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:::::Bastian's [https://web.archive.org/web/20180830140108/https://tzovar.as/ personal website] has a CC0 1.0 indicator. The image has also been uploaded with CC licenses many [[File talk:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg|other times]], including on the [https://creativecommons.org/2017/04/25/meetcc-voices-global-summit-scholarship-recipients/img_9708-5/ Creative Commons domain] itself. I've updated the file page to make these sources more clear, thanks. [[User:Chamaemelum|Chamaemelum]] ([[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC) |
:::::Bastian's [https://web.archive.org/web/20180830140108/https://tzovar.as/ personal website] has a CC0 1.0 indicator. The image has also been uploaded with CC licenses many [[File talk:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg|other times]], including on the [https://creativecommons.org/2017/04/25/meetcc-voices-global-summit-scholarship-recipients/img_9708-5/ Creative Commons domain] itself. I've updated the file page to make these sources more clear, thanks. [[User:Chamaemelum|Chamaemelum]] ([[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Psychologist Guy}} Thank you for this explanation. If you're able to, would you be willing to forward the emails you've received thus far to <code>info-commons{{at}}wikimedia.org</code> so that administrators can take a look at them? — [[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span>]]</sub> 02:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC) |
:{{re|Psychologist Guy}} Thank you for this explanation. If you're able to, would you be willing to forward the emails you've received thus far to <code>info-commons{{at}}wikimedia.org</code> so that administrators can take a look at them? — [[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span>]]</sub> 02:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::Hi, I just want to give an update on this situation. The user who sent the emails to me was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belteshazzar Belteshazzar]. I have been in communication with the WMF as I complained about Belteshazzar. I can't go into too much detail here but I have had some serious harassment from this user off-site. 3 days ago Belteshazzar has been globally banned by the WMF [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Belteshazzar&diff=prev&oldid=1173765985], so his harassment and stalking is a serious issue and the WMF have taken action against it after I sent them evidence of what has been doing. I have been stalked by this person for quite some time on and off Wikipedia. He sent me two emails on a throwaway email address telling me my Commons uploads are going to be deleted. Because Chamaemelum was submitting photographs I uploaded for deletion I believed the emails were sent from this user but know I know that was not the case. I apologise for accusing Chamaemelum of sending these emails. I have had others look at this and apart from some similar editing interests, I do not believe Chamaemelum is Belteshazzar. I suspected for a while that Belteshazzar and Chamaemelum are the same user, but I now believe I was wrong about that. I apologize for the accusations, the user who was doing this to me has now globally banned. I am taking a break from Commons, so an admin can close this if they like. [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC) |
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Repeated stalking from Chamaemelum
I have filed two complaints on this admin board and got no response. I am being stalked by a banned Wikipedia user Chamaemelum. This user logs in every few days to target historic photographs I have uploaded 2, 3 or 4 years ago.
Examples: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. These are 8 examples, 3 others could be cited. These are all historic photographs I uploaded in most cases years ago.
There is no valid reason why this user needs to stalk my editing history going back between 2-4 years to make tedious edits to just prove some kind of point and harass me. I have sent emails about Chamaemelum's behaviour to the WMF as this user has harassed me via email. I am requesting that an admin asks them to stop this stalking behaviour on site here. I have asked them to stop but they do not listen. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Psychologist Guy: The eight examples you've given appear to be making minor improvements to the information summary and/or licensing fields. There are times that people will see an editor make a common mistake once and will then go through that editor's edits to search for instances when they've made that mistake, so that the content can be corrected. Based solely on the edits, that would appear at first glance to be what this looks like. That being said, you've brought up some fairly serious allegations that would reasonably impugn motive (i.e. e-mail harassment) should this be a personal dispute that crosses wiki lines.
