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Ich habe die Schnauze voll, dass das Mobbing der de-WP auch vor commons nicht Halt macht! --Steindy (talk) 21:01, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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File:Ferenc Ilyes (HUN), Artur Siodmiak (POL).jpg Beeindruckendes Bild[edit]

Bild des Tages am 22.01.2011. Gruß, --4028mdk09 (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! – Kindly regards Steindy (talk) 20:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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...Steindy macht sehr gute Fotos! Danke für deine Beiträge. Ich hoffe, viel Bildmaterial wird weiterhin folgen! Viele Grüße, High Contrast (talk) 19:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Hallo High Contrast, vielen Dank für Dein Lob! Sowas freut immer wieder. Selbstverständlich werden noch viele Bilder (nicht nur vom Länderspiel A:D) nachfolgen. Von beiden Mannschaften kommen jedenfalls auch noch einige Einzelaufnahmen der Spieler. So um die 50 bis 60 Bilder sollten es schon werden. Schade, dass die Bildbeschreibungen so aufwändig sind und dass der Commonist bei mir nicht funktioniert. Wenn Dir ein Bild besonders gut gefällt, kannst Du es auch vorschlagen... – Freundliche Grüße aus Österreich Steindy (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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Wow, die Bilder vom Spiel Österreich-Deutschland sind mal ein echtes Schmankerl, freut mich, dass du da dabei sein konntest. --Martin H. (talk) 11:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hallo Martin! Ich bin mittlerweile etabliert genug, um beim Fußball überall in Österreich dabei sein zu können. Ich habe ja auch eine Generalakkreditierung für die österreichische Bundesliga.
Es freut mich, dass Dir die Bilder gefallen. Ehrlich gesagt, bin ich bei einigen Bildern (Jogi Löw, Oliver Bierhoff, ...) selbst stolz auf mich. Ich denke, dass sich einige für eine Auszeichnung als Qualitätsbild oder gar exzellentes Bild eignen würden. Es kommt auch noch einiges an Bildern (Einzelaufnahmen der restlichen Spieler) nach.
Wie es weitergeht, kann ich aber im Moment noch nicht sagen, da meine Canon 50D, die ich fast aunahmslos für WP verwendet hatte, nach etwas mehr als zwei Jahren den Geist aufgegeben hat. Mal schauen, was das kostet und wie lange eine Reparatur dauert. Inzwischen habe ich leihweise die Nikon von Wikimedia Österreich (leider ohne Normalobjektiv), an die ich mich aber erst gewöhen muss. – L.G. Steindy (talk) 11:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, bei der Anzahl habe ich mich großartig verschätzt. Es werden insgesamt an die 200 Bilder (oder sogar etwas mehr) vom EM-Qualifikationsspiel werden. --Steindy (talk) 14:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

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Deine Kritik an meinen Fotos war noch sehr sanft, ich weiß, daß ich vom Spiel kein wirklich brauchbares Bild gemacht habe. Aber diese Kritik ist für mich konstruktiv und es stimmt, was du schreibst. Ich habe das geahnt und deshalb bei den Nationalhymmnen Bilder gemacht, die wenigstens unbebilderte Artikel bereichern können. Ich werde hier vor Ort zu unbedeutenden Spielen gehen und üben. Ich denke, das ist erstmal alles ne Frage der Übung. Meine Achtung vor deinen Bildern ist 100%ig Ernst gemeint, ich dachte, es wäre einfacher. Und ja, Technik ist nicht alles, das erleichtert die Arbeit nur. Aber Handwerk ist auch durch Technik nicht zu ersetzen. Ich bin übrigens kurz davor, bei WP auch vieles hinzuschmeißen. Aus anderen Gründen als du aber doch irgendwie vergleichbar. Es macht einfach keinen Spaß mehr an vielen Stellen.

Ich habe erstmal "alles" hochgeladen. Natürlich nicht alle Bilder, es sind nur etwa 10% übriggeblieben. Aber vielleicht braucht man ein Bild eines Spielers mal, eine Szene? Dann kann ich das rauskramen und bearbeiten, erstmal sieht jeder das Rohmaterial. Daß dabei auch viel Mist ist, weiß ich. Ich möchte aber mit diesen Bildern, die von WMAT bezahlt sind, keinen Schönheitswettbewerb gewinnen, ich möchte das investierte Spendengeld so einsetzen, daß möglichst viel dabei rauskommt. Deshalb bin ich auch einige Stunden durch die Stadt gefahren und habe alles geknipst, was irgendwie brauchbar sein könnte. --Ralf Roleček 19:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Ralf! Entschuldige, dass ich erst jetzt antworte. Ich nehme an, dass Du ja mitbekommen hast, was in de-WP wieder einmal läuft. Ich kann gar nicht mehr so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen könnte...
Was die Fußballfotos (und Sportfotos im allgemeinen) betrifft, musst Du Dein Licht nicht unter den Scheffel stellen. Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen. Ich kann gut nachfühlen, wie schwer es beim ersten Mal für Dich war. Wer es selbst noch nicht probiert hat, wird es auch niemals glauben, dass dies ein unheimlich schweres Unterfangen ist, das sehr viel Einfühlungsvermögen und Übung bedarf, weil es auf den einen und unwiederbringlichen Moment ankommt, edr ein Bild gut oder Schrott werden lässt. Durch das Mitverfolgen der schnell wechselnden Szenen mit der Kamera spielt zudem der Autofokus verrückt (ich kann ein Lied davon singen!). Weiters kommt noch dazu, dass die Bilder wegen der geringen Tiefenschärfe mit offener Blende am besten werden, was insbesondere bei großen Brennweiten zu minimalen Schärfenbereichen führt. Letztlich will niemand, der es noch nicht selbst probiert hat, begreifen, dass man selbst bei hellem Sonnenschein (ich hasse diesen übrigens wegen der harten Kontraste) mit ISO 100 keine guten Bilder machen kann, weil die Verschlusszeit zu lang ist. Wenns optimal ist, muss man mindestens auf ISO 400 gehen, im Regelfall aber mit ISO 800 oder 1600 arbeiten müssen. Die Pixelzähler kritisieren dann das Bildrauschen, das (sofern man nicht extreme Ausschnitte macht) jedoch weder beim Ausdrucken, noch im Druck stört. Der Bildredakteur wird sich auch nie am Bildrauschen orientieren, sondern ausschließlich daran, ob das Bild die entscheidende Szene zeigt. Übrigens, wie auch die Fußball-EM zeigt, hast Du selbst beim Mannschaftsfoto im Regelfall maximal ein bis zwei Sekunden Zeit, um abzudrücken, denn meist steht der erste Spieler schon wieder auf, ehe sich der letzte richtig positioniert hat.
Es mag jetzt nach Eigenlob klingen, aber ich sehe Woche für Woche in den Stadien, dass die Profis trotz wesentlich besserer Ausrüstung auch nur mit Wasser kochen und dass ich mich für meine Bilder gegenüber diesen nicht verstecken brauche. Insbesondere von Tageszeitungen werden oft Mini-Ausschnitte zum (Raster-)Druck verwendet, weil sie eben die entscheidende Szene zeigen. Zudem ist es so, dass ich mit einem Profi, der eine Ein-Mann-Agentur betreibt, besonders gut befreundet bin und diesem immer wieder mal Bilder von Spielen gebe, wo dieser nicht dabei war und diese werden von ohm mit Handkuss genommen. Auch wird von Verlagen, Zeitungsredaktionen, aber auch Internetseitenbetreibern und sogar vom ORF immer wieder gerne auf meine BIlder zugegriffen. Erst vor zwei Wochen ist wieder ein Buch mit zahlreichen WP-Bildern, aber auch nicht-WP-Bildern von mir erschienen. Ebenfalls vor zwei Wochen wurde ich, wie an den Bildern ersichtlich ist, vom ÖFB gebeten, die offiziellen Bilder von den Spielern der U-21-Nationalmannschaft zu machen. Das sind auch jene Erfolge, die für mich zählen und nicht, ob ein Bild von ahnungslosen Handyknipsern bei KEB ausgezeichnet wird oder nicht.:Falls Du weitere Fragen hast und es möchtst stehe ich Dir gerne mit Rat und Tat zur Seite. – Liebe Grüße Steindy (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there. Just wanted to let you know that your picture of Vegar Eggen Hedenstad will be on the main page this afternoon, in the Did you know? section. Keep up the good work with photographing footballers. Cheers, 188.148.28.129 14:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information! I'll try to keep on my work ;-) – Cheers Steindy (talk) 14:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 07:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Avocato! Nice greetings Steindy (talk) 11:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User:Steindy --Didym (talk) 16:09, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Steindy, locker nehmen, das ist nur einer von der DE-WP, der ein Schäuferl nachlegen will, aber ein Russ hat es ihm eh gesagt wie man damit umgehen soll. -- Bwag (talk) 16:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hallo Steindy, mit der Lizenz GFDL 1.2 soll es möglich sein, die Bilder aus der DE-WP fernzuhalten, vgl. [1]. Bwag (talk) 21:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Bwag! Sorry für die späte Antwort, aber die WP geht mir – zumindest im Moment – sonst wo vorbei. Ja, ich habe mir das MB angesehen und es scheint ein gangbarer Weg zu sein, daher herzlichen Dank für Deinen Hinweis! Den tollen Regelhubern der großartigen de-WP sei Dank ;-)
Ich werde das in den nächsten Tagen mit den Spielern der Fußballnationalmannschaften aus Bulgarien, Iran, Kanada und Montenegro (in Summe sicher 200–250, vielleicht auch 300 Bilder) gleich einmal ausprobieren. Danach kann ich immer noch sehen, wie das funktioniert und entscheiden, ob ich österreichische Fußballbilder hochlade. Ich bekomme ja, im Gegensatz zu anderen Benutzern aus A und D keine Förderung von WMAT... / L.G. Steindy (talk) 08:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
@Bwag: So, ich habe heute zahlreiche für die de-WP relevante Bilder unter der Lizenz GDFL 1.2 hochgeladen und werde in den nächstenn Tagen und Wochen zahlreiche weitere Bilder ebenfalls unter dieser Lizenz hochladen, da ich diese gerne den anderen Projekten außer der de-WP, aber auch Fremdnutzern zur Verfügung stelle. Ich möchte Dich ersuchen, solche Bilder, sofern sie in Artikeln der de-WP verwendet werden, unter Hinweis auf das de:Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/GFDL 1.2-only für Dateien zu entfernen. / Vielen Dank und l.G. Steindy (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh, das wird schwierig *g*. Bwag (talk) 21:36, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Gratulation zu dieser wirklich cleveren Lösung. Steindy, dir ist sicher bewusst dass deine "Fremdnutzer" bei einer Nutzung in einem Printmedium den vollen Lizenztext abdrucken müssen? Finde ich persönlich nämlich an den GFDL-Lizenzen nicht so praktisch.    FDMS  4    00:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Wooow @FDMS4: – Ich habe in Ihnen jetzt auch hier einen Aufpasser gefunden. Welche Ehre! Es ist immer schön, wenn Jungen, die noch nicht grün hinter den Ohren sind, auf einen Senior, der Ihr Großvater sein könnte, aufpassen...
Ganz abgesehen, dass es meine Angelegenheit ist, wie ich meine Bilder lizenziere, ist es auch meine Angelegenheit wie ich meine Bilder immer wieder weitergebe; nämlich auf Anfrage direkt und ohne jegliche Lizenzen und Abzocke. Urheber bleibe nämlich noch immer ich! Und mir liegt nichts ferner, als in Druckwerken durch meine Leistungen auch noch Werbung für WP zu betreiben. Compris? --Steindy (talk) 23:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for add pictures of Iranian player! Abiii13wp (talk) 18:22, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! It was a great pleasure and honor for me to photograph the Iranian players. Regards --Steindy (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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You are a poor poor boy[edit]

Español: Has sido tan mala persona conmigo que solamente puedo preguntar: ¿A ver como me jodes ahora que ya no tengo nada propuesto?

--Miguel Bugallo (Lmbuga) 20:54, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

ursprüngliche Version[edit]

Español: Has sido tan mala persona conmigo que solamente puedo preguntar: ¿A ver como me jodes ahora que ya no tengo nada propuesto?

