User talk:Herbythyme/Arc25

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User:DoSia deletion of the user page[edit]

Hi, Could you explain which exactly rule of Commons my user page was violating? I just wanted to intruduce myself, but you deleted my user page claiming that it violates some uknown for me rules. Anyway, thank you for your "warm" welcome on Commons... DoSia (talk) 12:59, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

But it is rather normal, that the user intruduce himself/herself first, and then upload pictures. I'm still waiting from you to show me an exact rule which says that users are not allowed to link to his/her facebook page on his/her own userpage here. Thank you. DoSia (talk) 13:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
You still did not point to the exact rule which says what you are claiming it is not allowed here. I simply first created my user-page to introduce myself and then started preparing pictures to upload with help of my father. The upload is actually in progress.. You deleted my user page just after several minutes I have created it without clear, personal explanation why you did it. Would not be better to give me a chance before doing such aggressive and discouraging action as deleting my user page? Without my father help I would probably resign from doing here anything after such an "worm" welcome.How many other users have you already discouraged in that way? Your user-page contains links to your private page on flickr and blog and it is OK, but not OK for me to link to my personal page on facebook, why? Again - please provide a link to the rule which give you a right for such an action... DoSia (talk) 14:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
While I am not Herby's spokesman, being an uninvolved administrator I'll give you an independent opinion. At the time of deletion of your userpage, you had no uploads, but a user page containing 2 Facebook links. This was clearly indicating to someone (ab)using Commons' webspace for promotional purposes (which does not require being also commercially). Each day scores of people do exactly this. And each day we admins do exactly what Herby has done with your userpage. Almost all new contributors to Commons first upload some files and at a later point of time think of writing something on their userpage. You seem to be the unexpected and rare exception of that rule. --Túrelio (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

What else do you suggest to be done in response to socking and block evasion?[edit]

  1. What else do you suggest to be done in response to socking and block evasion?
  2. Do you think absolutely nothing should be done?
  3. Should we thank the sockmaster for performing socking and block evasion — by enabling the sockmaster and his socks?
  4. Should we not even bother to check if there is any collateral damage by a CU check with the checkuser tool, and just assume this?
  5. Should an investigation be started at Commons:Requests for checkuser? Would this investigation request result in any Checkuser actions being taken?
  6. Should we change Commons:Blocking policy to explicitly state that it is perfectly okay for a blocked user to perform block evasion via sockpuppetting?

I respect your opinion and value your input and would appreciate answers to these questions, below.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 15:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll respond on the admin board thanks --Herby talk thyme 16:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, and you're welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 16:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Multiple numbers of the socks are NOT dynamic[edit]

  • Herbythyme, multiple numbers of the socks are NOT dynamic.
  • Multiple numbers of the socks exhibit a pattern of having been blocked, then once the block expires, they go right back to being used for block evasion by the sockmaster.

Here are a few examples:

  1. (talk · contribs) = was blocked one week, that short block did NOT deter block evasion, came back to socking and block evasion after block expired.
  2. (talk · contribs) = was blocked one week, that short block did NOT deter block evasion, came back to socking and block evasion after block expired.
  3. (talk · contribs) = used by same sockmaster since December 2009.

-- Cirt (talk) 16:08, 16 December 2012 (UTC)



I notice that you left a warning for the above user. I don't know how many images were left by the time you got there, as they all seem to have been removed very quickly, but this user had seven or eight images and all were very blatant spam in bad faith?

Is there any way a non-admin like me can tag such accounts as apparent spam-only for future admin attention and possible blocking? Or is it likely that the administrator deleting one "speedy" spam image will notice that this isn't a one-off and take action anyway? (I notice that it was you that seemed to have deleted them all).

Thanks for the help either way!

