User talk:Jane023/Archive 9

File:William Lukens Elkins.jpg

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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - development update, March 2019

This text is also posted on the Structured Data hub talk page. You can reply there with questions, comments, or concerns.

A development update for the current work by the Structured Data on Commons team:

After the release of multilingual file captions, work began on getting depicts and other statements ready for release. These were originally scheduled for release in February and into March, however there are currently two major blockers to finishing this work (T215642, T217157). We will know more next week about when depicts and statements can likely be ready for testing and then release; until then I've tentatively updated the release schedule.

Once the depicts feature is ready for testing, it will take place in two stages on TestCommons. The first is checking the very basics; is the design comfortable, how does the simple workflow of adding/editing/removing statements work, and building up help and process pages from there. The second part is a more detailed test of depicts and other statements, checking the edge-case examples of using the features, bugs that did not come up during simple testing, etc. Additionally we'll be looking with the community for bugs in interaction with bots, gadgets, and other scripts once the features are live on Commons. Please let me know if you're interesting in helping test and fix these bugs if they show up upon release, it is really hard to find them in a test environment or, in some cases, bugs won't show up in a testing environment at all.

One new thing is definitely coming within the next few weeks, pending testing: the ability to search for captions. This is done using the inlabel keyword in search strings, and will be the first step in helping users find content that is specifically structured data. I'll post a notice when that feature is live and ready for use.

Thanks, let me know if you have questions about these plans. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks re: Ashmolean Museum

Hi Jane, you already know I'm a fan, but I recently discovered Category:Daisy_Linda_Ward_bequest and wanted to thank you specially for the work you've been doing around Ashmolean Museum art. I'm working with some Ashmolean data, though not about those paintings, so it's a great help to me that you're documenting those works. I'm in the process of creating Wikidata entries for the artworks in that category that are missing them. In particular, I am trying to demonstrate the value of depicts properties in Wikidata: each time you add more of those to Ashmolean items, you make me a little happier. Cheers! MartinPoulter (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Daisy Linda Ward (and her widower) are just two of the flower painting collectors that I work on from time to time. I haven't been systematically working on the Ashmolean but I would really like to have ALL the flower paintings at some point that are in there. I like what you are up to too! In fact I was just coming to Commons to look up a Bodleian link to tweet to you in response to your IIIF work. I have been thinking about how to make more of this Commons stuff available in ways outside the Wikisource language silos. My thinking is that it could be useful for certain very early texts to be completely fed into Wikidata by page so that pages can be linked from any other item. As someone working with paintings, I was originally just thinking about miniatures in book-of-hours, but the more I think about it, any page written with notable calligraphy would be eligible, in my view. Jane023 (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - early depicts testing

The Structured Data on Commons development team has the very basic version of depicts statements available for early testing on Test-Commons. You can add very basic depicts statements to the file page by going into the new “Structured Data” tab located below the "Open in Media Viewer button." You can use the Latest Files link in the left side nav bar to select existing images, or use the UploadWizard to upload new ones to test with (although those images won’t actually show up on the site). The test site is not a fully functional replica of Commons, so there may be some overall problems in using the site, but you should be able to get a general idea of what using the feature is like.

Early next week I will call for broad, community-wide testing of the feature similar to what we did for Captions, with instructions for testing, known bugs, and a dedicated space to discuss the feature as well as a simple help page for using statements. Until then, you're welcome to post on the SDC talk page with what you might find while testing depicts.

Thanks in advance for trying it out, you'll be hearing more from me next week. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - testing qualifiers for depicts

As you might have seen, testing is underway for adding qualifiers to depicts statements. If you have not left feedback already, the Structured Data on Commons development team is very interested in hearing about your experience using qualifiers on the file page and in the UploadWizard. To get started you can visit Test-Commons and chose a random file to test out, or upload your own file to try out the UploadWizard. Questions, comments, and concerns can be left on the Structured data talk page and the team will address them as best as they can. Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hours this week, 18 July

The Structured Data team is hosting an IRC office hour this week on Thursday, 18 July, from 17:00-18:00 UTC. Joining information as well as date and time conversion is available on Meta. Potential topics for discussion are the testing of "other statements", properties that may need to be created for Commons on Wikidata soon, plans for the rest of SDC development, or whatever you might want to discuss. The development team looks forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - testing other statements

You can now test using other statements for structured data on the file page on Test-Commons. Some datatypes are not yet available, such a coordinates, but further support will be extended soon. You can find more information about testing on the SDC talk page. The team looks forward to your feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Category:Pieter Hermanus Luitjes van der Meulen

Hallo Jane023, is dit dezelfde Pieter van der Meulen (1780–1858) waarvoor ik zonet een Category:Pieter van der Meulen (1780–1858) aanmaakte? Indien ja, zou het zinvol de door jou aangemaakte category te hernoemen? Thns. Lotje (talk) 11:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Volgens de RKD zijn ze dezelfde persoon, dus ik vind het best. Beide namen zijn correct volgens hun. Het is waarschijnlijk ook verstandig dan om een category redirect aan te maken, welke je ook kiest. Jane023 (talk) 11:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Hallo Janeo23 ik heb er een zootje van gemaakt, wil je het eens nazien? Thnks. Lotje (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Ik zie geen zootje? Het zier er prima uit. Ik kan zelf geen redirect maken op de officiele manier, dus ik deed het op de WP manier. Ergens zal een bot langs komen om het in orde te maken. Dat redirect is handig want je zoekt doorgans toch op "Pieter van" en niet "Pieter Hermanus". Jane023 (talk) 16:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments Italia 2019, è iniziato! Il tuo contributo è prezioso!