¿Se trata de que yo vaya a por ti? ¿Se trata de que tú vayas a por mí?

A mi no me importa aportar imágenes. A mi me puede importar señalar a un cabrón hijo de puta y gilipollas. Tu mismo.

Por lo que a mi respeta, no hay tregua. Sube muy buenas imágenes o las comentaré por no ser muy buenas. MISERABLE

--Miguel Bugallo (Lmbuga) 20:54, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

English: You have been so bad person to me that I can only ask: See how I fuck now that I no longer have anything proposed?
Is it that I go to for you? Is it that you go for me?
I would not mind contributing images. A can import my draw me a bastard son of a bitch and asshole. Yourself.
As my respects, no truce. Upload very good pictures or comment on not being very good. MISERABLE
Deutsch: Sie haben mir war es so schlechter Mensch, dass ich nur fragen: Sehen Sie, wie ich ficken jetzt, dass ich nichts mehr vorgeschlagen?
Ist es, dass ich gehen, um für Sie? Ist es, dass du für mich zu gehen?
Ich hätte nichts dagegen trägt Bilder. A kann meine Unentschieden mir eine uneheliche Sohn einer Hündin und Arschloch zu importieren. Yourself.
Wie meinen Respekt, ohne Waffenstillstand. Laden Sie sehr gute Bilder oder kommentieren nicht sehr gut. MISERABLE
Übersetzungen eingefügt von --Steindy (talk) 21:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

QI Image promotion[edit]

Español: Tus imágenes QI, por desgracia para Wikimedia son generalmente malas. Vulgarmente podríase decir que una mierda, pro no me atrevo a tanto

Beitrag von User:Lmbuga 2. Dezember 2014, 22:59:39 Uhr

English: Your images QI, unfortunately for Wikimedia are generally bad. Commonly an objector say shit, pro dare not both.
Deutsch: Ihre Bilder QI leider für Wikimedia sind in der Regel schlecht. Häufig ein Verweigerer sagen, Scheiße, pro wagen nicht beides
übersetzt von --Steindy (talk) 21:23, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Offener Brief an Herrn Savin[edit]

Werter Herr @A.Savin:!

Wie ich sehe, setzen Sie Ihr Verhalten, das Sie seinerzeit in der de-WP an den Tag gelegt haben, auf commons nahtlos fort. Mit dieser Sperre sind Sie diesmal zu weit gegangen. Aufgrund Ihrer Stellungnahmen auf . Es ist nachgerade erheiternd, dass positive Voten von Ihnen als „Intimidation/harassment“ gewertet werden. Auch Ihre weitere Sperrbegründungen „heavy abuse of QIC process“ und „edit warring“ ist völlig haltlos, da ich ausschließlich positive Stimmen abgegeben habe und von mir gegebene Kontra in Pro korrigiert habe. Auch die Rückziehung eigener Kandidaturen stellt diesen Tatbestand nicht dar.

Es steht Ihnen auch kein administratives Recht zu, Kandidaturen, die ich eingestellt und wieder zurückgezogen habe, wieder einzustellen, wie Sie es bei File:Austria vs. Russia 20141115 (075).jpg und File:Austria vs. Russia 20141115 (078).jpg gemacht haben. Sie haben damit Ihre administrativen Befugnisse klar überschritten. Da dies im Rahmen Ihrer administrativen Tätigkeit geschehen ist (= im Zusammenhang mit meiner Sperre) ist dies auch ein Missbrauch Ihrer erweiterten Rechte, die in COM:A#Community role klar geregelt sind.

Auch die Einseitigkeit Ihrer Entscheidung, mich zu sperren und den Provokateur Livioandronico2013, der das Hounding gegen mich begonnen und mit zahlreichen persönlichen Angriffen auf mich fortgesetzt hat, laufen zu lassen, stellt einen Missbrauch Ihrer erweiterten Rechte dar. Sie sind als Administrator ungeeignet, wenn Sie die Opfer sperren und die Täter laufen lassen. Sie sollten sich bei @Yann: ein Beispiel nehmen, wie man das Adminamt ausübt.

Ich werde nach Ablauf meiner Sperre wegen Ihrer Befangenheit, die ich durch Ihre e-Mails mit den Beleidigungen und Drohungen in e-Mails vom 20.09.20214 und vom 24.09.2014 belegen werde, und wegen des Missbrauchs Ihrer erweiterten Rechte ein de-Sysop beantragen. Wie gesagt habe ich seinerzeit einen Admin meines Vertrauens zur meiner Absicherung gegen Ihre zu erwartenden Übergriffe mit Ihren Schreiben befasst.

Ich schreibe Ihnen dies bewusst hier, damit die nötige Transparenz gewahrt ist und jeder Benutzer mitlesen kann.

Grußlos --Steindy (talk) 23:13, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

ergänzt von --Steindy (talk) 23:27, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Du solltest dich nicht wundern, warum ich mich, was S1 betrifft, nicht einmische. Er hatte ehemals Hausverbot bei mir auf WP - seine Auftritte dort waren Legende, die dann in Folge zu seinem (erinnerlich erzwungenen) Rücktritt zuerst als Admin, dann zum Rückzug als WP-Autor führte. Das war eine der ganz wenigen Situationen bei Rücktritten von Admins, bei dem ich das wirklich ausdrücklich und nachhaltig begrüsst habe, weil tatsächlich Schaden dadurch abgewendet werden konnte. Von Anfang an hatte er auch hier auf meiner Disku Hausverbot. Das hält er auch ein, denn ich gebe ihm keinen Grund, zu intervenieren. Da ich ihn ja auch persönlich kennengelernt habe, weiß ich wer und was er ist. Aber wie oftmals beobachtet: Meistens ist es eine Form eines persönlichen Defizits, welche für manche Menschen das Hauptmotiv ist, Admin zu werden. Man muss sich halt die Frage erlauben, wieso das gerade dort passiert, wo eben Schaden angerichtet werden kann.
Was dich betrifft: A bisserl übermässig viel Temperament hast schon, net woa? --Hubertl (talk) 01:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Ersuchen um Rücknahme meiner Kandidaturen[edit]

@Moroder:, @Hubertl:, @JLPC:, @Berthold Werner:, @Hydro:, @Famberhorst:, @The Photographer:, @Halavar:, @Mattbuck:, @XRay:, @Alvesgaspar:, @Code:, @Christian Ferrer:, @King of Hearts:, @P e z i:.

Nachdem ich durch die missbräuchliche Sperre durch Admin A.Savin die QI-Seite nicht mehr bearbeiten kann, ersuche ich Benutzer die dies lesen folgende meiner Kandidaturen mit dem Kommentar „Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I do not like longer harass quality site with my hideous pixel garbage. Game Couterstrike without me!“ so schnell als möglich auf „Withdrawn“ zu setzen:

When I can no longer edit the abusive block by Admin A.Savin the QI-side, I would ask the user read this following my candidature with the comment „Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I do not like longer harass quality site with my hideous pixels garbage. Game Couterstrike without me!“ so fast as possible on „Withdrawn“:

sowie am 26. November 2014 die Bilder die von Admin A.Savin im Übegriff seiner administrativen Rechte revertiert wurden / also on November 26, 2014 the files which were reverted by Admin A.Savin in abuse of his administrative rights

Vielen Dank / Thank you --Steindy (talk) 00:22, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I think you should dedicate yourself to take simple pictures as static objects. If you want a sports QI need to buy a camera and lens too expensive, any other factor, is circumstantial. I do not understand how a photo at night in motion can be compared to a full light of day in Motion. I to some extent I agree with you, however, do not enter the field of personal attacks, you should be smart enough emotionally to not take the criticism personally, just understand that some judges QI, are not experts in sport photography. --The Photographer (talk) 12:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you are absolutely right @The Photographer:! The 2.8/400 mm lens that I had borrowed from Wikimedia Austria and my Canon 50D is qualitatively completely inadequate. Especially if an idiot as a photographer behind it, which has 35 years of experience with sports and soccer photos. And no, do the experts of good weather photos in the best light and static subjects are highly competent for judging what it says under floodlights with about 700–1200 lux - the stadium in Wiener Neustadt has exactly 755(!) lux[1] - to photograph fast sports. These experts also know exactly about en:Color temperature, en:Relative luminance, en:Chromaticity and others plenty of them. I give up, because it is useless to argue with those users who believe they have eaten the wisdom with a spoon. These users is to it at any time, to provoke others to incandescence. Anyway, thank you for your encouragement.
Can you please meet my above request? I do not want to bother you with my pixel garbage, the self-congratulation on QI. Kind regards --Steindy (talk) 16:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I have promoted some of Steindy's photos in the past, and I've declined some. Can't remember a conflict based on that. Maybe my arguments have been objective and valid. We have some judges at QIC which are definitely nitpicking and some, who judge images without having any experience in special thematics. That's rather unpleasant. I am sure that it is wrong, stubborn enforce the rules, without regard to the local photographic situation. It is a false interpretation of the rules. -- Smial (talk) 14:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your encouragement @Smial:! No, this fair-weather and day-league photographer, assess the QI are absolute experts on sports, football and floodlight Photos (colander to my above reply to The Photographer. These also have the right to provotieren such users with meaningful liberated comments to incandescence. They may be doing so confident that they are protected and not affected by a sysop. a special piquancy it that it just A.Savin who sent me already insulting and threatening e-mails is not too bad this is me to terminate under his abuse of enlargement of rights. This fits exactly to that posturing that has A.Savin S1 as shown in the German Wikipedia.
Can you please meet my above request? I do not want to bother you with my pixel garbage, the self-congratulation on QI. Kind regards --Steindy (talk) 16:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

References:

  1. http://www.noefv.at/noefv/resource/626180143050425480_1027876547790373476_t4eHDNR$.pdf Niederösterreichischer Fußballverband, Spielplatzverzeichnis]

Blocked one week[edit]

Vorgeschichte / Prehistory[edit]

User:Livioandronico2013 several personal attack and heavy vandalism[edit]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment 1. We, at AN/U, not interested to review tye merits of any voting at FP/QI/VI. 2. But I see some unacceptable/attacking/humorous/attacking comments at Commons:Quality_images_candidates/candidate_list#Consensual_Review_2 from both parties. This must be discouraged. Jee 03:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Some of those edits are simply responses to trolling by Steindy. The comment in question is actually a quote of User:Lmbuga who was already banned, not by LivioAndronico. Also, timestamps of edits do not imply how long it took to evaluate photos (e.g. Preload images in browser tabs). It also only takes seconds to find enough faults in many photos. -- Ram-Man 03:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
      • Thanks Ram-Man for the hints. Livioandronico2013 seems to be new user; so we can give him some considerations. But User:Lmbuga and Steindy are very experienced users and don't eligible for any considerations. I've little experience with Steindy; but User:Lmbuga is infamous for his bad language. Anyway it is better to block or even indef the old xxxs to make room for fresh bloods. :) Jee 05:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Je User:Lmbuga have certainly wrong to do so, but has often instigated by Troll as I could show before. However it is not a speech of experience is a discourse of education in my opinion. Anyway thanks for your comment.नमस्ते. --LivioAndronico talk 09:04, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I think, for this permanent kindergarten on QIC with ad hominem reviews, revenge votes and similar shit, which has now been transferred to ANU, all three (Lmbuga, Steindy, and Livioandronico2013) deserve a block of at least 1 week. Lmbuga already has been, so what about the other two? I'm gonna wait for some feedback by a third party, and if it is OK, I'll implement the blocks. --A.Savin 15:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree with A.Savin, this kindergarten on QIC disruptive. --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
A.Savin, see my comment above. You can block both of them if they made one more attack (here or in QIC). Jee 15:41, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • No need for more blocks in my opinion. But these two editors must comply with three simple rules which are part of QIC (and of Wikimedia's culture, in general): i) All editors have the same right to participate and express their opinions: ii) all opinions/votes have the same weight; and iii) image reviews should only address the pictures, never the authors or the reviewers. Considering that a block is to be taken as a protective measure, never as a punishment, I also believe that the block imposed on Lmuga is exaggerated. Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:59, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • There is no excuses for comments like this. This is not something we expect from a user who has more than 9 years here. Jee 16:16, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
A.Savin and why you should never stop me? I declined to poor photo (which moreover too often say that I do not do), and I was stuck and want to stop me? Steindy has quarreled with everyone and you want to stop me? incredible. --LivioAndronico talk 16:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Now Steindy is quarreling with Jebulon:

Nomination Zlatko Junuzović, player of the Austria national football team. --Steindy 01:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC) Discussion Please denoise the background, and crop out the hand, then I'll support.--Jebulon 14:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC) Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment 1. With ISO 1600 granularity is visible. This is perfectly normal. 2. Why should I distort my pictures? My photos are originals night the motto "what you see is what you get". It's about photos, not about who can use Photoshop or other programs better. Retouched photos have no encyclopedic value. --Steindy 12:39, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you want block him too? --LivioAndronico talk 17:06, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
This is the status of steindy on wiki in German :Blocked indefinitely. Reason: Kein Wille zur enzyklopädischen Mitarbeit erkennbar. --LivioAndronico talk 17:39, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I do not know the beginning of the story and who is honest here but to block only who seems the most impulsive and who lost its cold blood in the first one is in my opinion a severe punishment. What is the thing that made him cross the line? Maybe he did it alone, I don't feel that he is alone in this history. It is true that he often start clockwork, but if you keep your calm with him normally there 's no problem. Is it that the beginning? Only because Lmbuga made rewiews not in the tastes of Steindy? Me this is what I understood, maybe I'm wrong and maybe I did not understand correctly Steindy. But if I'm right the less I can say is that I'm not happy at all with the turn of things and of the block of the only Lmbuga. -- ChristianFerrer 18:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
    • @Christian Ferrer:, why do you speak out, if you do not know the cause of the conflict? Why you are not willing to read? More than my chronological listing and Difflinks I can not do that. The cause is the way in the first lines of my COM:AN/U. --Steindy (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Unfortunately, this type of user, cause damage and disease to the community. Such things have helped me develop my own emotional intelligence and observe how far I can get with my patience. I think it is a mixture of inexperience, lack of tact and spoiled. --The Photographer (talk) 18:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Christian: It is a heavy problem of pages like QIC, FPC etc. since long time. Many users meanwhile consider it as a platform for self-adulation and cannot tolerate any kind of criticism. Originally, QIC was an idea of teamwork and learning by doing of photography and postprocessing, and it had worked some years. But what we see now here is nothing but ruinous competition for top positions on lists like this one, with non-ethic behaviour and revenge voting. As for me, I'm not sorry at all to see such egocentric people be banned. --A.Savin 18:52, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
A.Savin Yes, I often think to delete my personal caregories (and counts of my images), it's hard to believe because I have very many categories and many counts of my images however it is the case :). For what I see here it's not Lmbuga who is not happy to see its images not promoted, he is just a hard rewiewer and he is only guilty of to have worse character than me. Of course the insults are not good, but I fully agree with you for not to block only him and that because I do not think he is at the origin of the conflict. -- ChristianFerrer 19:10, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • This is another personal attack by Livioandronico2013 (3. Dez. 2014, 19:39:43), because this has nothing to do with commons and Livioandronico2013 does not know the circumstances that led to this lock. It's ridiculous when a rampaging a user with administrator 28,375 articles and 1,649 created new pages holds „Kein Wille zur enzyklopädischen Mitarbeit erkennbar“. I am not shamed for it, but wear this with pride lock, as this shows what kind of act administrators in the German Wikipedia. This lock has therefore been recognized by multiple administrators to be faulty, why was recommended to go to arbitration. After I have therefore concluded with the German Wikipedia, I will not do this.
Since I prefer to let others speak numbers on commons: commonswiki 19.229 Edits and User Steindy has 7014 files – Total image usages 10697 – Distinct images used 3033 (43.24% of all images of user).
But you can send in those users who like defiant children behave and others pursue persistently protect as Livioandronico2013. As a result commons will help for sure and thereby commons certainly better. --Steindy (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

@A.Savin:, you can block me if it makes you happy. I hope that you can prove that

  1. I have instigated the dispute,
  2. I continued myself and how livio behave in the same way with a series of discrediting Edits,
  3. I (previously also Lmbuga or) have somewhere attacked or insulted personally Livio.

They should also not only compare pears with apples. The same applies for the Tyrolean colleague @Steinsplitter:. Your derogatory term as a kindergarten shows that you have dealt faithfully with the problem and its causes. Read Difflinks is probably not your thing.
You, mister A.Savin, should further think about your threats and insults with which you had bothered me undesirably on 20.09.2014 and on 24.09.2014 by e-mail and I forwarded as announced to my hedge an admin.
A possible barrier anyway I do not care, because this does not punish me, but commons. --Steindy (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

This was my last statement in this discussion. I'm going to get out of these discussions, in which I only speaks against a wall. I do not like this evening the evening go bad again. Good night! --Steindy (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

  • For what I see, I think Lmbuga is the one who suffers provocations and he was so fed up that he cross the line. I stand here because I personnaly attended one of these provocations : a nomination by Steindy where Steindy put a note (this nomination is for Lmbuga...) I don't remenber exactly. But I rewiewed this nomination, declined for good reasons and added a comment your note is stupid. So for me Lmbuga was harassed, he could not keep calm and react properly, it is his only fault. It is my point of view. -- ChristianFerrer 19:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Steindy to present your situation is NOT a personal attack but simply the truth! --LivioAndronico talk 19:59, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I fully agree with what wrote by Christian that is a wise person. I say and I emphasize once again Lmbuga was wrong to react like that, I would not have ever done. But I emphasize even more openly that was instigated several times and I do not find at all right that has been stopped and only him so heavily. --LivioAndronico talk 19:59, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Benutzer Livioandronico2013 durfte also weiterhin mit seinen Edits eskalieren und provozieren und läuft auch bis zum gegenwärtigen Zeitpunkt noch ungeschoren herum. Ich dagegen wurde nach dieser Meldung des Beiträgers Ram-Man für eine Woche gesperrt:

The latest changes seem designed to dodge the behavior requirement to prevent being banned, while still being difficult, if not outright hostile. At least one of those images that was "nearly perfect" has some obvious significant issues, and the reasons for promoting are not valid. I ask that an administrator revisit this and see if this qualifies the single offense that is grounds for a ban. Supports of obviously weak photos must go to CR where they bog down the review process. I suspect this is exactly the point (besides the inappropriate thrill of trolling snark). -- Ram-Man 22:05, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Difflink

Selbstverständlich war der mir gegenüber befangene Admin A.Savin, der mir bereits per e-mail vom 20.09.2014 eine Sperrandrohung samt persönlichen und nationalistischen Angriffen schickte schnell zur Stelle und sparrte mich mit folgenden Kommentar für eine Woche:

Inacceptable for me. With such edits, Steindy consciously damages the QI project and Commons. Reverted, and blocked the user for 1 week. Come what may. --A.Savin 22:21, 3 December 2014 (UTC) (Difflink

Für den Beiträger Ram-Man und den Admin A.Savin ist es also inakzeptabel sowie „Intimidation/harassment: heavy abuse of QIC process, edit warring“ (zu deutsch: „Einschüchterung/Belästigung, schweret Missbrauch von QIC-Prozess, Editwar“ wenn ich meine eigenen Nominierungen(!) auf QI zurückziehe und andere Fotos mit QI bewerte. Soll ich mich etwa weiter und über mehrere Tage dem Hounding und den persönlichen Angriffen ergeben, damit dies möglcihst viel Benutzer lesen, welch unfähiger Fotograf ich bin? Befinden etwa der Beiträger Ram-Man und der Admin A.Savin darüber, welche Fotos ich gut finde? Ich glaube nicht! Möge sich jeder darüber selbst ein Bild machen, welche Zuträger und welche Admins sich hier wichtig machen. --Steindy (talk) 18:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)


Message from Sysop Mattbuck[edit]

Steindy,

I post the notice above because, as a blocked user, you are meant to get one. It explains various things, links to policies, etc.

You are able to take good quality photographs - looking up at this page proves that. However the ones you nominated from the football game were generally not good enough for QI. Night sports photography is difficult, even in a well-lit stadium, and it is not a surprise that many of these photos did not pass QI. That is not a comment on you, but on how difficult the conditions are. However your behaviour these past few days has been unacceptable. To even imply that you vote will oppose others' nominations as a form of revenge is not how QI works. You have been around long enough, you should know that. I do not entirely know what your issue with Livioandronico2013 is, but I agree with them on the declines of your football photos. Not out of some vendetta, but simply because they are not good enough. If photos you, I or anyone else nominate are not good enough then they should be declined. We do not make allowances for how difficult a shot was to take.

I encourage you to take the time you are blocked for to calm down and return to Commons and to QI more mellow. Your fellow contributors are not out to get you, we all want the same thing - fun, recognition for our work, and to help educate the world. If however there are particular nominations you made which you feel the need to comment on, then I will convey your messages myself. Please just ping me and I'll pick it up within a day or so.

-mattbuck (Talk) 08:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Deutsch: Mattbuck, ich brauche kein Mitleid, schon gar nicht von Ihnen, wo Sie daran beteiligt waren! Das können sie sich gerne ersparen. Ich weiß, dass ich trotz 35 Jahren Erfahrung in Sport- und Fußballfotografie, davon mehr als 25 Jahre als semi-Profi mit Veröffentlichungen in Zeitungen, Zeitschriften und Bücher, zu blöd bin, gute Fotos zu machen. Ich weiß daher ganz genau, woran ich bei all den großartigen Fotografen die die Weisheit mit dem Löffel gegessen haben, auf commons bin. Ich werde QI mit meinen beschissenen Fotos auch nicht mehr belästigen.
Ich sage es an dieser Stelle nochmals. QI hat stupide Regeln und ebensolche Benutzer, die sich auf diese stupiden Regeln berufen. Diese geben Kommentare zu Fotos ab, von denen sie keine Ahnung haben, wie und unter welchen Umständen diese entstanden sind. Diese stupiden Benutzer lassen auch jeden Anstand bei ihren Kommentaren vermissen und werden dabei nocht vom Administratoren dabei unterstützt! Warum gibt es nur wenige Sportfotos auf commons?
Das Einzige, das ich von Ihnen wollte und weshalb ich Sie angepingt hatte, ist, die oben angegeben Files aus der Liste der QI-Wertung zu nehmen. Dem sind Sie trotz ping nicht nicht nachgekommen.
Wenn commons und insbesondere A.Savin meint, die jenigen schützen zu müssen, die für Stunk sorgen und dafür jene bestraft, die sich dagegen wehren, dann weiß ich bestens darüber Bescheid, was hier los ist. Livioandronico2013 ist sich auch nicht zu blöd dafür, mich mit weiteren Unterstellungen durch den Dreck zu ziehen. Oder wie soll ich denn diesen Kommentar auffassen?
Heben Sie die Sperre von Lmbuga daher auf und geben Sie ihm und auch Livio den Fotografenorden in Gold. Solche Benutzer, die anderen die Mitarbeit auf commons versauen, sind für commons förderlich und verlängern Sie meine Sperre am besten für mindestens vier Wochen, damit ich nicht in Versuchung komme, commons weiter mit meinem Pixelmüll zu belästigen.
Übrigens habe auch ich zahlreiche Eisenbahnfotos; schließlich war die Eisenbahn mein Hauptberuf. Mir würde es aber niemals einfallen, einen Zug von hinten zu fotografieren und dann zu behaupten, dass es ein gutes Foto ist. Züge fahren bekanntlich nicht verkehrt, auch nicht Wendezüge oder Triebzüge. Aber das sind eben die Unterschiede, die unsere Meinungen trennen. Im Gegensatz zum Fußball sind Fotos von Zügen nur dann gute Fotos, wenn diese in ihrer gesamten Länge scharf aufgenommen sind.
English: Mattbuck, I need no sympathy, especially not from you where they were involved! They can save you happy. I know that I do. Despite 35 years experience in of sports and football photography, of which more than 25 years as a semi-pro with publications in newspapers, magazines and books, I'm too stupid to make good photos. So I know exactly what I have eaten the wisdom with a spoon at all the great photographers'm on commons. I will not bother QI with my crappy photos.
I'll say it once again at this point. QI have stupid rules and just those users who rely on these stupid rules. These give comments on photos from, of which they have no idea how and under what circumstances they are due. This stupid user can also any decency in their commentaries miss and are assisted by Nocht administrators! Why there are few sports photos on commons?The only thing I want from you is that indicated above to take files from the list of standings. You have not complied with despite not ping.
If commons and in particular user:A.Savin believes it must protect the person you which provide a stink and punished those who resist, I know very well about it, what's going on. user:Livioandronico2013 is also not too stupid for to take me with further allegations through the mud. Or how should I interpret this comment then?
Therefore retaining the block of user:Lmbuga and give him and the photographer Livioandronico2013 photomedal in gold. Such users who mess up other employees on commons are conducive to commons and extend my best lock for at least four weeks, so I'm not tempted to continue to harass commons with my pixel garbage.
By the way, I also have numerous railway photos; finally, the railroad was my main job. But I would never think of it, to photograph a train from behind and then claim that it is a good photo. Trains depart known not wrong, not even pull trains or railcars. But these are precisely the differences that separate our opinions. In contrast to the football are photographs of trains only good photos when they are captured sharply in its entire length.
--Steindy (talk) 15:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Noch etwas: Sie brauchen sich mit der Verständigung über meine Sperre nicht wichtig machen. Dies wäre die Aufgabe von A.Savin gewesen. Der scheint dies aber nicht nötig zu haben...
One more thing: you do not need to make important to the understanding of my block. This would have been the object of User:A.Savin. He seems to have this but not necessary...
--Steindy (talk) 15:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Fine, be a dick to those who are trying to help. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:24, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Personal attack by Sysop Steinsplitter[edit]

