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Image:General Leclerc - Pontoise 03-03-06.jpg[edit]

Regarding the picture Image:General Leclerc - Pontoise 03-03-06.jpg - is the statue in Pontoise (as the cotegory suggests) or in Jouy-le-Moutier (as the text suggests)? Thanks! Olivier2 02:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Olivier. It's in Pontoise. I was power uploading then and made a mistake, i've rectified it now, cheers. —Captain Scarlet 07:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Templates[edit]

From User:dbenbenn's talk page.

Hi, I have explained by point of view on the matter of template looks on Template talk:Information after more or less beeing cast aside. I see there is no way there is going to be any changes made to recent edits. I do want to be part of any kind of conflict and would rather avoid any contact with the editors since whatever I say will be dismissed. I have created a template using the style from the former simply because I, unlike the other editors, do not wish to impose my style. Please do not force me to talk measures such as not using any template by redirecting my recently created template. I appreciate your position but feel bullied into accepting this without my consent. Regards, Captain Scarlet 8 April 2006, 21:51 (GMT)

What are you talking about, "there is no way there is going to be any changes made to recent edits"? You have never edited the template, so you can hardly complain if it isn't the way you like. User:dbenbenn 23:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
So what should I do ? Revert it ? To be accused of vandalism ? It's a lose-lose situation for me whichever. Captain Scarlet 23:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, you could try improving the template to constructively address your concerns, while discussing any relevant issues on the talk page, and working towards a consensus.
By the way, since Template:Image Information is a personal template for you, it ought to be in your user namespace. Something like User:Captain Scarlet/information. User:dbenbenn 04:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
The way I see it if I modified the template I'd simply revert to how it was yesterday morning... But then I'll probably b e accused of beeing narrow minded and unwilling to see change. So how do I put a template in User:Captain Scarlet/information, a redirect to that but then ? Cheers, Captain Scarlet 06:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Cap'n, I moved the template for you. "Moving" pages creates automatic RDRs, so all your images are still fine even though they're pointing to Template:Image Information. To include the template at its new address, just type something like

 {{User:Captain Scarlet/information| 
|Description= nice description
|Date= 
dd mm yyyy
|Author= So and So
}}

-->

Description or title: nice description

Date: dd mm yyyy

Source: Own work

Author: Gregory Deryckère

Permission: {{{Permission}}}

This image, sound or video was uploaded by Captain Scarlet, for more images by the same author, see the user's user page here.


BTW if I was you I would re-insert at least the 'source' field, since image such as this one are using it. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Ooooh thank you. I'll do just that. (yay) mmh, nowiki i know, but what is the pre tag?

Image:Arnold Laver Logo 29-03-06.png[edit]

Hi! I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think that this photo might be on dodgy ground copyrightwise, as it is basically a reproduction of the Arnold Laver logo (which I presume they have trademarked). My suggestion is that this image would be better off uploaded to wikipedia itself where it could be used under a claim of fair use. JeremyA 03:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Heyup, I thought about that and I thnought that instead of uploading the logo I'd take a photo of it instead. Is a photo of a logo ok or is the use of a particular copyrighted file that is wrong ? Captain Scarlet 08:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
That's why I said I am not 100% sure. If you had scanned the logo from, say, a catalogue, how different would that be from taking a photo of it? In the US there is legal precedent for arguing that when you photograph a 2-D picture you do not get copyright of the resulting photo, but I don't know where UK law stands on the issue. I still think that it would probably be best to upload the picture to wikipedia and claiming fair use—there is the {{logo}} tag pre-made for dealing with the fair use justification. JeremyA 15:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I totally see where you're coming from. I've just not been uploading to EN because pictures from EN can only be used there, and I edit on 3 languaged Wikipediae; uploading to the Commons means I can upload a media once then used it accross the whole organisation. If you feel there might an issue feel free to reupload/move the image to EN, I just feel that I took precautions not to use copyrighted media so that I wouldn't be in the wrong. We could always ask other admins' PoV on this one... You have said there was legal precedent in the Us, and the Commons is in the US yeh (or are they on them servers in Paris ?), so can we lean towards the fact that because WP is american then ... See where I'm going.
I don't know really. Your call. Regards, Captain Scarlet 17:35, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

