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API python library

Hi, the library looks good (i had only a cursory look though :)). One comment - please make sure you add gzip compression to minimize bandwidth requirements. See the get() function of the pywiki framework that deals with zipping/unzipping http streams. Thanks! --Yurik 03:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia programming

so i figured i'd give this whole... wikipedia...programing...thing out. and you look like u know what you are doing. any pointers? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) at 06:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Please give me some more detail in what you want to do and I will try to help you. -- Bryan (talk to me) 13:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Category:Universally replaced by CommonsDelinker

Can you please write an intro to this category? Is it linked in the deletion menu because now these items can be deleted? And if so what should the deletion summary look like??? thanks --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think these objects should be deleted. CheckUsage is still required. Ideally all items should be tagged {{bad name}} or {{duplicate}} and only be deleted once CommonsDupes indicates the object is no longer in use anywhere. CommonsDelinker cannot always replace everything (especially in protected templates or more complex template structures). Some manual work can be part of the process to truely orphan an image. Image:Flag of USA.svg was and Image:European flag.svg is an example of a harder case. Both images take a few days to completely orphan and several hours of work. Cheers! Siebrand 16:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Activity testing script

Greetings Bryan.

The script you wrote to test activity among admins, does it also test for MediaWiki edits? Regards, Fred J 19:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok then, please set it to also include such edits... and thank for telling me it was out of date for 25 days, it explains why Paddy was included (per Commons:Administrators/Inactivity_section#If_you_still_need_your_adminship,_sign_here). Regards, Fred J 19:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

CD ongelukkig

Hoi Bryan. CD is al een paar dagen erg ongelukkig en doet vrijwel niets. Kan je wat TLC geven? Groet, Siebrand 16:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Werkt hopelijk. Code is echter wel een grote rotzooi geworden. -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Flickr upload bot

Please consider exempting me from the 6 uploads per hour limit on the Flickr upload bot. I have approximately 1800 edits to Commons, and 16,000 to the English Wikipedia. I run across group of racing related images on flickr that I upload to Commons using the very useful process. I have notified you several times that there is problems with the bot. Royalbroil 03:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

HermesBot is blocked? ?? ... Perhaps this issue should have been brought to the bot approvals page as I (perhaps incorrectly) just marked this bot as approved based in part on your last comment there. Sigh. Now what should we do? Feel free to revert me in that as needed. ++Lar: t/c 01:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Falash Mura1.jpg

Image deletion warning Image:Falash Mura1.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Persistent error

I'm trying to use the Flickr upload bot to add Image:Waterhouse memorial Yattendon, Berkshire.jpg, but it won't take for some reason. The most recent error code was 7567c0da. Thanks. -Hit bull, win steak 02:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting an error on a different image as well (code 7b95551c). Is the bot broken? -Hit bull, win steak 03:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I broke something. Will be fixed soon. -- Bryan (talk to me) 13:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Works again. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

More Hogarthery if you want to/when you are done with the current Hogarthery. Thanx. 16:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot changing the license O.o ??!

Hello, if I understand well :

  1. you have a bot able to change the license of serie of images ;
  2. you know how to "raise" bots !!!

I have about 1.200 images ( =.= ) in the Commons:CJK stroke order project, which need a License change (clean up), this according to... their file names . This change is need, but only doable by a bot.

Are you able and interesting to help in this task ?

(All information are in the file name. In example, a "j" in the file name means "[[Category:Japan's specific stroke order]])

--Yug (talk) 10:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK ! That's great !
3 months ago I made some draft (Template talk:SOlicense - is it clear enough ?). Otherwise, I will have to prepare some more clear examples for you. And I will have a computer only next month, ableing me to do such "2 hours" edit work summary.
The most important was to know that you may help, and this is perfect.
--Yug (talk) 04:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, many thanks. If something is not clear, simply ask me ;) Yug 02:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


In my opinion your decision was a mistake. This is the coat of arms of the swiss city Arbon. Therefore it´s in the public domain after german and swiss law and because its copyright has expired. In the german article stands "Das Wappen wurde bereits im 19. Jahrhundert verwendet" (The coat of arms has been used already in the 19th century). So it should be old enough to be in the public domain. Please restore this coat of arms. Chaddy 16:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