zur Kenntnis: @AFBorchert:, @Cecil:, @Elya:, @DerHexer:, @JuTa:, @Hubertl:, @Smial:, @Berthold Werner:, @Hydro:, @Famberhorst:, @The Photographer:, @Halavar:, @Mattbuck:, @XRay:, @Alvesgaspar:, @Code:, @Christian Ferrer:, @King of Hearts:, @P e z i:.

Admin Steinsplitter ist sich auch nicht zu schade dafür, sich öffentlich bei A.Savin mit dem Hinweis meiner Sperre in de-WP zu bedanken. Abgesehen davon, dass er die Umstände nicht kennt, stellt dies einen persönlichen Angriff des Admins dar, da dies mit commons nichts zu tun hat. Es ist einfach unglaubich, was sich manche Benutzer erlauben!
Admin Steinsplitter is not too bad for publicly at A.Savin with the note in my block on German Wikipedia to thank. Apart from the fact that he does not know the circumstances, this represents a personal attack of the Admins' is because it has' 'no' 'to do with commons. It's just unbelievable what are some allow users! --Steindy (talk) 17:16, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I invite you to take a walk in the park, drinking green tea or soda. This activity is only made for fun and pleasure, you should not take things personally. Such situations do you only hurt yourself, it is important to work on your way to manage emotions. Administrators are humans, usually trolls or sociopaths, what do you think is the reason why they are admins?. In your case I would try to take pictures so perfect that nobody can criticize. And please, stop ping everybody, nobody really cares your emotional explosions. --The Photographer (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Damit haben Sie zweifellos recht! Es interessiert wirklich niemanden, wenn einzelne Benutzer von bestimmten Personen fertig gemacht werden. Man muss nur lange und oft genug provozieren. Ich bin eben noch in einer anderen Generation aufgewachsen. However, I see it as my right and my duty to point out such insipidities of a Sysop. Best regards --Steindy (talk) 18:31, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Okay, this escalated quickly. Time to cool down Steindy so I blocked your talk page access as well. I hope to see you back at the Commons in a more mellow mood after your block expires. I would appreciate it if the other involved party's take a break from this discussion and perhaps you can continue this discussion after everyone is cooled down. Natuur12 (talk) 19:01, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi alter Haudegen, jetzt hat Dir ein Spitzenfotograph das Licht ganz ausgeknipst. Aber was soll's und mein Senf dazu. Laß die Kirche im Dorf, nimm Abstand zu dem Ganzen und komm entspannt zurück. Gruß Bwag (talk) 22:16, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Das Bild zeigt immerhin mehr als EIN ganzes Auto. --Hubertl (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Steindy, da Du mich angepingt hast, nehme ich kurz Stellung: Nicht jede Reaktion auf QI und FPC ist nachvollziehbar, manchmal erscheinen Urteile auch unfair. Man sollte das dann ggf. in Ruhe ausdiskutieren, den Rat von Dritten suchen oder es ganz einfach ignorieren. Jedenfalls ist es keine gute Idee, seinem Ärger auf diese Weise mit einem persönlichen Angriff Luft zu verschaffen. Und diese Aktion verstehe ich ebenfalls nicht. Unabhängig davon ist aber eine Sache wichtig: Commons versteht sich als Projekt, das zwar mit allen anderen WMF-Projekten eng verzahnt ist, aber in der Beurteilung der Benutzer von diesen unabhängig ist. Von daher wäre die Anmerkung über Deine Vorgeschichte auf de:wp wohl besser nicht gefallen.

Ich sehe, dass Du sehr schöne Sportbilder beigetragen hast. Vielen Dank dafür! So etwas ist sehr willkommen und wegen (der immer wieder auftretenden) Meinungsverschiedenheiten bei der Beurteilung einzelner Bilder sollte man sich nicht irritieren lassen. Wichtig ist, dass diese Bilder unter einer freien Lizenz zur Verfügung stehen und gut beschrieben sind. Und das ist wichtiger als eine QI-Auszeichnung. Viele Grüße, AFBorchert (talk) 23:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Ich habe meine letzten Nominierungen auf QIC zurückgezogen, weil mir das Theater dort bis Oberkante Unterlippe steht. Zuviele Egomanen unterwegs. -- Smial (talk) 15:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
<eingeschoben>Hallo Smial! Ich kann dich nur zu gut verstehen. Dennoch meine ich, dass dies der falsche Weg ist. Ich werde meinen Pixelmüll dort erst recht einstellen, alleine schon, um die Experten der Schönwetterfotografie, die hauptsächlich zur Selbstbeweihräucherung fotografieren, mit meinen Schrottbildern zu ärgern. Daher: überlegs Dir doch noch mal... L.G. --Steindy (talk) 23:46, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Bitte verstehe mich nicht falsch, ich wollte dies lediglich angemerkt haben und dem admin danken dass das Drama ein ende hat. Ich hoffe dass du auch nach der Sperre weiterhin Fotos hochlädst, deine Beiträge sind willkommen und wertgeschätzt. Ich denke es hat sich soweit nun auch beruhigt und ich habe deinen talkpage access wiederhergestellt (hoffe der sperrende admin hat damit kein Problem). --Steinsplitter (talk) 12:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Werter Steinsplitter! Sie brauchen jetzt gar nicht Süßholz zu raspeln, das zieht bei mir nicht, vor allem nicht von Ihnen. Ich bin auch nicht auf Ihre Almosen, die Freischaltung meiner Diskussionsseite, angewiesen. Hätten Sie auch nur einen Funken Anstand und Charakter, so hätten Sie die willkürliche und missbräuchliche Sperre durch Ihren Kollegen A.Savin sofort mit dem entsprechenden Vermerk im Sperrlog aufgehoben. Auch haben Sie nicht den Anstand, sich für die Dankesworte an Ihren Kollegen A.Savin mit dem Ausdruck des Bedauern entschuldigen, ganz zu schweigen, von Ihrer unangebrachten Nachtreterei, dei mit commons nichts, aber überhaupt nichts zu tun haben und daher höchst fehl am Platz sind. Gerade als Admin sllten Sie sich für solche Ausfälle in Grund und Boden genieren. Wenn Sie nicht fähig sind, zu erkennen, wer dieses Mobbing meiner Person begonnen und fortgesetzt hat – ich habe dies bewusst auf meiner Diskussionsseite oberhalb nochmals dargestellt –, dann sollten Sie schleunigst Ihre erweiterten Rechte als Admin abgeben.
Wenn Sie glauben, dass die Sache für mich erledigt ist und ich jetzt beruhigt bin, unterliegen Sie einem großen Irrtum; gerade das Gegenteil ist der Fall und ich werde mir aufgrund Ihrer Nachtreterei, vor allem aber aufgrund der nationalistischen, beleidigenden und drohenden e-Mails und der damit verbundenen Befangenheit missbräuchlichen Sperre von A.Savin noch weitere Schritte überlegen.
Selbstverständlich werde ich auch ohne Ihre Aufmunterung meinen Pixelmüll auf commons hochladen, da meine Schrottbilder weltweit zur Bebilderung gebraucht werden und anerkannt sind. Im Gegensatz zu den Schönwetterfotografen, die sich gegenseitig in den Himmel heben und nur Fotos zur Selbstbeweihräucherung machen, sind meine 7128 Müllfotos weltweit 8426-mal in 139 WP-Projekten eingebunden. Und es wären noch wesentlich mehr, würde ich aufgrund meiner Sperre die de-WP mit der dort per MB verbotenen GDFL 1.2 Lizenz nicht blocken; wenn ich dort gesperrt bin, braucht man auch meine Fotos (ausgenommen jene von WMAT geförderten) dort nicht zu verwenden. Aber das wissen Sie ohnehin genau, da Sie ja meine entsprechenden Seiten/Vorlagen gelöscht haben.
Bleiben Sie daher in Zukunft meiner Benutzerdiskussionsseite fern – auf eine Antwort meiner Zeilen verzichte ich gerne – und machen Sie um den Benutzer Steindy einen großen(!) Bogen; auch Sie haben Ihre Befangenheit gegenüber mir eindrucksvoll nachgewiesen. --Steindy (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry--83.165.98.5 00:51, 13 December 2014 (UTC)


Thank you, unknown IP! But I have to correct, because I produce – it was found impressive as on QI – only pixel garbage. Kindly regards --Steindy (talk) 23:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Category:Austria vs. Sweden 20140908[edit]

Hi Steindy.

I saw that this category Category:Austria vs. Sweden 20140908, that was created by you, is empty. Are you going to fill it up with images or maybe I should put deletion request on it? Cheers. Dudek1337 (talk) 16:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dudek1337!
No, I was just not have time to sift through the images, edit and upload. I have also created not out of boredom the team rosters. Kind regards. --Steindy (talk) 17:53, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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The rules of QI is not required to add geocoordinates to photos. -- (talk) 11:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Jacek Halicki course it is not a must. Nevertheless, it should be a matter of course, and a service for other users. Or why do you think that you can not only QI, but in all the photos coordinates to specify? Regards --Steindy (talk) 17:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Your behaviour at QI[edit]

