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Geachte heer Ron 
 Heb Bert Kiewiet persoonlijk goed gekend.
 Voor het beeld de museun bezoekers hebben mijn vrouw en ik met een vriend van ons model 
 gestaan .
 Het beeld is niet meer in zijn originele staat. Het raamwerk was oorspronkelijk ook van brons
 maar door vernielingingen vervangen door een metalen frame .
 Tot mijn verbazing zie ik nu dat het beeld nog maar uit 2 personen bestaat. 
 De persoon die naast mijn vrouw staat is de heer Jan Niks uit Emmen en dus niet Kiewiet zelf.
 Bert vond de been houding van mijn vrouw apart .
 Heb diverse groot formaat zwart-wit foto's van het model staan voor dit beeld en kranten 
 artikelen .
 Ben in het bezit van 2 beelden van hem .
 
 Met vriendelijke groet 
 
 Willem Kuiper    wilkuip@ya.com

archery.org/FITA images[edit]

Please stop uploading these images claiming they are free to use. Copyright note: © All photographs within this site are protected under International rights of reproduction law: © FITA and photographers. All rights reserved. Images may be downloaded for the purpose of viewing only. The images may not be reproduced, distributed or republished electronically or in print without a written permission from the author. --Denniss (talk) 23:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Please read the information on the FITA site: The pictures are free of charge and can be used with the condition that you state the source (by courtesy FITA/photographers). Ronn (talk) 11:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
May I ask where FITA license their photos under a Creative Commons license? Regards, Thuresson (talk) 12:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure about all the different types of licenses. I choose the license which I thought was the most appropriate regarding "can be used with the condition that you state the source" (as stated on the FITA site, see above). Ronn (talk) 17:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Since the FITA page does not explicitly say that the images are released under a Creative commons license I suggest you either remove the CC license from the images here on Commons and replace them with "The pictures are free of charge and can be used with the condition that you state the source (by courtesy FITA/photographers)" or (better) that you contact FITA and ask if they would be willing to release the images under a CC license and that thet say so on their web page so we can link to it. --Bensin (talk) 19:19, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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I provided a link. Ronn (talk) 19:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion request Jos Lussenburg[edit]

Hi Ron, (en English for international readers).

I got your message that you made a deletion-request regarding: Lussenburg1.JPG It might be correct that the rights aren't OK for publication on Commons, but I'm not convinced that it should be deleted.

The image is a self made low quality photograph of the original painting. The painting in question is fully owned by me. I couldn't find the exact rules to follow regarding the rights of the image. As mentioned in the deletion-request: the painter of the work died in 1975. We bought that painting (together with another painting of the same artist) in 1972 directly from the artist. After we bought both paintings the artist asked us if he could get this and the other painting back for a few days to make new (professional) photo's of both paintings as the original photoshoot (before the exhibition where we aquired the paintings) failed.

One of the new pictures was used in the book De Stervende Zuiderzee (but not this painting). As far as I know this painting isn't included in any book.

What is the (copyright) status of a picture taken from a painting someone owns. Please let me know where I can find the apropiate rule(s)?

Many thanks, --Tonkie (talk) 22:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello Tonkie, I'm not sure if I can explain it in proper English, but I'll give it a try: Dutch copyright laws are very strict. Regarding to statues there is a rule that's sometimes called 'freedom of panorama', this means if a sculpture is permanently placed in public, you are allowed to take pictures and use them. Paintings do not belong to 'freedom of panorama'. The rule in this case, is that you need permission. Not from the owner of the painting, but from the painter. You can only use the picture if he/she deceased more than 70 years ago. You can read more about it on this page.
Placing a low quality photograph for Wikipedia only may in some cases be allowed on the English version ('fair use'-policy), but not on the Dutch one and -as far as I know- also not on Commons. Greetings, Ronn

About a deletion...[edit]

I uploaded this picture about a statue around one year ago, it's been on the wikipedia page since then. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Antwerpen-Antigoon.JPG

However I got a message yesterday that it was deleted because "Belgium has no freedom of panorama" and according to the reference: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:FOP#Belgium

There is no panorama freedom in Belgium. The modern pieces of art cannot be the central motive of a commercially available photographs without permission of the artwork copyright holder

I'm not too convinced that it applies in this case. Or may be we should also delete all the other pictures of the same category from this list: Image:2005_manneke_pis05.jpg Image:Cinquantenaire.jpg Image:JacobVAGent.JPG among many many others


Or may be the picture should be placed like this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atomium_20-08-07.jpg

Dear Ph.viny, I'm not happy with the fact that there's no FOP in Belgium. But it's not my law. ;-) And yes, I'm afraid more pictures should be deleted. However, that doesn't mean all pictures of statues will have to go; The Cinquantenaire for instance can stay, Thomas Vinçotte died in 1925, more than 70 years ago. And 'Manneke pis' is not a 'modern piece of art' either, it was made in 1619! Ronn (talk) 06:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Let me add this info: Fair Use images like File:Atomium 20-08-07.jpg are not allowed on Wikimedia Commons. As is the case with nl.wikipedia as well. Sorry,--Gerardus (talk) 07:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Willem de Vlamingh[edit]

Hi Ronn, toevalling ben ik al een week bezig met foto's en artikelen m.b.t. Australië, waar ik Willem de Vlamingh ook al tegenkwam. Ik heb de gevonden foto's nu in een cat. samengevoegd met de door jou bewerkte Vlieland-foto.

