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OTRS[edit]

Please return photos - written consent to the publication of photos has been sent 16.4. - see:


Original Message-----

From: Hanna [1] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM To: 'Informační tým Wikipedie' <permissions-cs@wikimedia.org>; 'Martin Urbanec' <martin.urbanec@wikimedia.cz> Subject: FW: Souhlas prof. Bauerová

Pro heslo: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zde%C5%88ka_Bauerov%C3%A1 hk

I sent again, also to the "info-wiki .."...I've already done it.... nothing.... photos did not return. I am sending the consent once again in an attachment. can you return the photos? thanks hana - druhák--Druhák (talk) 10:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Please send us the ticket number you've received. --Ganímedes (talk) 11:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't know what number, I didn't get anything...I never got a number - no photos for other passwords on the wiki.....I'd love to send your approval repeatedly - just tell me - where. I do not want to lose the results of my work. druhák--Druhák (talk) 08:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@Druhák, Ganímedes: I am seeing three tickets about "FW: Souhlas prof. Bauerová" from 16 April on: Ticket:2021041610006221, Ticket:2021050310004941, and Ticket:2021050310004978. Sorry, our systems are not set to auto-reply with ticket numbers for all queues yet, and the permissions-cs queue is 56 days long. Pinging @Martin Urbanec as involved.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
and So what? should I wait 56 days?....just to live. I'm not the youngest...or should I do something else?......and won't the photos be lost in memory? shouldn't the lubrication period be extended? hana - druhák--Druhák (talk) 07:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@Druhák, Ganímedes: I merged the tickets to Ticket:2021041610006221 and requested undeletion at COM:UDR#Photos of Zdeňka Bauerová.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 08:30, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@Druhák: Can you send the text of the document you printed, as text? I can't read Czech, and Google Translate doesn't like the PDF. Also, in future please use file URLs via email, and use internal links on-wiki.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 08:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Uvolnění fotografií

Já, Zdeňka Bauerová, nar. 17.11.1930, majitel fotografií ze souboru Zdeňka Bauerová a zároveň autor zobrazeného díla, nahraného na Wikimedia Commons pod názvy uvedenými níže, souhlasím s publikací zmíněného díla pod licencí Creative Commons Uveďte původ - Zachovejte licenci 4.0 Mezinárodní (plný text https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.cs), dále též jen jako Licence. ● Beru na vědomí, že toto dílo může být libovolně upravováno a přebíráno dalšími stranami k jakémukoli účelu, včetně komerčních, za předpokladu dodržení podmínek Licence a aplikovatelných zákonů. ● Beru na vědomí, že toto svolení není omezeno na Wikipedii a její sesterské projekty. ● Beru na vědomí, že vlastníku autorských práv tato práva zůstávají, stejně jako právo být uveden v souladu s Licencí. Modifikace ostatních nebudou implikovat, že tyto modifikace byly provedeny vlastníkem autorských práv. ● Beru na vědomí, že tento souhlas nemohu odvolat a že uvolněný obsah může, ale nemusí, být trvale publikován na Projektech Wikimedia.

Podpis: _____________________ datum: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Druhák (talk • contribs) 12:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC) Názvy uvolněných fotografií

File:Návrh Zdeňka Bauerová sako.jpg File:Model - Zdeňka Bauerová.jpg a zveřejněny https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N%C3%A1vrh_Zde%C5%88ka_Bauerov%C3%A1_sako.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Model_-_Zde%C5%88ka_Bauerov%C3%A1.jpg souhlasím s tím, aby tyto moje fotografie byly zveřejněny prostřednictvím Wikimedia Commons, pod licencí Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International (zkráceně české znění: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.cs). Beru na vědomí, že tyto fotografie /děl Zdeňky Bauerové mohou být libovolně upravovány a přebírány dalšími stranami k jakémukoli účelu včetně komerčních. Přeji si, aby za autora těchto fotografií byl označen Zdeňka Bauerová.