I do not have anything against you or your photos, I apply the same standards to everything I review. I am fully aware that railway catenaries are composed primarily of copper. I'm also aware of the difference between a reddish hue to a wire and purple/green chromatic aberration, as can be seen in many of your photos. Many other editors have also picked up on this, including Halavar and Christian Ferrer. These issues can be corrected fairly easily, but an image where CA is noticable should not be awarded QI until it has been fixed. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Mattbuck: If you do not mind my photos, then let my photos kindly at rest and save yourself your comments. You have to do with your photos enough. I'm not curious about this. Unlike you, I have given you enough Pro. But you are only looking for errors and alleged errors, even where none exist. A pro I have never gotten from you. Such behavior is unacceptable and uncooperative. And I'm not even curious about your comments on my disc. As admin, you should know exactly how to behave. So you only sweep before your own door and do not bother me further!
I shall therefore consider me if I think at QI would continue to provide "shitty" pixel garbage for discussion, or will only occur more than critics. For the moment, and my fancy in any case passed to it. Regards --Steindy (talk) 01:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have at no point called your images "shitty" or "garbage", in fact I have been perfectly pleasant in my reviews of your images, which contrasts with your behaviour towards me and towards other users who have taken the time to review your images.
You say that if I do not like your photos, I should not review them. That is not how QI works. We review images and, judging on the technical merits, promote or decline. Are you suggesting that no images should be declined at QI? I have promoted images I find incredibly boring and declined images that I absolutely adored - whether or not I "like" an image does not change its technical merit. I find it unlikely you have never got a promotion from me, but I honestly wouldn't know as I do not usually check names when reviewing. I should point out that when I was checking your nominations the other day, when this fuss started, I did check all of them, and there were quite a few I left alone which were at Promotion status, because I believed they were QI. Had I been the first person to look at them I would have promoted them myself. You say I look only for errors - that is more or less true: I start with the assumption that a photo will pass QI, then see if there are any reasons it shouldn't. Judging on technical merit alone lends itself to such a method. I further try and avoid declining an image where I think errors are fixable. The only reason I made the majority of my opposes was because the image was at promotion status when, to me, it needed some editing to become QI. I do not doubt that you are capable of taking QIs, and frankly most of the ones I opposed could be made into QIs were you just to fix the chromatic aberration. The aberration is not a fault of your photographic skill, merely a byproduct of refraction, and can be fixed without too much difficulty using standard image editing software.
I would request you reevaluate your attitude towards QI and towards the contributions of others. I have nothing against you, nor I suspect do Christian Ferrer, Smial, Kreuzschnabel, or anyone else who commented on your images. We have expressed honest opinions about your photographs, and told you how you can fix them. In return you have implied we are imbeciles, and now claim that we have a vendetta against you. Commons is not a battleground, and QIC is not a race to get as many images promoted as possible. Take the comments others provide and use them to take better pictures in future. I know that I have learnt a lot about photography and editing from my time at QIC, and Diego even dedicated a Wikimania talk to how much he's learned over the years. We all want to see better photos, out of pride and out of a wish to improve the quality of service Commons provides. Don't get mad, get better. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
So it is with QI about who has the better picture editing program or better can handle it? Said in confidence, I do not have Photoshop or similar program. I do not have anything to reduce the image noise and I will have no such program and I deal with it. To me it is enough to make a photo the portion you want to adjust the color saturation and if necessary lighten or darken it a bit. This is nothing more than what I have done for 25 years in the darkroom. I am already contrary to correct for QI converging lines, because it does not correspond to the natural eye. I retouch a photo, and certainly not for Wikipedia or Commons because fakes are not encyclopedic. Photos are under the motto "What you see is what you get!"
I photograph for more than 40 years, of which almost 30 years for newspapers, magazines and books and have also successfully participated in photo contests, but something like commons was to me so far unknown. I now know how QI and one or the other user is to assess here. Is hard to understand, therefore, that my photos are thousands of times involved in more than 100 projects from Wikipedia. Incomprehensible at such shitty pixel garbage.
Therefore, I will not bother QI with my photos and occur only as a critic in appearance. In this case I reserve which photos I rate and exactly how I look at one thing or another photo because there are few perfect photos; certainly not on QI. --Steindy (talk) 00:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
You do seem to be a good photographer - the photos you have nominated have been quite impressive for someone who doesn't use photoshop. But we must move with the times. Chromatic aberration may be unavoidable when taking a photo, but it is now very fixable. You don't need to use Adobe Photoshop, there are free alternatives out there (magazine cover CDs used to give them away, perhaps they still do). Just as taking a photo on film was only the first step to producing a photo, so it is on digital - photoshop is the new darkroom. I'm sure that if you could have done when you had a darkroom you would have enhanced the sharpness, reduced noise - what photographer wouldn't want better photos - that technology now exists. Therefore yes, it is expected that a quality image will be photoshopped in some manner. Photoshop cannot make a bad photo into a good one, but it can fix those niggling little limitations of SLR photography. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
I do not own or use Photoshop or Lightroom, most can be done in my Raw developing software, nearly everything else I do with irfanview and ShiftN. Only dust spot removal etc. is done with the GIMP. All freeware, but, ok, not all-in-one-solutions. -- Smial (talk) 13:04, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment +1 with mattbuck. Steindy, neither you nor me, we have the authority to say whether the images of some authors are to be avoided or not. I'm also a bit frustrated to see my photos of insects in CR and not promoted however it is the rules of the game and I will not assault you or nobody else for to have opposed my nominations. That said, that does not prevent me to say my point of view and to defend my images if I deemed necessary, remaining correct and speaking only of technical criteria. We have the right to chose the images that we rewiew, I use this right when I want and I see that you too :), no problems, more there are rigorous rewiwers better it is for the QIC page level. Just remaining correct and be polite, it's all. -- ChristianFerrer 06:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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English wikipedia says it's "Löw in 2011", but in Russian wikipedia it's "in October 2005". Perhaps they misinterpreted the (05) in the file name. Could you please confirm the year when it was taken? Thank you, Retired electrician (talk) 11:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Retired electrician! This is pretty self-explanatory. It's the recording date specified. The "05" refers to the photo of the person, since there is a whole series of Joachm Löw of eight photos. Regards --Steindy (talk) 23:01, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again! Retired electrician (talk) 06:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Einladung für den Jahreskalender 2016[edit]

Hallo, ich lade dich hiermit herzlich dazu ein Fotos (von dir) für den gedruckten Jahreskalender 2016 von Wikimedia Österreich zu nominieren, die 2015 hochgeladen und mit {{Supported by Wikimedia Österreich}} gekennzeichnet wurden. Gruß --Raimund Liebert (WMAT) (talk) 14:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hallo Steindy, hattest du statt GFDL-3.0 vielleicht GFDL-1.3 gemeint? Davon gibt es aber auch 2 Varianten, schau mal hier: Category:GFDL license tags. --Túrelio (talk) 19:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC) Hallo Túrelio, danke für deinen Hinweis! Ich hatte {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} gemeint, weil ich nicht wusste, dass die andere Lizenz nicht mehr gültig ist. JuTa hääte mich zwar auch – so wie du – anschreiben können, doch macht es ihr offenbar mehr Spaß, mir die Hucke mit den Bot-Meldungen so vollzuhauen, dass ich (alter PC) nichteinmal mehr eine Seite öffnen konnte. Das mach so richtig Freude und „beschleunigt“ die Korrekturen umgemein... Freundlichen Gruß Steindy (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi! I noticed you have uploaded one file under the same name some times. Please notice it is not necessary to upload the same file multiple times. It won't change the description! If you want to change the Image's description, please click at the file and then at the [Edit] button above. Commons:Licensing may help you to find a valid license. Thanks.

If you want to change the name of an image, instead of reuploading it as a duplicate, please use the {{rename}} template. Revent (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Re-reading the phrasing of this template, after a ping, I realize that it's horrible. My intent was to point out that a while back you uploaded a set of images (of a soccer match) twice, under different names, and ask that you make sure to just rename them instead. See File:ASK Ebreichsdorf vs. SC Wiener Neustadt 2015-09-22 (84).jpg and File:SRA Sebastian Gruber, SR Alan Kijas, SRA Stefan Pichler 4930a.jpg as a still-existing example. This was not, at all, intended as any kind of warning or anything. @Karl Gruber:, as the person who commented to me. Revent (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
@Revent:, @Karl Gruber:: Hello! Because I was pressed for time and had to leave to the next photo shooting I had when uploading the pictures forget to rename the files in Commonist. Some pictures I have even moved to the correct naming. However, this had the disadvantage that the file was maintained under original name. Why this is so, I do not know. Therefore I had asked the German colleague Martin H., who helped me sometimes, for helping already on 28 October. Unfortunately, my English is not so good – it's nearely 50 years whren I went to school – that I can read all the instructions that are on commons and also understand. I understand your anger, but mistakes can happen. Martin H. has not yet responded, so the error just been made. Above all, I urge you not to move the files to the one you wan name. I have the principle always to integrate with football matches and not on behalf of the game a player name or something more complete. Therefore, the addition in brackets (per example „ABC vs. XYZ (027).jpg“, „ABC vs. XYZ (028).jpg“, „ABC vs. XYZ (etc).jpg“).
It was my fault, okay. And I will correct it as soon as possible. Also, you will have already made mistakes. My mother tongue is German, your mother tongue is English, why commons is hard for me to understand, but easy for you. Therefore I believe, this is no reason to write me in this way. Regards! Steindy (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Eine andere schreckliche Google maschinelle Übersetzung. Es tut mir leid, dass es unhöflich schien, das war nicht meine Absicht, war ich tatsächlich versuchen zu vermeiden, unhöflich, indem Sie die übersetzte Nachricht. Ich habe lediglich versucht, darauf hinweisen, die Fehler, und daran erinnern, über die Möglichkeit, Bilder umbenennen. Ich habe nicht versucht, Sie zu warnen, überhaupt nicht. Ich ein paar von ihnen als Duplikate gelöscht hatte, aber sobald ich merkte, wie viele es waren Ich blieb stehen und links können Sie die Notiz, in der Hoffnung, dass Sie würde dann aussortieren, die diejenigen waren Gesuch und Flagge die anderen als verdoppelt sich.
I am very sorry that the message came across as rude, it was intended simply to be a reminder, not a warning. Revent (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
@Revent:, Apology accepted. I'm quite accustomed to the German WP to bashing (and also from your colleagues A.Savin and Natuur12) Face-bad.svg. As I have seen, they have already umbeannt some files on the name that I did not have; per example File:ASK Ebreichsdorf vs. SC Wiener Neustadt 2015-09-22 (69).jpg to File:SCWN30 5291a.jpg, File:ASK Ebreichsdorf vs. SC Wiener Neustadt 2015-09-22 (67).jpg to File:SCWN29 5239a.jpg or File:ASK Ebreichsdorf vs. SC Wiener Neustadt 2015-09-22 (61).jpg to File:SCWN06 5040a.jpg and so on. These are precisely the filenames that I had changed. I thought that with Move & Replace the original Fell name will be overwritten. I'll now anyway change anything and wait until my Martin H. writes an answer how to proceed. Regards Steindy (talk) 20:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually, that might have been my fault... like I said, I had deleted a few of the duplicates before realizing how many there were. I just moved the three that you mentioned back on top of the redirects, and left redirects pointing the other way. If there are any others that it happened to, feel free to point them out and I will fix it... on the ones that I had deleted, I assumed the version that had the person's name in the description was the intended one. For the other, still existing, duplicates, you can put {{duplicate}} on the one you don't want, and point at the one it should redirect to (or just wait until Martin can help you out). Revent (talk) 20:53, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. Regards Steindy (talk) 21:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Should be sorted now. I moved the names in the descriptions, and personal categories, over to the 'kept' versions as I went through. One pair weren't actually duplicates... they were of some action at the goal, and looked like they were taken a few moments apart....the tool kicked them out because they weren't 'identical', and I kept them both because they were visibly different.
The first one's duplicate had already gone away (it was image 60) so I moved it back over that redirect. Hopefully this solves everything. Revent (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay, many thanks. I'll look for tomorrow, because I want to bed now. It's 2 o clock in Austria... Good night! Steindy (talk) 01:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Help for you[edit]

I've just recognised them: Tuncay Şanlı source and Nihat Kahveci source--Sabri76 15:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sabri76: Thank you very much for your information. I've added the names und the categorys. Regards --Steindy (talk) 19:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Danke für deine Teilnahme bei Wiki Loves Earth 2016 in Österreich[edit]

WLE logo

Die Jury bewertet nun alle eingereichten Fotos. Die Preisträger geben wir am 31. Juli 2016 auf der Website wikilovesearth.at bekannt.