Ubcule (talk) 17:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Such good questions :)
You tagged a few - I picked up on two you hadn't and deleted them.
Best approach - tag with speedy and inform the user. The "no adverts" template is a good one for that sort of obvious spam. You can always post on an admin board to get attention - some folk may question it but it is fine with me. If you find anything that worries you and can see I am around (via activity maybe) feel free to drop a note on here.
As to whether other admins will notice more spam - difficult to answer. I will look if I have time and others may do the same (or not). Thanks for the help :) --Herby talk thyme 17:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Plus - it ain't all spam. Personal images are allowed - look at the text/context before deciding. Equally text logos are probably not speedy - again what does it say, is it used on an en article (or other language) etc etc. You may wish to revert yourself on one or two! --Herby talk thyme 17:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, I do appreciate that personal images are permitted if they're in reasonable use as part of a user page or userspace content. I've not (intentionally) tagged any that I am aware are in use in that way- I normally check the file usage at the bottom of its page. (BTW, which is the most appropriate "topmost level" category to move obvious userspace images into if they're not already categorised?)
I would assume that if a "personal" image has been uploaded more than a month ago and still hasn't been used in that manner, then it's appropriate to tag it for speedy deletion(?)
I'm also aware that non-copyrightable text logos (plus "simple shapes" et al) are permitted here, and if in doubt normally check what it's meant to represent before deciding if it should be tagged.
You mentioned that "you may wish to revert yourself on one or two"- are there any that you had in mind?
Finally, as I'm not an admin myself, when I tag something, I assume that's all it is- an advice tag for an admin. Since they're the ones with the power, I assume they'll double-check and follow or reject it as they feel appropriate. Perhaps this is wrong? If you think I've been too slapdash in any particular case though, please let me know. Thanks!
Thank you also for the rollback privilege, BTW, I'll take a look into that. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Apologies - short of time.
Looks to me as though other admins have deleted ones I might not have done I guess but it happens :) so forget the reverts.
Personal images I'm more relaxed about than some other admins (& my approach to spam is 100% intolerance). An odd image doesn't seem like the end of the world to me maybe.
I sincerely hope all admins will take care to review deletion requests - that said as time goes by the nose for such things improves (I hope). Cheers --Herby talk thyme 11:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks again for the feedback- I'll probably err a bit more on the side of caution in the future.
My main concern is with Commons getting diluted with self-indulgent, low-quality material that has no plausible reuse potential or interest to anyone beyond the uploader. Ditto copyvios (perhaps even moreso) which dilutes Commons' reliability and usefulness.
I guess the problem with unused personal stuff is determining whether it's self-expression or self-promotion (the latter obviously a form of spam(!)). Anyway, once again, thank you for your feedback! Ubcule (talk) 19:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

A bit of support[edit]

Hi Herby. I saw this and I would like to say that I really appreciate your work and I wouldn't lose you. So please stay and know you're not alone. Trijnsteltalk 21:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Drag Me to Hell ComicCon panel Alison Lohman.jpg[edit]

Copyright violation, see Commons:Licensing

The image was not a copyright violation. Could you tell me why it was deleted? Viriditas (talk) 09:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

And just who is this new account, User:MaybeMaybeMaybe that tagged it as a copyright violation in the first place? Viriditas (talk) 09:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
See also: User_talk:INeverCry#File:Drag_Me_to_Hell_ComicCon_panel_Alison_Lohman_cropped.jpg Viriditas (talk) 09:07, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Per the answer elsewhere - to me it is a screenshot of non-free content without any doubts. --Herby talk thyme 13:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
For continuing mentorship and encouragement, for being a rock that I can turn to in times of need. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Username block[edit]

Hi Herbythyme. Please note that I changed the block of Politecnici (talk · contribs) to a soft block per request on OTRS ticket:2012121610004279. Trijnsteltalk 21:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Herby is having computer problems and doesn't expect to see it fixed until the 24th. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:50, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks folk - noted. An early Xmas miracle has occurred and the internet is now on (apparently & fingers crossed). --Herby talk thyme 10:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually it just died again...! --Herby talk thyme 10:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Seasons greetings to all[edit]

Winter sun on the south Devon coast

My best wishes to all fellow workers on Commons - I had hoped for something more seasonal but that weather ain't like that this year! --Herby talk thyme 10:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


Juletræet.jpg * * * 2013 !!! * * *
Hi! Merry Christmas! Happy New Year!

Yours faithfully, George -- George Chernilevsky talk 22:38, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Pages on which to keep an eye[edit]

Thought you might be interested in this spam pattern since you're the most active anti-spam person I know from commons...


Persistent spammers (are Tonyguards and Justgerrardz the same spammer?). PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Much appreciated :)
  1. A few accounts blocked after CU
  2. Rangeblocked the IP source after CU
  3. BL'd 5 of their fave links
  4. Sprot the archive
  5. Watchlisted the rest
Odd I seemed to have missed those - slipping I guess. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 09:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Have you considered running for steward? ;) PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes - No :)
Ps rollback granted - can't remember if you need it as gs. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm also a global rollbacker but thanks! :P Special:Contributions/Uebersetzer1, User:Uebersetzerin, and User:Seankian must be related. I just reverted a lot of their spam on mw:. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Can never remeber which over rides which!
On the above - throw in this one as well - working through a couple of other accounts too. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 16:14, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

ffs - look at the en contrib here assuming it ain't deleted by now. BL'ing site next - cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe list those sites on the COI bot on Meta? Could be extensive - cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
list of domains added for the COIBot/Poke page (you add it please). Also feel free to use that URL-list to LinkSummary-list code if you need it (but you need to add http:// to URIs). PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
If I wasn't clear enough, the thing to copy and paste is at the bottom of the page. (below the yellow stuff) PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
[1] Too much for the bot to handle??? PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry busy and little time left today. I guess I was aiming to look at the ones placed here - three links overall I think and no idea how much the bot can take :) but we will find out I'm sure. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 17:30, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Sita Prayopavesham.jpg[edit]


You deleted this file tagged as a copyright violation, but there DR was closed as kept. I think that 1) there is no copyright here, 2) any deletion should only be made after a new DR. Regards and Happy New Year, Yann (talk) 18:08, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Not me - I've not edited the file or the DR - you may wish to look at who you intended this message for. --Herby talk thyme 18:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

