to this image here. I was just wondering if the permission applies to this photo. Normally someone on OTRS or an Admin would attach an OTRS ticket. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done A good observation, thank you for the request. I have just read the ticket text. The copyright holder David W. Carmichael releases all photos from under GFDL and he has been informed what this means. The OTRS agent told the uploader to apply the OTRS-template himself. So it is all ok. Nillerdk (talk) 09:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • OK. Thanks. I'll type in the rename request for this photo then. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Why on earth is a rename needed? Nillerdk (talk) 06:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Don't know why. But its a minor thing here. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Angelina Jolie photo

Hello, Tro whom it may concern: Can I use this image? Thank you

Did you read question #2 on the FAQ (Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard/FAQ)? You can use that image if you respect the personality rights of the individual, and if you follow the terms of the license. We cannot help you determine whether or not your intended use if legal or not. You will need to consult with your attorney for that. Good luck. -Andrew c (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Village d'Aïté, Nord de Kayes.jpg

Can someone verify the permission here? I checked the file history and the entry for the OTRS ticket looks suspicious. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it checks out OK. Stifle (talk) 08:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
  • OK. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:52, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Request for permission to use image

Asking permission to use the image from Wikimedia Commons. File: Mary and Jesus with ticket number: (OTRS) #2009020910028069 for poster calendar 2010. You may reach me at Thanks.

Did you read the FAQ? We can't give you permission here to use images; (almost) all images on this site are free for anyone to use though. Stifle (talk) 11:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Deleted images

Hello, my name is Kravchenko Anton I hereby assert that I represent INTENIUM GmbH as owner of the exclusive copyright of Intenium.jpg and Alamandi.png, which were removed from wiki commons server ( I agree to publish that work under the free license Free Art License v1.2, 1.3]. I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product, and to modify it according to their needs, as long as they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. 06/10/2009 Kravchenko Anton, Regional manager Russia and CIS INTENIUM GmbH Kravchenko Anton (talk) 13:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear Kravchenko Anton. Please send the same text to from your company e-mail account. This assures a higher lever of security that the statement is actually from you. Thank you! Nillerdk (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Actually I did it on 06/10/2009 alredy (this is copy of sent message). I will resend it now for assurance . Kravchenko Anton (talk) 08:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Did you read the /FAQ? There is a queue of (currently) 452 emails, including 215 in English. It can take up to two weeks for emails like this to be processed, so please be patient. There is a risk, if you send it again, that the email will actually end up at the back of the queue and be processed more slowly. Stifle (talk) 08:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Kravchenko Anton, why didn't you say immediately? Anyway, I have found them both and I am now working on it. Nillerdk (talk) 09:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello everyone, patient should be not for my part only, right? On 06/10/2009 I sent message you see above. One week elapsed - I didn't received enything. So I asked guy, who deleted images, about what is next. He adviced me to leave message on this page. So I did it. I understand how much people bother you every day, but it wouldn't take long time to write back (with like noreply message) "message/request in process", right? Thanks & Best Regards Kravchenko Anton (talk) 10:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

We try to do our best. Please remember that we are unpaid volunteers. I'm taking care of your case now. It might take a couple of days more. Best regards, Nillerdk (talk) 11:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Hmm... if your images were tagged with template:OTRS pending, they shouldn't have been deleted so soon. Seems like that may have been part of the issue. Last time I checked, the backlog was 17 days (which is over 2 weeks). Clearly, that is unacceptable on our part, but it is the best we can do with the number of volunteers we have. Anyway, thanks for bringing this to our attention. Sounds like someone is already handling your case. Sorry your images got deleted prematurely. -Andrew c (talk) 14:03, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Good morning (as it's in Russia). I would like to thank everyone who helped to solve this case and gave the opportunity to discover a bit wiki universe ;) Kravchenko Anton (talk) 05:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

upload request / OTRS permission - E-Mail received (German)


Ich habe soeben folgende Nachricht bekommen und weiß nicht, ob ich sie selbst beantworten soll (wenn ja, frage ich an, ob der u.g. Entwurf so akzeptabel ist):

Hallo Mattes,

... Über das Internet sind wir auf den Wikipediaeintrag zur Feuerzangenbowle gestoßen und haben Ihr Bild zu diesem Eintrag gesehen. Vielen Dank für Ihr Interesse und das Uploaden dieses Fotos.