An image of the cab of a Sheffield Supertram[edit]

Would you like to upload this image?Myrtone(aka the strict Australian wikipedian)

Hi, this statement can be found on Thetrams website:
  • The coding, layout, style and content including photographs on TheTrams.co.uk is © Peter Courtenay 2004–2005 except where otherwise stated. Reproduction without prior permission will be regarded as copyright theft.
  • Content on the TramStop forums includes messages and pictures posted by forum users. Copyright in pictures is held by the poster, unless otherwise stated. The header image is © Peter Courtenay 2004–2005.
I will be happy to upload one of my own which is not restricted in use. Regards Captain Scarlet 11:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Wincobank Station 09-03-05.jpg[edit]

Hi! Are the title and description of this photo incorrect? You have it in the w:Meadowhall Station article. JeremyA 18:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Heyup, yes, it's all good. Throughout history there has been several stations in the area:
  • Meadowhall and Wincobank Station (MR)
  • Meadowhall Station (GCR)
  • Meadowhall Interchange (MR)

I named the photo Wincobank as the station is in Wincobank. Captain Scarlet 15:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Sheffield Railways[edit]

Hi! I thought that a map of the railways in Sheffield might be useful. I have a inch-mile Ordnance Survey map from 1907 so I scanned it and traced out the lines and marked some stations. My first attempt is at Image:Sheffield Railways.png. I think that you know more about the local railways than I do so I would appreciate your comments/criticisms, and any errors or omissions that you can see. There are also two stations that I have marked as they are shown on the OS map but I don't know there names and I am hoping that you might (I think that I have now identified one of these as Attercliffe). Thanks, JeremyA 18:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

The map is globally ok, although you've beaten me to it by a mere days since I was going to produce a similar map on the weekend. I will edit your map and indicate the missing and erronous stations. Captain Scarlet 18:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to steal your thunder. If I'd know that you were planning on doing it, I would have just left you to it. If you want to collaborate I can send you the Adobe Illustrator file so that you can edit/expand it. I would like to extend it to Ecclesfield and Chapeltown, but the map that I am using as a basemap doesn't go that far north. I think that it might be good to add the engine sheds too (although I am unsure of the locations of all but Millhouses. Another possible addition would be to mark the tinsley yard. JeremyA 18:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm a bit gutted but hat's off to you for actually going for it before I did ;). What puzzles me is what kind of era your map is representing ? For the yards, large sidings, sheds other stations: i know them. Concerning Adobe Illustrator, that would be nice, but I boycott anything by Adobe, so I'll pass. I usually bog standard PaintShopPro and am happy of what I've done so far (i have release several 3D models and repaints of models for various railway simulators) and with a range of tools. I'll add points and name as is, you'll have to replace them properly, I'd really either start from the beginning or not do it at all. Captain Scarlet 23:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The map is traced from a 1907 map (except the MR to GCR link at Rotherham, for which I used aerial photos from Google Earth). However, my intention was to provide a reference for the articles that exist at Wikipedia, as such I have tried to make it represent the state of play today. But we also have historical articles, so I marked tracks that have been lifted with dashed lines, and used open circles for stations that are closed. In addition, I thought that it might be useful to illustrate the former operating companies by colouring the track according to the railway company that ran it--however, if you think that that is too confusing for a single map then I can change it. One possibility I considered was to make multiple maps to illustrate different time periods, but I thought I'd try it like this first. JeremyA 23:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

