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File:AERIAL VIEW OF SPARROWS POINT ON A HAZY DAY - NARA - 546826.jpg

This photo has an incorrect description. Rather a low perspective for an aerial photo. Not sure where to report this anymore. Rmhermen (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Commons:National Archives and Records Administration/Error reporting is probably the best place but I don't know if that one is really being looked at. I think that one is reported; it appears the image was switched with the one for "BETHLEHEM STEEL WORKERS LIFT THE HEAVY SUPPORTS KNOCKED OUT FROM UNDER THE NEW TANKER, "CHEVRON HAWAII.", 04/1973" (ARC ID #546862). Somebody transposed the last two numbers when associating the images it looks like. Carl Lindberg (talk) 05:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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And also:

Yours sincerely, Teofilo (talk) 00:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Teofilo (talk) 01:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

tiffs and jpgs

fyi, i kinda invoked your name here: Aerial view of Waikiki Beach and Honolulu, Hawaii, Highsmith. if you have thoughts, rationale, policy, it might be worth an essay, reinforcement of COM:TIFF. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 03:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

white house wednesdays

hi, i saw an empty category, and filled it. US National Archives series: Photographs Relating to the Administration, Family, and Personal Life of Harry S. Truman, compiled 1957 - 2004, documenting the period 1849 - 2004. if you could check the nara template usage that would be great. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 02:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


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Portrait of Betty Bloomer from a Grand Rapids Herald Newspaper Clipping

hi, i imagine that a newspaper retains rights, but some research might find no renewal. [1]. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 02:48, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

DPLA

Are you going to be involved in uploading NARA's DPLA collection to commons?Smallman12q (talk) 20:16, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not clear what you mean; maybe I am misunderstanding. NARA is contributing its metadata to DPLA, so I don't know what "NARA's DPLA collection" is. Media from NARA could and should be uploaded regardless of whether it's also going in DPLA. It's true that eventually NARA's digital holdings should all be on Wikimedia Commons (in my opinion), like it is going to be on DPLA, but I'm not part of any such project. Dominic (talk) 21:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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Bot makes very long names!

Perhaps the NatArchives Bot could check for too-long names on the resulting files? I draw your attention to this example, which I still haven't succeeded in posting into the en.wiki properly! Perhaps this is just confusion over the fields in the original file? It appears the file name is the file description. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

This is how the catalogers at the National Archives chose to title the work. You can compare it with the linked catalog record. It is true that it is fairly long, but the titles do get truncated at a certain point. That is why there is an ellipsis not present in the original. If you want to use it in an article, the easiest way is to copy and past the full file name. Dominic (talk) 18:29, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

NARA

I am confused about one of your tags and others may be as well. See: Commons:Village_pump#Don.27t_fix_it for details. The two files I fixed are listed there. I don't know if you want to correct your descriptions or not. I just changed 'boundry' to 'boundary' in two files is all. I discovered them when I searched with the same wrong spelling. This may effect searches in your files as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:11, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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George Ho (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:The captured French General Giraud, during his daily walk. Germany, circa 1940-1941. - NARA - 532610.tif

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JuTa 21:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

I added a PD-because, took off the template, and raised the issue at VP:Copyright. Dankarl (talk) 00:57, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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JuTa 07:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Tiff handling

Hi Dominic. First off I should mention that I'm no longer officially part of the Multimedia team (My contract ended at the end of August - I'm back in school now), but just a volunteer developer. Anyways, in regards to tiff:

  • For the size of preview bar - I think it might make sense to have one size that is fairly high resolution (Perhaps at least 5000px wide). However, for really big files, I'm not sure how good it is to convert it at the full resolution. For example: File:Lubinus_Duchy_of_Pomerania_Map_1618_monocromatic.tif (third highest resolution tiff on commons), is 377 Megapixels. Converting to a 377 MP jpeg file seems kind of excessive.
  • I agree that clicking the image on the description to get the original image, seems like not the best design. As far as I know, the reason we do it this way, is that its always been done this way. In addition to the issue you describe, there's also the issue with rotated jpegs where the original doesn't have the rotation, which is really confusing. On top of that, one should not be able to accidentally download a 100 mb file without meaning to.
  • Sharpening - There's no deep technical issue - Its fairly easy to either enable and disable. The issue is some types of images look good with sharpening (typically photographs, but also scans of things) where others from what I understand don't (Diagram type things). I'm not really an expert on visual perception and image scaling - So I don't entirely understand the exact criteria of when an image looks good with sharpening and when it doesn't, but I think it would make sense to turn it on for tiffs. Perhaps at the same time as when changing the scalar to VIPS