New year[edit]

With thanks for your support and the pleasant co-operation in the past year, I wish you all the best in the new year! --Túrelio (talk) 19:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
My thanks and good wishes to you too --Herby talk thyme 09:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


Dear Herby I did the logo for Volo Press edizioni. So there are no copyright violations. what should I do to remove that tag?--Winstonbianche (talk) 14:05, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist (Manhattan)[edit]

Thank you kindly for killing my failed attempt to make a category. I intended to look up the proper form of request upon my return from an errand. Jim.henderson (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi Herbythyme, Thanks for your advice about posting on discussions/talk pages. I'm very new to using WikiCommons, and I'm struggling a bit to be honest, with getting around the pages and 'the correct way' of doing things! I will re read the help stuff again and see if I can get it right next time. I didn't realise it was not right to put your URL of where you have placed someones photo. In innocence, I placed the link there so they could go check I used their photo correctly, and also attributed the image in their name. Oh well! I thought I was doing the right thing. Can you suggest another way to let the owner of the photos know where I have placed their photo (or don't they mind where?), and also so I can at least thank them for sharing the photo? I really don't like the idea of just taking a photo from someone without even a 'thanks' somewhere!!! Or would that be ok in the 'talk' section, but just without a link to where I used it? Sorry if I've offended anyone! Nothing meant badly!!! Thanks all for your patience,

Mary, Lovefoodies

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovefoodies (talk • contribs)

Just looking for a 'reply' button or something to your last message....hmmmmmmm anyway, no worries, I will NOT be posting anywhere near 600 links on the site. My goodness! It takes me about 1 hour each time I would like to use a photo, to check if it's the right one, read about it, download it and then write a message the author to let them know. Hopefully the more used to this site I get, the better I will be with the etiquette and speed too :)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovefoodies (talk • contribs)

Anti Vandal[edit]

Hi Dear! Plz check My request again. Thanks:--MehdiTalk 16:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Can you translate the block reason for me please? Thanks --Herby talk thyme 18:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
(سوء استفاده از چند حساب کاربری = Abuse of multiple accounts!) You're welcome Dear. --MehdiTalk 18:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Full translate=> (blocked Wateriran (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation blocked) (Abuse of multiple accounts)) --MehdiTalk 18:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorting for Devonport Leat[edit]


Wanted to bounce an idea off you with regards to Category:Devonport Leat (and other similar categories): Using sort keys to arrange the category in distance-order, so File:Devonport leat take off 1.JPG would be listed first, and any in Plymouth last, with a logical progression down the leat.

It will be a tricky to work out properly, as for each image I will need to measure the distance from the head, along the leat. That said, my GIS skills should be up to that... But it will take a fair bit of time, do you think it will be worthwhile?--Nilfanion (talk) 11:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I think I'll have a try at that at some point, though like you say, it will be a ton of work.
With regards to the leat merger - that proposal is a tad overzealous. There are a lot of mixed terms, so I wouldn't mind someone tidying it up a bit. But merging it all to aqueduct is silly.--Nilfanion (talk) 14:54, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I've traced the leat from the East Dart to the edge of the city (38 km). I'd love to plot the full length (as then I can produce a map for the WP article) but that need real research. Its possible, as I've managed to follow Devonport Leat to Devonport, Plymouth Leat to Mutley and also found Stonehouse Leat...
I have the entire moorland stretch, so I can work on that sorting project.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

And its done - let me know what you think? :)--Nilfanion (talk) 14:10, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll add a quick note to the cat description. The sorting wasn't bad (thanks to GIS), but maintaining it properly will be somewhat tedious. One side benefit is unsorted files will likely be dumped at the end of the cat. I'll probably do the same with Plymouth Leat and other similar features at some point.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:18, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

copyright violation photo[edit]

sorry for poor english. please check this file again[2]. it steal from actor's website. just select photos and select skin care, you can see the picture top right.--Cuteele23 (talk) 15:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

  • and another copyright violation photo [3][4], please make sure you check all 3 background photos by press 1,2,3 below the website.
English is fine :) however the website clear has "CC-by-sa-3.0" at the bottom so the licensing is good for Commons. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 15:57, 12 January 2013 (UTC) bad, but this photo [5] is an advertisement form SK2(an Taiwan cosmetic company), i afraid that copyright is not only owned by that actor.
Yeah that makes sense but a DR would probably be better than a speedy under the circumstances --Herby talk thyme 16:06, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
sorry again for newbie's mistaken. I'll try to fix that. :P --Cuteele23 (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
We have all made mistakes - the only real difference is have have been around longer and made more than you :) --Herby talk thyme 16:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Re:Please consider[edit]

Hi Herby,
thanks for the message; I don't think that people should be allowed to strike negative comments about them anywhere, not just on their talk pages, but as my time is very limited these days, I am not going to interfere more with Malcolm's talk page any more. I only noticed his removing that comment because I have that page on my watchlist to see if there any updates regarding his unblock request.