Ik begrijp je aktie om het Fop-sjabloon weg te halen. Ik heb er vorig jaar weken over gedaan om dat diverse mensen aan hun verstand te peuteren (Nl. + vooral De), dat het absoluut zinloos is om al die duizenden foto's uit Ned. en Duitsland en elders te voorzien van het uiterst bizarre FOP-sjabloon. Ik heb geen idee wie ze waarmee willen waarschuwen. Het is overigens een niet voor ons bestemde mededeling, maar gericht op de arme zielen die in NIET-FOP landen wonen. Mijn stelling is dat onze foto's door hen gebruikt kunnen worden ook in NIET-FOP wikipedia's. Hun stelling is dat dat niet zo is. We komen niet nader tot elkaar en ik heb mijn twijfel over de sjabloonplaatsing geuit en daarmee kennelijk basta. De discussie liep vanzelf op de klippen. Naast FOP/NIET-FOP is er een evengroot probleem genaamd Fair Use op en.wikipedia en dat vind ik persoonlijk nog veel ergelijker. Groetend, Gerard.--Gerardus (talk) 11:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Het blijft een rare discussie dat hele FOP-gedoe. Als ik me keurig aan de regels houdt en een foto van een standbeeld in België voor verwijdering nomineer, krijg ik te horen dat de foto mag blijven omdat er een gebouw op de achtergrond staat. Een zelfde soort foto vanuit een andere hoek wordt wel verwijderd. Tja... En als de NLse wetgever duidelijk aangeeft dat er wel sprake is van FOP, zoals nu bij De Vlamingh, wordt er een sjabloon bij een foto geplakt. Raar! Ik zal me er maar niet te druk over maken. Gr. Ronn (talk) 09:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

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Beste Ronn, bedankt voor je waarschuwing. Ik ben copyrightholder en zal een permission mailtje sturen. Voorbeeldtekst daarvan gevonden. Het enige is dat ik niet helemaal de weg kan vinden tussen al die verschillende licenties. Er is zoveel over geschreven. Welk type licentie kan ik het beste geven?--77.165.165.148 11:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Als je de toestemmingsgegevens mailt, zullen die worden beoordeeld door een moderator. De moderator zal vervolgens het licentiegebeuren in orde maken. Gr. Ronn (talk) 14:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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I provided a link. Ronn (talk) 10:12, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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Again? Sigh... Ronn (talk) 07:56, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Mol[edit]

Beste Ron,

Tot mijn verbazing zag ik dat je de foto van Hubertus Mol had verwijderd. Natuurlijk ben ik niet de fotograaf maar de naaste familie van dhr Mol had mijn gevraagd en toestemming gegeven om deze foto te gebruiken.

Ik zou dan ook graag zien dat hij teruggezet werd.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Jan Bax jbee123 jfcmbax@ziggo.nl

Ik heb de foto niet verwijderd, dat heeft een moderator gedaan. Commons is nu eenmaal -terecht- strikt met auteursrechten. Je hebt toestemming nodig van de fotograaf, of diens erfgenamen, en dient ook aan te tonen dat je over die toestemming beschikt. Gr. Ronn (talk) 13:50, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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BaseSat (talk) 14:11, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Glas-in-loodraam Hoendiepskade[edit]

Moi Ronn, heb jij toevallig enig idee wie dit glas-in-loodraam zou kunnen hebben gemaakt? In de monumentbeschrijving is er helaas niets over te vinden en ook een rondje KB-krantenarchief levert niets op. Groet, Wutsje 16:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Moi Wutsje, ik ben op dat terrein niet thuis. Jammer dat het niet zichtbaar gesigneerd is. Gr. Ronn (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Zeker. Het is overigens slechts één raam uit een zesdelig venster, dat ook in zijn geheel alleszins de moeite waard is om te bekijken (wat overigens voor het hele gebouw geldt). Zelf ben ik er gewoon naar binnen gelopen, wat me prompt een rondleiding opleverde. Dank voor je reactie en groet, Wutsje 18:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

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Bedankt voor je bedankje. Ik zie dat je de foto iets aangepast hebt. Ik ben daar niet zo handig in. Ik heb gewoon meerdere plaatjes geschoten, met stoepje, zonder stoepje, een grotere voorgrond. Ik heb daar uitgekozen wat mij het beste leek. Maar wat jij doet is denk ik veel handiger.
Kun je die geraniums ook niet wegpoetsen? Ik vind dat nogal storend. Ik durfde ze niet goed weg te halen om de foto te maken.