Názvy uvolněných fotografií

File:Zdeňka Bauerová.jpg a zveřejněny https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zde%C5%88ka_Bauerov%C3%A1.jpg souhlasím s tím, aby tyto moje fotografie byly zveřejněny prostřednictvím Wikimedia Commons, pod licencí Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International (zkráceně české znění: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.cs). Beru na vědomí, že tyto fotografie Zdeňky Bauerové mohou být libovolně upravovány a přebírány dalšími stranami k jakémukoli účelu včetně komerčních. Přeji si, aby za autora těchto fotografií byl označen Zdeňka Bauerová (archív). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Druhák (talk • contribs) 13:36, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Druhák: Thank you. Who was the photographer of File:Zdeňka Bauerová.jpg?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 13:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jeff G., While writing the password "Zdeňka Bauerová", I also collaborated with her colleague (she is 90 years old) ... the author of the photo is someone (we don't know who) from Atelier Ago d´Oro (https://www.agodoro.cz/), where prof. Bauerová sometimes still works. They put the photograph in her archive for her needs, and agreed that it would be listed as "Zdeňka Bauerová - archive". And they also let her sign the consent - and sent it to me signed: I sent all mail correspondence with ago d´oro on "permission..": Sent: Friday, May 07, 2021 3:36 PM To: 'Informační tým Wikipedie' <permissions-cs@wikimedia.org> Subject: RE: [Ticket#2021041610006221]....

So maybe that's explained enough. Everyone was very happy with the result of the cooperation. Thanks for your understanding and help Hana - Druhák--Druhák (talk) 16:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jeff G.,..I'm in no hurry... I'm just asking - only.... Is this information enough?...hana - druhák--Druhák (talk) 09:34, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: The image File:Zdeňka Bauerová.jpg was deleted on 6th of June 2021) because lacking OTRS permission. I am not sure why the permission was not granted, I was trying to clarify (in the image description) the issue about authorship (see above) and I believe that the permission from the copyright holder ([Ticket#2021041610006221]) was sufficient. I ask the admin who deleted the image but they (as well as me) cannot se the ticket directly. Could you please tell me what needs to be done to save the image? Thanks --Vojtěch Veselý (talk) 15:52, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Druhák, Vojtěch Veselý: No, sorry, that information is not enough. We need an identification of the photographer of File:Zdeňka Bauerová.jpg and (permission from that person or their heir or written assignment of copyright to Atelier Ago d´Oro and permission from them).   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:48, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm crying. The professor Bauerová (the person in the photo) is happy, when her photo is on the wiki. Agrees in writing. The studio Ago dóro (author of the photo) is glad, that the photo is on the wiki. Agrees in writing. But it's not enough for “Jeff” (wiki commons). I end up for a wiki. Druhák--Druhák (talk) 16:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

File:Julian Walder - Wien 2020.jpg[edit]

Hallo liebes Team, ich habe vor 14 Tagen ein Formular über die FREIE LIZENZ für im Betreff genanntes Bild vom Inhaber Julian Walder und vom Fotografen Andrej Grilc (Urheber)als Email an das Team ORTS gesendet und hatte Kontakt mit Hr. Neumann, welcher aber seit dem 15. Mai verschollen ist- Ticket:2021051410010299 FREIE LIZENZ von Inhaber und Fotograf (Urheber) - mittlerweile mit Unterschrift von beiden Inhaber und Urheber an 'permissions-commons@wikimedia.org'; 'Permissions - German Wikipedia' <permissions-de@wikimedia.org> gesendet, aber keine Reaktion mehr bekommen und das Bild ist nach wie vor nicht freigegeben! Liebe Grüße --Celklavio (talk) 21:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)Celklavio

Sorry for my English, please be a bit patient, the agents of the mail service are sometimes very busy. And we all are volunteers. Kind regards, Elly (talk) 16:55, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Duplicate copyright violation ticket[edit]

I noticed this ticket Ticket:2021060110002141 today but it is the same request as this 3 month old open unfinished ticket Ticket:2021033010002101 with several emails. Perhaps someone can investigate further or perhaps merge. Ww2censor (talk) 11:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I've requested help long time ago, but no one answer, so... --Ganímedes (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Indeed Ganímedes I saw your request which is why, after seeing the new ticket, I posted here so someone else might chime in as it is not really my area but I am giving the new ticket Ticket:2021060110002141 a go to solve the false copyright claims. Post a note if you think you can help out. The older ticket will be closed. Ww2censor (talk) 10:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Regarding accounts affiliated with organizations / custom license tags[edit]

