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Présentation ?[edit]

Bonjour et bravo pour votre chantier de classement des sculpteurs français.

Pensez à prendre un petit moment pour créer votre page d'utilisateur. Vous n'avez pas besoin de raconter votre vie, mais sur un projet multilingue comme Commons, il est très utile de préciser au moins dans quelles langues on peut échanger avec ses petits camarades. L'usage consiste à utiliser le système Babel, que vous pouvez par exemple voir sur ma page d'utilisateur. Si la syntaxe vous paraît difficile à suivre, indiquez-moi quelles langues vous pratiquez à un niveau suffisant pour pouvoir discuter par écrit et quel est votre niveau d'anglais. Je créerai ensuite la boîte pour vous. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Inlay work.jpg[edit]

Since star of David is commonly known as a Jewish symbol, there is no point in removing this category. Etan Tal (talk) 12:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

As you like. --Bohème (talk) 12:45, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

File:OLGCDec08Floor.jpg[edit]

Hello. this edit you removed the category for the building shown. I assume this was an accident, so I put Category:Our Lady of Good Council Church, New Orleans back. Cheers, Infrogmation (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Ups, sorry. Well done. --Bohème (talk) 01:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Danaged chair without visible damage[edit]

Hello again. What is the damage to the chair at File:14Dec05Low9JourdanAllWeHaveLeft3.jpg? It looks to me that the chair and sign are the only visible things with no damage whatsoever. What am I missing? Confused, -- Infrogmation (talk) 04:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Reines de France et Femmes célèbres[edit]

Bonjour Bohème,

Pas de problème. Je pense que le plus adapté est Statues des Reines de France et Femmes illustres au Jardin du Luxembourg car il s'agit d'un titre quasi-officiel de cette série de sculptures, et l'anglais ne serait pas nécessairement le meilleur. Bien à toi.--LPLT (talk) 12:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Family info[edit]

You may be interested in this discussion. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Porcelaine, céramique et faïence[edit]

Bonjour Bohème,

comme tu es le spécialiste de ces matières, je te prie de jeter un coup d'oeil ici. Les diverses photos sont catégorisées de façon assez approximative, peut-être pourrais-tu y apporter davantage de précision. Merci d'avance, Edelseider (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Category:Promenades in Saint-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie[edit]

Pour info--Bapti 08:38, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Street food[edit]

What is up with this edit? The removed categories seem perfectly relevant. - Jmabel ! talk 01:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jmabel, Well, food remains food. Food is neither an eating establishment (upper category) nor a restaurant nor a vendor. Street food is not a type of restaurant, but a type of food. Isn't that right? --Bohème (talk) 02:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Catégories vides[edit]

Je vais essayer... avec plaisir--Pierpao.lo (listening) 09:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Curule categories[edit]

Why is it necessary to have three four curule categories when just one seemed to be working fine before? Why is it necessary to have a large image at the top of your user talk page? AnonMoos (talk) 07:14, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi AnonMoos, thx for your message. 1.) You are right: we had one single Category:Curule chairs under upper Category:Ancient Roman furniture, filled with Ancient Roman curule 'seats' (this is the technical expression and fits for backless 'stools' and 'chairs', i.e. 'back'chairs), but also with medieval, Renaissance and other curule 'chairs' (backchairs), a 19th-century curule 'stool' (backless), and so on. Category:Curule stools is also necessary for the 18th and 19th-century upholstered curule stools in use at the court and still manufactured nowadays. I did not finish the work I began yesterday, but I just placed some examples of those upholstered curule stools in the adequate category, so you might understand the difference between the three categories; the fourth (uppest) category is necessary to keep them all together. I hope this is clearly explained; my english is unfortunately not as good as my french or german. Feel free to ask. Those categories should go one step down to Category:Ancient Roman curule seats. 2.) The image is not necessary but keeps me in good mood; sorry if it disturbs you. Have a nice day, Bohème (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


Category:Marquees[edit]

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--Jmabel ! talk 15:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Works on stairs?[edit]