However, as for the time of the block, I think that it is pretty well-deserved; Malcolm was blocked a few times for a week, and it didn't bring any good to his behaviour, so I think that a longer break should be just enough for him to consider his attitude towards other users on Commons, especially with regards to calling other fascists or antisemites. odder (talk) 21:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I am not aware of any policies that regulate these matters, at least on Commons. However, from my on-wiki experience I can tell that removing negative comments about yourself is not a good sign—and I see that other administrators share similar views. odder (talk) 09:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi there, I want to have some of the pictures taken by myself deleted. Could you please let me know what kind of procedure I should take? Also where is the right place to create gallaries? 螺钉 (talk) 08:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok.Thanks. 螺钉 (talk) 08:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

User deleted[edit]

Hello Herbythyme, why did you have deleted my User-Site Thomas4312? Is anything wrong with that? Sorry for my inexperience. Yours thomas

--> thx for you information.

Hi Herbythyme, before taking it to COM:AN or /U, would you mind to have a look at the second paragraph/thread at User talk:Siska.Doviana? Thanks. --Túrelio (talk) 22:07, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes - not good at all and watchlisted. Let me know if you think I miss it anywhere --Herby talk thyme 12:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Puppets[edit]

Hello, that user is actually a sockmaster: I have CU privileges on, so I could identify him with 100% accuracy (100% match on all technical and geolocalization data plus matching details on registration and edit timestamps). So far, I've identified around 20 different identities related to the same user, both on and on commons. I'm prepared to face him again in the future... :) Unfortunately he's operating here as well, and sometimes it's difficult to identify him. Thanks for your help :)--L736E (talk) 14:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Category talk:One Direction[edit]

Hi, I saw you deleted this with the summary "Inappropriate use of Category talk pages", but I thing the person who wrote the comment was probably suggesting that the text be added to the category as a Swedish translation, since there are several other languages already available. Just thought I'd mention it. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Welll... I've undeleted it but - the translation I get is One Direction are a group from England. The test sang X Factor enskillt. But then thought Simon (One of the jury) that they would become a group.. Comments welcome? --Herby talk thyme 16:55, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Haha, I don't know. Maybe it does translate but just not using software. I suppose a translation of what the category says in English would be better. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Picture of the Year voting round 1 open[edit]

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Album Cover[edit]

Hello, it's a new user to Wikipedia Commons. Today I tried to upload an album cover for infobox; however, it was removed due to so-called copyright violation. It was also of sufficient resolution for commentary and identification but lower resolution than the original cover. Can you please help me to upload it in an appropriate way? or if it is not possible I would like to know what the problem is so that I will be more careful next time. Najpoznatiji (talk) 15:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

ALF advertisements[edit]

The files "ALF Products Rock Star ad.jpg" and "ALF Products Craftsman ad.jpg" should not have been removed because I do in fact own the copyright for these works. When ALF was acquired by Rimage,,+INC.-a013291615 , I purchased the residual copyrights for all discontinued ALF products from Rimage. Please restore these files. Thank you.


Thanks very much for your consideration and thanks for your work in combating spambots. I will try to do the best you can. Érico Wouters msg 13:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

And one question: think best block for a week or one month IPs that abuse proxy/spambots? Érico Wouters msg 13:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again Herby. Following your valuable tips :) Érico Wouters msg 16:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay Herby. I thought the "Blocked users can edit their own talk page" was valid for all blocks, I can ignore this "rule" for spambots then? Érico Wouters msg 15:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. I was just "scared" to "break" the rule. Thanks again, Érico Wouters msg 15:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

re:Speedy tags[edit]

Sure :). Regards --Ignacio Flag of Uruguay.svg (discusión) 21:33, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Reversion of Deletion Tag removal.[edit]

The deletion request has been closed, decision to keep. Read the follow the relevant links before reverting in the future.


Undo revision 89107371 by Herbythyme (talk),_Caucasian_male,_age_23.jpg&oldid=89107371

Stephenbalaban (talk)

@Stephenbalaban, the DR-tag will be removed after the DR has been closed. As opposed to your above claim, the DR has not yet been closed. It's you who needs to get this in your head. Herbythyme's revert of's removal of the deletion-tag from the image page was fully in accordance with our policy. The DR might be bogus, nevertheless it needs correct processing. --Túrelio (talk) 21:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks - this would have been my answer too --Herby talk thyme 17:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


Herby, you rather were being trolled in that section; you may want to avoid feeding the trolls in future, that section had gotten horribly out of hand by the time I noticed it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

My thanks for your assistance - it is appreciated --Herby talk thyme 13:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Cross-wiki socks[edit]