Hi, from time to time we receive requests to verify the affiliation of a particular Wikimedia username to that of an organization. We see this case mostly for uploading media on a large scale. In such cases, we generally create a custom template that they can use with all their further uploads. There are 600+ such cases on Commons, in this category. While I have processed a handful of such tickets myself, I don't exactly remember how I have learnt the process. Strangely, I couldn't find any documentation for such cases, neither on Commons nor on the VRT-Wiki (actually it was pointed out to me by another volunteer). There isn't documentation neither for VRT volunteers to process such tickets or for organizations to initiate such a process. I might very well be missing something, so just wanted to ask around. If there isn't any, it will be worthwhile writing some documentation. Thoughts please, --KCVelaga (talk · mail) 15:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@KCVelaga: I make organizational permission templates occasionally, when the organization expresses an intent to keep uploading and avoid additional interaction with Agents. I started by copying custom wikitext, but then it got easier when I found and started using {{Source-Layout2}}. For an organization example, please see {{EPFL}}.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 18:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Yes, I agree. My point, there isn't any documentation regarding this practice. KCVelaga (talk · mail) 13:09, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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File:Chin & Chilla, 1986.jpg - Wiederherstellung, Ticket#2021030210012385[edit]

Ich habe das file: »Chin_&_Chilla,_1986.jpg« am 1. März 2021 hochgeladen und Christian Zecha, der das Foto gemacht hat, hat am 2. März 2021 eine Einverständniserklärung an permissions-en@wikimedia.org geschickt:

I, Christian Zecha, confirm in regard to the image known as »Chin_&_Chilla,_1986.jpg« that: I photographed it myself.

I hereby permit everyone to use the image under free license Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. I therefore grant third parties the right, under intellectual property law, to use the image (including for commercial purposes) and to modify the image, provided they do so in compliance with the licensing terms. I am aware that in most cases I will not be able to revoke this authorization. I am aware that the free license is limited to intellectual property rights and related rights, and that I am therefore free to take action against third parties on the basis of other laws (governing personality rights, trademark rights, etc.) if those parties use the image in compliance with the free license but in violation of other laws. Nevertheless, I do not assert any right to have the image appear permanently on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons.

Yours sincerely, Christian Zecha

Er hat folgende Antwort erhalten:

Von: Permissions - English Wikipedia Datum: 2. März 2021 um 21:36:19 MEZ An: "Zecha, Christian" Betreff: [Ticket#2021030210012385] Confirmation of receipt (Re: Chin_&_Chilla)

Dear Zecha Christian,

Thank you for your email. This is an automatically generated response to inform you that your message has been received. Because all emails are handled by volunteers, it may take some time for us to reply. We kindly ask for your patience and understanding as we try our best to reply as quickly as possible. If your article or file has been deleted in the meantime, please don't worry. Any administrator can restore these later.

If you want to send more emails about the same subject, please add the following to the subject bar of the email: [Ticket#: 2021030210012385].

Yours sincerely,

The Volunteer Response Team

Ich glaube er hat nicht den ganzen Titel der Datei in den Betreff geschrieben, vielleicht ist die Bestätigung deshalb untergegangen?

Am 22. April habe ich noch einmal bei permissions-en@wikimedia.org nachgefragt und leider noch keine Antwort erhalten. Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn das Bild nun wieder hergestellt werden könnte. Danke!

Preschit (talk) 09:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Use of image[edit]

I requested permission from a photographer to use an image of theirs recently, and they granted it. Unfortunately, this person does not speak English fluently, so I'm not sure how to get them to send you an email for confirmation. Korean is their native language. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 22:43, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

We've got a permissions-ko queue, but it's got 250+ days of delay. --Ganímedes (talk) 13:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

ticket #2011102310008874[edit]