- Are you able to provide a bit more of a history of this dispute, so that the Commons community can better understand what's going on? I'm having a bit of a hard time tracking the EnWiki origins of this dispute aside from the ANI thread, and I'm active on EnWiki, so I can imagine that it might be a bit hard to dig into for those who aren't as active there. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Psychologist Guy, I did not send any emails to you, or anyone on Wikipedia. I understand your frustration given that you think I am sending you these emails, but this is misplaced. I just checked in my own email, and I can see the IP addresses of senders. You could use this to verify that I am not the sender of the emails so we can move past this.
- Here are the steps, assuming you use Gmail (similar for other email providers):
- Navigate to the harassing email whose sender's IP address you want to find.
- In the upper-right corner of the email, click on the three vertical dots.
- From the drop-down menu, select "Show original."
- A new tab will open showing the email's raw headers / content. In this window, you will see a lot of metadata about the email, including various "Received: from" lines.
- Look for the "Received: from" lines in the header. The IP address closest to the text "by smtp.gmail.com" or similar will be the originating IP.
- Trying this on a random email, I got the IP and the following information: United States, Tennessee, Nashville, ISP: Selligent Inc.
- You should give this IP address information to an admin or WMF so they can cross-reference this against my IP address and location. This would verify that I am not the sender.
- Also, please share the contents of this email if you are able, or at least describe this a bit further. (It seems important; brought up in each of the three ANI posts.) Depending on what the email is, I might be able to provide quicker proof than an admin IP cross-reference.
- The two unrelated users who replied to the previous posts ([8][9]), including an admin, said my actions on commons were "OK" and not "problematic." These are similar to responses to Psychologist Guy's other comments elsewhere: [10][11][12]
- I am actually sorry for how the fixes came across to you since you believed I sent you emails. Those simple edits weren't me stalking you: "Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles."
- To me, the following is closer to stalking/harassment than fixing a few minor mistakes:
- Nominating multiple files I created for deletion under improper rationale,
- saying [13] my simple edits are "creepy stalking," that I "obviously have nothing to do," and that my deletion request of a non-public domain image is "wasn't created in good faith" to "target [you],"
- saying [14] that a clear deletion nomination was "out of revenge," and that uploading an example of what a CC tag on YouTube looks like is "harassment,"
- repeating [15] the "in revenge" comment on enwiki, and saying you believe my graphs [16] aren't really my own work while linking to one of these graphs on enwiki.
- Chamaemelum (talk) 05:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Red-tailed hawk in short, Chamaemelum is a community-banned Wikipedia user who I had some history with because like many other users I found their disruption problematic. The user was only on Wikipedia for 3 months before being banned but as others stated it was obviously not a new account. You can see from above that they have a lot of experience with Wikis.
- A copyright investigation was filed against them [17] and I volunteered on WP:FTN to help clean up some copyrighted images. Two images were deleted and I was wrong about a graph. I now regret offering to do this because I am being followed by this user in an act of revenge. I am being repeatedly targeted by this user but I did not submit their early uploads for deletion, nor have I gone through their entire editing history, another user submitted some of their images for deletion. I want to be left alone from this user but every few days they are going through my entire editing history here making trivial edits to historic images I have uploaded. This user is not a historian like myself, I have created nearly 400 Wikipedia articles unlike them who was quickly blocked on Wikipedia and had all their edits reverted for copyright and disruption.