Gerne hätten wir an dieser Stelle ein Foto ..., das die Atmosphere und die Größe des Kessel stärker hervorbringt. Meine Frage wäre nun, wäre es denn vielleicht möglich, dass Sie Ihr Bild mit einem Bild, das wir Ihnen schicken würden, ersetzen? Über ein positives Feedback würden wir uns sehr freuen!

Beste Grüße,

... GbR

E-Mail und Name sowie Textpassagen, die auf den Absender hindeuten, habe ich aus rechtlichen Gründen entfernt.

This e-mail was sent by ... GbR to Mattes by the "E-mail user" function at Wikimedia Commons.

Antwort (Entwurf):

Sehr geehrter Herr ...,

danke für Ihre Nachricht. Leider bin ich nur ein einfacher "Mitarbeiter" bei Wikimedia Commons. Ich kann aber einige Tipps geben. Außerdem kann ich versuchen, dass Ihr Bild (sofern photographisch von besserer Qualität) in entsprechenden Galerien oder Artikeln durch das alte ersetzt wird. Das Austauschen von Bildern anderer Urheberrechtsinhaber in der Datei ("überschreiben") ist äußerst unüblich und wird allgemein nicht gewünscht. Möglich ist hingegen der Wechsel der Einbindung in Artikel oder Galerien. So wie Sie es vorschlagen, ist es sehr kompliziert bzw. unmöglich (Hochladen im Auftrage eines Dritten - hier wäre eine schriftliche Erklärung bzgl. Urheberrechts- und Vervielfältigungsrechte sowie Kostenfreiheit, Haftungsausschluß etc. notwendig, was wiederum eingescannt werden müßte und bei OTRS (Arbeitsgruppe zur Verwaltung aller Wikimedia-Daten) dokumentiert werden müßte (E-Mail-Versand).

Zunächst müssten Sie selbst Urheberrechts- und Vervielfältigungsrechte am Bild haben. Am einfachsten ist es, sie verwenden ein selbst gefertigtes Lichtbild. Anschließen müssen Sie sich für eine Lizenz entscheiden, siehe (am besten einfach Public domain = Gemeinfrei). Eine kommerzielle Nutzung des Bildes kann bei Commons übrigens nicht ausgeschlossen werden. Dann müßten Sie sich bei Wikimedia Commons als Benutzer registrieren (ca. 10 Sekunden, Pseudonym OK) und laden Sie das Bild hoch: Der weitere Ablauf ist eigentlich sehr einfach. Die meisten gängigen Dateiformate werden unterstützt. Die maximale Dateigröße ist 100 MB.

Haben Sie das Bild nicht selbst gefertigt, muß der Urheberrechts- und Nutzungsinhaber ein kurzes Schreiben aufsetzen (E-Mail, Textvorschläge unter und sendet es mit dem Bild an

Die angehängte Bilddatei sollten gleich richtig benannt sein, z.B. "Größte Feuerzangenbowle der Welt, München Isartor.jpg" o.ä.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen


Oder soll ich die Anfrage gleich an OTRS weiterleiten? Ciao, --Mattes (talk) 10:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Mattes! Ich glaube nicht, dass X das Bild tatsächlich überschrieben haben möchtet. Also brauchst du nicht erklären, dass es unüblich ist (wir würden das nicht machen! - Dein Bild bleibt). Ist das neue Bild besser, könnte man es einfach im Artikel ersetzen und die Community entscheiden lassen. Du kannst gerne die Mail an weiterleiten. Dann werde ich mich (als OTRS-Mitarbeiter) um die Lizenzierungsfragen kümmern. Grüße Nillerdk (talk) 11:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Derjenige muss sich auch nicht anmelden. Du oder ich können das Bild hochladen. Dann ist allerdings ein OTRS-Ticket zwingend erforderlich. Nillerdk (talk) 11:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Resolved
E Mail sent, thanks for the support! --Mattes (talk) 14:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Genehmigungen/Freigaben einsehen