Hi, I'd be very grateful if someone could take a look at the correspondence related to this ticket for me please. I was hoping to use the image at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pulm_embolism.jpg, and possibly some other images from ECGpedia that can be found on Wikimedia under a CC BY-SA 3.0 license, commercially. However the source link takes you to the ECGpedia page itself where the same image is shown under a CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 license. On Wikimedia it states that "Wikimedia Foundation has received an e-mail confirming that the copyright holder has approved publication under the terms mentioned on this page." I'm a bit confused about the same image being available under these contradictory licenses. I tried previously to get a answer regarding this from ecgpedia but haven't heard from them, any chance someone could help me out by looking at the email and/or explaining the difference to me? I was under the impression an image could only be available under one of those 2 licenses, not both. Thanks in advance for any help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newestuser2021 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Newestuser2021: Sometimes authors agree to license their work to us under a free licence, which is what the ticket verifies, but they still use a restrictive licence on their own website or elsewhere. That's fine so long as you comply with the terms of the licence AND attribute it correctly to us here as the source, preferable with a full url link. Please sign your posts by adding four tildes, like this ~~~~ on all talk pages. Ww2censor (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello @Ww2censor:, thank you very much for your help! That's reassuring to hear, and I would definitely attribute it fully including a source link to wikimedia. Is there any way for me to access the ticket myself so I can verify and have a record of the copyright holder giving permission, or is that private between Wikimedia and the copyright holder? Kind regards, Newestuser2021 (talk) 08:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately no Newestuser2021. Tickets are only seen by a small number of volunteer editors in the privacy of direct communications with copyright holders. The ticket number is the verification and is the evidence of the licence of any particular file. Ww2censor (talk) 13:44, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

« Liberté de panorama » /« Freedom of panorama »[edit]

FRANÇAIS + ENGLISH

FRANÇAIS Bonjour. Je vous écris au nom de Langloys, un sculpteur français qui verse depuis 2016 sur Wikimedia les photos de ses œuvres exposées en extérieur. Récemment, un contributeur nommé Rehabmamet a proposé la suppression de toutes ses photos parce que la « liberté de panorama » n'est pas acceptée sur Wikimedia France. Il me semble pourtant que le fait que ce sculpteur soit lui-même l'auteur des œuvres qu'il a photographiées et placées sous licence CC BY-SA 4.0 constitue une exception à cette règle: puisqu'il en est l'auteur, il n'y a aucune enfreinte de copyright. Pourriez-vous me donner votre avis? Un grand merci d'avance! Tatvam (talk) 18:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

ENGLISH Hello. I am writing on behalf of Langloys, a French sculptor who has been uploading photos of his outdoor exhibits to Wikimedia since 2016. Recently, a contributor named Rehabmamet proposed the deletion of all his photosgraphs because "freedom of panorama" is not accepted on Wikimedia France. However, it seems to me that the fact that this sculptor is himself the author of the works he photographed and placed under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license constitutes an exception to this rule: since he is the author, there is no copyright infringement whatsoever. Could you give me your opinion? Many thanks in advance! Tatvam (talk) 18:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Tatvam:, I think this has nothing to do with Panorama freedom. If as you say, Mr. Langloys is as well the sculptor as the photographer, he can give whatever license he wants to the images, such as CC_BY_SA for use on the Wikimedia projects. However, it would perhaps be wise to avoid future problems if @Langloys: can confirm his identity to OTRS. Please ask him to mail to the French queue if he likes to write in French: permissions-fr@wikimedia.org. Kind regards, Elly (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your advice. One last thing: after sending his mail to OTRS, should he place the {{subst:OP}} template on all the concerned images (there are ten of them) or just on one? All the best: Tatvam (talk) 10:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tatvam: All, please.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 11:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Langloys, si vous avez une adresse mel "officielle" (celle indiquée sur site web par exemple, à https://www.langloys-sculpteur.com/contact/), il vaut mieux de l'utiliser pour le ticket. Il suffit de dire: "Langloys est mon nom utilisateur et je confirme d'être le sculpteur Sébastien Langloÿs" À envoyer à permissions-fr@wikimedia.org. Merci ! Ruthven (msg) 09:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Ticket:2021060910012027[edit]

Can someone please take a look at Ticket:2021060910012027 and give some ideas? Thanks. --Ganímedes (talk) 22:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Ganímedes: My 2¢ worth. This looks like a sort of bystander selfie or even self-portrait, where the subject has the control of posing, expressions, etc., so they have the artistic (!) control. In that case the subject is the author and the booth is essentially like a camera on a tripod. The additional text, added by others appears to too trivial to affect the main image's copyright in any significant way. Ww2censor (talk) 11:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

ticket:2012011710005331[edit]