- This user does not need to be stalking my editing history from 4 years ago making these type of trivial edits. I have a history with this user so this is obviously not good-faith editing. This is being done to harass me and is a type of WP:POINT behaviour. I have been here since 2019 uploading hundreds of historic photographs and never had a problem with anyone here. I now have this new banned Wikipedia user targeting me who has only been here a few months. It is not acceptable. It is not being done in good faith, I want to be left alone. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Chamaemelum: it's easy just to create a fake email account and use a proxy or VPN so if it is you who is doing it then that is the method you would choose. I have an open email address on my Wikipedia account and have received abuse from banned users in the past, it has happened but not for a long time. If you are not sending the emails, the only other user who it might be is Belteshazzar who has been banned on hundreds of proxies who I have had history with. Looking through the writing style of that user they share a lot of similarities with yourself. As noted by others you are not a new user. Belteshazzar is strictly on proxies so it would be a waste of time for me filing a check-user but I am seeing a lot of similarities. I would like to deal with the emails privately with the WMF. I started this section to discuss your repeated following me around on here which is not being done in good faith. You have still not explained why you are doing it. Psychologist Guy (talk) 09:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't mind that you deletion requested multiple images I uploaded. I don't consider it harassment, and I hold no grudges at all. I appreciate if someone points out when I make a mistake. I've never looked through your entire history, but I did look at some of your uploads because I noticed a common simple mistake with a few of them. I hope you can understand that this isn't to harass or annoy you. It is also not true that I had "all their edits reverted for copyright and disruption." My enwiki edits were already discussed on enwiki as you pointed out, and I learned and accepted that feedback (slow down aspartame editing, formatting, etc.); though I paraphrased too closely on the "Tayside children's sleep questionnaire" article, there have not been subsequent copyright issues with my writing (e.g. [18]), and even if so that's not directly related to my contributions here on commons.
- With regards to using a proxy, I agree with you generally, but it could still be a good idea to at least check [19] if the IP is a proxy or not. Chamaemelum (talk) 16:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just so I can understand something - how do you know File:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg is under a Creative Commons license? I can’t see the exact source where you got this from, when I went to the photographers website I don’t see anything that says photos are under a CC license. I’m looking on my phone, so I may have missed something. Thank you. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Bastian's personal website has a CC0 1.0 indicator. The image has also been uploaded with CC licenses many other times, including on the Creative Commons domain itself. I've updated the file page to make these sources more clear, thanks. Chamaemelum (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Just so I can understand something - how do you know File:Bastian Greshake Tzovaras.jpg is under a Creative Commons license? I can’t see the exact source where you got this from, when I went to the photographers website I don’t see anything that says photos are under a CC license. I’m looking on my phone, so I may have missed something. Thank you. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Psychologist Guy: Thank you for this explanation. If you're able to, would you be willing to forward the emails you've received thus far to
info-commons
so that administrators can take a look at them? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC)wikimedia.org
- Hi, I just want to give an update on this situation. The user who sent the emails to me was Belteshazzar. I have been in communication with the WMF as I complained about Belteshazzar. I can't go into too much detail here but I have had some serious harassment from this user off-site. 3 days ago Belteshazzar has been globally banned by the WMF [20], so his harassment and stalking is a serious issue and the WMF have taken action against it after I sent them evidence of what has been doing. I have been stalked by this person for quite some time on and off Wikipedia. He sent me two emails on a throwaway email address telling me my Commons uploads are going to be deleted. Because Chamaemelum was submitting photographs I uploaded for deletion I believed the emails were sent from this user but know I know that was not the case. I apologise for accusing Chamaemelum of sending these emails. I have had others look at this and apart from some similar editing interests, I do not believe Chamaemelum is Belteshazzar. I suspected for a while that Belteshazzar and Chamaemelum are the same user, but I now believe I was wrong about that. I apologize for the accusations, the user who was doing this to me has now globally banned. I am taking a break from Commons, so an admin can close this if they like. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Rename file
