Commons talk:Upload
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Note: This page is only for discussion of the Commons:Upload page. Need help with licensing? See Commons:First steps. Read that and still need help? See Commons:Help desk. Experienced users: if you find this page annoying, you can still go directly to Special:Upload. Translators! Please see Commons:Redesigning the upload form for help about how to translate this page and the links it contains.
| See also the talk pages for the various Commons:Upload forms: | |
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| It is entirely my own work. | Talk |
| It is from Flickr. | Talk |
| It is from another Wikimedia project. | Talk |
| It is from a US federal government source. | Talk |
| It is a free software screenshot. | Talk |
| It is from somewhere else. | Talk |
Note: Nearly all of the links on the left side of the above table are to the transcluded introductory instruction text for the various upload pages linked from Commons:Upload. For the full range of such transcluded text see Special:Prefixindex/Mediawiki:Uploadtext.
| Read or make upload suggestions also at: | |
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| Commons:Redesigning the upload form | Talk |
| MediaWiki:UploadForm.js | Talk |
| The Wikitech-l Archives. | |
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[edit] Talk page for Special:Upload
Where is the talk page for Special:Upload? And can that talk page be linked from Special:Upload?--Timeshifter 16:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- I see that the Special:Upload form is for the "from somewhere else" upload page that is linked from Commons:Upload. The talk page for Special:Upload is at MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext. --Timeshifter 17:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Document page for Special:Upload
I have noticed that oftentimes there are transcluded document pages for the explanatory text for many templates. Is there such a document page for Special:Upload?
For example; for w:Template:Unsigned2 there is w:Template:Unsigned2/doc. This way users can edit the explanatory text directly, or they can suggest changes on the talk page for it. Such as at w:Template talk:Unsigned2/doc
It also keeps the discussion for the template itself separate from the discussion for the explanatory text for it. See w:Template talk:Unsigned2 for discussion about the template itself.
I would like a similar setup for Special:Upload. I want to make changes directly to the explanatory text. I think registered users should be able to do that. If that is not possible, then I would like a talk page where I can use {{editprotected}} to make a request for an edit to the explanatory text.
I would also like to be able to make some very technical suggestions for the template itself. So that the busy MediaWiki developers and programmers might possibly see more suggestions from me and others.
Most people will not make such technical template suggestions elsewhere because it is unintuitive to do so. The other locations for such technical suggestions are oftentimes baffling to figure out. Such as at Bugzilla (is that the place for MediaWiki technical suggestions?), etc..
The other locations for technical suggestions oftentimes don't get the discussion, participation, and consensus that can occur naturally on a standard wiki talk page over time. And with a standard wiki talk page there is no need to create yet another login account as at Bugzilla, etc.. --Timeshifter 18:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please see Commons:Redesigning the upload form which lists the system messages (ie, pages in the MediaWiki: namespace) that are used to construct Special:Upload. You can make an edit request on the talk page of any of those MediaWiki: pages, which are only able to edited by admins (that is how MediaWiki works, we can't change that).
- To make technical suggestions, use wikitech-l. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for. I linked to them from the box at the top too. --Timeshifter 11:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A friend's work
After
It is entirely my own work
add another choice or advice for
It is a friend's work, and he/she asked/allowed me to upload it for them.
As creators often are not upload experts or even computer users. Perhaps mention Commons:OTRS. Jidanni 20:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Or perhaps mention the «create ã new account in the name of your friend and use it for uploading the works» option. God bless the ability to upload with a pseudeanonymous name, as it makes such things easier (I haven't done it myself yet, but I will seriously consider it the next time I upload the work of a friend). --Kjetil r 02:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Some people (gasp) aren't interested in learning computers at all, not even to mention this computer, but still wish to contribute great work. So we should remember not everybody is a computer nerd or even user or wishes to be.... Jidanni 22:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think Kjetil meant you could create an account in the name of your friend, and you use it to upload their work as "pd-self".
- In general people should be discouraged from having multiple personalities but OTOH, that is the best solution to this problem of "real world verification" that I have heard so far... --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I would be better to use one's own account and add a comment "[x]Uploaded for Name: Blob Blobowitz, who fully consents...", than encourage making and using an account for Blob, who of course doesn't know or care to know what is going on. Else it feels like turning Wikipedia into a Nigerian Scam. Jidanni 09:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Flickr
The Flickr page should probably be more aggressive about NC and ND being disallowed. For instance, perhaps this change:
Licenses with NC (non-commercial use only) or ND (no derivative works allowed to be created) are not OK here.
to:
Licenses with NC (non-commercial use only) or ND (no derivative works allowed to be created) are NOT OK here.