As they say: result !. I like your idea of several maps, that would no doubt show the evolution of rail transport: Pre grouping, grouping, BR(now). Enjoy ! Captain Scarlet 23:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I will add everything in due course. I think that I will try the different eras--I have replaced the previous version with my first pass at a pre-grouping map. The date that I chose is 1855--the reason for this is that I thought it would be good to have one from before the Midland new road, and old-maps.co.uk serves up an 1855 map for Sheffield which makes it easier. I have removed all features that do not appear on the 1855 OS map, if there is anything that I have removed that you think ought to be there let me know. My thoughts are to make the grouping version be around 1930, then make the modern version 2005--that puts 75 years between each map. JeremyA 04:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
No problems, I think everything you would want to put on such a map I have added to it, it ought to look spot on after that, you can include or remove some elements I added at your leisure ! So that we don't accidently work on the same things, I have am ap of Sheffield centre, Sheffield Midland Station, Sheffield Victoria Station, Meadowhall, Meersbrook, Totley, Dore in the pipeline. The plan of Meadowhall is already up: Image:Meadowhall - plan.png but not used yet as I would to make a mass update of the Meadowhall article which will include photos I have not yet uploaded. Regards Captain Scarlet 15:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Question: On my 1921 map of the city centre City Station is marked as L. & N.W.R. goods. The line out of City went east through a short tunnel emerging near Nunnery Station (also marked L. & N.W.R. goods). The line out of Nunnery Station joined it, and there was a short branch to an engine shed (this building??), then the line entered a tunnel roughly where Woodbourn Road crosses the Parkway now. Do you know where this line went after that? Did it just join the Great Central Line, or did it do something else. Also, my 1921 map is pre-grouping but I am trying to draw a grouping era map--did these stations/lines become part of the LMS with the rest of the LNWR, or did they go to the LNER with the GC lines? Thanks, JeremyA 23:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Originally, the MR and GCR were not connected in Sheffield, the Nunnery Branch leaving the MML and went parallel to the GCR towards Nunnery Colliery (so not quite like my modifications to your map suggest). The colliery served as a dead end and tje line reversed towards either Nunnery Station and sheds and Midland Station. The GCR had lines encercling the MR/LNWR with the Woodhead and the Warf St goods station (corner of Navigation and Blast). Warf st had its line go over the MML (over a tiny bridge that still exists, then in a tunnel underneath Bernard Road, it then went straight on parallel to Aston St (now Sheffield Parkway) then under Woodburn Road in the tunnel that can be seen next to Ebuyer online shopping. Hope it clears it up ! Captain Scarlet 00:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
UPDATED Captain Scarlet 00:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
You might be interested to know that I have created Chesterfield to Doncaster via Sheffield for a train simulator, and a rather comprehensive one map
I now have Windows XP dual booting on my Mac so I was thinking of buying Trainz!
Anyway, I'm even more confused. The OS map shows the station that you marked as Warf as a simple short branch from the GC Woodhead line. There are some sidings beside that station (but not linked to the CG tracks) that sweep over the MR (using this bridge) and then go through a short tunnel before crossing over the LNWR goods line that I described above. It then enters another short tunnel before emerging to parallel Aston Street, at which point the OS map marks it as Nunnery Colliery Railway. The line then continues east, out of the area covered by my map (I need to buy some more maps!). Just before it leaves the map there is a branch that really interests me--it is marked as an incline, and heads north, past the engine shed that I mentioned above and through a tunnel under the GC lines emerging on the north side of Lumley Street, it then crosses over the Don to a yard at Salmon Pastures. That aside, I think that this is the line that you have marked as the GC line into Warf--is that correct? I have uploaded where I am at with the 1930 map--Image:Sheffield Railways 1930.png, it's getting there slowly but surely. JeremyA 00:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
In few words: yes, that is the one i was talking about, I added it to your modified map. Captain Scarlet 00:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm not sure that we're talking about the same thing so I uploaded the map that I am working from here. I have highlighted the line that I was initially asking about in purple; the arrow marked "Where does this go?" is where the Supertram line turns to the north after passing its depot. Thanks for your help--I wil be sure to acknowledge your contribution. JeremyA 04:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Right, the section to the right is on the Darnall map. I was yet again slightly wrong. The LNWR (City) goes under Woodburn Road near Ebuyer and Supertram depot. The MR had Nunnery Colliery and its line came from Nunnery junction on the MML then sneakingly along the Woodhead. Warf St connects to the MR colliery. That depot is Nunnery shed, that goes with the LNWR goods station. I hope I'm clear... It's very hard to explain, plus I'm a bit rubbish at explaining, scanner is dead so I can't scan the Darnall map. There you go: PFFEEWWWW, I hope that's clearer.
Sorry about messing up the tramway article. I hope you enjoy the plans, I've done plans for all the networks and will do plans for each depot (but not put them all on the page as it'll look messy).
Cheers mate, Greg. Captain Scarlet 10:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem with the tramway article... I just decided to try moving the images around a bit to see if I could get the photos to appear as close as possible to the relevant text at a range of screen sizes. I have reuploaded the 1930 map--it's not quite right in the city centre, but it's so cluttered there that no one would notice whether it were right or wrong anyway! I'm thinking of adding a zoom box showing the city centre in more detail. Thanks for all the help, any more comments/ctiticism/additions would be welcome. JeremyA 15:34, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
It's looking good, I had a look at it before you told me ;) I've noticed you've left West Tinsley, from what I know for sure, the station was called Tinsley West. I'll check fosho tonight when I'm back home. I like what you did for the city centre, it's the best one can expect for such a concentrated area. Cheers, Greg. Captain Scarlet 08:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I got "West Tinsley" from the map that I was using as my source--a search around the web seems to back that name up, but if you have information to the contrary I will be happy to change it. I also found this and this, which I thought might interest you. JeremyA 02:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Nice, I'll go on site to see what's what. Concerning Tinsley, I've used the NMR books and they cite it as Tinsley West (same as Ecclesfield West and Chapeltown West). I would expect there to be a scheme in the original railway companies station naming. I'll also look into that and might have to rename the Tinsley West Station article if it's that you're right. Cheers, Captain Scarlet 09:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Barnsley Tramway - May Day Green.jpg[edit]