Dear admin, please rename this File:Butterfly eating fruits in Butterfly Farm, Poring Hor Spring, Ranau.jpg into "File:Butterfly eating fruits in Butterfly Farm, Poring Hot Spring, Ranau.jpg". There was a typo on that Hor. Thank you. WAqil (WMYS) (talk) 15:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- @WAqil (WMYS), this did not need an admin intervention. I have moved the file for you. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- You can click on the move file option under tools. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:10, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
![Checkmark](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/OOjs_UI_icon_check-constructive.svg/20px-OOjs_UI_icon_check-constructive.svg.png)
Vandalism
Can we please have someone block User:2402:800:6305:E1B2:909:604B:8B2D:CC31, they are posting a lot of objectionable messages. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 06:06, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Done. Blocked for a year, vandalism reverted. Taivo (talk) 09:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
No empty. Микола Василечко (talk) 06:21, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Done. Taivo (talk) 09:06, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Flagged for name of original file
I uploaded https://www.flickr.com/photos/mainedoe/8581085676 which is protected by CC-BY 2.0, and was warned that the original file name was blacklisted. Would this still need to be changed if it's the original file name? Thank you. Pac-Man PHD (talk) 12:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Pac-Man PHD Yes, you should name the file something descriptive, like (for example, it doesn't have to be exactly this!) "Florida Commissioner of Education Tony Bennett (8581085676).jpg". —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
TTPTuthanh
Upload many copyrighted images. I am I Talk 17:13, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Presumably about User:TTPTuthanh. Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Done Deleted his uploads, warned via talk page. Kadı Message 20:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Fix Italian translation in gadget
Hi :) non-technical fix required in a gadget. See request:
MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Stockphoto.js/it#Please fix Italian bug existing since 2020
Thanks :) --bozz (talk) 11:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Valerio Bozzolan: Done, please use {{Edit request}} from next time. Thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 12:12, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- OK thanks! (Is that mentioned somewhere from this page? It seems not. Maybe we can mention it in the notes in the header) bozz (talk) 12:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I did a first upload of this file yesterday. Unfortunately I used the while without changed numberplate. A few minutes ago I uploaded the correct while. As number plates are a point of discussion: could you please remove the version of 3 September soon. Thank you very much in advance. Best regards, Wikisympathisant (talk) 20:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Commons:Village_pump#Multiple_better_quality_duplicates_nominated_for_deletion_by_bot.
Can an Admin please shut off the OptimusPrimeBot? I have contacted the bot owner on their talk page with a ping. I manually undid some files, but the bot keeps adding more files. I'm hoping the bot can be modified in some way with these Sanborn map files. I am willing to help tag the older/ original files, if that is appropriate or needed.
Please, see: Commons:Village pump#Multiple better quality duplicates nominated for deletion by bot.
I do not know how to use the recommended VFC at the Village pump. The bot keeps adding Sanborn map files tagged with "duplicate" to be deleted. I understand that this bot tags newer files as duplicates for deletion, while keeping the older original uploaded file.
However, these newer Sanborn map files from DPLA are better than the older/ original uploaded files. The newer DPLA/ Sanborn map file have a great description of Sanborn maps (the older files do not). Also, the newer files have more detail in the license section (the older files does not). Thank you, -- Ooligan (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Done 3-day block to get owner's attention. Presumably they will come here to discuss. Once they do, any admin should feel free to unblock at owner's request. - Jmabel ! talk 18:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- With this drastic measure you have my full attention.
- In form:
- @Ooligan it's really not cool to ask to administrators to block me without discussion. You could have simply asked me first to lower the bot cadence, or disable this specific feature for a few days if you wanted to make a pass on the ~2000 duplicates imported by DPLA bot. Or you could also have simply asked to @Dominic to see if he's able to modify the original file descriptions so that the newer files can be deleted without any loss of information.
- @Jmabel it's really not cool to block my bot without any discussion, while it does nothing wrong against Commons policies and rules. I find this behaviour abusive, and a lack of tact and respect for my work, as the bot activities are meant to help the administrators to review duplicate files. I would never have expected an administrator to block my bot without any discussion first.
- In substance:
- I'm really upset to see my bot blocked for three days, without any discussion, while the original problem is caused by @DPLA bot! Since when do you shoot the messengers? It's up to DPLA bot to fix this problem by making sure duplicate files are not uploaded in the first place, and descriptions improved instead. I really don't see why my bot should be blocked because of another bot problems. But even with DPLA bot problems it didn't cross my mind to ask for its blocking. Instead, I reported this problem politely and nicely to @Dominic, and he will look into it.
