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Hinweis[edit]

Hallo Andre de, bitte unterlasse so etwas. Der Eintrag im Author-Feld ist für Nachnutzer rechtlich bindend. Allein der Urheber ist berechtigt die an die CC-Lizenz geknüpfte Attributionsvorgabe festzulegen. Im Lizenztext der CC-Lizenzen ist das Hereinnehmen einer sog. "attribution party" in die vorgegebene Attribution ausdrücklich vorgesehen.Abschnitt 4c. Ob bzw. welche Art von Attribution akzeptabel ist, ist Entscheidung der Commons-Community, nicht einzelner Benutzer. --Túrelio (talk) 22:37, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Dass es sich bei einer Webseite, die noch dazu in keinem Bezug zum Bild steht, um eine "party" handelt, erschließt sich mir jedoch nicht. Ich lese das auch nicht aus dem von Dir angegebenen Lizenztext heraus, dort geht es nach meinem Verständnis um die Angabe weiterer an der Entstehung des Bildes oder sonstwie an der Urheberschaft beteiligte Parteien. M.E. ist dieser Link einfach nur Werbung. --Andre de (talk) 23:33, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Es geht zunächst einmal darum, dass keiner außer dem Urheber das Recht hat, den Urhebervermerk bzw. die vom Urheber vorgegebene Attribution ohne dessen Einverständnis zu ändern. Das ist im Zweifelsfall sogar justiziabel. Ob eine konkrete Attribution unerwünscht ist oder den Commons/Wikimedia-Richtlinien zuwiderläuft, ist selbstverständlich diskutabel (was ja derzeit auch auf COM:AN/U erfolgt). Aber erst wenn dort Klarheit über einen Verstoß erreicht ist, kann der Urheber aufgefordert werden, die Attributionsvorgabe zu ändern. Auch dann ist keine eigenmächtige Änderung der Attributionsvorgabe durch Dritte erlaubt, vielmehr ist bei Verweigerung einer Anpassung seitens des Urhebers über die Löschung nachzudenken. --Túrelio (talk) 07:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danke Dir für die Erläuterung. Dass sich das Autor-Feld genauso leicht durch jeden Benutzer editieren lässt wie z.B. die Kategriezuordnung, ist vor diesem Hintergrund natürlich sehr unglücklich. Die Diskussion des konkreten Falls kannte ich nicht, danke für den Verweis. Ich werde diese beobachten und mich ggf. dort einbringen. Viele Grüße! Andre de (talk) 19:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Railway lines[edit]

Actually both are wrong:

Category:Leipzig-Plagwitz–Pörsten railway line uses two different dashes, a hyphen ( - ) and an en dash ( – ). The correct title would have 2 en dashes so it ought to be at Category:Leipzig–Plagwitz–Pörsten railway line

With regards to the Pörsten-Leipzig name, I agree that's its not the right name of the rail line. However, its not a misleading either (its a valid description) and the redirect may help users to find the correct location.--Nilfanion (talk) 12:38, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Leipzig-Plagwitz" is the name of one endpoint. In German its written with an hyphen, see de:Bahnhof Leipzig-Plagwitz. --Andre de (talk) 12:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh right... :)

I'd stand by the second bit though: The line is from Leipzig to Pörsten. Its equally true to say its the line from Pörsten to Leipzig so "Pörsten-Leipzig" isn't misleading. Of course, any files should be at the correct name, Pörsten-Leipzig should redirect to the correct location.--Nilfanion (talk) 13:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Criterion 2[edit]

Please check the meaning of completely meaningless names. 2009-05 Neuseddin.jpg was not at all completely meaningless. ...Sicherlich ^talk 15:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Das Bild zeigt den Bahnhof Seddin. Dieser heißt eben so und nicht "Neuseddin". Sorry für das ggf. unglücklich gewählte Kriterium bei der Begründung, es gibt aber kein auswählbares Kriterium "partly meaningless names". --Andre de (talk) 15:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danke für die Korrekturen...[edit]

...ich war wohl mit dem Potsdamer Platz, Brandenburger Tor und Unter den Linden etwas neben der Spur. ;)
Gruß --Fabian³¹⁸ (talk) 01:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gerne :-) Viele Grüße, Andre de (talk) 07:42, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bahnhof Horka[edit]

Sicher dass alle Bilder dieser Kategorie vom Personenbahnhof und nicht vom Güterbahnhof stammen? Falls ja sollte die Kategorie Horka Personenbahnhof o. ä. heißen. Näheres siehe bitte hier. |FDMS (WP: en, de) 17:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BTW: Kann es sein dass dir gestern User:Odder die Filemover-Rechte entzogen hat? Is it possible that yesterday User:Odder has removed your filemover rights? |FDMS (WP: en, de) 17:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@FDMS4: As I tried to explain to Andre yesterday, I gave him the filemover rights by mistake; I wanted to add him to the autopatrolled user group, but clicked the wrong button. This isn't to mean that I don't trust Andre with the tools, but there are very specific procedures to grant them (explained at COM:RFR), and I would prefer to respect those.