Hi Greg! I hadn't realised how old you were ;-) Unless you really are over 104 years old and you have been dead for over 70 years could you update the source and author for this picture. Thanks, JeremyA 16:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Maps[edit]

Hi! So that I don't step on your toes again I thought I'd see what your plans are... I realised that the base of the railway maps that I produced would be a good starting point for showing the rivers in the Sheffield area, so I am planning a rivers map. As I was converting the railway map for that purpose I thought that the same map could show the parks/woodland areas of the city too. Would such a map overlap with anything that you are doing? JeremyA 18:00, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes It would. Parks, Woodlands and Countryside is my current project. On another note, can I request that you don't constantly add English Heritage links, they tend to clog pages and one simple link to the search rather than a seperate link to and every photo would clear up the article. I'm going to have to clear all that up as I'm afraid your numerous link are rather messy. I've made the effort to take better photographs than some that aren't on wikipedia, thus avoiding remote linking.
I've added a pointless and irrelevant tag to that photo you mentionned above. Captain Scarlet 18:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll leave that map to you.
I use the Images of England website extensively as a source for articles. One of the primary rules at wikipedia is to cite your sources. Despite being taken by LRPSs I would agree that the photographs on their pages are of pretty poor quality, however I am not citing the photographs--the page also contains the formal details of the listing and can therefore be considered a primary source.
It saddens me that you feel that acknowledging the authors of photographs is "pointless and irrelevant". However, you still haven't provided your source for the photograph--the source is not your website as currently stated, but where you obtained the photo. If it were someone else that had uploaded the photograph I would just have added the {{no source}} tag to the picture--maybe when you are in a better mood you will see, as I tried to convey above, the humour that I found in you being listed as the author of a 104 year-old photograph. JeremyA 23:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't take it personally. It has been something that I have noticed that although generally sourcing is all good, over sourcing is to the detriment of the article. The way I see it, Images of England is great, but you can't add a reference to it for each and every building of a location. If we source Images of England once it make articles clearer. If information on IoE is important/relevant then we can add it, without having to over cite it, kinda like try and not over wiki (for dates especially). I will though look back at the the Barnsley Tramway piccie since I have uploaded with reason but genuinely forgot to add the photograph's name, you gotta admit your remark wasn't devoid of a touch humour itself. I'll do a cracking map of the parks as I was hoping to do one of the rivers (since I've started many river articles), I love maps, I can't have enough. I'll leave the rivers to you since there are enough maps to do for the both of us. Taketh Careth, Captain Scarlet 23:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, so I'm as bad at making jokes in print as I am in real life--I had hoped that the smiley face would give away the fact that I was laughing at the mental image of you managing to edit wikipedia despite been dead for 70 years. Unless you think that it will be too cluttered, I think that the rivers and parks on the same map makes sense. I only thought to upload a rivers map as I already pretty much have it done--I just have to turn off all of the railway layers in the map that I already drew and add names to the rivers. So if you can put the rivers on the parks map do; otherwise I will be only too happy to upload a rivers map. I actually started playing with the rivers, adding a few districts for reference and then thought that w:Districts of Sheffield could do with a districts map--but I guessed that you might have that in hand too.
As I'm sure you can tell, I too love maps, and I am getting quite a sizable collection, but until I drew the Roman Ridge map I had never tried making one myself. Having discovered that making them is fun I have been looking for others to do--but don't fear, I think that you have Sheffield well covered so I have been scoping out things in Chicago that could be mapped. JeremyA 00:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for being unclear lol. I were refering to the IoE links that made articles look a tad cluttered, not the map. Naaaaa, a river & park map is a gooden, so long as you don't forget the brooks and streams. Geek as I am, the wealth of information I have is vaast, and in the unlikely event that I would create a map of the rivers in Sheffield, I would each and every trickle on that map ooh yeeeh ! Concerning the map of parks I had in mind it would only feature Sheffiels's principal rivers, which brings me to the idea of having one thorough river map and one thorough park map, with rudimentary info of rivers on the park map. Can't have each and every stream and garden on the same map or the map'd be 2000x2000px ('hope you agree). anyway, bedsies for me, hope you enjoy the 50 odd photos I have uploaded this morning (and the 500ish I've taken in total yesterday afternoon). Ninight ! Captain Scarlet 00:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, that's a deal--you do your thing with the parks and I'll do my thing with the rivers. I'm off to play Whirlyball, so goodnight and wish me luck! JeremyA 00:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

