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Thank you[edit]

Thanks for fix my photos of birds, regards!! Ezarateesteban 13:10, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Unused?[edit]

I wonder about this edit. Why unused? --MGA73 (talk) 10:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Under the 'implausible' part of the reasoning. The problem is if a photo of a misidentified item has erroneously been put into dozens of articles in numerous wikipedias, Commons does not have a clear, easy method of doing a single-edit bulk removal (or replacement with a correctly identified photo), so I had to use this work-around of deleting the redirect. - MPF (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Mapa pinus pinea.png[edit]

You should upload it with a different name since it is a completely different image from that originally uploaded by Patrol110.--Carnby (talk) 12:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

The old version is woefully inaccurate and very low resolution; emendation of inaccurate maps is permitted under the guidelines for uploading new versions. If I uploaded it under a new name, it would need editing into the numerous wikipedia articles the map is used on. - MPF (talk) 12:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
According to Polunin & Walters (and my direct observations) your version is inaccurate as well. The delinking editings are not a problem: they can be done in a few minutes (I can help).--Carnby (talk) 20:32, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
What's inaccurate about my version? It is derived (as cited) from the work of noted authorities on the species. Patrol110's version by contrast, shows it (because of the thick sweep of pen used for drawing) native across e.g. extensive high altitude areas of the Rhodope mountains of southern Bulgaria, where the species cannot even be cultivated, let alone occur naturalised or native. - MPF (talk) 22:16, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I think now is better:

Take a look at the description page; I have corrected also all the wikilinks.--Carnby (talk) 20:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Though File:Mapa pinus pinea.png remains highly inaccurate; the Bulgaria example I gave was just one of many errors, another is e.g. showing it as native along the entire southern and eastern Black Sea shores, which it isn't, and another is its absence from the extensive areas of inland Spain where it is native. - MPF (talk) 10:35, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
I have copied it from an Italian book written by a renowed botanist (Luigi Fenaroli). As far as Italy is concerned your version is inaccurate too: two of the most famous Italian pinete are that of Ravenna and Grado (North Adriatic sea), completely absent in your map; the pine is also present along all the coasts of Ligurian and Tyrrhenian sea, sometimes also on the hills in Tuscany countryside (I know it well, since I live there).--Carnby (talk) 11:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Ravenna, and the other Italian sites you mention, were deliberately excluded by Critchfield & Little: "we have omitted those stands known to be artificial in origin, such as the well-known forest near Ravenna in Italy" (Critchfield & Little 1966). The problem in determining exactly what is native and what is human in origin, for a species cultivated for over 6,000 years, is a tricky one; Rikli concluded that it can only be considered genuinely native in Iberia, the only area where it occurs widely away from known trade routes. This is supported by the distribution of its primary seed dispersal agent (Cyanopica cooki), also restricted to Iberia. - MPF (talk) 15:50, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Your map anyway says "Ancient cultivation and/or naturalised" and, in my humble opinion (and that of most Italian botanists), the Italian area with ancient cultivations or naturalised populations is too small.--Carnby (talk) 17:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
If you'd like to add some pink on my map as relevant, that would be helpful, thanks! - MPF (talk) 21:16, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
I have added Italian pinete in pink according to Fenaroli.--Carnby (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks! - MPF (talk) 20:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Eadweard Muybridge-related bird categories[edit]

Hi MPF,

Yes, feel free to rename them to whatever you think appropriate. There were more than 16,000 images in a single category to begin with, so I didn't bother deviating from the titles of the individual motion studies in the initial subcategorization, but we certainly don't want people placing images in these categories thinking their scopes are broader than they are. Thanks for the message!

Neelix (talk) 20:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi MPF,
A bot sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately, I've never created any bots and I don't know of anyone who could create one for this purpose. I'd also like to see the words "in the USC digital library" removed from all of these titles and replaced with a "Images from USC digital library" hidden category to be added to all of the individual images in these categories; there are a few rare cases in which some images in these categories are not held by the USC digital library, but creating sub-subcategories (like "Eadweard Muybridge's 'Storks, swans, and other birds' in the USC digital library" for the "Eadweard Muybridge's 'Storks, swans, and other birds'" subcategory) seems like a ridiculous way of taking these rare instances into account. Both of these tasks are too extensive for me to consider doing them manually. Do you know of anyone who is savvy enough with bots to do this for us?
Neelix (talk) 21:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Ardea cinerea map.png[edit]

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Thanks! A very old file from before the standardisation of sourcing details. I've added the missing info. - MPF (talk) 21:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