Könnte man es so einrichten, dass jeder Benutzer die OTRS-Tickets (beschränkt auf Genehmigungen bzw. Freigaben) einsehen kann? Wenn ich es richtig sehe, geht dies nur als OTRS-Volunteer, nicht als Außenstehender. Schon allein zur Kontrolle wäre es gut, wenn man die Daten einsehen könnte (stellt Euch nur mal vor, jemand erfindet einfach die Ticket-Nummern...). --Mattes (talk) 14:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Mattes, die E-Mails enthalten vertrauliche Informationen wie bspw. Klarnamen von Nutzern, die sonst lieber anonym bleiben möchten. Überdies möchten einige Nutzer auch nicht, dass irgendwelche Beziehungen (Verwandschaft ...), die sie in den Freigabemails zum Zwecke der Freigabedokumentation offenlegen, öffentlich einsehbar sind. Aus diesem Grund ist eine Zugänglichmachung der E-Mails nicht möglich, da nicht gewünscht. In der Regel werden Freigaben von OTRS-Mitarbeitern eingetragen - dies kann in der Versionsgeschichte der Bildseite überprüft werden. Sollten dennoch Zweifel an einer eingetragenen Freigabe bestehen, kann diese Seite hier verwendet werden, um dies überprüfen zu lassen. —Pill (talk) 09:58, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
✓OK Danke für die Infos, --Mattes (talk) 16:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


Can somebody check on the licensing for this photo? The infobox states that it is "public domain", but the license below is GDFL/CC-BY-SA-3.0. - Gump Stump (talk) 17:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

This also relates to User talk:MichaelMaggs/Archive/2008#Licensing question. It appears the author is the uploader, and that was confirmed, but the rights may be owned by another party. However, the permission is a bit shakey. It seems to imply "for promotional use only". No license or "public domain" claim is made explicitly in the OTRS. I'd like another agent's view of this. -Andrew c (talk) 20:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree, this is not good. The agent who handled the email currently states on his talk page that he is not available for admin or copyright issues. The image should be nominated for deletion, or just deleted. Stifle (talk) 08:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done. PeterSymonds (talk) 10:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


I sent an email to OTRS last April and received a reply receipting it as: "Ticket#2009041110001141".
I sent a further email in July, and the image was deleted.
I sent a third email a week ago, it has yet to be acknowledged.
In a nutshell: the photo was taken in 1936 and appeared in the press. I encountered this specific image in a pre-announcement of a book (which has since been published). So I wrote to the book’s author (the full email conversation including (my interpretation of) wp copyright rules are in the forwarded emails) – and he gave this permission: “I guess you can use the photo with the book announcement if you like. Just credit RNLI for the Mary Stanford one – it must be the most famous picture of the boat.” Clearly he didn’t take the picture himself. However it is in his book. His writing is sponsored by the RNLI. So he speaks for them. On one of their web pages the RNLI claim copyright of this image. Another point – if it was in the newspaper in 1936 – might it be free anyway? I just want a reply – if you say ‘no’, please say why. ClemMcGann (talk) 01:14, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Did you read the reply to the email sent to you on April 11th? It explains why the permission you sent wasn't sufficient. (Make sure you read all the way to the bottom of the email.) I can resend it to you if you've deleted it.
As for the 1936 point, what country was the image taken in? Stifle (talk) 18:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for answering - no - I have no record of receiving an an email - please resend. The photo was taken in Ireland, it was published in The Cork Examiner and in the en:Evening Echo, February 1936 ClemMcGann (talk) 04:37, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
What excellent newspapers (-: Sadly, the copyright hasn't expired unless the photographer died before 1939 or the work was anonymous.
I've resent the email to you just now from If you don't get it, please check your spam filter. Stifle (talk) 08:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Email received - thanks. I knew it was a marginal call, which is why I passed the decision over to otrs. Now its time to seek peer review for the article, as it stands.[4] Perhaps awareness will be raised of a famous lifeboat, left to rot. ClemMcGann (talk) 13:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


Can someone check on the status of File:Sumaira.jpg? It was uploaded with a note about OTRS pending, but without the tag, and I just want to make sure it doesn't get lost. JesseW (talk) 02:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

How long ago was the email sent? There's currently a backlog of 11 days. Stifle (talk) 18:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Uploaded on the 7th, so it may just be in the queue. JesseW (talk) 02:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Just had a quick search and the text "sumaira" doesn't appear in any email currently in the permissions queue. Stifle (talk) 16:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
We should probably just delete it; it's of vague encyclopedic use, has no clear source -- just "google", and seems to be a false OTRS claim. JesseW (talk) 18:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I've amended the tag to {{subst:nopd}}, which should cover it. Stifle (talk) 08:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