what a lot of photos[edit]

! Stevage 13:42, 1 June 2006 (GMT, normal time)

Yeh Captain Scarlet 18:40, 1 June 2006 (GMT, normal time)

Category:Railway stations[edit]

Salut, Captain ! Tu aurais dû me dire que tu avais changé les catégories de train stations en railway stations, il y a plus d'un mois et demi ! Surtout qu'en ce moment, je photographie et j'importe pas mal de clichés dont des gares (voir ma page utilisateur, quasiment orientée vers ça !). J'avais nommé la cat. ainsi sur la base de Category:Train stations in France. Horreur, un terme US, continuons de parler british english, tu as raison ! A propos, si tu jettes un oeil à mes ascenseurs, dis-moi s'il y en a d'autres. De mon côté, je peux éventuellement t'aider à éditer les cat. des images. A bientôt et bon vent à toi, capitaine ! Cordialement, ℍenry, encyclophile (Jaser !) 12:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC) En France (lol), je suis fr:Utilisateur:Henry Salomé.

La SMN à Caen[edit]

Bonsoir,

Finalement, de fil en aiguille, on se retrouve sur Commons.

Les photos de la SMN sont créditées Gregory Deryckère. Ou c'est ton vrai nom et alors, il faut que tu fasses le lien avec ton pseudo sur la page de photo ou sur ta page user, ou tu ne peux ni mettre own work ni mettre la license que tu a indiqué, peux tu clarifier.

Par ailleurs es tu l'auteur de ce plan de voie ou bien est ce un document de la compagnie , auquel cas il est sous copyright Oxam Hartog 22:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