--Superm401 16:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- You don't think the little
stop hands are aggressive enough? --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image guidelines
I added a link referring to the image upload guidelines. I've been having much luck with the recommended PNG and JPEG optimizers, and getting more people to optimize images would reduce bandwidth requirements without losing image quality. Cwolfsheep 14:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- That was a little bit overkill. :) I removed the banner. One, it was way too big and attention-grabbing for a relatively unimportant topic of file type, and two, we would suggest for users to follow some Commons guideline rather than an English Wikipedia one, if any. Is w:Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload any different to Commons:File types? Maybe add the useful links to the page here.
- A more appropriate place for this type of message, if anywhere, would probably be MediaWiki:Uploadtext/ownwork. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 07:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sentence in need of correction
On the Special:Upload page under Describing your uploads, it says:
Permission - quote the of the author's permission. Maybe take out a "the".
Done. You may wish to request at MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext in future. Cheers, — Giggy 01:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Empty row at the bottom and subscript
Is there some technical reason for the empty 55px-high row at the bottom of the table? It doesn't really make the form look better. If "|height=55" is left out, the text will fit the box nicely - at the moment there is some ugly whitespace there, in Opera at least. On a similar note: why is (see our guide) in subscript and not just small text? I don't want to change without asking, as there might be some reason I cannot yet see. --rimshottalk 11:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- The row was used in an old design but I don't think it's needed now. I suspect the use of sub rather than small is because in some browsers they look the same so you wouldn't be aware of the difference. Please be bold and improve it. :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] No results
The MediaWiki:Upload-url do not change the link of "Upload file" in sidebar, particularly in Vietnamese Wikipedia where I'm an admin. I had to change MediaWiki:Common.js to make it work. Can somebody explain? Vinhtantran 18:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I copied the above comment from Commons talk:Redesigning the upload form. --Timeshifter 20:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Uploadtext/screenshot
Could we get a upload-form for screenshots? I ask for this as these are often under a wrong license as people choose on available in the Upload form and not as advised in Commons:Screenshots.
The Uploadtext should explain free screenshot licensing and have {{free screenshot}} with the license= parameter prefilled in the text form. Uploaders shall then pick from free software licenses available at commons like {{GPL}}, {{BSD}}, {{LGPL}}, {{CeCILL}}. Is this possible? --Matt 14:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- People might use the English Wikipedia screenshot upload form for ideas. It is linked from w:Wikipedia:Upload. The current direct link to it is this. It may change, so for the current form (pre-filled-in correctly) go to it from w:Wikipedia:Upload. The transcluded introductory text pages for the various wikipedia upload forms are linked from the table at the top of w:Wikipedia talk:Upload. --Timeshifter 15:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I created Commons:Upload/screenshot using the "wpUploadDescription mechanism" and listed all FOSS licenses currently available at Commons + a link to Commons:Screenshots for further explanations. --Matt 12:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Flickr tool suggestion
The text "Summary (use Flinfo tool):" is great, got me to use the FInfo tool, but this also discouraged me from adding or changing any of the FInfo tool output. Perhaps a small addition to that would encourage people to add a description when the flickr image did not come with one? How about changing it to "Summary (use Flinfo tool. Then add any additional description):"? If I had seen something like that, as a new user I would have been much better about filling in useful descriptions for the images I was uploading. I wouldn't have thought the FInfo output was sacrosanct or required schooling to edit its output. - Owlmonkey 01:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Another idea might be to explain that on the Flinfo page itself:
- http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/flinfo.php
- I think "ID" should be explained on the Flinfo page too. I figured out by experimentation that "ID" meant the last set of numbers in the URL of the Flickr image page.
- Here is another useful Flickr tool:
- http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/Import_Flickr_Images
- It is on w:Wikia. --Timeshifter 08:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Entirely my own work
This phrase was just ridiculous. The whole point of commons is that you can get works that can be resused. How am I supposed to say it's entirely my own work if it's an edit from a Commoner's work. I've changed the phrase so I don't lie every time I upload an edited work of a free license. --Dori - Talk 15:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think that's complicating matters for new users. If it is not entirely your then why not use from somewhere else? I hope you don't mind, but I have reversed your change. Lycaon 15:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] derivative work
Hi, my tool derivativeFX is designed to upload derivative works of commons-files to commons. how would be:
? There is a little limitation - it works not with Internet Explorer because of JavaScript-problems. The best would be a CSS-class which is hidden in Internet Explorer so you don't see it with IE. Thanks for feedbacks! --Luxo 17:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