Hi Herby. Can you take a look at User talk:KosovaSuperstars? I referred to User:RealMadridCF2012 in blocking this sock, but I forgot to mention the cross-wiki detail. Should User:RealMadridCF2012 be blocked here? I noticed you've blocked this sock of the user as well. Should a category for these socks be started here? Thanks for your time. INeverCry 21:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Blocked that one thanks. No idea about "categories" - not something I've ever done though it could be useful. Mail too :) --Herby talk thyme 09:14, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. In regard to categories, I was thinking of something like Category:Sockpuppets of RealMadridCF2012. I got the idea from helping with this case: Category:Sockpuppets of Jvolkblum. INeverCry 21:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Please check your email[edit]

Time-sensitive issue. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

waaay too sloooow - already sorted but thanks --Herby talk thyme 14:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Poster Stop Child Sex Violence or Abuse.jpg[edit]

I just already sent an e-mail to "", please check my e-mail, Thank You very much for your kind attention and your help. ~~ Erwin Mulialim(talk) 14:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC).

As soon as it is dealt with by an OTRS member the issue will be addressed. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 15:20, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Sock problem[edit]

Hi Herby. Can you please take a look at User talk:INeverCry#Delete the files of Gastombino1921? I already blocked User:Damian Carp Romero indef as a sock of User:Damian Romero who I blocked for a week. This new account User:Gastombino1921 has uploaded the same kind of football images, but I'm not sure if I should just block the acct as a sock, and what I should do regarding the main acct? Thanks for your time. INeverCry 17:56, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

User name issues[edit]

Hello, you blocked user "Quelle & Meyer Verlag GmbH & Co.". I now seem to stand in front of a Gordian knot: I am representative and acting on behalf of this company. Earlier, I had uploaded some picture files via my private account. Soon there arose problems since it wasn't me who holds the rights but the company. So I installed a second account with the company's name. This was blocked by you immediately. I am puzzled about what to do now. You will find my contact data on my user page: Clemens Jesenitschnig14:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


Hi Herby, if you have the time, take a look at the edits of According to what he removed from the DRs, it may be about sock-puppeting. --Túrelio (talk) 13:31, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Digging but I am sure you are correct. --Herby talk thyme 13:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

deleted photo[edit]

Hellow. thank you for deleting the photo that I asked to be removed.

However it still appears on search results on google and other search websites. Is there a possibility for it to be removed from there as well? maybe delete the URL or something. or if you know someone else I should ask this from.

Thank you in advance.

Sadly I can only deal with what is on here - you could try asking google but I'm not sure how interested they would be. Sorry not to be able to help more :( --Herby talk thyme 13:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

borrado de pagina de usuario[edit]

Disculpen si no esta no es la forma de escribirles, hasta ahora se me hace un poco confuso trabajar organizadamente, porque las páginas son un poco confusas o para usuarios expertos. Les escribo porque tengo duda de porque borraron mi pagina de usuario mi nombre de usuario es: (papachanty ), no comprendí y si existe alguien que pueda explicarlo estaría muy agradecido.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Papachanty (talk • contribs) 06:29, 25 February 2013‎ (UTC)
Translation: "Sorry if this is not the best way to contact you. As of now I'm having difficulties in working organized because the pages are a bit confusing or for expert users. I am writting you because I wonder why you have deleted my user page. I did not understand the deletion and I would be glad if you could explain to me, for which I'll be most pleased." —translated by M, 22:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC).
Thanks --Herby talk thyme 12:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Block of Carliitaeliza[edit]

Hi Herby, I noticed you blocked User:Carliitaeliza as abusing multiple accounts, but didn't present any evidence of this. You should be aware that we don't block users on Commons just because they're blocked on other wikis like Spanish Wikipedia. Can you explain this action? Thank you. Dcoetzee (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Involved as far as I can see with this case along with a number of other accounts. I rarely block users simply because they are blocked elsewhere. If I do it will be because of genuinely disruptive behaviour (for example there is a puppeteers who regularly creates accounts on Commons to disrupt ja.wp and I regularly block them and the underlying IPs). --Herby talk thyme 08:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
I've also requested another CU to review my actions. --Herby talk thyme 08:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

re File:Vladimir Putin caricature - Putin Rearmament Plan - by FreedomHouse.jpg[edit]

Understood, Herby, thank you for this clarification. I will keep that in mind in the future. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

My User Page[edit]

Why did you delete my user page? --Mox La Push (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I put that link on my user page as a "project-related bookmark ... [or] other working material." Specifically, I put it there to make it easier for me to follow the disposition of a copyright lawsuit with implications for the Wikimedia Commons that I discussed at the village pump. If you had looked at the page linked to or my contributions at the village pump you might possibly have figured that out. Alternatively, you could have simply asked before so quickly and aggressively policing user space. In any case, that single link was not non-allowable content. Kindly restore the page and please chill out a little. --Mox La Push (talk) 06:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. I'll restore the page myself. --Mox La Push (talk) 06:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


nice one Herby. Thanks for the quick action.  B.p. 17:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem :) --Herby talk thyme 17:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

borran todo y uno no sabe ni porque, y tampoco como arreglarlo antes que lo borren...!![edit]

desde que estoy usando wikipedia me encuentro con un montón de sorpresas. la primera es que: borraron los archivos subidos, aun cuando son archivos creados por mi la segunda es que la pagina de usuario la borraron también, sin importar que deje aclarado la procedencia del contenido del texto que estaba en ella, son poesías...! no entiendo nada.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Papachanty (talk • contribs)
Pointed to the project scope again on the user's talk page. --Herby talk thyme 08:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