By fil en aiguille you probably mean you thought you'd look at my contributin list to find if erros were made and sneak around... But yes, I am called Gregory Deryckère hence the name used in the author field, I always sign with my name rather than nickname as I am called by my name (oui j'ai oublié d'abasser le nombre de couleurs pour diminuer la taille de l'image) as well another hundred or so plans now present on the Commons, as noted the work is by meSource: Own work created the 3rd September 2006, I always anote these plans with English keys due to the international nature of Wikipedia. If my souvenirs are accurate, I create the SMN plan on my laptop rather my desktop. Why do you think I haven't created the plan, don't you think I can create such plans? I've on a few occasions been commissioned to create plans for articles! Image:Motorway 18 - plan.png as well as this one done this morning before leaving for work: Image:Leopold Square, Sheffield - plan.png, are also of my own doing, you will note the similarity in keying style.
My uploads of old photographs were done a fair while ago before I was aware of most Wikipedia rules, I am thanks to the tact of Antonov updating descriptions to avoid copyright and license issues. Cheers, Captain Scarlet 00:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok for the SMN's plan. In fact I remembered official documents of same style but when I look with attention, your doc is less detailed. As you are an fan of railway you could put on plan the beginning of the railway track to the mine de Soumont (the line to the south) which was worked by the CFM (Chemin de Fer Minier) subsidiary of SMN.
I listed your upload with the galery fonction which dont'n work at this time.
For your name, I think it will better if you have got a link between your name of photograph and your nickmane on the page of pic or on your user page especialy because it's possible to find also yours pics on this site with copyright mention. It will be better to assure a good traceability and conservation of pics in the time.
Sorry for my bad english. Friendly Oxam Hartog 01:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget that a copyrighted image is useable, it's its license that is the problem ;). the railway to Soumont is on the SMN's plan ableit unlegended. I have a lot of railway images on Vlaki.com BUT the ones I've uploaded on Wikipedia are 1/ a selection and 2/ treated. I've for long wanted to make a plan of the whole line but I don't have plans of the sidings at Smoumont. Captain Scarlet 11:56, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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A86[edit]

Thanks for the re-cat; it's not my field. Saying that A86 is not in Paris is a bit like saying that M25 is not in London, though. Arguably relevant to the Parisian transport. Cheers Eurocommuter 00:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

If there's a Category:Transport in Paris then go for it, but not 'Paris'. Incidently, I'll be making a detailled map that will probably obsolete yours. It'll be as my périphérique map with junction numbers, geographically accurate route; similar to other maps in the A86's new cat. Cheers, Captain Scarlet 14:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Gare_de_Toulouse_Matabiau_-_Detail.jpg[edit]

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Oxam Hartog 20:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Bonjour, pourrais-tu préciser si cette photo est bien ton œuvre personnelle ou si elle vient effectivement d'Art'Toulouse ? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
On Wikipédia Commons I speak English, I am not the original uploader as stated on the document's description, ask the original uploader for confirmation. You may however check with the sourced website which quotes: Copyright 2001-2003 Thierry Danard. All rights reserved - Distributed under GPL License. Captain Scarlet 09:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Catalonia[edit]

Hi, Captain Scarlet. Please do not take any actions regarding "Catalonia is in France or not", but please comment here: Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Disputes/Catalonia. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I was unaware of disputes concerning Buses in Catalonia and Railway stations in Catalonia, chers, Captain Scarlet 10:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. I'll leave peoples pages alone from now on. Sorry ChrisDHDR 14:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Cheers, the gesture wasn't rude, the edit summary was. Also, you can reply to my talk on your page to continue the conversation. Captain Scarlet 17:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Website stealing your photos?[edit]

I don't know how fiercely you like to protect your copyrights, but today I was following up on a site that was spamming Wikipedia (sheffieldhistory.co.uk). Although the site is really a forum rather than a site, I thought that you might be interested to know that the Admin has been posting a lot of your Commons pictures without giving you due credit. —JeremyA 21:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