See my work in Rovigo palaces :-)--Threecharlie (talk) 12:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Très bien Threecharlie, et ... catégorisés. --Bohème (talk) 15:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup. J'espère qu'ils ont été intéressants :-)--Threecharlie (talk) 16:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Category:Artificial lakes[edit]

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--ŠJů (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Seattle[edit]

[1] Seattle is not in Washington D.C., it is in the U.S. state of Washington. Jmabel ! talk 16:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)-

Sry. Merci de l'avoir corrigé. --Bohème (talk) 21:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Rotation? I believe not.[edit]

Hallo Bohème, please see http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Obersch%C3%B6neberg_St._Ulrich_216.JPG&action=history and http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Oberbechingen_St._Michael_Zirbelnuss_37.JPG&action=history Do you disagree? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

You are right, of course. Thanks for your attention. --Bohème (talk) 19:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for your corrections! :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:Tree stump seats[edit]

Good idea, thanks for this category! --:bdk: 11:02, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome ! Have a nice day. --Bohème (talk) 11:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Since I usually end up here on the rare occasion I think you are wrong...[edit]

... I just wanted to drop by for once to say thanks for so often doing a good job of refining categories. - Jmabel ! talk 16:54, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Merci pour ta visite :-) --Bohème (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

calf fur[edit]

Hallo Bohème, die Kategorien für Pelzfelle teilen sich alle auf in fur-skins (calf fur skins) und clothing (calf (clothing)).

In clothing kommt alles hinein, was verarbeitet ist, auch wenn es keine Kleidung ist. Sonst müssten wir für verarbeitetes Fell, das keine Kleidung ist, eine extra Kategorie anlegen. Da das aber meist nur sehr wenig ist, lohnt das nicht, ich weiß auch nicht, wie das dann heißen soll. - Wenn Du unbedingt es auch in skins haben willst, dann bitte auch in clothing lassen. Clothing ist aber bereits eine Unterkategorie von skins (Kategorie calf (clothing) ist in Kategorie calf fur-skins enthalten), eigentlich soll das deshalb nicht sein. Kann man aber machen.

Der Kategorie-Name calf skin ist falsch!!! Auf Commons muss immer der Plural benutzt werden, calf skins.

Beste Grüße --Kürschner (talk) 12:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


Hallo Kürschner, ich möchte Dir nicht in Dein Fach pfuschen. Vielleicht kannst Du mich aufklären, so dass wir auf einen Nenner kommen.

  1. Die Singular-Form in Cat:Calf skin (in zwei Worten oder auch calf-skin mit Bindestrich) ist nicht unbedacht gesetzt worden. Sieh mal in Category:Animal skin. Es geht da um das von einem bestimmten Tier gewonnene Rohprodukt (auch in deutsch Kalbfell ohne s).
  2. "Calf fur-skin" hat keines meiner Wörterbucher. Wäre nicht Cat:Fur calf-skin (anstatt Cat:Calf fur-skin) die richtige Benennung? Und "Calf hair" für das bearbeitete behaarte Produkt? Eingestanden: es passt dann nicht mehr so perfekt in das bestehende Pelzkategorien-System ...
  3. Zu Leder verarbeitet heisst es -> cat:calfskin in einem Wort (deutsch:Kalbsleder), wobei der Zusatz leather verzichtbar wäre, ich habe ihn der Unmissverständlichkeit halber gesetzt.
    Das mag kompliziert und redundant klingen, aber langfristig ist eine Abgrenzung zwischen behaartem Kalbfell [2] und Kalbsleder [3] sicher sinnvoll.
  4. Welche Bedeutung hat in der cat:calf (clothing) das Wort clothing? Irre ich in der Annahme, dass da in Leder gebundenen Bücher nicht hingehören und auch keine mit Fell überzogenen Fahrräder? Jedenfalls kommt mir das "spanisch" vor.
  5. Wenn weitere Unterkategorien notwendig werden sollten, böten sich Cat:Calfskin products für Leder und eine ähnliche Kategorie für die behaarten Produkte an (Cat:Calf hair products? Cat:Calf hair (fur)? Cat:Calf hair fur products? ), mit Unterkategorie Cat:Calf hair clothing.