Bawolff (talk) 18:39, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm revealing my ignorance here, but converting a 377 MP TIFF is excessive how? Because of server performance or output file size or...? I think that example you're using might not be the most useful one, in any case. That image is already so large that it's over the megapixel limit and can't render any previews of any size. Are images under the limit of 50 MP to excessive to convert to JPG at full resolution? I think it's better to have the full resolution option but limit it where needed than have a high-but-not-full resolution option for all images just because certain of extreme cases. Dominic (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Actually, we're hoping to remove the 50 MP limit, sometime in the near future (Hopefully soon). Perhaps I'm being paranoid about making 377 MP thumbnails - We do have lots of sandboxing setup around the thumbnailers, so if they use too much server resources, things get shutdown fast. On top of that, thumbnails are cached extremely aggressively. The actual uses for a thumbnail that big is actually kind of low. When you get images that big, they tend not to be easily viewable and cause programs to crash, thus they're really mostly useful to specialists, who already would be better served by the tiff version. Bawolff (talk) 15:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
As a first step, I submitted a patch to make it so that tiff files aren't linked to their original version on image description pages - gerrit:86383. Bawolff (talk) 17:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
On second thought, I don't think there's anything wrong with linking to a full resolution converted version of the file. I submitted a change to do that at gerrit:86387. The other part, about changing what happens on a click, is possibly a little controversial, so I'm going to start a VP thread about it. (Or talk about it on the existing thread) which has kind of merged with tiff issues. Bawolff (talk) 19:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

NARA images

Hi Dominic - When you are uploading the next batch of NARA scans, could you include where possible some physical description of the original? the images are apparently scaled to give a uniform pixel count in one direction, so there is no information there about the size of the original. Size is sometimes a useful indication for dating images and identifying sets. Also whether printed on photo paper, card stock, or other media. Thanks, Dankarl (talk) 19:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I have to look into this. I thought we did this already for the dimensions, but there just aren't a lot of records that have this kind of information included. I'm surprised if that is true about medium, though, since I think that is common. I'll let you know what I find out. Dominic (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Please take through normal deletion

As per the comment on each request [2] please take this request through a normal deletion process as it doesn't fit the criteria for speedy deletion as a duplicate.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't looking at the history when I was tagging, and didn't realize I'd done that one repeatedly. It looks like the NARA bot didn't upload the file at full resolution for some reason. I'll have to fix it manually. Dominic (talk) 17:52, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

File type mismatch

Files that are of different types should be labelled with {{other version}} or {{Superseded}} rather than labelled as {{duplicate}} as they don't fit the criteria for speedy deletion. If you believe that the images should be deleted then please take them through a normal deletion process. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

There's no need to act like we haven't been through this discussion before. Here is a list of admins who have performed duplicate deletions of GIF->JPG files in just the last few weeks just that I've tagged myself: M0tty, Dschwen, Steinsplitter, Hedwig in Washington, Pleclown, Barcex. I think you know that that's most people who patrol duplicates. Here is the list of admins which have ever removed my tags because they don't agree with that practice: Billinghurst.

You continue to act this way against common practice and in the absence of any clear policy supporting your actions, even though you keep saying there is some rule. It's clear that you have a strong opinion on this matter, but please stop using your admin bit to enforce your preferences. It's quite annoying when I've been doing a large number of these duplicate taggings on a nearly daily basis without any issue, except to know that at any time you might come along and revert all my tags just because you want to. Instead of coming along and just reverting all my edits like and warning me like I've done something wrong, if you would like to have the policy changed to say that "duplicate" may only refer to files of an identical format, please go through the proper channels and start a community discussion to that effect. Dominic (talk) 19:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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