Hi. May you please see here?. Best regards. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Herby is away as it seems so as per request of Ezarate I did the CU this time. :) Trijnsteltalk 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Spam, Spam, Spam[edit]

Do something about this perhaps? PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

✓  Done , blocked, locked, protected, CU'd, ... ;) (Herby is a bit busy you know, so I try to help where I can) Trijnsteltalk 23:21, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Confused about pictures[edit]


I am updating the P2i page and have just had an image rejected. The image was taken by P2i and they are happy to share it with the world. Can you help me understand why it has been taken down? Perhaps I have completed the forms incorrectly?



— Preceding unsigned comment added by Natasha Verniquet (talk • contribs)


Deleting for the license ? , I Found it in the internet and downloaded , put the source , what is the wrong with that Stupid Idiot License.GhiathArodaki (talk) 15:40, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Listen Up Carefuly , If you think you are going to stop me with a Block you are wrong , Now for the File you are deleting under the name License , The Cover was for my grandfather Who gave it to me, OK ?

Now To the next step , The file was given to me , copyrighted to me , Because of the Complex of Stupid Polices like this polices , I said that , Now do you understand , Don't Delete it Again Before Understanding , Your License thing isn't a reason.GhiathArodaki (talk) 18:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

So what do you want me to do ? His dead ? , Go dig the grave and ask him for the copyright ? , And i'll re-uploaded again you can nomate it , but not speedy deleting, And i don't care what will happen , as i told you , you will not puishme or control me by blocking.GhiathArodaki (talk) 18:28, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


Do you think we can move [7] to the closed section? -- Magister Mathematicae 23:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

✓  Done --Herby talk thyme 11:54, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


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  Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Commons:Administrators noticeboard#IP unblock. You are the blocking admin. Thank you.

Mono 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion [8] ? --Túrelio (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - replied there - it is an open proxy (or an abused one). --Herby talk thyme 17:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


I noticed that you recently blocked User: for one day for vandalism. Note that this IP is almost certainly User:GhiathArodaki evading his week-long block; you may want to extend the block on the IP to match the duration of User:GhiathArodaki's block. See en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/GhiathArodaki for further evidence linking the two accounts. —Psychonaut (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes fair;y well aware of who it was given the edits however the IP may well be dynamic. For someone who has the longest list of blocks on Commons (AFAIK) I still tend to block softly to start with. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 17:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
GhiathArodaki has continued to use the IP to post in violation of the block. Someone else recently raised this issue at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#someone naughty called User:GhiathArodaki evading block by using so I thought I'd let you know. —Psychonaut (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello Herby, please be aware of this AN/U for continued hounding. Fry1989 eh? 21:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Brandy Norwood[edit]

Hello Herbythyme. I noticed that you have deleted the picture Brandy_Norwood_23.jpg for copyright violation. The last time I checked it looked like it had adequate information. What reasons did you have for deleting it? :) Kind regards - John. 17:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

OK - upload by a puppet account user who - between the accounts - have uploaded a number of similar copyvios. Add in the fact that it looks far more like a pro image that I just haven't tracked down the real source of yet and the precautionary principle applies for now at least. --Herby talk thyme 18:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I did a little investigating and found out that the picture was taken by a photographer named Vivien Killilea at Niveas Grammy party back in 2011... So I guess it was uploaded without permission.. Sad, because Brandys articles lacks images of her. -John 14:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
While I agree it is sad I appreciate your efforts - thanks --Herby talk thyme 14:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Puppetry/attack accounts[edit]

Herby, do we have a Grawp SP register? If yes, I assume that [9] and [10] might be added. --Túrelio (talk) 16:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

hum - no idea about an SP register (tho I am not sure it is GRAWP - a while since I've seen him around). Either way some abused IPs blocked - thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, this is him. And yes, we do have some information somewhere. Thanks. :) Trijnsteltalk 22:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

But I don't want any flag. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 16:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll finish categorizing my uploads and leave. Have fun. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 16:27, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Herby, I've changed my mind (again) and I'd like to retain all the rights I could. Could you please have a look at my requests at Commons:Requests for rights and decide which of them has merit? Best regards --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 23:31, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


Hello. Since you just deleted this, please see also my report at the Admin Noticeboard. Regards, De728631 (talk) 17:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

noted but I actually did it the other way around... :) --Herby talk thyme 17:48, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. :) De728631 (talk) 18:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Template talk:Gesprochener Artikel[edit]