What can I do? What paths are open to me? Captain Scarlet 00:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I almost forgot to thank you for telling me this! I do take theft very seriously, unfortunately, there is little to do so as to force the administrator to remove the photographs.
My suggestion (and what I am likely to do myself) is to contact the site Admin expressing pleasure that he likes your photographs but politely requesting that he edit his posts either to attribute you as required by the Creative Commons licence or to remove the photos. If that fails, there is a page with some sterner model emails somewhere at WIkipedia (I can't remember where it is, but I can look for it if needed) that you could try. Ultimately, if he is unwilling to comply with the licence of the photos then he has made a willful breach of copyright and you could theoretically take legal action. Realistically, unless you have a lot of spare time/cash at your disposal, legal action is not an option, you could however find out who his web provider is and file a complaint with them—whether that would do any good or not depends on the web provider.
I'm a little frustrated because it is actually the sort of forum that I think I would enjoy contributing to. However, at the moment I am just really annoyed with them—I went to the registration page and it has an agreement that you have to digitally sign stating that you will not post copyrighted material, yet it seems like almost every post contains copyrighted material, much of it just cut/pasted from Wikipedia without even attempting to meet the requirements of the GFDL. —JeremyA 00:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
That's exactly what I did. The admin tells me he was unaware of the legislation beind wikipedia. Whether tha tbe true or false he is willing to legalise his affair, how I do not know as it would mean linking and crediting each and every document or extract which for a bulleting board is hard to do. I have offered several options of which the two first are evident (truncated for the prupose of this post): comply with license or delete content. Captain Scarlet 00:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, I've joined the site. I plan to be friendly about it, but over time I'm want to try to make sure that the Wikipedia licences are honoured. —JeremyA 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
It looks like they've chosen to delete your photos, which is a pity as all they really needed to do was name you as the photographer and link to the licence at the Creative Commons. —JeremyA 17:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I've been in contact with the administrator since last night and he was pondering at the possibility of deleting the lot as it wasn't practicle for them to implement license constrictions, which is true, people nowadays use bulletin boards like websites, which they are not. I think they took the easy route, which is fine by me. Thing is, almost the entire forum's content of images is licensed... I see he's put some photographs of the tramway which from David I asked permission to upload on Wikipedia, I doubt they had the authorisation from him. These fora are a bit parasitic, they don't offer much, just conversations about how members want to change the world and rip off content of other websites. Nothing original comes from those places in all honnesty. Captain Scarlet 17:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
It looks like they forgot you when I mentioned GFDL: http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=151 as well as Victoria station. The whole forum is just a rip of content, I'm not impressed. Captain Scarlet 17:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
What was expected came. After a good 12 hours of pleasant conversation where progress was being made and removal of content, Neil the admin, broke communications and banned me. Far from me to feel offended since I despise this kind of website. I have no other choice than to begin the removal of all my image and sound content from the Commons as there is no other way at this time to protect my content. It is a sad decision to make but when persons such as the administrators of these websites decide to ignore legislation then affirmative action must be taken, sorry Jez! Captain Scarlet 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thus far I have found the Admin to be very amenable towards setting things straight. It seems to me that he genuinely didn't realise that he couldn't use the Wikipedia content without attribution, and now that this has been pointed out to him he seems keen to set things straight. I have offered to help identify all Wikipedia content that is on his site and ensure that the terms of the GFDL/CC licences are met. Hopefully over the next few days we can sort everything out. —JeremyA 22:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Same here at first, but this changed when he no longer corresponded. I'm afraid that as stubborn as I am. Any content that isn't his will be traced and authors informed, just as ou did with me. I hold grudges very easily and stopping communication for no reason (I was for once the perfect diplomat) has made me incredibly irritated... I'll now have to haunt all foreign content, contact their authors, contact the forum web host... all this because I have found someone that thinks that taking content of the Internet (not just Wikipedia) is fine. I will however go foward and place a token notice message on all images I have uploaded on Wikipedia. You will unfortunately have to find alternative media for articles I have provided visual aid. It is sad that people such as Neil who think that online theft is ok, make people like myself, authors feel guilty for providing content in the first place! Captain Scarlet 02:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Uploads to Category:Icons_for_railway_descriptions[edit]

There are just images in Category:Icons_for_railway_descriptions/set_blue . Please don't duplicate. With greetings Augiasstallputzer 18:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I was unaware of the duplication. Indeed discussions on the template's page on EN led to there apparently not being any of this kind.~I apologise for the confusion, feel free to complete the en:Wikipedia:Railway line template#Catalog of pictograms. Captain Scarlet 18:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Your recent uploads[edit]

Can you explain your recent uploads? Please note that once you have released an image under a free license, this is irrevocable and as such we are not required to remove your images. If you have compelling reasons you want your files to be removed, please state them on Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User problems -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

All of my images have already been released under copyright and licensed that contradicts Wikpedia thus making them unfit to bare copyleft license within these walls. Captain Scarlet 00:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion request[edit]

For your purpose, the best way is putting one deletion request in all images. Use {{delete|User request|Images by Captain Scarlet}} and follow the instructions. Please note, that Commons community may support your request or not. Good luck! A.J. 09:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