After Swiss law? I thought this issue was still unsettled on the de-WP. Can you point me to the relevant decisions, please? Lupo 16:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
In de-WP we use coat of arms from Germany/Austria/Switzerland as "official creation". After this opinion, the coat of arms are "gemeinfrei" (comparable to public domain). Maybe, this could be problematical on commons, because we used german law as base for this opinion. Alternatively I could upload it on de-WP, but for that I need the file. Chaddy 19:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really sure about whether they are allowed on Commons. The file was without any source and just "Coat of arms are gemeinfrei " without any further evidence. I can temporarily undelete the file if you want. -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes please, then I´ll upload it to de-WP. Chaddy 19:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Chaddy 19:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
You can delete it now again. ;) I want to upload the file with the same name in de-WP. But that´s only possible, when it´s deleted in Commons. Chaddy 20:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Hoi Bryan. Ik zit tot en met zaterdag in het buitenland en heb mogelijk geen tijd om de toolserverprocessen te controleren? Zou jij dagelijks even de status willen bekijken? Alvast bedankt. Groet, Siebrand 06:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yup. -- Bryan (talk to me) 13:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Flickr upload bot

The bot appears to be not uploading images from flickr properly. It has missed three images in a row. It does setup of the form properly. Royalbroil 13:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the rapid response. Royalbroil 13:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations (or condolences?) on your election/appointment as a Commons Checkuser

Per this confirmation, I see Guillom has given you the bit. Well done! If any of us can be of any assistance please do not hesitate to call on us! Thanks again for volunteering to take the task on for the benefit of Commons. And.. try not to listen to Herby too much! None of the rest of us do... :) ++Lar: t/c 20:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for helping to fend off the vandalism to my user space!

Your help is very much appreciated!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Img copyvio at nl-WP

See nl:Afbeelding:Osho.jpg. Looks like a scan. Also no source. Lupo 07:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot on Books

Hi Bryan - just catching up a bit today the index bot on books appears to be doubling up on its indexing maybe. Cheers & congrats --Herby talk thyme 07:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

That's what happens if you put something there twice ;) [1] -- Bryan (talk to me) 09:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Just went there first so saw you'd sorted it - never thought of that!! Thanks --Herby talk thyme 09:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
So, Bryan, you're claiming it's working as designed, then??? How DARE you not defend against users not knowing what they are doing! :) ++Lar: t/c 17:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Wooden Spoon.jpg - for Larry to stir with. Bryan does the Category bot still work and would it be available on Books? Cheers --Herby talk thyme 18:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... I already wondered why I was not getting error messages... Had it disabled; but should probably work again in the very near future. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Bryan --Herby talk thyme 14:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Bound to be me but b:User:Herbythyme/Categories doesn't look like it is working? Cheers --Herby talk thyme 15:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Done Bryan - I hadn't copied the template - thanks --Herby talk thyme 15:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

adminship &c.

I've replied to your comment among others here, FYI. I mean no disrespect when I say that the various reasons you presumed for my opinion (that I "see adminship as a reward for 'all' [I] have done for Commons"; that I "have no interest in the community and see adminship as a status") were all entirely inaccurate. — Dan | Talk 15:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I was not offended, though I appreciate your preemptive apology; I am simply pointing out, in entirely good faith, that your conclusions were mistaken. It is the same situation with "fatuous": I recognize that some people spent a lot of time thinking out that policy, but I believe it's a wrongheaded policy. I am not interested in meeting bare minimums; I could of course have deleted five nonsense pages at any point. I am interested in giving meaningful assistance to the project whenever my other obligations permit; the removal of my adminship after a busy few months seems hardly necessary when I have shown my willingness to contribute in the past and have stated (clearly, on my userpage, for many months now) my intention to do so again in the future. — Dan | Talk 20:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Filename prefix blacklist

Hello, I have been trying to track down someone whom can change the "Filename prefix blacklist", as stated in my post on the Village Pump. I was directed by user MichaelMaggs to try contacting you. Might you be able to offer any insight or (ideally) modify the program as described in my Pump posting? Thanks and have a good day! --Bossi (talkgallerycontrib) 00:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

De Schipborg

Would it be a good idea if you or Siebrand tried to find out via e-mail with this user what exactly is going on at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Boerderij Schipborg.JPG? Lupo 21:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

On it. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I think it was the right decision. The second image mentioned should probably also go. Lupo 08:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


Could you move Image:William Hogarth - Industry and Idleness, Plate 8; The Industrious 'Prentice grown right, & Sheriff of London.png to Image:William Hogarth - Industry and Idleness, Plate 8; The Industrious 'Prentice grown rich, & Sheriff of London.png? I incorrectly named it that during the preparation process. Thanx, 22:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

On Debian Open Use Logo License

Debian Open Use Logo License Copyright (c) 1999 Software in the Public Interest

"This logo or a modified version may be used by anyone to refer to the Debian project, but does not indicate endorsement by the project."

Please see the above and its link for further information. -Green 06:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Binnenplaats boerderij Schipborg.JPG

I suppose this one should be deleted as well? Finn Rindahl 08:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


"Do not remove this template, or Flickr upload bot will refuse uploading the file! tokenId: 1460
Is your image not uploaded after 15 minutes? Please leave a message for Bryan and add the tokenId and image name."
Well, should I upload the image by myself? Yuval Y § Chat § 22:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently the FlickrLickr have a bug with : in the names. The image was uploaded as Image:2006 TN State Fair- The fluffiest of rabbits.jpg Yuval Y § Chat § 23:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Can I get my flickrbot upload limit removed?