Berichtige mich bitte. Beste Grüsse --Bohème (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Kannst du diesen Herrn mit seinen Pelzzipfeln gebrauchen bzw. irgendwo unterbringen?

Na, erst mal danke für die ausführliche, nette Antwort.
Ich bin leider kein "native English speaker" und bin mir immer sehr unsicher, wenn es um das Anlegen einer neuen Kategorie geht. Es ist mir nicht immer möglich, mich in die Feinheiten der Sprache einzudenken. Ich habe bis heute keinen englisch sprechenden Mitstreiter aus der Pelzbranche gefunden.
Die Klammer-Kategorie (clothing) entstand, weil jemand bereits die Kategorie "Ermine (clothing)" angelegt hatte, wohl die einzige der Pelz-Kategorien, die nicht von mir verbrochen wurde, inzwischen sind nur in der Unterkategorie "Ermine (clothing) in art" allein fast 3000 Bilder. Nach dieser Kategorie hatte ich mich dann gerichtet. Den Begriff "fur-skins" habe ich beim (deutschen) Vorsitzenden des Pelzfachverbands abgefragt, zwar intensiv, aber doch auf die Schnelle. Der Bindestrich ist von mir, weil es sonst manchmal sehr unübersichtlich wird. Da der Begriff bisher nicht beanstandet wurde, scheint er nicht ganz verkehrt zu sein.
Selbstverständlich passen kalbverkleidete Fahrräder nicht wirklich in die Kategorie Kleidung, wundere mich selber, dass ich bisher mit der Einordnung anderer Produkte als Kleidung immer durchgekommen bin. Ich habe es allerdings in jeder Kategorie vermerkt, dass alle Produkte aus Pelz mit eingeordnet werden, hoffe ich jedenfalls. Wollte man das ändern, müsste man für jeder der zahlreichen Kategorien eine, wie von Dir sehr gut angedachte, Kategorie "Fur products" vorschalten. An sich keine schlechte Idee. Wenn Du Lust hast... (man kann natürlich auch mit einer anfangen - gerade das Fahrrad hatte ich nur sehr ungern unter Kleidung eingeordnet, Fahrradmantel ;-), trotz des vorhandenen Vermerks in der Kategorie).
Ich ging bisher davon aus, dass es zwei Kategoriebäume gibt, einen für Leder (ohne Haare, leather oder/und skins?) und einen anderen für Felle (mit Haaren, fur-skins). Eigentlich würden wir uns doch da gar nicht in die Quere kommen?
Inwieweit ich jetzt mit dem Plural falsch liege, vermag ich nicht zu sagen. Wenn das ein Überbegriff ist, den man in der Einzahl belassen soll - tja, mein Sprachgefühl, mein Englisch - da muss ich passen. Man kann es sehen wie ich, da sind Bilder von skins drin, oder aber als allgemeinen Begriff. Ich neige dazu, doch den Plural anzuwenden, weil Commons ihn erst einmal, bis auf Ausnahmen, verbindlich vorschreibt. Sonst könnte man ja jeden Begriff in Deinem Sinn verallgemeinern? Sehe ich das falsch?
Deinen Herren habe ich als 2937. Hermelinträger in die Superkategorie eingeordnet, herzlichen Dank. Wäre jetzt auch an der Zeit, diese Kategorie weiter aufzusplitten, zum Beispiel in Indians with ermine (clothing) in art - oder sind das dann Inder mit Hermelin anstelle Indianer? - Kaiser und Könige - Politiker und Clerics with ermine gibt es ja schon, usw. NEIN! ICH NICHT! Und auf keinen Fall heute abend.
Erst mal einen schönen Abend heute Abend und noch mal danke vom --Kürschner (talk) 19:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

"Carved"[edit]

There is no point setting up a plethora of categories for "carved" ivory book-covers etc. All ivory book covers, and ivory objects, are by definition carved. Johnbod (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Bookcases / bookshelves[edit]