On each image? Blimmey, that ought to be fun :p Captain Scarlet 09:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, you already had similar fun overloading all of them... Using the above template example allows to make one deletion request for multiple images. Regards, A.J. 09:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I can overload them if I want, I'm the owner, copyright holder of the media... I haven't released them in PD in any way. It is my right to upload any media by a new version, which is what I did. Captain Scarlet 14:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
And it's our right to use them in old version on terms of GFDL license. A.J. 14:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
No it isn't lol... You'd have to (in accordance to the licen) upload them under a different name to do that. Captain Scarlet 14:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
On what basis? A.J. 15:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean on what basis? Is that honneslty a question or do you really don't know? Captain Scarlet 15:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
That's right: I honestly don't know what law forces Wikipedia, Commons or anybody tu use what you call them new versions of your photos. A.J. 15:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Then you won't find any that doesn't. This is one way, but I want all my media uploaded to be deleted, I will find a loophole, a law, some copyright thing to get it al off. I've asked nicely for it to be deleted. Continuing to speak to me in authoritative tone won't help Ejdzej. who has more rights here? You who wishes to use an outdated version or me who's uploading a new one. If you have more rights than I, I'm going to feel even more compelled to get all my stuff off. Captain Scarlet 15:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't have more rights than you when it comes to copyright law, becase GFDL is for ALL. I cannot forbid YOU using my photos released on GFDL, so I consider the situation equal :). If you want to request deletion of your files, please follow this instructions. EOT. A.J. 15:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

A voice from Riva72[edit]

Hello! Can you please read this debate here: [1] and [2]. I am also fed up with the Commons and the Wikipedia and I have started to view these projects as extremely dirty.. Regards! --213.199.192.60 22:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I understand your frustrations with wikipedia... I so do... Captain Scarlet 14:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion request thing template whatsit[edit]

{{delete|User request|Images by Captain Scarlet|category=}}

You did not use it properly. Please read Commons:Deletion requests. A.J. 15:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The explainations are rubbish and I don't understand a word of them. Captain Scarlet 09:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Please do the following:

A.J. 09:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:PO 141TA.png[edit]

FYI: Image:PO 141TA.png is now put up for deletion (fixed your request). Deadstar 15:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Same also for Image:SNCF 031-130.png and Image:SNCF 242A1m.png. Deadstar 15:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Nice to see that after months someone's looking at this. Captain Scarlet 18:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Please take the discussion into account. Pictures are screenshots but definitly not screenshots in a computer game!--Pantoine 20:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
That remains to be proven and must be done in the deletion request. The image is clearly a render of a model. Unless any proof that these images are original content they are likely to be deleted. If you can prove that the image is original work it should be annoted with the software used for the render, Gmax, 3DSM, Ketchup, CAD... I note you haven't done so in on the discussion page and that there is nothing to take into account. Captain Scarlet 21:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Captain Scarlet! You know perfectly that this model is my own with my own textures and my own geometry!--Pantoine 21:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
No I don't and that's the whole point. Your creation of the model is not the reason for the deletion notice but with which software it was rendered with and thus what license to use with the renders and if such document is acceptable on the Commons and/or on Wikipedia. You are not the creator of the image since the image is a rendering of a 3D model. Captain Scarlet 11:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Error on Image:Boulevard périphérique de Caen.png[edit]

With this information from the DDE, the number of the four fist the and the three end road-crossing numbers are not good. Crochet.david 10:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Changing name[edit]

Hello, I want to change my name. Can I writing yours an E-Mail?


Image:Peak_Railway_-_Platform_ticket.jpg[edit]

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Image:Peak_Railway_-_Adult_return_ticket.jpg[edit]

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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Captain Scarlet!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

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2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 09:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


File:Arnold_Laver_Logo_29-03-06.png[edit]

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File:Grindleford station.jpg[edit]

Hi. You uploaded this image a while back, then later changed it to a request for deletion. This appears to have been reverted as vandalism - can you please confirm the provenance and copyright status of this image? Thanks. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

File tagging File:Grindleford_station.jpg[edit]

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Copyright status: File:Tramway de Rouen - Boulingrin 01-04-05.jpg[edit]

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File:A10 Aire de Héron Cendré.jpg[edit]

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TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 19:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)