File:Unidentified bird, Gembira Loka Zoo, 2015-03-15.jpg[edit]

  • Thanks for the recategorization. Do you think Acryllium vulturinum is a reasonable guess? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
    • You're welcome! Yes, it is; I'll change the category - MPF (talk) 13:10, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
      • Thanks. I'll move the page. (And thanks for picking up the pied myna earlier. I knew I recognized the bird, but couldn't think of the name. It was in the avarium, so there were no name plates to refer to). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:22, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

File:Equisetum_arvense_growing_as_a_weed.jpg[edit]

I just found you -- seemly an expert about plants -- moved my uploaded file in 2014 to a file with the name of Equisetum arvense. I think it is a good chance to discuss with you. The plant Equisetum arvense form fertile shoots like File:Equisetum_arvense_fr.jpg, but my plants did not. They were indeed Ephedra sinica that I bought from a professional in Taipei. Nothing was sown then. If you agree with me, I would like to move the file back to the one with a proper name, or maybe you can help me with this. --KasugaHuang (talk) 03:12, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! Unfortunately, there is no Ephedra in your pot; if it was there when bought, it has died. The plant in the pot is readily recognisable as Equisetum arvense by its distinctive branching structure. The lack of fertile shoots can be explained by the small size / young age of the plant in the pot; fertile shoots are only produced by large, long-established specimens. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 08:37, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Special:Diff/154893241: removal of the ITIS link?[edit]

Curiously, what was the reason for the removal of {{ITIS}} from Category:Strix? The link looked sane, and the template doesn’t seem to be obsolete. Thanks. ⁓ [Gyft Xelz · talk] 17:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Because ITIS isn't a useful reference in birds (and also plants); its taxonomy and nomenclature is decidedly dated, and coverage poor, particularly for taxa outside of North America. In some other taxonomic groups, it can be a useful reference, so there is currently no justification for the deletion of the template overall, but it is best not used in taxa of Aves and Plantae. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Could you please add a note to that effect to Template:ITIS/doc? Something along the lines of “This template should not be added to the pages related to the subtaxa of Aves and Plantae because of (the above)”? I guess that’d be helpful to the newcomers to the field. (And even more so given there’s already a somewhat similar note regarding fish taxa.) ⁓ [Gyft Xelz · talk] 11:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Done! - MPF (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
This is good to know. Thank you for doing that. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:41, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Alcedo Atthis location[edit]

Hi! I don't see where do I add a location now on the picture... Anyway, it was taken in Tel Aviv, Israel Artemy Voikhansky (talk) 18:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks! - MPF (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

"Passer domesticus" on my table[edit]

How did you understand that the bird was male? (I was so near and could not say the difference with a female one... :-) Best. --E4024 (talk) 12:58, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Compare the head pattern with the plainer brown females ;-) MPF (talk) 13:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Which gull species[edit]

Hi MPF,

Do you happen to know the species of this gull (side view)? I think it is a very commons species, I am just gull-ignorant ;-) -- Slaunger (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Larus canus (Stormmåge), first-winter - I've recategorised them ;-) MPF (talk) 11:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. You are both fast and very helpful (as usual)Smile. -- Slaunger (talk) 11:16, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for interrupting again. Is this Black-headed gull (Chroicocephalus ridibundus)? -- Slaunger (talk) 11:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes! ;-) MPF (talk) 12:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you (again)! -- Slaunger (talk) 12:39, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Eurasian Oystercatcher[edit]

Hi for the third time today, MPF

OK, so I am becoming more confident now; I think this is a pair of Eurasian oystercathers (Haematopus ostralegus). Can you confirm that? Can you say anything about age (juvenile/adult) or male/female from the picture? I observed them at a lake about as far away from the coast as you can come in Denmark, which I think is slightly unusual, unless they were just passing through? -- Slaunger (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Ja! Both are adults; the sex differences are very small, but males usually have a slightly thicker bill, so the one on the right is probably a male, but not definitely so. The white marks on the throat of the left bird are the last traces of winter plumage (white half-collar in winter, all-black throat in summer). In many areas (including where I am in northern England), they commonly breed inland in summer, so it is not unusual for me; in Denmark is it less common, but does occur (map). They may be breeding on the flat roof of a nearby industrial building (a good safe place for them!). - MPF (talk) 17:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Hehe, thanks again, MPF. I had a look at the same database for observations accumulated over the last 15 years. This species has only been reported 5 times since year 2000 at or near the town of Viborg. I have just asked to get an account, such that I can enter my observation in the data base. -- Slaunger (talk) 17:50, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
A good find, then! Maybe increasing in the area. - MPF (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Swans[edit]