In Commons:Deletion requests/File:Јелена Тинска.jpg an IP claims that the uploader of File:Јелена Тинска.jpg doesn't have permission from the photographer. However, the image carries OTRS-ticket 2012011710005331 since nearly 1 year, which had been added by bot. Could an agent eventually re-check the permission? --Túrelio (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I think the ticket is in Servian/Bosnian. Elly (talk) 22:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@Dungodung:, @Brest: can you understand the ticket? (I found you can understand the sr language from this - inclomplete - list of VRT agents: m:VRT/Personnel). Elly (talk) 10:44, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
The release was accepted 9 years ago, but with today's standards it probably wouldn't be accepted (since it's a blanket release for a whole website).--Filip (§) 21:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Ticket:2021020910004221 for Category:ViralZone[edit]

Can someone add the permission ticket:2021020910004221 to all the images for Category:ViralZone and the other ViralZone images. Also is it fine to do this myself when adding these images in the future? --Guest2625 (talk) 12:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Only an OTRS agent can add the template. However, I've seen templates specifically created in other cases involving categories, but I'm afraid I don't know how that works. --Ganímedes (talk) 11:19, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

File:Bryan Johnson kernel flow.jpg[edit]

Greetings. I wonder if someone who can read the OTRS ticket could give this photo an author. Usually a photo has a photographer other than the subject. Thanks. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bryan Johnson kernel flow.jpg. Thanks. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:30, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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File:500 pairs of Air Jordan Retros in the ShoeZeum.jpg & File:Sea of Jordans.jpg[edit]

Hello. I have been assisting Jordan Geller (who is the subject of both photos) in getting permission from the photographer/copyright holder. Is there any indication that the copyright holder sent a permission email? On another note, the photographer/copyright holder gave Jordan Geller a personal CD that contains the uploaded photos. However, for the source of both files, I inserted a URL that contains basically an identical copy of the photos that Jordan Geller uploaded. I did this because the URL clearly indicates the identity of the copyright holder. Should I insert something else for the source for the files? Thank you. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 02:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Appeal an OTRS decision[edit]

I'd like to appeal an OTRS decision. I'm writing an article about a film and television actress. I got in touch with her, and asked if she is able to release some images. She mailed in some professional head shots, which is what actors use to apply for jobs, using the Commons:OTRS#Declaration of consent for all enquiries. They're 30 years old; she remembers where and when they were taken; having headshots is a standard practice for actors, and the contract gives the rights to the subjects for the obvious reason that otherwise they couldn't print up large batches and send them out to apply for jobs, which is what they are for. The OTRS volunteer wrote that she needed to produce the contracts with the photography studios, or we can't accept that she owns the rights to them. I submit that's just not a reasonable request - no reasonable human being keeps contracts for something that they got 30 years ago that isn't on the level of a house or something. The declaration of consent does not say "you need to send in the contract". At some point we have to take the subject's word for it. --GRuban (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

GRuban: While the subject may well have usage rights, most photographers do not assign their copyright to the subjects. They retain their copyright, unless it was Work-for-hire which is many countries must be done by a contract. We know that in most countries the author's copyright lasts for 70 years pma, so it is reasonable to ask for verification that the subject was assigned the copyright of the head shots by the original copyright holder. How would you expect us to verify the copyright status without some form of document? Ww2censor (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
The verification is the subject's word, in writing, expicitly stating that she owns the rights. If the subject had put up the image on their webpage, with a notice saying it was released, we would believe that. We do it all the time. --GRuban (talk) 18:20, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Sadly, it's not enough. I lost the accunt of the times the subject affirm to be the copyright holder, and then the contract says that the photographer keeps alls the rights and just give the customer "permission to use". Yu may surprise how many times people don't read the contracts they've signed. --Ganímedes (talk) 22:21, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
But how is that different from stating it on their web page, which we do accept? --GRuban (talk) 00:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Please provide a link to the ticket. --Krd 16:26, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
@Krd: I am pretty sure that it is Ticket:2021060910011484. Cheers, --Mussklprozz (talk) 09:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Then the relevant questions have already been answered in the ticket. The ticket does not contain permission for these files. --Krd 09:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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