I'm sorry? What's the problem with my edit? --TMg 18:57, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Apologies but an IP edit with the summary "test" is quite typical of the current levels of vandalism. Had you been logged in I assure you I would not have reverted it. --Herby talk thyme 07:43, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
IP = vandal? Bad style. Please look at the content of an edit. This was no vandalism. --TMg 13:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Nope that is not what I said. I said that the combination of the edit summary and the fact that it was from an IP is very characteristic of sum Xrumer bot behaviours. I also apologised and I am genuinely sorry about it. --Herby talk thyme 13:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
You say you did not looked at the content of the edit? Is this how vandal fighting works? IP + short summary = revert? What do you think is the intention of a spam bot that adds a test template transclusion to a template talk page? It's not that I have a problem with vandal fighting. This is a very important job. Please delete more images (yes, I'm serious, there are way to much out-of-scope images at commons). But we (= all MediaWiki projects) have a major problem with new users giving up because their first edits "disapear" and they don't understand why. Please be careful. Thanks. --TMg 14:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Doesn't the XRumer one say "Test, just a test"? PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Photo of Cheetah[edit]

Hello. I was uploading this photo of Savannah the cheetah, and I received notice that you immediately deleted it. Why? The Flickr page clearly says it is released under a cc-by license. – Quadell (talk) 16:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, nevermind. When I tried to use the Flickr upload bot, I was told you had deleted the image before I had a chance to edit it (within seconds)... but the logs don't show that you deleted any images today at all. I think what happened is, you had previously deleted an image with the name I was trying to use, and the bot got confused. I apologize. Have a great day! – Quadell (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/112 live[edit]

I have tightened the filter to less edits, and removed a bit of text. There is still only the one false positive, I have set it to be actively blocking those, and I will look to see what we can do with 113. For the moment, I may turn it off, or we can look to the next iteration of 112, and tune it to pick any changes the spammers make.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

To a hardworking colleague[edit]

Verbascum densiflorum - close-up (aka).jpg

I know you're having a break right now, but thank you very much for all the hard work you do here and elsewhere. It's appreciated! Trijnsteltalk 01:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


Hello Herbythyme, is it other count ; Vanuatu1 (talk · contribs) You welcome. FrankyLeRoutier (talk) 10:18, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

a heads-up[edit]

In 2011 you participated in Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb_(de-adminship 2). That discussion ended with User:Jcb losing his administrator privileges.

This note is to inform you that User:Odder proposed Jcb have unconconditional access to administrator privileges restored.

Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb (readmin) is scheduled to close on May 20th.

Cheers Geo Swan (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Care to comment?[edit]

Hi Herbythyme, User:Jcb recently advised me to not to appeal for blocks against group usernames here. Since I have invoked a block action by you in the discussion, will you please comment in the discussion? TIA Rahul Bott (talk) 05:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Strange unblock reqs[edit]

This may be a coincidence, but it's weird enough to atleast show someone. Can you take a quick look at the unblock request for User talk:Nicolas-a (bottom of pg) and compare it to the unblock request for User talk:Badbuu1000 (bottom of pg)? What are the chances that 2 indef blocked users would use the same rationale word for word: "I'm awfully sorry and beg to unblock me please", and not be related? The Nicolas-a account uploads Russian copyvios, while User:Sridhar1000 and his usual socks like BadBuu1000 go for Indian stuff, but it still seems like a possible match. Thx for your time. BTW, I declined the unblock request of User:Nicolas-a independently of the possible sock angle. INeverCry 04:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Mail :) --Herby talk thyme 07:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Photographs of the Thekohser[edit] – Can you please move this image to Commons? There's now an enwiki article on Thekohser, and it lacks images. An image of Thekohser with the website that he's best known for would be most appropriate for the article. In addition, moving the image to Commons would repair a lot of broken embeds: --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

There is an image already on here which can be used for any articles in my opinion. --Herby talk thyme 15:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I know, but perhaps the 2009 photograph would be most appropriate since it includes a shot of MyWikiBiz in it. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but I have no time to deal with image requests. --Herby talk thyme 15:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
That's fine. We can continue this discussion at another time. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


INeverCry 02:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

What the hell...[edit]

Hey Herby, mate, what is going on? Any insight on why you've "up and left" would be great. You can of course contact me privately. In the event that you are leaving the project for good, and there is nothing that can be done about that, let me say thank you from myself and the rest of the community for all the great work you've done on this project over the years, and all the best for the future. Cheers, russavia (talk) 09:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Pretty much what russavia just said - we'll miss you. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

O_O Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


Anders Zorn - Vita liljor.jpg

Yeah, certainly. I'm happy we had you here for so long. All the best and hopefully you'll come back some time. I'll miss you. Trijnsteltalk 10:37, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

See you Nigel, and you're welcome to all the fish ;-). Lycaon 11:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That you'll be missed is a bit of an understatement. Hope to work with you again someday. INeverCry 18:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all your kind words, for your hard work fighting against spam bots and for your uploads. I never thought that I would ever admit this, but now lots of people I liked working with have quit… -- Rillke(q?) 21:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It's been a pleasure interacting with you over the years. Thanks for all your hard work, and good judgement calls! --Slaunger (talk) 21:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU and all the best. See you later in: Commons:We miss you. --Túrelio (talk) 21:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Me too. --99of9 (talk) 22:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Freedom to travel freely