@Andre: Once again, I apologize for introducing the confusion; please do feel free to re–request the filemover permission at COM:RFR if you'd like to use the tools in the future. odder (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know that, just noticed the filemover→autopatrolled log entry on my watchlist which looked like a mistake to me (altough beeing filemover before autopatrolled is *quite* unusual), glad to hear that everything is fine. Thanks for your prompt reply! |FDMS (WP: en, de) 17:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@FDMS4: Yes, it is quite unusual indeed :-) I guess my screen flickered a bit and I missed the box I wanted to tick. I hope Andre isn't very disappointed about the situation (I'd hate it if he were…). Schönen Abend noch! odder (talk) 18:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@odder: No problem, I'm not disappointed . I only was little bit surprised.--Andre de (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nein, die Bilder (es sind genau 2) zeigen sowohl den Personen- als auch den Güterbahnhof. Darum heißt die Kategorie ja auch so und nicht "...Personenbahnhof". Bei gerade mal zwei Bildern macht es wohl nicht viel Sinn, hier noch eine Aufteilung vorzunehmen. Zumal in den allermeisten Fällen die Bilder eines Personen- und Güterbahnhofs in der gleichen Kategorie liegen (und auch im gleichen WP-Artikel beschrieben werden). Viele Grüße, Andre de (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kennst du den/die Bahnhof/Bahnhöfe? Ich würde nämlich sagen dass zwei Bahnhöfe in einem Ort nicht mit Bahnhof [Ort] zusammengefasst werden können, wenn du aber meinst dass man die de jure beiden Bahnhöfe auch als de facto einen Bahnhof sehen kann habe ich mit dem Kategorietitel kein Problem mehr. |FDMS (WP: en, de) 07:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Die Betriebsstellen liegen rund 700 Meter auseinander. Solange es nur zwei Bilder gibt, erscheint mir die Diskussion nicht relevant. Viel wichtiger wäre, ein paar mehr Fotos zusammenzutragen. --Andre de (talk) 00:04, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stadler Rail, Berlin-Pankow factory[edit]

Deine Bilder sind ganz große Klasse, aber die Beschreibungen vorsichtig ausgedrückt mies. Ich weiß auch, dass die Voreinstellung des Hochladeassistenten, Dateiname und Beschreibung auf alle mit einem Mal hochzuladende Bilder zu verteilen, zu sowas verleitet, aber deswegen muss man sie noch lange nicht nutzen. Kannst Du Dich nicht doch mal zu feindetaillierten Beschreibungen jedes einzelnen Bildes hinreißen lassen? Es muss ja nicht sofort und bei schönem Wetter sein, doch nichtssagende und gleichlautende Bildbeschreibungen sind derzeit eine echte Seuche. –Falk2 (talk) 00:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Freut mich, dass Dir die Fotos gefallen! Deine Kritik kann ich noch nicht ganz nachvollziehen, da ich alle meine Fotos auch mit einem Beschreibungstext ("description") versehe und mir dabei durchaus einige Mühe gebe. Also aktuelle Beispiele:

File:BVG-Baureihe IK17 im Stadler Werk Pankow (5).jpg: "Fertigung eines U-Bahn-Zugs der Baureihe IK17 im Stadler Werk Pankow, Führerstand"
File:Wagenkasten DB-Baureihe 483.jpg: "Erster vorgefertigter Wagenkasten der DB-Baureihe 483/484 für die S-Bahn Berlin im Stadler Werk Berlin-Pankow"

Oder sprichst Du von etwas anderem? Viele Grüße, Andre de (talk) 18:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bild vom Kulturdenkmal Benediktinerstr. 12[edit]

Hallo Andre, tut mit leid, aber einfach so weglöschen geht nicht. Ich habe dein bild nicht zum löschen vorgeschlagen, sondern habe es lediglich nachbearbeitet und das autokennzeichenn unleserlich gemacht, hier:

Ich habe nämlich gestern mit dem hauseigentümer gesprochen, und er findet diese art der veröffentlichung "schei...", na du weißt schon. Das ist laut mehrfach gehabter diskussionen bei WP grenzwertig. Aber wenn der besitzer sich verletzt fühlt, müssen wir das akzeptieren. Wo siehst du also ein problem?? Dein bild ist noch da und du als autor stehst auch weiterhin drin. Ich wiederhole deshalb den SLA für das erste foto. Grüße von den 44Pinguine (talk) 09:15, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nun, was der Hauseigentümer "schei..." findet, ist ja zunächst mal völlig irrelevant. Ich finde sein Auto auch hässlich, interessiert aber niemanden ;-) Ob die Abbildung eines Autokennzeichens irgendwelche Persönlichkeitsrechte verletzt, kann man diskutieren, das wäre dann aber der bessere Weg. Einen allgemeinen Konsens, dass Kennzeichen nicht abgebildet werden dürfen, kann ich auch mit Blick auf Category:Automobiles in Germany nicht erkennen und auch eine entsprechende Regel nicht finden. So oder so ist ein SLA für solche Fälle nicht angemessen, siehe die von mir schon verlinkten Regeln für einen SLA. Hier ist nichts angebrannt, bitte initiiere daher beim nächsten Mal bei Bedarf eine geordnete Löschdiskussion. Ich werde die neue Datei nachher nochmal mit einer unbeschnittenen (aber trotzdem anonymisierten) Variante überladen. Danke! Andre de (talk) 13:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, werde ich - falls es ein nächstes mal gibt - so machen. Nun hast du es aber erledigt und "das ist gut so". Ich stelle mir zudem vor, dass jemand mit meinem eigentum so umgehen würde - da hätte ich auch was dagegen und würde wohl sogar bis zur klage auf rücknahme gehen. Aber nun ist es ja

Done.
Ich hab übrigens bei dem Projekt Straßen und Plätze in berlin fast alle meine fotos so nachbearbeitet (und es waren viele!); sogar personen, die zufällig ins bild gerieten, habe ich unkenntlich gemacht. 44Pinguine (talk) 15:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stadler Pankow[edit]

Are you sure it is only Stadler Rail factory? In my opinion and according to Stadler website it is separate company - Stadler Pankow GmbH, Berlin Pankow, Deutschland. In situation like that we have category named as company name, for example Stadler Polska‎, because it is Stadler Polska Sp. z o.o. - part of Stadler group, but not Stadler Rail factory. Muri (talk) 09:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I just solved the 100% redundancy of these categories. For me it's also fine to move the existing category to a better name. When creating the Category:Stadler Rail, Berlin-Pankow factory, I adapted the name according to existing factories in Category:Stadler Rail. But please take care, that there is a difference between the company and the factory, because also the factory in Velten belongs to Stadler Pankow GmbH (see de:Stadler Rail#Deutschland). So at first we should categorize on factory level (to keep location info), and optionally to group the factory to company names. --Andre de (talk) 11:09, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point of view, but in my opinion it is wrong to call Pankow a factory of Stadler Rail, because it is one of two factories of Stadler Pankow GmbH. The second one, as you said, is Velten. In my opinion we shoud categorize on company level at first - they have notability and can have their own articles on Wiki, factories rather not + we do not lose location info as well, because companies are named after locations. Moreover, if company has one factory it is good, because in this case company and factory is actually the same. If company has few factories it is also good, because we can group all factories belonging to company in its category. To sum up - I will see this that way:

Stadler Rail
- Stadler Altenrhein (one factory = company)
- Stadler Bussnang (one factory = company)
- Stadler Pankow
  - Stadler Pankow factory in Berlin-Pankow
  - Stadler Service and Commissioning Centre in Velten
- Stadler Polska (one factory = company) and so on...

And one more thing - I incidentally created Stadler Pankow category, because I did not see your category in Stadler Rail cat. Everything there is called Stadler Rail, place factory or in case of one category inconsistently Stadler Rail, factory place and I just missed it. We need to unify this, preferably the way I presented above. Muri (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS You reffered to de-wiki when mentioning Velten. Well, I feel that companies and factories of Stadler are described better on pl-wiki. ;) Muri (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine for me. In this structure, the content of existing Category:Stadler Rail, Berlin-Pankow factory maches 1:1 to your "Stadler Pankow factory in Berlin-Pankow". For Velten, there exists only one photo in Stadler Rail category. Later I'll upload some more pictures from outside the Pankow building, also usefull for the Wikipedia articles. --Andre de (talk) 12:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks in advance for further photos! I was in Berlin in 2016 - my main goal was InnoTrans, but I also saw factory in Pankow. Unfortunately, only from the outside - behind the fence were painted body shells of FLIRTs for DB. How did you get inside and had opportunity to take photos there? Do you represent media or are you an employee of Stadler? Muri (talk) 13:09, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There was a public event this summer, organized by Stadler Pankow, with opportunity to look inside production place and a train exibition on the outside area. It was very interesting. Have fun at InnoTrans 2018 ;-) --Andre de (talk) 16:24, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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