I cross post Flickr and Commons a lot and it would be grand if I could do it with the bot with no limit. ;-) - Joi 12:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Images from the European Parliament Website

Hi Bryan!

Could you do me a favor and tag all the images listed at Commons:Deletion requests/Images from the European Parliament Website as nominated for deletion and also inform the repective uploaders? I do not know whether one of your bots could do that. --ALE! ¿…? 09:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Fout CD

Zie hier. Had je daar niet al eens eerder naar gekeken en/of had ik dat niet al eens eerder gemeld? Groet, Siebrand 12:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


Do you need more volunteers? I'd be happy to help with Commons stuff. --MichaelMaggs 18:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I've applied at m:OTRS/volunteering#MichaelMaggs. Any endorsement you could give, (or get from anyone else; I'm not going to solicit comments generally) would be most appreciated. --MichaelMaggs 21:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Flickr upload bot

Hi, Bryan - I tried to use the bot for the first time today, but it told me I had reached my limit, even though I hadn't uploaded anything yet. Appreciate any advice... Videmus Omnia 21:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

OTRS closure of Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Sergeymila

There should be a CC-BY-SA permission for this deletion request on OTRS. Could you close it and adapt the template, please? Then we'll be done with March. Lupo 08:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi Bryan, how much is it the update limit in the "flickr tools"? Isn't it possible extend that limit? excuse me for my bad english :-) --Dongio 13:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very very very very much! :-) --Dongio 19:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Carolus

Please see my comment here. --MichaelMaggs 08:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Flickr bot limit

Hi! I'd like to be exempted from the Flickr upload bot limit.--Ragesoss 01:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Guide to adminship

all systems go I think... --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Misprints in Template:PD-RU-exempt

You didn't correct misprint, you did new. ;-)

I had asked to change [[w:Republics of the Soviet Union|Soviet Republic]] --> [[w:Republics of the Soviet Union|Soviet Republics]] in second reference;
You changed [[w:Russian SFSR|Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]] --> [[w:Russian SFSR|Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republics]] in comment.

;-) Alex Spade 21:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


Why did you delete Image:Phillis_Wheatley_statue.jpg (summary was: DW)? It has been reuploaded as Image:Phillis_Wheatley_bronze_sculpture_1.jpg Platonides 13:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg

Hi again. I have some serious concerns about Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg, how it came here via BetacommandBot, and how it persists here under the questionable judgement of Betacommand. You have participated in the discussion of bot status for BetacommandBot, so I'd like you to participate in the discussion of Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg. Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I see no reason to judge the author of a bot on a mistake one of the users made. Errare humanum est. -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


I couldn't tell if User:Koba-chan ever answered your query from back in April, but DEMIS data is indeed in the public domain. Their data usage statement is here.Kmusser 16:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


Thank you for informing me about this image, and sorry that it took so long for me to respond. I have now dealt with the issue. I hope you will not hesitate to ask me for help in the future. Regards, Fred J 22:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

to change Jake Gyllenhaal's picture

Hello Bryan,

We the fans of Jake Gyllenhaal, better known as Gyllenhaalics, do not like the picture used on Jake's Wiki page. There are thousands upon thousands of very good pictures of Jake, and that one is not one of them, unfortunately. As an emergency measure, I found a very recent picture of Jake that will do for now, which I was going to load myself until I saw that I have to have 50 edits at Wiki before I would be able to do that. I barely have three edits, and most of the time my edits get changed within 24 hours by trolls. So I barely hang around here at all.

Would it be possible for you to change the picture? I have put it at Flickr as is required, her is the link to it:

here is the description of it:

Jake Gyllenhaal at the Toronto International Film Festival for the World Premiere of Director Gavin Hood's film Rendition. Starring Mr. Gyllenhaal, Reese Witherspoon, Meryl Streep, and Peter Sarsgaard. September 7, 2007.

Thanks in advance if you are able to do this,



Thank you for your inquiry. On Wikimedia Commons, and in Wikimedia projects in general, we only accept free media: This is media, of which the author allows unlimited redistribution, reuse including commercial use and modification. The image on Flickr is tagged as "All rights reserved", which means that the photographer does not allow his image to be freely distributed. If you get the author to change the license of the image to "Attribution ShareAlike" or "Attribution", I can upload the image. Please make sure that:
  1. The flickr user is really the person who took the picture.
  2. The flickr user is aware that those free licenses are irrevocable.
  3. The flickr user is aware of the implications of free licenses: redistribution, modifications and commercial by anybody, not just Wikipedia.
If you get the author to do this, leave me a message and I'll upload the image. -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)