File:20090301 NK veldlopen Abdi Nageeye.jpg

I need a Dutch speaking person to check this image. It had no OTRS but I found an OTRS on other images from same source so i added the OTRS recieved. Can someone check if it is also valid for this image? --MGA73 (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Seems there is more File:20090307 EK indoor Berings.JPG. --MGA73 (talk) 11:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
The ticket 2008082610013775 is about all photos from but it is formulated very vague and the word combination "for Wikipedia" is used many times. All photos marked with this ticket should be candidates for deletion. First, we should really ask the owner again. On his homepage it says "Voor commerciële publicaties gelden tarieven" (fees apply for commercial publications) so he might not accept. I can't write a nice e-mail in Dutch. Who can? Nillerdk (talk) 08:01, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
See the search: Ouch! Hopefully everything is ok, note User_talk:Rudolphous#Image:David van Hetten.jpg and similar uploads. --Martin H. (talk) 11:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
The permission was accepted and is for the whole site. Multichill (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done I have read the ticket again and I agree with you now. The copyright holder has been informed that the photos can be used outside Wikipedia, commercially and he has once written that it applies to the whole website and in a later mail that he choses GFDL as license. It means that all photos taken by Erik van Leeuwen and published on the website can be used with OTRS ticket #2008082610013775. Nillerdk (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I just ran through all ~180 photos appearing in the search "Erik van Leeuwen" and they are all correctly marked with GFDL, author's name and OTRS ticket. The exception is a few derivative works (~5) which do not include the ticket but correctly give Erik van Leeuwen as one of the authors. Nillerdk (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Missed the one I mentioned above? (File:20090307 EK indoor Berings.JPG) ;-) --MGA73 (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Obviously, but have a look at the diff. Strange, eh? Maybe it was showing up correctly half of the time. Nillerdk (talk) 06:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

For the record: After everything is ok now I collected all files in Category:Photographs by Erik van Leeuwen and corrected some wrong license migration. Great pics. --Martin H. (talk) 16:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


Could one of you check whether the ticket that was put onto that image by an IP is correct. Thanks. --Túrelio (talk) 21:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

It is indeed correct. odder (talk) 10:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

File Jacques-friedel.jpg

Concerning file Jacques-friedel.jpg I am copyright holder on that picture.

Robertmahl (talk) 19:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Jacques-friedel.jpg — The file was deleted because we did not receive the permission to use the image. Please review Commons:OTRS#If you need to confirm permission. If the permission is received, we will undelete the file. Until then, we cannot host the file on Commons. If you yourself own the copyright to the file and you only added the {{OTRS pending}} tag to the file by mistake, clearly state that here and the file can be undeleted. - Rjd0060 (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Permission to use picture of Liv Tyler on Wikipedia (this File:LivTylerJune08.jpg?)

I am working on a book on Scandinavian names, and I would like to use the photograph of Liv Tyler by Daniel Dormann that you find on the page about Liv Tyler (English)on Wikipedia as an illustration. Please advise as to how to follow up here.

Nancy L. Coleman

This image is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license, you can use it as long as you follow the license requirements and attribute the author, Daniel Dormann. --Martin H. (talk) 14:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Logo DOP Oli de l'Empordà.jpg

Hello. I deleted this file because I thought this is copyright violation (requested by User:Cameta). The uploader left a message to me and I suggested him to send permission to OTRS. Could anyone check if the OTRS received relevant email. Thanks. Kwj2772 (msg) 12:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

There is currently a backlog of 16 days on OTRS permission emails; please be patient. Stifle (talk) 11:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

File:IMDBNormal 10.jpg

This suspiciously named file has an "OTRS Pending" template on it for the last month. Can someone check to see if anything has been received? -- Deadstar (msg) 10:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Nothing found; tagged {{subst:nopd}}. Stifle (talk) 11:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Deadstar (msg) 11:29, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Rachelle-live photo-1.jpg

I found File:Rachelle-live photo-1.jpg which was tagged with an unnumbered OTRS during the original upload - one of only two contributions by the uploader. Please verify. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 19:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything so I've removed the template and notified the uploader. Unfortunately, he/she didn't enable "Send mail to this user" (also not on eswiki where he/she has some activity as well). Nillerdk (talk) 06:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Update: I've sent a mail to the Women In Jazz page to ask for clarification (Ticket #2009102510006484). Nillerdk (talk) 06:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done No answer. The photo has been deleted. Nillerdk (talk) 08:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