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Hi,

You're receiving this message because you've previously contributed to the annual Wiki Loves Monuments contest in Italy. We'd be delighted if you would do so again this year and upload your photos to share the italian cultural hertage with the world!!

You can find more details at the Wiki Loves Monuments Italia website and here. If you have images taken in other countries you can check the international participants.

This year's contest runs until 30 September 2019.

If you need help please contact me! --Marta Arosio (WMIT) (talk) 13:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments France 2019

Bonjour,

Le concours Wiki Loves Monuments France est de retour et ouvert jusqu'à 31 septembre ! Déjà 8309 photos ont été importés cette année, vous aussi rejoignez le concours !

Le concours concerne tous les monuments présents dans la base Mérimée (qu'ils soient classés, inscrits ou simplement classés). De l'imposant château aux ruines industrielles, de la chapelle au coin de la rue aux mégalithes en forêt, c'est un impressionnant patrimoine qui attend d'être photographié et documenté. Où que vous soyez il y a des monuments autour de chez vous. Enfin, vous pouvez mettre en ligne autant de photos que vous le souhaitez de ces monuments. Pour information, le règlement est disponible sur le site du concours. Nous attendons vos photos avec impatience !

Les plus belles photos seront sélectionnées par un jury national composé d'amateurs et de professionnels, de contributeurs à Wikimedia Commons et d'acteurs du patrimoine. Un jury international sélectionnera ensuite des meilleures photographies mondiales.

Si vous avez des questions, l'équipe organisatrice se fera un plaisir d'y répondre.

P.S. : vous recevez ce message parce que vous avez participé au concours Wiki Loves Monuments en France les années précédentes. Si vous avez déjà ou si ne pouvez pas participer au concours cette année, faites passer le message autour de vous pour que de nouveaux et nouvelles photographes rejoignent l'aventure !

Bonne journée,

Sarah Krichen WMFr et Nicolas Vigneron, pour l'équipe de Wiki Loves Monuments France, 14:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

File:Veiling klok visafslag.jpg

File:Veiling klok visafslag.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Tekstman (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging

The development team is starting work on one of the last planned features for SDC v1.0, a lightweight tool to suggest depicts tags for images. I've published a project page for it, please have a look. I plan to share this page with everyone on Commons much more broadly in the coming days. The tool has been carefully designed to try to not increase any workload on Commons volunteers; for starters, it will be opt-in for auto-confirmed users only and will not generate any sort of backlog here on Commons. Additionally, the tool is highly privacy-minded for the contributors and publicly-minded for the third party being used, in this case Google. The implementation and usage notes contain more information about these and other potential concerns as a starting place. It's really important that the tool is implemented properly from the start, so feedback is welcome. Questions, comments, concerns are welcome on the talk page and I will get answers as quickly as possible as things come up. On the talk page you can also sign up to make sure you're a part of the feedback for designs and prototype testing. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

File:Els Kloek met boek 1001 vrouwen.jpg

Leuke foto!

Wat is de bron, staat die online? Of heb je toestemming van de fotograaf? Want ik denk dat we dit even via OTRS moeten vastleggen als je de foto in de mail hebt gekregen. Ciell (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Dank, vond ik ook. Het staat niet online, maar de fotografe heeft Wikiportret gebruikt en zag het niet terug, maar "in de wachtrij"? Ik ken haar, noch Wikiportret, maar kon het betreffende plaatje nergens vinden. Als je die kan vinden, dan is de kwaliteit waarschijnlijk beter. Deze heb ik via Els in fb chat, dus niet optimaal foto delivery, zou ik zeggen. Ik zag dat Marike ook al een foto van Monique Kooijmans heeft geupload, dus een categorie is mogelijk nu. Ik deed het gewoon op dezelfde manier. Jane023 (talk) 07:13, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikiportret is inderdaad maar voor een selecte groep gebruikers toegankelijk, die zorgen dan verder voor de upload naar Commons en de plaatsing van de foto in het artikel. Dat duurt soms even, maar meestal hebben ze het in een week wel rond.

Het lastige is dat we nu voor jouw afbeelding geen bewijs van toestemming van Monique hebben en dat, voor zover wij als "Wikimedia" weten, Monique de auteursrechtenhouder is. Alleen de auteursrechtenhouder kan bepalen dat hij of zij iets vrijgeeft onder een Creative Commons licentie.

Wat ik als Commons admin en OTRS-er nu zie is dat jij een foto van iemand anders hebt geüpload zonder dat er bewijs is van de toestemming.... :( Ciell (talk) 08:10, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Hoezo is het woord van Els geen bewijs? Zij weet donders goed alles over de copyright van Commons (tot in den treure zelfs). Als Monique het niet wilde had ze ook geen toestemming aan Marike gegeven (ik neem aan dat dat wel een persoonlijk contact is). Voor mezelf is het woord van Els meer dan genoeg. Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - modeling data

As you may have seen, there are community discussions underway on how to best model structured data on Commons.

Direct links to pages created so far:

• Date (talk)
• Source (talk)
• Author (talk)
• Copyright (talk)
• Licensing (talk)
• Location (talk)
• Quality (talk)

Please visit and participate in topics you might be interested in when you get some time. Thanks. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)