Not sure I get this change. Isn't a bookcase more specific than bookshelves? There are a lot of arrangements of bookshelves (e.g. typical libarary stacks) that would not involve bookcases. - Jmabel ! talk 22:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Joe, thanks for your message. There is/was a great deal of bad categorized files in the Category:books (and subcategories). I do my best to find a correct way to give each of them the appropriate category. Bookshelves (boards) are open shelves [4], sometimes with a closed back, but distinct from bookcases or book cabinets (case furniture) which have doors [5]. Library stacks are in Category:Stacks (library interiors). Do you think it would be a good idea to create a upper Category:Book storage to keep them all together? --Bohème (talk) 23:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
P.S.: Could you please have a look at Category:Interier furniture: misspelled, not really usefull and imho deletable. The files may go to Category:Wooden furniture, Category:Cupboards, Category:Bookshelves, Category:Bookcases or others. Thx. --Bohème (talk) 23:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC) P.S.S. Oups, sorry, that seems to be the name of a furniture manufacturer. --Bohème (talk) 23:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I have to say as a native speaker, the definition of a "bookcase" implying having doors strikes me as very archaic: I don't think that's been the dominant meaning since the 18th century, or maybe some time in th 19th century. It does imply to me a piece of furniture (or a built-in) as against (for example) a shelving system based on cantilevered brackets attached to a wall. Probably not a big deal, though: all of the arrangements qualify as bookshelves. - Jmabel ! talk 05:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Joe, I admit that I am not a native and not a good English speaker but I trust the Getty Research Institute’s Art & Architecture Thesaurus and it’s definitions. I am afraid this question is a typical inter-lingual conflict. In French there is a quite clear and in German a very clear distinction between open bookshelves (singular fr = étagère (à livres) ; de = Bücherregal) and bookcases (singular fr = (armoire-)bibliothèque ; de = Bücherschrank), which may not exist in colloquial contemporary BE/AE. [6], [7]. I do believe that BE/AE speaking applied arts and furniture experts / conservators / restorators / collectors and even retailers still differentiate between them. Most of the professional translators do as well. See → [8] [9] It seems strange to categorize case furnitureCategory:Bookcases including works alike the Robert Adam bookcase (1776) or the William Burges bookcase (1867) under the category tree Category:Shelves/Bookshelves, but if in your opinion that’s the right thing to do, please feel free to change it. Your choice :-) --Bohème (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful edits to Category:Freedom of speech[edit]

Thank you for your helpful edits to Category:Freedom of speech. You may be interested in Commons:Village_pump#Category:Freedom_of_speech_-_Crosswiki_Sister_Link_project_coordination. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:44, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Eiffel Tower and fountain, Exposition Universal, 1900, Paris, France.jpg[edit]

Hello Bohème, you claim, against the source information, that this image was taken during the en:Exposition Universelle (1889), not the en:Exposition Universelle (1900). Yet, you don't give any source for this claim. How do you know that? If you change information, give a reliable source, please. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 10:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Good morning Jan, well, I visited the 1900 exposition :-) More seriously: the non-substitutable power of observation (!) and good judgement do miracles. I added some comparative pictures and sources in the File talk and linked it in the file page. I hope that's the right way to do. There are some other files with inaccurate years of production (search: 1889 not 1900). --Bohème (talk) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Place de l'Opéra - fichier mal nommé[edit]