This was just something I noticed... This image has had an OTRS pending for nearly three months. Maybe they forgot to send it, or mistagged it? • Anakin (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

We have a bot that normally notifies uploaders and tags images for deletion. Not sure why this one slipped through. I'll contact the bot operator, and then possibly manually tag it for speedy deletion for lacking permission for so long. -Andrew c (talk) 14:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Parakou image

Hello, May I use the image of Parakou for a blog for a peace corps volunteer in Benin? She visited there but didn't get to take a picture. thanks, Jude Lobe

Have you seen the FAQ's linked at the top of the page (see Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard/FAQ)? If so, have you seen COM:REUSE? If so, do you have any additional questions? -Andrew c (talk) 14:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Use of a picture of Wybe Dijkstra


Ik was wondering if I could use this picture:

for a non - commercial book we are making.

Which author can I include in the book?

I am looking forward to your reply

Greetings Esther van Tienen (The Netherlands)

Have you seen the FAQ's linked at the top of the page (see Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard/FAQ)? If so, have you seen COM:REUSE? If so, do you have any additional questions? We cannot give specific permissions for reuse, however the nature of our free licenses allows reuse under the terms of those licenses (which may be specific to each image). -Andrew c (talk) 14:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


Are the following OTRS tickets valid? Please change the license accordingly.

File:Lilium_callosum_2.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[5] PD-author
File:Lilium_cernuum.jpg otrs:2005121210002658 Ron Moodycliffe[6] PD-author
File:Lilium_columbianum.jpg otrs:2005121210002658 Ron Moodycliffe [7] PD-author
File:Lilium_distichum.jpg otrs:2005121610001437 Nick Kurzenko PD-author
File:Lilium_kelleyanum.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[8] PD-author
File:Lilium_kelloggii.jpg otrs:2005121410002903 Jane McGary[9] PD-author
File:Lilium_kellogii_2.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[10] PD-author
File:Lilium_parvum_1.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[11] PD-author
File:Lilium_parvum_2.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[12] PD-author
File:Lilium_washingtonianum_2.jpg otrs:2006010910003879 John Longanecker[13] PD-author
File:Lilum_concolor.jpg otrs:2005121210002658 Ron Moodycliffe[14] PD-author
File:Lilium_pyrenaicum.jpg otrs:2006010610003768 Javier Ara PD-author
File:Lilium_nanum_Bhutan_Form.JPG no OTRS! Karl Kristensen. Attribution
File:Lilium_nanum.JPG no OTRS! Karl Kristensen Attribution
File:Lilium_rubescens.jpg otrs:2006011210005254 John Game Attribution
File:Lilium_maritimum.jpg otrs:2005121210002658 Ron Moodycliffe [15] PD-author

-- Common Good (talk) 20:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Ticket otrs:2006010910003879: The 6 files by John Longanecker has been released in the public domain by John Longanecker. The evidence based on a mail which we got through a wikiauthor 6 months after permission was given. I think ok.
Ticket 2005121210002658: The 4 files by Ron Moodycliffe (note the last one the list which you forgot?) are probably ok. We got the mail through the same wikiauthor. Ron Moodycliffe writes "I have no objection" to the question whether he wants to release in the public domain.
2005121410002903: Jane McGary releases the photo above for all uses. Mail received through same wikiauthor.
2005121610001437: Nick Kurzenko releases the photo in the public domain. Mail received through same wikiauthor. Original photo not available on the URL anymore, but I assume it is the same photo.
2006010610003768, 2006010610003768: Javier Ara declares that he is the photographer of the two photos photo above and releases them in the public domain.
2006011210005254: John Game answer "that's fine" to the question whether he wants to release in the public domain. He adds: "Please credit me as photographer, you can use any of my photos online.".
I couldn't find a ticket regarding the two photos by Karl Kristensen. The same wikiauthor, Christian Hummert, copied the answer from Karl to the photo description pages. They are ok as well if we trust Christian Hummert (I think we should).

Nillerdk (talk) 14:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done I have checked all tickets and corrected all file description pages. Nillerdk (talk) 15:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)