Er staat ook een Mariabeeld, althans ik neem aan dat het Maria is. Is daar ook een lijst van? Haagschebluf (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Ik scrolde eens door de Lijst van Heilig Hartbeelden in Nederland en het leek alsof ze allemaal aan het waggelen waren. Ik zet ze sindsdien graag even rechtop. Of ik knip ze uit een grotere foto. Ik kan de foto wel bewerken, je kunt natuurlijk ook één van je andere foto's uploaden, zeg het maar. Er is geen aparte lijst voor Mariabeelden, die kunnen gewoon op een "Lijst van beelden in..". Ronn (talk) 19:30, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Ik vind de afbeelding zoals die nu staat prima. Ik heb altijd alles een beetje scheef. Maar als jij het recht kunt zetten, prima. Alleen die geraniums, die storen me. Ik kan in de herfst nog wel een keer een plaatje nemen, maar dan zullen er wel winterviooltjes of chrysanten voorstaan. Schiet ook niet op. Mocht je nog eens foto's nodig hebben, dan laat het maar weten. In het gebied tussen Nijmegen/Zutphen en Betuwe/Duitse grens, kan ik wel wat maken. Haagschebluf (talk) 20:06, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

File:M. Mendels.jpg[edit]

Hi Ronn,

Waaruit blijkt dat File:M. Mendels.jpg vrijgegeven is onder een CC BY 2.5-licentie?

Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 11:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Ik wist niet beter dan dat het materiaal van Parlement.com was vrijgegeven onder die licentie, we gebruiken daarom ook dit sjabloon op Wikipedia. Op de overlegpagina daar staat echter -terecht- dat het PDC mogelijk niet over het auteursrecht van foto's beschikt. Als je twijfelt, moet de foto maar weg. Er is een alternatief beschikbaar. Ronn (talk) 20:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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Dememorixer[edit]

Hi Ronn, I noticed you uploaded a much higher resolution version of File:Balthasar Daniel van Idsinga.jpg. Thanks for that. I also noticed it contained a lot of jpeg-noise. Is that part of the original at RKD or can you influence that with the dememorixer? If yes, could you set the quality a bit higher? Regards, --Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

De kwaliteit van de RKD-foto's verschilt nogal. Ik haal soms vlekken weg of probeer wat te verscherpen, maar wonderen kan ik niet verrichten. ;) Voor zover ik weet is het enige wat Dememorixer doet de originele foto 'plukken', de kwaliteit wordt daarbij niet beïnvloed. Je kunt Vera eens vragen, zij heeft de tool ontwikkeld. Ronn (talk) 09:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Ik vind het erg jammer dat je de lijst hebt verwijderd. Ik zou de cropped versie als nieuw bestand uploaden, zodat je beide bestanden naast elkaar hebt. Ronn (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Ach, die lijst... Ik heb de lijstversie apart geupload omdat deze afbeelding van het begin af aan lijstloos is geweest. --Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 13:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Maar dat was in het pre-Dememorixer-tijdperk, toen we nog om logo's heen moesten werken. ;) Ronn (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey, ik zie dat je ook een paar dingen van de Beeldbank Groningen heeft overgezet. Die website is wat vervelend in dat ze de permalink naar een afbeelding niet duidelijk publiceren. Je kan hem wel vinden via de "tweet dit" button. Ik heb een Greasemonkey script geschreven die de "deel op facebook" knop veranderd in een link naar de permalink. Vind het script hier. --Vera (talk) 17:57, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Als ik op je link klik krijg ik in Chrome de melding "Apps, extensies en gebruikersscripts kunnen niet worden toegevoegd vanaf deze website." Ik kom er helaas niet achter hoe ik verder moet. Ronn (talk) 18:19, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
In Chrome moet je eerst Tampermonkey installeren. --Vera (talk) 18:50, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'll try the gadget, thanks. Ronn (talk) 20:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Vera (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

File:Frederik Schmidt-Degener (1881-1941). Hoofddirecteur van het Rijksmuseum te Amsterdam (1922-41) Rijksmuseum SK-A-3268.jpeg[edit]

You appear to have marked this as no permission in error. Could you either remove or convert to a DR with an explanation? Thanks -- (talk) 09:08, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

What's the error? It lacks permission and it's neither PD or CC0. Copyrights belong to the artist's heirs, as stated on your source. Ronn (talk) 12:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC) PS I converted it to a DR.
Thanks. -- (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Ronn seems to be right: Harm Kamerlingh Onnes died in 1985. However, it might be no coincidence that this painting is the only painting of the artist H.K.O. that is visible on the Rijksmuseum website page about HKO (see website Rijksmuseum here). Dutch copyright law permits two "escapes" in this case: (1) the heirs give explicit permission or (2) copyrights were explicitly transferred to the Rijksmuseum when the painting of the museum director was commissioned by the Rijksmuseum. See also Dutch copyright law, articles 2.3, 12b (not yet in Engl. transl.) & 19. I sent an email to the Rijksmuseum asking clarification. Vysotsky (talk) 15:18, 4 January 2016 (UTC)