Bei dieser Gelegenheit möchte ich dich an die WikiCon 2016 Mitte September erinnern, für die noch bis 30. Juni Programmvorschläge eingereicht werden können. Wikimedia Österreich wird wieder Stipendien für die Teilnahme zur Verfügung stellen, genauere Infos veröffentlichen wir Ende Juni. Bei Fragen dazu kannst du dich gerne an uns wenden: verein@wikimedia.at. Liebe Grüße --Annemarie Buchmann (WMAT) (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Vielen Dank Annemarie! Ich habe aus persönlichen Gründen kein Interesse an der WikiCon 2016. Da könnten mir ein paar User über den Weg laufen, auf deren Angesicht ich gerne verzichten kann. Schönen Gruß --Steindy (talk) 15:02, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Editor in huwiki[edit]

Hallo! Unsere Bürokrätin hat dir Das Recht eingeschaltet! Viel Glück! Grüße, --Burumbátor (talk) 07:08, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Burumbátor, vielen Dank! Nette Grüße --Steindy (talk) 08:56, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Europa League FC Admira Wacker Mödling vs. FC Slovan Liberec 2016-07-28[edit]

Hello! The category is empty now. --Brateevsky {talk} 10:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I know. And soon there will be a lot of photos. Waht's the problem? --Steindy (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
OK! (It's just a notification) --Brateevsky {talk} 17:44, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
There is no notification required. I already know what I have to do. But I'll get back to you when I upload the photos of Terek Grozny. Then you can help the players' names I do not know to write it. --Steindy (talk) 20:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Logo FCM Traiskirchen[edit]

Anstatt sich über die berühmt-berüchtigten Nutzer mit dem A zu ärgern, die hier auch nur ihre freiwillige Arbeit verrichten und alle anderen Nutzer und die WMF vor Take-Down-Benachrichtigungen und juristischen Nachwirkungen schützen möchten, empfehle ich einmal, über dieses Urteil des Obersten Gerichtshofs der Republik Österreich zu reflektieren. Darin wurde diese Grafik als schützenswert im Sinne des Urheberrechts befunden. Abgesehen davon ist meine Meinung zu Wiederherstellungen keineswegs verbindlich, und darum habe ich in diesem Fall auch nicht sofort die Diskussion abgelehnt und dichtgemacht, sondern hatte auf Beteiligung von anderen erfahrenen Benutzern gehofft. Das nur als Bemerkung am Rande. De728631 (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

P. S.: Auch das hier, nämlich "nur" zwei Schriftzüge, hat der OGH als schützenswert deklariert. De728631 (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Zu Ihrer „freiwilligen Arbeit“ als (A) hat Sie niemand gezwungen, Sie haben sich darum beworben; also beklagen Sie sich nicht!
Sorry, ich gebe zu, dass meine Bildung nicht ausreicht um zu wissen was „Take-Down-Benachrichtigungen“ sind. Es ist bei mir immerhin schon mehr als 45 Jahre her, dass ich Englischunterricht hatte und mir dieses neumodische denglisch ohnehin ein Graus ist. Es ist daher auch kein Wunder, dass ich nicht weiß, was an dem Logo, das mir per Festschrit vom Obmann des FCM Traiskirchen persönlich(!) zwecks einscannen gegeben wurde, künstlerisch wertvoll und schützenswert ist. Die Übergabe war sicher nur ein Trick, um später klagen zu können. Und wundern Sie sich nicht, wenn ich gereizt reagiere, wenn in de-WP sogar eMails als URV(!) gelöscht wurden, mit denen ich die persönliche Zusendung durch den Obmann des Logos des SC Mannsdorf als URV(!) gelöscht wurden [2].
Da ich schon mehr als genug Zeit mit diesen Lächerlichkeiten verplempert habe, die mir jetzt woanders fehlt, gab es nur die Lösung, den Wiederherstellungsantrag zurückzuziehen. Ich lasse mich doch nicht zum Kasperl einiger Admins machen, sondern bin es sowohl auf commons, als auch in WP, gewohnt, produktive Arbeit zu leisten.
Die Bemerkung („Und Tschüss“), mit der Ihr Kollege Elcobbola den Antrag geschlossen hat, war ebenfalls vielsagend, welche Meinung so mancher Admin vom ach so dummen und ignoranten Fußvolk hat, das nichts anderes im Sinn hat, als das Projekt nur schädigen. Gruß zur Nacht! --Steindy (talk) 23:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Ich beklage mich lediglich über die zunehmende Tendenz, dass sobald einmal ein (A) in einer laufenden Diskussion etwas ablehnt, obwohl noch nichts endgültig entschieden ist, pauschal von Willkür und Missbrauch ausgegangen wird. Ja, ich habe mich um den Posten beworben, und bin gewählt worden. Unter anderem, weil ich hier ebenfalls produktive Arbeit leiste. Wenn man mit der Arbeit der aktuellen Wiki-/Commons-Verwaltung nicht zufrieden ist, dann muss man das ansprechen, und wenn das nichts nützt, soll man es meiner Meinung nach halt selbst machen, und zwar besser. Ich möchte nicht wissen, wie groß das Geschrei wäre, wenn alle Admins auf Wikipedia und Commons plötzlich eine Woche lang die Arbeit niederlegen würden... Das "und tschüß" hätte Elcobbola sich aber in der Tat sparen können.
Ich kann aber Ihren Frust verstehen, da man Sie bisher offenbar nicht richtig ernst genommen hat und auch nicht ausreichend erklärt hat, worum es hier eigentlich geht. Im Falle dieses Logos muss ich Ihnen nämlich leider sagen, dass der Herr Obmann da eigentlich keinerlei rechtliche Grundlagen hat, sofern er nicht persönlich die Grafik entworfen hat. Das Urheberrecht in Österreich liegt beim ausführenden Künstler und kann nur im Falle des Todes übertragen werden. Im schlimmsten Fall hätte also nicht der Sportverein, sondern der Grafiker ein "Takedown" (denglisch: herunternehmen des fraglichen Inhalts vom Internet) verlangen, oder gar klagen können, auch wenn der Verein sogar die Nutzungsrechte für das Bild genehmigt hat. Bei solchen Sachen brauchen wir daher grundsätzlich eine Erlaubnis durch den ausführenden Künstler, d. h. den Inhaber des Urheberrechts. Das mag unnötig kompliziert erscheinen, aber das haben sich nicht die Admins im stillen Kämmerlein ausgedacht, sondern es ist irgendwann mal durch den Konsens der Commons-Nutzer entstanden. Und, wie bereits gesagt, die Einschätzung zu der sog. Schöpfungshöhe der Grafik kam bisher von mir allein aufgrund der Beispiele des OGH, und muss gar nicht mal richtig sein. Ich hoffe, trotzdem, dass Sie sich nicht dauerhaft von solchen bürokratischen Prozessen abschrecken lassen, und weiterhin Ihre bisher wirklich produktive Arbeit im Sinne von hochwertigen Fotos und anderen Bildern verrichten. Einen schönen Gruß zum Abend aus dem Norden des nördlichen Nachbarlandes. De728631 (talk) 16:34, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Man hat mich nicht nur „bisher offenbar nicht richtig ernst genommen“, vielmehr erzählt jeder Admin etwas anderes und offensichtlich findet hier nur ein Schattenboxen statt. Es gibt keine einzige offizielle Richtlinie und jeder Admin hat seine eigene Regelauslegung. Und danach sollen sich die Benutzer richten? Ihr Kollege AFBorchert, zu dem ich aufgrund seiner überlegten Ausführungen an sich uneingeschränktes Vertrauen habe, hatte mir vorgeschlagen, dass der Obmann des Vereins dieses Freigabeformular an commons senden soll. In diesem wird explizit der Inhaber/in des (...) Nutzungsrechts genannat. Sie schreiben mir jetzt, dass der, der die Datei freigibt, der ausführenden Künstler sein muss!
  • Was gilt jetzt??? Urheberrecht oder Nutzungsrecht???
  • Wer erstellt solche xxxxxxxxxxx Mail-Vorlagen???
  • Wer erkennt solche xxxxxxxxxxx Mail-Vorlagen an???
Ich hatte damals schon Ihren Kollegen AFBorchert darauf hingewiesen, dass das Formular so nicht korrekt ist und auf den Urheber hingewiesen. Leider blieb mir AFBorchert bis jetzt eine Antwort auf diese Problematik schuldig. Verständlicherweise deshalb schuldig, weil sich selbst bei renommierten Vereinen kaum in Erfahrung bringen werden, wer letztlich der Urheber des Vereinslogos war. Und das erwarten Sie ernsthaft bei kleinen Vereinen?
Bei mir ist man deshalb an den Falschen geraten, weil ich selbst mehrere Vereinslogos entworfen habe. Beim Niederösterreichischen Fußballverband, dessen Logo von den Vereinen hundertfach verwendet wird, werden es vielleicht noch ein oder zwei Personen noch wissen, weil es erst vor etwa 20 Jahren war. Bei anderen (kleinen) Vereinen, wo heute eine ganz andere Vereinsleitung agiert, wie vor 30 Jahren wird es niemand mehr wissen. Das ist aber auch nicht problematisch, weil es mir (im Gegensatz zu manchem Benutzer, der commons als Abzockplattform missbraucht) nie in den Sinn kommen würde jemanden zu klagen, der mein in freundschaftlicher Verbundenheit entworfenes Logo verwendet. Ganz abgesehen davon könnte ich es gar nicht, weil ich mir die Entwürfe nicht aufgehoben habe.
Für mich war das Kapitel „Bemühen um Vereinslogos“ jedenfalls sehr lehrreich. Ich habe daraus gelernt
  1. es gibt keine einheitliche Richtlinie, es gab auch keine Diskussionen für eine einheitliche Vorgangsweise, ja es gibt nicht einmal den Versuch, eine einheitliche Richtlinie zu finden,
  2. jeder Admin legt die Gesetze so aus, wie es ihm gerade in den Kram passt, weil jeder sein eigener Jurist ist,
  3. jeder Admin macht das, wie er gerade lustig ist, denn löschen bedeutet Macht und die muss man gegenüber dem dummen Fußvolk immer wieder zeigen.
Und wenn man keine Argumente hat, dann kann man noch immer dumme Kommentare (siehe Elcobbola) absondern; deutlicher kann man seine Ignoranz und Inkompetenz gar nicht unter Beweis stellen.
Schöne Grüße in den Norden, --Steindy (talk) 19:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Die Richtlinie auf Commons ist eindeutig. Es gilt hier, dass nur der Inhaber des Urheberrechts (copyright) die jeweiligen Bilder lizensieren kann bzw. Bestätigungen senden sollte. Die Vorlage dazu gibt es leider nicht auf Deutsch, aber die englische Version des Email-Textes spricht ausdrücklich von copyright und copyright holders und "the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright" (der Erschaffer und uneingeschränkte Inhaber des Urheberrechts). Wie man das auf der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia handhabt, kann ich leider nicht nachvollziehen, da ich dort wegen des merkwürdigen Betriebsklimas nie richtig aktiv geworden bin. Dazu kommt allerdings auch, dass es zwischen den einzelnen Projekten, nämlich den unzähligen Wikipedias und Commons, durchaus Unterschiede gibt, was die Vorgehensweisen angeht. Das ist zum Einen durch die Nutzergemeinschaften begründet, die ja je nach Sprache der Wikipedias sehr unterschiedlich sind, und zum Anderen durch die jeweiligen Standorte der Dateiserver. Commons ist z. B. stark am US-amerikanischen Urheberrecht orientiert, weil dort auch die Dateispeicher stehen. Dennoch gilt hier auch der Grundsatz, dass alle Dateien auch im Ursprungsland für jedermann frei verfügbar und verwendbar sein müssen. Für lokale (!) Wikipedias dagegen, gibt es dagegen häufig ganz andere Richtlinien wegen der nationalen Gesetzgebungen. Unklare Begriffe helfen da dann natürlich auch nicht weiter. Ich sehe z. B. gerade, dass auf de.wikpedia nur vom "Rechteinhaber" die Rede ist, was immer das auch für Rechte sein mögen, obwohl gleich im nächsten Punkt von "Urheberschaft" gesprochen wird. Bei derart schwammigen Formulierungen ist es ja kein Wunder, wenn selbst die Admins ins Schleudern geraten. Bei alledem darf man auch nicht vergessen, dass bei all diesen Projekten selbst die Admins unbezahlte Freiwillige sind, die im Normalfall noch nicht einmal in Ihrem eigenen Land ein Jurastudium absolviert haben.
Ob einige Kollegen beim Löschen von Dateien Machtphantasien ausleben, wage ich zu bezweifeln, aber auch sowas mag es geben. Im Gegensatz dazu habe ich auf der englischen WP und auf Commons aber auch schon einige Verfahren erlebt, bei denen Administratoren wegen Missbrauchs der Lösch- und Sperrechte dieser Werkzeugkasten wieder entzogen wurde.
Gruß, De728631 (talk) 18:58, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Hallo De728631, in aller Eile, weil ich gerade beim Arbeiten (100.000 % eigene und panoramafreie Bilder zum Hochladen vorbereiten, für die ich glücklicherweise keine Freigabe brauche) bin. Wer erstellt den solche bescheuerten Mailvorlagen, mit denen letztlich nichts anzufangen ist? Auf der anderen Seite: soll man englische Vorlagen versenden mit denen der Empfänger womöglich oder sogar vermutlich nichts anzufangen weiß? Das wird wohl nicht der Weisheit letzter Schluss sein. Sie brauchen mir dazu auch nicht antworten...
„Bei alledem darf man auch nicht vergessen, dass bei all diesen Projekten selbst die Admins unbezahlte Freiwillige sind, die im Normalfall noch nicht einmal in Ihrem eigenen Land ein Jurastudium absolviert haben.“ Wie wahr, wie wahr! Dafür nehmen sich diese Leute umso wichtiger, weil sie mit der Verleihung der Adminrechte einen Löffel Weisheit und einen zweiten Löffel Unfehlbarkeit bekommen haben.
In Einem haben Sie aber absolut recht: mit dem „merkwürdigen Betriebsklima“ der de-WP, wobei dies sehr, sehr höflich ausgedrückt ist. Da darf ein Admin, der gerade einmal trocken hinter den Ohren geworden ist und der selbst nicht, absolut nichts(!) aufzuweisen hat, einem Benutzer mit mehr als 60.000 Beiträgen (mir) vorwerfen, „keine Willen zur enzyklopädischen Mitarbeit“ haben und diesen (mich) infinit zu sperren und Auflagen zur Entsperrung (zehn Artikel zu je 5 MB und jeder mit eigenem Foto) festzulegen. Und kein anderer Admin traut sich diesen zu overrulen. Da traut sich ein Mitglied des Vorstands von WMDE, das Projektmitarbeiter beim Vorstandsprojakt „Freiwillige gewinnen und erhalten“ ist, in einem Aufwaschen gleich acht(!) von mir erstellte Artikel mit je 25 MB mit der Begründung „PA in der Zusammenfassungszeile“ löschen, weil ich im Bearbeitungskommentar zwecks Nachweis den Namen des Admins erwähnt hatte. Über andere Vorgänge des Benutzermobbings will ich gar nicht näher eingehen. Leider „muss“ ich in de-WP aktiv bleiben, da ich meine Aufgabe nicht nur als Fotograf, sondern auch als Artikelautor und Artikelverbesserer sehe; dazu gibt es mit Bezug zu Österreich noch viel zu viele Lücken.
Wenn Admins in der en-WP oder auf commons die Rechte entzogen werden, so stellt dies wie in der de-WP lediglich die Ausnahme von dar. Ich wüsste beispielsweise auf commons gleich drei, vier Kollegen, bei denen das besser der Fall wäre. Namen werde ich jedoch keine nennen.
Schönen Abend noch! --Steindy (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Trophies_of_Association_football_in_Austria[edit]