Dear Herby, It is so sad for Commons that you leave it! Thank you for all you have done for the project. I wish you all the best. Your image here is used on that external page about freedom, maybe because a long time ago I added a special category on it :) Wishing you great wanderings and photography, avec mes très amicales pensées, --Myrabella (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all your hard work! We miss you!--Steinsplitter (talk) 16:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Just stopped by to show my appreciation, as well. Thanks for the email. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

On using CU on Commons[edit]

Those who know me well enough, and there are a few left, will not be that surprised that I have returned to post this (& it is all I will do). I have always had the greatest of respect for the communities who trusted me with CU with CU rights here and elsewhere so this statement is mostly for them. However it probably should be read by those who are ignorant of the day to day work done on the front line by admins here and on other projects as well as anyone else with an interest in the subject.

Over the years I have had the tools on various projects I have run thousands of CU actions. Maybe 2% of these have been on "real users". There has always been a valid reason for the action. Either an actual request or posting by an experienced trusted person on any admin board or my talk page would have got my attention and if warranted CU would have been run. On Commons I often found I was deleting a file recently uploaded (and deleted) by a different user name. If this had been deleted as a copyright violation or similar I would usually run CU - I have found 100s of accounts where puppets had been created to evade blocks and upload copyrighted files or totally out of scope images.

The other 98% of the checks have been on accounts created to disrupt or abuse projects. These accounts were almost always created on abused IP addresses (few are stupid enough to use their own IPs). In the old days these were folk such as "Willy on wheels", Haggar, Grawp and the like. For the past year or so projects have had a vast number of accounts created by scripts or programs such as Xrumer for spam/disruption. Some of these are used on the day they are created, some are dormant for months. There is no point "warning" such accounts - they are not used by humans, equally simply deleting the spam is pointless as it will be reposted for the same reason. Running CU on these allows the project more globally to be aware of problem IPs and often ranges that are being abused across many projects (Commons and Meta being hub projects are often the source of such accounts). My contact with stewards has allowed these to be reviewed for global blocking to try and keep the flood down. To give some idea of the scale of the problem I just checked Meta's user creation log from yesterday. Of around 100 accounts created there in the previous 24 hours I estimate that somewhere between a third and a half of those accounts are bot created for abuse - Commons figures will be similar.

That others do not use CU like this is of no real interest to me - I was a frontline admin here and elsewhere dealing with the day to day junk that arrives. Few do it and even fewer do it for long periods - I did. I didn't get it right all the time - I am human and I made mistakes but I did try and serve the communities that trusted me to the best of my ability.

There are a few people here who I have enormous respect for - a number have posted above for which thanks. However, while it has always irritated me when people say "Commons is broken" sadly that feels like the way it is to me. Too many people take joy in aggressive arguments (usually quite pointlessly) when there is always enough work to be done. When I look at the fact that I am being indirectly attacked for attempting to keep this community clear of bot attacks by people who are quite ignorant it saddens me. I think it highly unlikely I will ever be back. However I remain grateful to those in the community who trusted me. --Herby talk thyme 18:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts to prevent damage trough CUs. -- 18:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm grateful also as it.quote admin: your central anti-spam efforts allowed many small wikis admins like me to slack (and sometimes, get some useful stuff done). --Nemo 20:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Personal trust has nothing, absolutely nothing!, to do with having problems with the kind of the use of the tools. To critizise this is not to crizizise you. If you feel so - I'm sorry, it's never that, what I wanted to say. On the other hand is That others do not use CU like this is [us ?] of no real interest to me for me a bad argument. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Mich haben die Commons nie besonders interessiert, und ich bin selten bis nie einer Meinung mit Marcus Cyron. Was ich hier aber lese, veranlasst mich, die Commons ab sofort zu meiden. Wozu brauchen wir Fotografen? Die Missbrauchsfilter in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia sind bereits ein Gesetzesverstoß; die offenbar ohne jegliches oder im US-amerikanischen Rechtsverständnis durchgeführten CU machen mich sprachlos. --Liesbeth Lasst (talk) 23:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

So sorry to see you go. You have really been an asset to Commons. Hope all is well offline. Jonathunder (talk) 02:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


Welcome semi-back and possibly good bye again. It was nice to see you breeze in though. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 14:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

I echo the above sentiments; you've always been one I've enjoyed working with over the years. --O (висчвын) 01:41, 14 August 2013 (GMT)

Me too... apart from a few emails, you are not much around here anymore. How are you? Any chance of you coming back? Trijnsteltalk 22:32, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Glad to see you; once in a while, at least. JKadavoor Jee 13:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Bye bye, thanks for your work efforts. --cyrfaw (talk) 08:46, 16 April 2014 (UTC)