- I'd like to hear @Túrelio and @Mdaniels5757 opinions, as they're the ones who actively deal with the duplicate files (and I hope they find my bot's work valuable).
- Please unblock my bot. I can't import any pictures right now because of the blocking. The duplicate detection is only a side feature.
- Ping @VIGNERON @Yann vip (talk) 20:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Don-vip: You should fix the issues mentioned (if needed, I didn't check), and insure that they won't happen again before the bot to start again. Yann (talk) 20:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann Thanks for the answer. I contest any malfunction for my bot. Keeping the oldest file is in my eyes, the good choice. It's up to DPLA bot to fix the problems (updating oldest files with the new description + making sure new duplicates are not uploaded in the future). I have however disabled the duplicate detection mechanism for the time being (it's just a crontab on toolforge) so that Dominic can take his time to fix the issues, without putting him under unnecessary pressure. vip (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Deleting a newer file with better metadata without merging the metadata is probably not a great idea. I would hope that is not how a typical human editor would handle the situation. - Jmabel ! talk 21:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: it may be true (except you're wrong on one point, the bot doesn't delete itself, it just put the template for deletion, precisely asking for human attention) but uploading a duplicate is even worse. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 06:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Deleting a newer file with better metadata without merging the metadata is probably not a great idea. I would hope that is not how a typical human editor would handle the situation. - Jmabel ! talk 21:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann Thanks for the answer. I contest any malfunction for my bot. Keeping the oldest file is in my eyes, the good choice. It's up to DPLA bot to fix the problems (updating oldest files with the new description + making sure new duplicates are not uploaded in the future). I have however disabled the duplicate detection mechanism for the time being (it's just a crontab on toolforge) so that Dominic can take his time to fix the issues, without putting him under unnecessary pressure. vip (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Don-vip: You should fix the issues mentioned (if needed, I didn't check), and insure that they won't happen again before the bot to start again. Yann (talk) 20:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
@Don-vip: unblocked. Ooligan said he was failing to get your attention to the matter, and I figured this would make sure no damage was done without a chance to discuss. Nothing intended as punitive, just wanted to insure against a scenario where you might (for example) be away from your computer for a day or two while your bot did something possibly controversial, since bots should be sticking to uncontroversial edits. - Jmabel ! talk 21:08, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Jmabel thank you! vip (talk) 21:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Please undelete
Since JuTa hasn’t been around, please another admin undelete Category:Black, brown, green, pink, yellow, as it is not empty anymore. Thank you! -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 16:16, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Tuvalkin
Done —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Forgotten DR?
Was this DR forgotten? It has been open for roughly four months. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 18:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The currently oldest not yet closed deletion request dates from March 18, 2023, six weeks older than the one you linked to. --Rosenzweig τ 18:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is not on Commons:Deletion requests/2023/04, it seems that there is a problem with to many included pages on these deletion requests by month pages. GPSLeo (talk) 18:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, you have to go to the by-day pages. I actually made a thing to help with this that others may find helpful: User:Mdaniels5757/OpenDRs shows all daily subpages with closable DRs. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is not on Commons:Deletion requests/2023/04, it seems that there is a problem with to many included pages on these deletion requests by month pages. GPSLeo (talk) 18:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Edit request
Please move 3 users from "Category:User en-gb" to "Category:User en-GB" by editing their user pages. Taylor 49 (talk) 08:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Move Flag of Azerbaijan
Hi. Please move:
- File:Flag of Azerbaijan.svg to File:Flag of Azerbaijan (2004–2013).svg
- File:Flag of Azerbaijan (2004–2013).svg to File:Flag of Azerbaijan.svg
per discussion on enwiki NMW03 (talk) 11:19, 7 September 2023 (UTC)