Froztbyte (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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Auch wenn Du mir es vermutlich nicht glaube wirst: Das hier hat nichts mit unserer DÜP-Diskussion zu tun. Ich bin über Wikipedia:Dateiüberprüfung/Schwierige_Fälle auf diese Datei gestoßen und habe sie getaggt bevor ich überhaupt gesehen habe, wer sie hochgeladen hat.

Rechtlich ist die Sachlage jedenfalls eindeutig: Das Transparent fällt nicht unter die Panoramafreiheit und selbst wenn würde es dann einen Veränderungsverbot unterliegen. Für dei Veröffentlichung eines so massiv bearbeiteten Crops wäre daher eine Freigabe des Rechteinhabers notwendig. Und nein: Dieser Winkelzug ist ganz sicher kein Weg zur Lösung unseres Logo-Problems.

Nichts für ungut. // Martin K. (talk) 16:41, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

(BK)@Martin Kraft: Hallo Martin, warum fragst du aber nicht Werner? der ist doch jener der Transparent hochgeladen hat und außerdem die notwendigen Kontakte bei Salzburg haben dürfte. Steindy hat doch nur rausgeschnitten aus etwas, was du schon als nicht mehr frei bezeichnest. --K@rl (talk) 20:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
@Karl Gruber: Wie Du hier sehen kannst hatte ich vor dieser Datei auch das Ursprungsphoto getagt. Nur ist die eben im Gegensatz zu dieser hier nicht in Verwendung. Und im Gegensatz zur hiesigen Datei versucht auch niemand, dass Original-Photo als Substitut für das darin verabeitete Logo zu etablieren. // Martin K. (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Karl Gruber: Lasse ihn reden. Die ganze Aktion ist nichts anderes als hilfloser Versuch des Nachtretens von Martin Kraft. Im Prinzip ist es mir sch...egal ob das Bild der Fahne gelöscht wird. Ich bin kommende Woche beim Cupspiel des FC Red Bull Salzburg dabei um Fotos zu machen und ich kann Dir versichern, dass ich dort das Logo der Salzburger in bester Qualität fotografieren und hier hochladen werde. Wie absurd die Ansichten von Martin Kraft sind und wie er gegen den Strom zu schwimmen versucht, kannst Du übrigens auf de:WD:DÜP#Amokgelöschte Logos nachlesen (Beteiligung erwünscht). --Steindy (talk) 22:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
PS: Ergeht nachrichtlich auch an @Hubertl:, der punkto Urheberrecht jahrelange Erfahrung hat. Beteiligung auf de:WD:DÜP#Amokgelöschte Logos. --Steindy (talk) 22:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
PPS: Und Sie werter User:Martin Kraft ersuche ich hiermit, Ihre Diskussionen auf anderen Seiten, jedoch nicht auf meiner Diskussionsseite zu führen. Ich mag mit Nachtretern nichts zu tun haben! (siehe dazu auch den Beginn meiner hiesigen Dikussionsseite) --Steindy (talk) 22:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Habs eh gelesen, nur so nebenbei, manchen glauben nicht, dass Transparente auch als dauerhaft angebracht sind. Ich kenne kein Unternehmen, was die Transparente früher runter nimmt, bevor sie hin san ;-) --K@rl (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Wdwd (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Making a painting or taking a photograph of a copyright image does not give you the copyright. It will still belong to Red Bull - the image is just a derivative COM:DW. The only way to display such an image on a Wikipedia page is to upload it to the local Wikipedia under the fair-use policy (but that option is not available on all Wikipedias)
Machen Sie ein Gemälde oder machen Sie ein Foto von einem Copyright-Bild nicht geben Ihnen das Urheberrecht. Es wird noch zu Red Bull gehören - das Bild ist nur ein Derivat COM: DW. Der einzige Weg, um ein solches Bild auf einer Wikipedia-Seite anzuzeigen, ist, es auf die lokale Wikipedia unter der Fair-Use-Politik hochzuladen (aber diese Option ist nicht auf allen Wikipedias verfügbar)Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:37, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: Wollen Sie mir jetzt sagen, dass die Panoramafreiheit in Österreich plötzlich nicht mehr gilt? Ich verweise auf Freedom_of_panorama#Austria. Nach welcher Regel handeln Sie? Wenn Sie auf COM:DW verweisen bedeutet dies, dass hinkünftig keine Fotos von Fußballspielern auch commons hochgeladen werden dürfen, weil auf allen Trikots das urheberrechtlich geschützte Logo des Vereins und des Sponsors zu sehen ist? Oder müssen nach Ihrem Urteil die Logos der Vereine und der Sponsoren unkenntlich gemacht werden? Eine höchst bemerkenswerte Entscheidung von Ihnen, die zu riesigen Schaden für commons führen kann! --Steindy (talk) 23:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Logos are copyrightable. If the amount of logo in the picture is insignificant, then it is not counted Commons:De minimis. However a whole picture of a logo is not allowed. If you go over to en-wiki, you will find all the logos (over 120,000) are set up as non-free images en:Category:Non-free logos. You might get a better explanation from a German helper at Commons:Village_pump/Copyright
Logos sind urheberrechtlich geschützt. Wenn die Menge des Logos im Bild unbedeutend ist, dann wird es nicht gezählt Commons:De minimis. Allerdings ist ein ganzes Bild von einem Logo nicht erlaubt. Wenn du in en-wiki gehst, findest du alle Logos (über 120.000) als nicht-freie Bilder en:Category:Non-free logos. Sie können eine bessere Erklärung von einem deutschen Helfer an Commons:Village_pump/Copyright Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
@Ronhjones:, danke für den gut gemeinten Tipp. Sie werden aber hoffentlich nicht annehmen, dass ich mir diesen ganzen Text durchlese und diesen auch verstehen kann. Immerhin ist es schon mehr als 45 Jahre her, dass ich in der Schule englisch gelernt habe. Und wegen commons werde ich jetzt auch nicht mehr einen Kurs in englischer Sprache belegen. Dass es commons nicht schafft, deutschsprachige Hilfeseiten anzubieten, ist ohnehin ein Armutszeugnis; die deutschsprachige Wikipedia ist immerhin das zweitgrößte Projekt. Offenbar kann sich die reiche Foundation keine professionellen Übersetzer leisten... --Steindy (talk) 22:00, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Hallo Steindy, da ich das zufällig sehe, möchte ich das kurz kommentieren und hoffe, dass das recht ist. In Österreich geht die Panoramafreiheit auf § 54 Abs. 1 Z. 5 zurück, der sich ausdrücklich nur auf Werke der bildenden Künste beschränkt, die „dazu angefertigt wurden, sich bleibend an einem öffentlichen Ort zu befinden“. Das Trikot eines Fußballers wurde eben nicht dazu gefertigt, wie bei einer öffentlichen Statue sich bleibend an einem öffentlichen Ort zu befinden. Stattdessen wird es normal getragen und bewegt und ist nur bei dem öffentlichen Auftritt des Trägers vorübergehend in der Öffentlichkeit zu sehen. Die Intention des Gesetzgebers beschränkt die Panoramafreiheit also nur auf permanente Installationen an öffentlichen Plätzen – das betrifft insbesondere öffentliche Statuen und Architektur. Wenn bei einem Trikot das urheberrechtlich geschützte Logo genügend klein ist, dann kann es als Beiwerk eingestuft werden. Relevant ist hier für Dich § 42e UrhG: „Werke dürfen vervielfältigt, verbreitet, durch Rundfunk gesendet, der Öffentlichkeit zur Verfügung gestellt und zu öffentlichen Vorträgen, Aufführungen und Vorführungen benutzt werden, wenn sie dabei nur zufällig oder beiläufig und ohne Bezug zum eigentlichen Gegenstand der Verwertungshandlung genutzt werden.“ Wenn Du also ein Fußballspiel oder den Fußballer fotografierst, dann sind die Logos auf dem Trikot Beiwerk, sie sind gewissermaßen ohne besondere Absicht auf das Bild gelangt, da sie unvermeidlich waren, um den Fußballer auf dem Bild darzustellen. Wenn Du hingegen die Kamera auf das Trikot richtest, dann sieht das völlig anders aus. Das hat auch zur Folge, dass Ausschnitte aus urheberrechtlich unbedenklichen Fotos von Fußballern nicht mehr veröffentlicht werden, wenn diese sich auf urheberrechtlich geschützten Ausschnitt konzentrieren. Die oben von Dir gezeigten Fußballerfotos sind somit alle OK mit Ausnahme von File:AUT vs. WAL 2016-10-06 (001).jpg, das sich ganz klar auf das Logo fokussiert. Das Logo ist hier nicht mehr „zufällig“ auf das Bild gekommen. Selbst Fotos mit sehr gut lesbaren Logos wie bei File:SC Wiener Neustadt vs. FC Admira Wacker Mödling 2016-10-25 (18).jpg sind OK, da das (übrigens sehr gelungene) Foto ganz klar auf den Fußballer konzentriert und die Logos auf dem Trikot unvermeidlich sind. Viele Grüße, AFBorchert (talk) 05:28, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Hallo AFBorchert! Vielen Dank für Dein Statement. Ich weiß, dass meine Bilder in Ordnung sind – übrigens auch jenes mit dem Logo der FIFA, das ebenfalls nur als „Beiwerk“ aufgenommen wurde und lediglich einen Bildausschnitt darstellt –, da ich in den bisherigen 40(!) Jahren meiner Tätigkeit, auch nur annähernd copyright-Probleme hatte. Ich gebe allerdings zu, dass ich davon 30 Jahre nichts mit besserwisserischen Löschadmins der WP zu tun hatte. Auch das gelöschte Logo war deshalb keine URV, weil es 1. lediglich Beiwerk des Fotos, das ich extra bei der Datei angegeben hatte, war (Du, als Admin kannst es ja noch ansehen) und 2. keine Abbildung des Originals, sondern lediglich eine amateurhafte Zeichnung war. Du darfst mir glauben, dass ich von _allen_ Vereinen der österreichischen Bundesliga eine Freigabe der Logos erwirken könnte. Ich mache es deshalb nicht, weil ich es nicht einsehe, dass ich meine wertvolle Zeit für vandalistische Aktionen der Löschadmins versch... sollte.
Wie man anhand der en:Category:Non-free logos, die mit nahezu 121.000 bestens gefüllt ist, sehen kann, gäbe es sehr wohl Möglichkeiten, Logos vor dem Löschen zu retten. Admins der en-WP schöpfen dies ganz offensichtlich reichhaltig aus. Was tun die Admins der de-WP? Diese erfüllt es mit Freude wenn sie mit toitscher Gründlichkeit und höchster Correctness (ach ja, mit Wdwd mischt ein österreichischer Admin auch tatkräftig mit) die Benutzer vor den Kopf stoßen und in Artikeln vandalieren können.
Vielen Dank übrigens für Dein Lob betreffend des genannten Fotos. Ohne von mir eingenommen zu sein wage ich zu behaupten, dass ich eine ganze Reihe höchst qualitativer Fotos dieser Art WP zur Verfügung gestellt habe. Ja ich gehe sogar weiter, dass ich behaupte dass ich weltweit der einzige Benutzer bin, der reihenweise Fußballbilder dieser Qualität liefert, was sich auch in den Verwendungszahlen meiner Bilder ablesen lässt. Nur rede ich nicht viel darüber, da dies nur die Neidgenossenschaft der WP mobilisiert. Immerhin habe ich als Dank dafür schon ein schön gefülltes Sperrlogbuch, in dem sogar schon zweimal „infinit“ steht. Dass ich dadurch jegliche Achtung vor einigen dieser Admins verloren habe, ist wohl naheliegend. Für mich bist Du einer der wenigen Admins, die immer wieder (aber leider viel zu selten) mit brillanten Analysen und Entscheidungen hervorstechen. Das ist eben eine Sache der persönlichen Intelligenz. Grüße --Steindy (talk) 21:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
PS: Du darfst mir glauben, oder auch nicht, hätte ich das Logo der FIFA gezielt fotografiert, dann hätte ich dieses a) in weit besserer Qualität, b) nicht so zerknittert und c) in weit höherer Auflösung hochgeladen. So war es nur der Ausschnitt der Hand eines im Bild befindlichen Spielers. --Steindy (talk) 08:52, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Hallo Steindy, zunächst: Ich weiß, dass Du hochqualitative Arbeit lieferst, sowohl hier als auch in der Wikipedia. Es tut mir weh zu sehen, dass Dir nicht immer die Anerkennung widerfahren ist, die Du verdienst. Zu Deiner Anmerkung bezüglich des Ausschnitts mit dem Logo: Das spielt keine Rolle. Bei der Veröffentlichung der großen Aufnahme ist es nur Beiwerk, beim Ausschnitt eben nicht mehr und damit eine Urheberrechtsverletzung. Der Punkt ist, dass der Ausschnitt für sich alleine veröffentlicht ist und unabhängig von dem Gesamtbild urheberrechtlich beurteilt wird. Ich zitiere hier mal aus einem Urteilstext (13.03.2008 - 29 U 5826/07):
Unwesentliches Beiwerk liegt vor, wenn es keine noch so unbedeutende inhaltliche Beziehung zum Hauptgegenstand aufweist und durch seine Zufälligkeit und Beliebigkeit für ihn ohne jede Bedeutung ist (Schricker/Vogel, Urheberrecht, 3. Aufl., § 57 Rn. 6). Der eigentliche Gegenstand muss derart beherrschend sein, dass das neben ihm erscheinende Beiwerk ohne Beeinträchtigung der Gesamtwirkung des Hauptgegenstandes und unmerklich ausgetauscht werden könnte (Schricker/Vogel, aaO.; Dreier/Schulze, UrhG, 2. Aufl., § 57 Rn. 2).
Bei File:SC Wiener Neustadt vs. FC Admira Wacker Mödling 2016-10-25 (18).jpg beherrscht das Porträt des Fußballers das Bild, ein Austausch der Logos würde nicht auffallen. Bei File:AUT vs. WAL 2016-10-06 (001).jpg wird das Bild durch das urheberrechtlich geschützte Logo beherrscht. Wie das Bild entstanden ist (als Ausschnitt eines größeren Fotos) spielt da keine Rolle mehr. Viele Grüße, AFBorchert (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Hallo AFBorchert, ich brauche gar keine Anerkennung, ich würde mich schon glücklich schätzen, könnte ich in Ruhe meine Arbeit hier erledigen. Dies ist auch der Grund, weshalb ich oft sehr bissig reagiere. Du brauchst Dir nur die heutigen VMen betreffend Deines Kollegen und betreffend meiner Person ansehen. Anstatt meine Fotoarbeiten für WP erledigen zu können, darf ich mich (zum Schaden von WP) mit solchen Sachen herumschlagen, weil einige Benutzer Langeweile haben und sich Reibebäume suchen, anstatt dass sie Artikelarbeit leisten.
Nun, mein Herz hängt wahrlich nicht an diesem FIFA-Logo und Du kannst es gerne auch löschen, wenn Du der Ansicht bist, dass dieses gegen geltendes Urheberrecht verstößt. Was ich jedoch überhaupt nicht verstehe ist, dass wir ein Wiki haben, die zwar verschiedenste Sprachversionen umfasst, deren Zentrale aber in den USA sitzt, die aber verschiedenste Regelungen zulässt. Gerade bei einem Logo der weltweit agierenden FIFA müsste man doch annehmen (dürfen), dass weltweit das gleiche US- oder meinetwegen, wegen deren Sitz in der Schweiz, auch Schweizer Recht gilt. Denkste, einige Sprachausgaben, allen voran die englische (Logo in der en-WP), aber auch die französische, italienische, spanische, portugiesische, chinesische, russische, japanische, etc. verwenden völlig ungeniert dieses Logo für ihre Artikel. Wenn man also auf das Urheberrecht so strikt bedacht ist, kann und darf es solchen unterschiedlichen Auslegungen meines Erachtens nicht geben. Nicht anders sieht es übrigens mit dem Logo des FC Red Bull Salzburg und vielen anderen Vereinslogos aus. Irgendwie kommt man sich dabei verarscht vor. Nette Grüße --Steindy (talk) 20:42, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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Be glad "mister" Glad! --Steindy (talk) 07:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Hüttenbrenner[edit]