Bonjour Claude villetaneuse, Merci de partager ta belle collection de cartes postales. En essayant d'identifier un immeuble des Grands Boulevards, je tombe par hasard sur le File:ELD 4262 - PARIS - Place et avenue de l'Opéra.JPG. C'est bien la Place de l'Opéra qui est représentée, mais non pas l'Avenue de l'Opéra. Les deux immeubles forment l'angle de la Place de l'Opéra et du Boulevard des Capucines, voir File:INCONNU 4065 - PARIS - Boulevard des Capucines.JPG. Je me permets de corriger le texte et les catégories. Je pense qu'il serait opportun de renommer l'image. Qu'en penses-tu? --Bohème (talk) 21:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour et merci de ce signalement.
Il arrive que les légendes de cartes postales anciennes soient erronées ... Clin. J'ai supprimé l'image de l'article Avenue de l'Opéra, qui n'est effectivement pas concernée.
Par contre, je ne souhaite pas qu'on modifie le titre du fichier, qui est celui de la carte postale. Ton message d'alerte devrait suffire à éviter des erreurs d'utilisation de la carte. Cordialement --Claude villetaneuse (talk) 06:09, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Category:Books_to_be_classified[edit]

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File:University Park MMB N5 Debating Society.jpg[edit]

I've noticed you modifying the categories on this - I'm happy for that to happen (I don't know the category structure for that very well), but please bear in mind it was a debate, not a lecture. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:06, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Oil lamps & Arabian Nights[edit]

Hi there! It seems you removed the Arabian Nights category from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oil_lamps. Arabian Nights and oil lamps (especially Aladdin's lamp) are connected. If you disagree with a certain categorization, please replace it by a better one, not just remove it. You may be undoing a lot of work by someone else. --Judithcomm (talk) 12:08, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Judithcomm, yes I did. The subcategories of Category:Oil lamps should contain files related to oil lamps. Arabian nights are no lamps and the Category:Arabian nights is filled with everything but lamps. Hundreds of files of amusement rides, translators, flying carpets, horses, camels (a great deal from all over the world), but only very few files with Alladins wonderful lamp (only 7 or 8 files available in Category:Oil lamps in art)
The other point is, that it seems difficult to find an accurate name for an arabian nights oil lamp category because Aladdin lamp is the registered trade mark of a kerosene mantle lamp patented in 1909 and manufactured by the Aladdin Industries company. --Bohème (talk) 14:00, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Category:Infrastructure of Moscow Metro[edit]

[10], [11] ...

I'm not sure if that was the right way to categorize it. Inclusion of interior lighting in infrastructure is debatable, but inclusion of all images with any lighting in frame is unmanageable. There are many thousands of interior photographs from Moscow metro alone. Perhaps "lighting fixtures of Moscow metro" subcategory, but then for lighting fixture closeups only, not any interior shots - ? Kaluga.2012 (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

  • p.s. almost all photographs of Moscow metro fail COM:FOP test. Is it worth the time, at all? Resistance is futile, they say... Kaluga.2012 (talk) 14:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Hi Kaluga, I agree: this was not the best and not the most elegant but the shortest way to kleen up the Category:Lamps (light bulbs) and the Category:Lighting fixtures (several hundreds of files without "lighting fixture type" and/or "lighting fixture location" categories). There is currently no accurate "by city" cattree for lighting/lighting fixtures. I just built the "lighting by country" cattree and was not really disposed to treat the "by city" tree at the same time. There is not yet a clear distinction between natural, artificial, chemical and other light sources and there is a great confusion between light, lights, lamps, lanterns, (electric) lighting fixtures, and (candle, oil and other) lighting devices.
    • And yes, I agree that the categories should only contain files where the lighting fixture is the main purpose or historically significant.
    • Concerning the Moscow metro I suggest to wait and see if the NoFOP guideline sweeps the files away. I would deplore the disappearance of some of the wonderful chandeliers and suspended lanterns. If they are still there in january I'll return to Moscow to find another solution. If you have any good idea, feel free to go ahead. Have a good time, --Bohème (talk) 20:03, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Featured picture nomination - Ed Koch[edit]

Hello Bohème,

Please support or oppose this nomination: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Koch_%E2%80%93_Mayor_of_the_City_of_New_York.jpg

DmitryBorshch (talk) 21:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


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Thank you for helping to Wikimedia Commons! Just please keep accuracy your priority while using this right, if you aren't very sure about correct title of the image that or per Commons:File renaming the move doesn't add much value and is just a bit better, leaving it would be better idea :). Cheers −ebraminiotalk 08:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)