There may be a very good reason to 'de-localise' the Black Swan photos - policies and principles and all, but I havent seen an explanation somewhere... also due to the drastic reduction of numbers in the wild in western australia, the context is, in itself of interest. sats (talk) 03:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Because Commons has so few photos of Black Swans in their natural environment (95% of the Black Swan photos are of captive or feral birds), it makes good sense to keep them all together so they are easy to find. When the main species category becomes full (close to or over 200 pics), then it becomes useful to add further subcategories, but not until then - MPF (talk) 09:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
OK I happen to believe the opposite, but will leave your edit as is. Thanks for your reply. sats (talk) 11:08, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
The other option (done fairly widely) is (if they aren't already in it) to add them to Category:Birds of Western Australia, or to create a new Category:Anseriformes of Western Australia, to include all ducks, swans, etc., in WA, while retaining each photo also in its species category. - MPF (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the suggestion. The thing is with some species of animals, plants that are endemic to west australia that are now found around the rest of australia - like the black swan issue - eds from the heavier populated states in the east add their photos from their local contexts, to the point there hardly any in the local endemic context... this goes for a whole range of plants and trees. But thanks again for your replies. appreciated. sats (talk) 13:53, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

user box[edit]

Dear MPF, I have been trying to reach you with email, did you get it? Did you see this userbox Template:User Specadmin? Dan Koehl (talk) 23:42, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Yep, thanks! Replied now! - MPF (talk) 06:53, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Location?[edit]

The location of File:Tordo negro o zorzal entre las ramas.JPG is Aguascalientes, México. You're welcome. --Luisalvaz (talk) 05:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Gracias! - MPF (talk) 11:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Nyctiprogne[edit]

Hello my friend,
A contributor discovered Nyctiprogne which is a valid bird genus for which we sadly have no media.
But strangly, Nyctiprogne is a redirect to Chordeilinae which is a gallery showing 1 pictures of Chordeiles henryi + 1 of unknown species.
Clearly I would have suppressed the gallery without any doubt, but an admin (non interested in biology) decided to keep it.
Would you mind taking a look at Commons:Deletion requests/Nyctiprogne, please ?
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 12:06, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Liné1 - thanks! Normally an empty gallery would just get deleted, but it doesn't do any harm being left as a redirect so I'm not greatly bothered by its being kept. But more usefully, I just found a pic of one of the two species on biodiversity heritage library (a pd-old license painting), so I'll upload that later today, and then convert the redirect into a proper gallery. Just off out birding now, so it'll be in 2 or 3 hours before I do so. - MPF (talk) 13:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
You rock my friend.
Because clearly, Nyctiprogne showing Chordeiles henryi botheres me a lot.
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Location?[edit]

Hi Wmpearl - do you have a photo location for File:Setophaga aestiva.JPG, please? Also for any other bird pics without locations ;-) Thanks! - MPF (talk) 15:31, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The picture was taken on the Galápagos Islands, but I don't remember which island. Wmpearl (talk) 17:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! That makes it Setophaga petechia; I'll rename the file - MPF (talk) 19:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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I checked the image source and it is cc-by-3.0 license (as expected for PLOS-ONE material), so I've restored the files and corrected the missing license details - MPF (talk) 08:05, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Much obliged! :) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 16:42, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

English vernacular names and the uppercases[edit]

Hi MPF, can you help me a bit please? in English when must I put uppercases in the vernacular names:

  • Order : Bucerotiformes (Hornbills, hoopoe and wood hoopoes)
  • Order : Bucerotiformes (Hornbills, Hoopoe and Wood hoopoes)
  • Order : Bucerotiformes (Hornbills, Hoopoe and Wood Hoopoes)


-- Christian Ferrer 17:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Christian - the usual convention is upper case for individual species, and lower case for genera and families, but also upper case for the first word; thus: Hornbills, hoopoes and wood hoopoes. In the past there was just one Hoopoe, but now it's been split into two species, so "hoopoes" rather than "Hoopoe". Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 19:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes it helps me, thank you, you're friendly :) -- Christian Ferrer 20:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

add GeoGroupTemplate to better find images with coordinates[edit]

Hi MPF, thought [1] to be a service for all trying to identify and describe images. It helps to filter out those images that do have coordinates and can be localized by them. Sure, it does not make much sense for things that do not have a geographical meaning, it simply will keep the map empty. But people working on unidentified should be able to cope with. Now, I will do it the tedious way and put the template individually to the categories I'm interested in. (For me it's just a small number) regards --Herzi Pinki (talk) 07:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)