Hallo Steindy, danke für die Korrektur, habe ich da den falschen Spieler erwischt? Soll ich das Bild umbenennen? Danke und Gruß --Ailura (talk) 09:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Hallo Ailura, gerne geschehen! Ich vermute ziemlich sicher, dass es sich bei dem Spieler um Gernot Suppan handelt. Es wäre sicher gut, die Datei umzubenennen. L.G. --Steindy (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Ich habe den zweiten Namen herausgenommen, aber nach nochmaliger Durchsicht der Kategorie würde ich auch sehr stark von Gernot Suppan ausgehen, daher habe ich Kategorie und Beschriftung enstprechend angepasst. LG --Ailura (talk) 12:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Alles bestens! Ich habe noch die imagenotes hinzugefügt. L.G. --Steindy (talk) 12:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Akkreditierung[edit]

Lieber steindy! Ich habe eine Frage, hast du eine Fotoakkreditierung der Bundesliga? Wenn ja, wie komme ich zu einer solchen? Ich habe die Anfrage, ob ich nächstes Jahr für salzburg12 fotografiere, da wäre es nett, wenn ich auch bei Auswärtsspielen am Spielfeldrand sein könnte. LG--Werner100359 (talk) 06:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Hallo Werner! Nein, ich habe keine Generalakkreditierung für die BL, da ich nach der ungustiösen SG-Anfrage, bei der ich als Denunziant dargestellt wurde, keine mehr bekommen habe. Du musst den Weg über den Verein nehmen, der Dich als Fan-Fotograf für jedes Spiel akkreditieren kann/muss. Sprich einmal mit Christian Kirchler darüber.
By the way: Gibt es auch Meisterfotos von Dir und bist Du beim Cup-Finale in Klagenfurt mit dabei? L.G. --Steindy (talk) 08:42, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Hier sind die Bilder von der improvisierten Meisterfeier zu finden: Category:Meister 2017; Klagenfurt nicht, ich muss am nächsten Tag arbeiten. Fußballmafia ÖFB! :-) --Werner100359 (talk) 06:38, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Schade, dass es mit dem Cupfinale nicht klappt. Ich finde es auch idiotisch, dass man sich beim ÖFB auf das Haider-Stadion festgelegt hat; und dann noch um 20:30 Uhr an einem Werktag. Offenbar will man beim ÖFB keine Zuschauer haben. Aber Du hättest ja auch einmal müde zur Arbeit kommen können ;-) Das Meisterfoto habe ich schon zweimal eingearbeitet. L.G. --Steindy (talk) 11:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hello Steindy, we are aware that using the old installation method of VFC (via common.js, which you are using) may not work reliably anymore and can break other scripts as well. A detailed explanation can be found here. Important: To prevent problems please remove the old VFC installation code from your common.js and instead enable the VFC gadget in your preferences. Thanks! --VFC devs (q) 16:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@Steinsplitter:, sorry ich verstehe nur Bahnhof :-0 --Steindy (talk) 18:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Du musst irgendwie das Visual File Change / Perform Batch Task in deiner commons.js loswerden (bzw. auf eine neue Version bringen), weil sonst diverse andere Skripte nicht mehr richtig laden. Aber ich hab auch noch nicht rausgefunden, wie man das macht. --Ailura (talk) 19:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Da in deiner common.js nichts als eine sowieso nicht mehr funktionierende VFC-Installation war, habe ich diese gelöscht. Du kannst das Tool hier (VisualFileChange: “Perform batch task”, including the creation of mass-deletion requests, the insertion of tags or free text, and customized text substitutions) wieder aktivieren. --Didym (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Vielen Dank Didym! Habe ich gemacht. --Steindy (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Das sind keine freundlichen Grüße, Mister EugeneZelenko; Auf solche Grüße kann ich gerne verzichten!
Was soll den an diesen Fotos nicht passen? Es handelt sich um den offiziellen Spielball des Cups und um die offizielle Interviewtafel des Cups, vor der verpflichtend die TV-Interviews gemacht werden müssen. Also beides im öffentlichen Raum. Und das Transparent der Supporter wird bei jedem Spiel des FC Red Bull Salzburg verwendet. Offensichtlich ist es nicht gewünscht, mit qualitativ hervorragenden und professionellen Fotos beizutragen. Ich muss mir wirklich überlegen, weiter mit Bildern zu diesem Projekt beizutragen. Es wäre besser, sich um coppyvios wie ich sie immer wieder auf commons finde, anstatt konstruktive Mitarbeiter permanent zu verärgern. Wenn ihr von österreichischen Themen und den hiesigen Vorgaben keine Ahnung habt, dann lasst besser die Finger davon! Schön langsam reicht es mir! --Steindy (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2017 (UTC)